Dolby ATMOS Ceiling Speaker Placement 9.2.6, 9.2.4, 9.2.2 Made EASY!!

[@swarm8772]

finally, a practical application for high school geometry

[@jackvos8047]

Really wasn't expecting a maths lesson when I clicked on this, but it turns out that is exactly what I needed. I only came to do research for an animation so I can have a convincing speaker placement. 100% recommend this Video for anyone else doing the same thing.

[@tatts4life838]

What sucks is when you do all the careful measurements and then a stupid joist or duct work are in the way so you have to adjust it by almost a foot.

[@Z22-m5o]

I had good results moving my atmos speakers in about two feet. Make sure to get good atmos speakers it really helps !

[@Emperor36]

Very good measurement tool HTD I'm gonna use this and add the distance to the mix to add the calculation to the receiver and hear if it makes sense. Thank again my friend.

[@Test-Pilot1194]

I just laid all 8 of mine at equal distances across the entire ceiling, mounting the rear and front ceiling speakers 2ft ahead of the rear surrounds, and front L/R. Keeping them inline. And the middle 3 speakers directly above the MLP, and the front height centre directly above the centre speaker, which happens to be directly inline with the V.O.G channel. Because it’s all symmetrical if you will. I would say however, as many know anyway, I wouldn’t try to follow Dolby’s guidelines to the letter, not only does it not suite most people living space, you can’t forget your not just doing it for Dolby. Your trying to cater for dts and Auro aswell. 👍🏻

[@texxhexxmm]

Great! I wil opt for 55° as Hometheater Gurus recommends .The distance between the atmos Speakers (i go 5.2.4) should be also 55°? Distance forward is distancex2 bewteen atmos Pairs?

[@TheSwartz]

Creates a 9.2.6 theater room with a 100" projector screen. Uses it to display power point projections.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

its 144" screen. Check your facts G

[@xjmzrq]

Thanks for breaking this down. It helped to remove any doubt I had on my planned atmos setup. Now, I just need to figure out how to wire this damn thing...

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

yeah. we get in our own heads and make things larger or more difficult than what they really are. Its cool to have some help to get you through it all. Im dealing with that right now. I have 30 videos to shoot and im procrastinating

[@bobflipse5309]

I don't understand the down votes. Great info with helpful diagrams and very easy to understand. Just researching things now to possibly upgrade. I am 70, have always had good sound and might as well spend $ instead of leaving it to my kids, lol. Thanks Home Theater Dude!

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

Thanks Bobbo :)

[@Jdeneik]

Tried the Tital Atmos music...pretty amazing immersive audio!

[@petecap4382]

Advice I have Lexicon RV-6 I'm running B&W 803 mains & HTM3 center I keep bouncin around with setting small or large at 80Htz

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

i would large the 803s

[@theroachmotel]

The thing that sucks most is after you do all this you pretty much never want to move the couch again lol

[@Spacemanwho1]

Appreciate you taking the time out to do this video. Had my notepad out taking notes and writhing this stuff down. Only if school had used HT examples 😁🤦‍♂️😂

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

hahaha. makes sense.

[@AysahSpades]

I'll never understand the imperial system lmao (15/16ths!?). Informative video!

[@HPijl666]

@@Limpit_ca Almost every country uses metric, 3 uses imperial, and they say metric is nonsence :P Right... :P

[@Survived4Real]

Just want to say thanks for information. I’m 58 and 80% paralyzed from the chest down. I had a 3 - 60” Pioneer Elite Plasma and Denon Speaker set up exactly 1 year ago. I have a electric stair chair so I live and sleep upstairs. At 10:00 am the alarms went off followed by my sister yelling to get out the whole house in flames. Smoke and flames broke through my floor and crawled to the door but breath at all. I dove down the stairs head first , landed at bottom unconsciously.The house was coming down when a firefighting team did a “ Last life sweep”. They found me, but they couldn’t see either and low oxygen alarms where going off everywhere. They did CPR on me and started my heart and breathing but it stopped again in ambulance so they stopped all traffic and did an Er procedure on the road and Kickstarted me again. I was in ACOMA for 3 weeks and 3 months at UNC CHAPEL HILL BURN CENTER. Our new house should be finished being rebuilt in February 2020 and my upstairs has a man cave 24’ X 14’ all for me remake a media room. Thanks again. William Sturman

[@rosstee]

Wow, glad to hear you got through that terrible ordeal. Hope you get your dream room set up!

[@shalavjaiswal]

Wow what a terrifying ordeal I hope you get to build your dream media room

[@jimmymcgill5572]

Hang in there B.I.G. Will!

[@AllAccessConstruction]

Shot from the hip.. 💯💯💯

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

hahah love it :)

[@hi-fihaven2257]

Awesome tutorial man! Great information, and easy to follow. This video is like a Christmas present for me, and very timely. I have a 5.2.2 using front height speakers, and am going to change it to 5.2.2 with overheads. Staying with 5.2.2 because I have a smaller home theater room. I want to go with overheads so it will be more of an authentic cinema experience. Thanks much for the video, I WILL be using it for the overhead placement in my room.

[@user-hx7ld5te8e]

Great video and math lesson. Question though, I have ceiling speakers that have an angled baffle of 15 degrees (RSL C34E MKII). Can you recommend any additional math I'll need to calculate the ceiling install? Thanks!

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

use the same logic. the kant of the speakers, (the angle of the dangle) should be fine to keep everything in place

[@myhometheater7029]

That is insane!!!! Definitely an enveloping sound!!!!!!! Awesome video

[@gregwillis4001]

How can you stay on topic and go off on a tangent at the same time? Awesome video! You made the installation of my overhead speakers so much easier!

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

oh yeah? right on. glad i could help

[@poserwannabe1]

Very cool but this is my life as an installer... water pipes drain lines gas lines duct work duct work joist.... duct work I give up...

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

Yeah my room is less than ideal. I have 3 exterior walls and a a room above this one. It aint always easy

[@poserwannabe1]

@@ThatHomeTheaterDude I'm sorry, I forgot to say GREAT VIDEO !!!! 👍👍

[@patjohn775]

I can give you my secret. Spend 200.00 in infared camera and you can see the stud directions and ducts before you cut

[@caesarc.4079]

Awesome 👏 and very informative video.

[@harta_1509]

Great video buddy. What about if my room size. 13 ft wide , 23 ft long and 12 ft high. You go for 9.2.4 or 7.2.6? Thanks buddy

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

good question. Id go with a 7.2.6 if you have more than 1 row of seating or 9.2.4 if you have 1

[@ctweedter]

Hey I just watched Godzilla King of the monsters in 4k. Amazing movie. Great atmos and bass in it. Highly recommend using it as a video for a future product.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

yeah shane (spare change) just told me about that

[@LifeSized101]

I am placing the speakers before I even have a new av receiver . Are my front height in ceiling speakers redundant now days? Use as Atmos ?

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

im not sure what you are asking

[@jiriza84641]

WT, you need Math for Marines for this!! hahah Love it! Great tutorial!!

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

This marine took calculus I II & III plus linear equations. This is highschool geometry.

[@jiriza84641]

@@ThatHomeTheaterDude you lost me at calculus! aint the same a rifle dope!! hahaha

[@BDDave]

6:30 Left and right rear speakers are from center the same distance apart as the front speakers and over head spearkers. Did not know this thanks!

[@thefunplace4269]

Rather than go through all that measuring crap, I just wing it. lol

[@bkilpatr100]

If you are only running two in-ceiling Atmos speakers, what would be the best position? 35-55 degrees in front of the listening position. Or directly overhead?

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

www.dolby.com/about/support/guide/speaker-setup-guides/5.1.2-overhead-speaker-setup-guide/#gref

[@beardedgaming1337]

i would like to use an RTA and measurment mic to tune everything in, do you do that?

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

you can do it both ways. the key is to get all the same measurement

[@voodoo9077]

Will room correction fix this issue if I mount them evenly?

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

ehhh. i would manually check distances and levels to make sure

[@BrendonHeld]

Yes, but most room correction systems aren't 100% perfect, so be careful of relying exclusively on it. Always check the settings afterwards and tweak as needed. But the good news is that both Dolby Atmos and DTS-X are quite forgiving and flexible. So just try and get it as close to the Dolby recommendations as is practical for your room, and then go from there. Very few people have a perfect room, unless they build it specifically for Dolby Atmos from the get go...

[@joelane4670]

What if I’m doing a 5.1.2 with just 2 height speakers.where you place them? Thanks for all your Informative videos. I really enjoyed them!I I’m going to just svs Prime elevation as my height speakers. So I can’t really use them on a 45 Angil. Thanks again

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

still use the 45 degree method. id put them in front

[@joelane4670]

That Home Theater Dude..The only issue with placing them in front.There would be a fairy large Gap between the front mains and the surrounds. Like 10’ or so..Is the cool? Thanks for your fast response..joe l

[@luisrex1109]

Dude how can you connect all of that equipment and not having your circuit breakers clipping? Mine starting clipping as soon as I got the outlaw 5000

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

i dont know. i am installing a dedicated 20 amp circuit though

[@poserwannabe1]

I'm assuming you meant to say "tripping" right ?

[@midwestiowashooter]

Don’t know for sure but I always understood it to be the transformer and capacitors in the Amp. If they can’t keep up they can pull more from the wall tripping breakers. Another thing to look at is how you have your speakers wired. Are you doing any non standard connections that can increase the load on the Amp?

[@luisrex1109]

Nope all are regular connections my mistake I think it was to have everything connected to a single power surge from a single wall outlet. I connected just the amp to a separate wall outlet and that seems to be working for now. No tripping when high volume movies.

[@bradthurkle7217]

What I’m going to do is make a gizmo to put one of my ceiling/ doubly speakers on so it’s the same height level as the ceiling, connected it up to the amp or what ever then just move it around to find that sweet spot from where you would put your couch. Kind of get a rough idea then. Only get one chance.

[@DBowesMusic]

Should the atmos be angled toward the MLP? Or flat? I don't know of any speakers that have the dispersion pattern that dolby recommends. I am pretty sure mine don't.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

they dont have to be angled. follow the template from dolby website and you will be finw

[@barneyjones5174]

Looks like a decent sized room, have you considered moving the subs out into the room (quarter length on the sidewalls) or upgrading to a larger center speaker?

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

yeah. i know what audioholics says is ideal. but to be honest. they sound good and these are heavy. We are moving soon and the next setup should be done proper

[@barneyjones5174]

@@ThatHomeTheaterDude Looking forward to the new build and what changes you make starting with an empty room.

[@Spacemanwho1]

Good video. How much distance do you guys think is needed for the back speakers to be effective?

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

use the same formula

[@ArnoldNathan]

Will this work for the Nakamichi 9.2.4?

[@Lafiro]

I was about to ask about just this yesterday and out of no where came this video answering most of my questions! You are awesome! My only question then is, can my in ceiling speakers be placed against the wall, both front and back? I have an I-beam that comes down and a vent after that so I can’t put my speakers that far ahead. I think the angles still work since my ceilings are short but I would literally have to install them against the back wall and against the I-beam to still follow as much as possible the Dolby diagram... Think this is OK? Edit: second question. My staircase on the right side will make it impossible to buy in wall speakers it appears. But I can do so for the rear... think that if I mix the speakers up in this fashion I will regret it? Else I would have to install the right surround about a foot up from the floor at most and I doubt that’s a good thing to do....

[@tkcdac]

Speakers in a smaller room are a best spot available, You don't want the speakers aimed over your head, but as much of an angle as you can to your face. If this doesn't work, small foam v-wedges are available for this purpose and also isolate the speaker as well. On my smaller speakers, I had a ball mount drilled into the wall to allow me to get a strange funky angle that would be impossible otherwise. Rule of thumb, if you cant see the ear from the speaker, its not going to provide the direction-ality you want. My theater is criticized for not having my rear speakers more level, but up top. These people fail to understand that my kids sit in front of the back chair on the floor. No eyesight to drive.. no effect. As a result of best case scenario, all people in room get the surround effect. Also: when in doubt, play with it, and whatever you like best is the best.

[@Lafiro]

tkcdac My surround aides could be in wall but installed no more than a foot from the floor. I don’t see anything positive coming from me doing this but at the same time, it’s the staircase causing this issue and I can’t do anything about it. One thing tells me just put regular speakers, the other is my wife telling me in wall or nothing...... ugh

[@tkcdac]

@@Lafiro There are some great in-wall that have a very severe tweeter directional movement. I have not seen any that go over 45 degrees though. I hope you find your compromise. It sounds like giving too much in the speaker department, would defeat your entire purpose. Good luck on that uphill battle. Perhaps when its time to get that wife vehicle, you have a bargaining chip? :)

[@Lafiro]

tkcdac that’s coming up quick for the wife though. Purchasing the speakers and rest of the system I plan by end of next year. It’s just that this month/beginning of next marks the last of any possible wire runs for speaker placements so as of now everything is being run for a 9.3.6 system. May just do 9.4.6 just to be safe for more subwoofer placement options. It’s just that one speaker that boggles me that if I do in wall, it will be a foot off the ground. Below all listeners ears. Then the same thing has to happen for the left speaker to keep continuity. I just don’t know how bad that would be, if at all....... I wouldn’t want to only have two speakers external and then everything else in wall (except for the front stage).... I don’t think it will look right or sound right maybe...... this is where I ask here for options.

[@tkcdac]

@@Lafiro Reflective speaker? Bounce it? Project toward the back wall and allow the reflections to serve as the directional placement! Just as they do the atmos speaker toppers from Def Tech, may be a possibility.

[@leesunlung]

If you want to do .2 or .4 which will be the placement of those speakers?

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

follow the same principle

[@MichaelGreco]

Hey man! Have you done a video doing a full tour of the 9. 2.6 set up?

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

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[@MichaelGreco]

@@ThatHomeTheaterDude thank you!

[@cheneddie7040]

Thanks for these great info, Dude. I'm in Asia. Please advise that if I do the 7.2.4, assumed the overhead speakers are 45-55 degrees, should I toe in these 4 speakers or just let them face the ground? This real confuses me, thanks first.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

45 degrees is optimal you can do 35-55 toe in is a good idea if they are directional

[@cheneddie7040]

@@ThatHomeTheaterDude Thanks, Dude. I've finished the atmos speakers setup as you suggested.

[@Whit_Siever]

The newest BMW 3 series has 2 speakers, one mounted underneath each front seat, grilles flush with the carpet. Does Atmos allow for embedded or loose floor speakers?

[@sibaroochi]

Im planning a 5.1.4 room. If I want to place my 4 ceiling speakers at 45 degrees from my ears is it as simple as measuring vertical distance from ear to ceiling and matching the horizontal point to that measurement?

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

yep. you got it

[@19GREAT15AWAKENING06]

Much appreciated! I like to know what the standard is, so if I need to deviate I'm aware of the wiggle room before I'm technically out of the optimum zones.

[@photomusicman9413]

I have a 7.1.6 system. My Atmos speakers are Dali Altecos speakers positioned at the top of the side walls facing the listening area. The Front and Rears are positioned at 45 degrees in front of and behind the main listening area. The Middle Atmos speakers are at 90 degrees (each side of our listening area). All six of the Atmos speakers are positioned quite close together because I followed the Dolby guidelines. I could easily move the Front Atmos speakers several further away. This would make the front and rears at different distances and different angles to the listening position but I would adjust the distances and levels in the AVR. Would it be OK to move the Fronts further away to give a wider and "longer" Atmos soundstage, or is there no point? Thank you for your help.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

think concentric circles around you horizontally and then a hemisphere from you to the atmos in your room. that visual should make all of this super easy. or just put them where you want. its not super complex and wont ruin the system if youre off a few inches

[@fierychilipeppers494]

What mount did you use to place the Klipsch elevation speakers on the ceiling?

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

i dont have klipsch speakers. I use svs prime elevations. there is a magnetic mount for ceiling operations

[@MichaelGreco]

This video is well-timed I was just researching this! To questions if you'd be so kind. Depending on what degree angle you are shooting for you physically angle the speaker toward the listening position? My sofa is unfortunately against the back wall so should I essentially mount my rear Atmos as side Atmos and program them that way? I have a Denon 3400 h

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

Most atmos speakers can be angled either with their woofer/ tweeter or both. if you have a fixed (not pointable) speaker then having them directly overhead or even up high on the wall will work. i would say max bring them down 1ft if you want. That way you get separation between rear surrounds

[@belhaddadamine8957]

Hi Can you use any type of ceiling speakers to broadcast Dolby Atmos

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

yes

[@chrisg2550]

Question for you. Dual SVS Pb-1000s or dual Sb-2000s. Will be mainly home theater focused with occasional music listening. Running a Marantz 6012 receiver, Elac Uni-Fi Speakers, SVS prime Elevation speakers and an old Boston Acoustics sub currently in a 7.1.2 configuration. Room is about 2500 cubic feet. Any input would be helpful.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

for the money. i would look into single sb-3000. they output is insane

[@chrisg2550]

@@ThatHomeTheaterDude Thanks for the input. I am interested in dual subs to smooth out the bass. Sadly the SB 3000 in dual format are a little out of my price range.

[@tkcdac]

@@chrisg2550 Dual 2000's, and use the upgrade program to get to a 2000 / 3000 or 2 X 3000 over the next year!! The SVS guys have a trade in policy that is quite nice.

[@chrisg2550]

@@tkcdac I went with the dual SB-2000s. I think they will fit perfectly into my system and give me the musicality I want but still provide the home theater umph that I'm looking for. I appreciate your feed back!

[@tkcdac]

@@chrisg2550 You will not be disappointed!

[@HamptonConway]

ok professor!! well done! I'm bout to go do this formula and see if me wire runs actually pan out. 😳 Also, I believe you have 4 bookshelf speakers for your wides and rears and a pair of bipoles for your side surrounds. I'm curious about your decision making process for that configuration 👀. But hey, great video Professor 🤣

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

I dont buy into the "you cant use bipoles with Atmos" garbage. Some one some where said it and everyone and their momma believe it

[@BrendonHeld]

​@@ThatHomeTheaterDude Agreed, I'm also still using bipoles for my side surrounds and I feel they make sense still for Dolby Atmos. I'd say this point comes down to personal preference and Dolby would do well to add some flexibility into this specification so as not to confuse people into buying (or replacing) something they might not need.

[@HamptonConway]

@@ThatHomeTheaterDude I've seen it said sooooo many places, but this is the setup I was considering....especially since ultimately I may end up with 3 rows of seating

[@toddroy9558]

I’m put two rows of seats, so how do I position the speakers for the listening for everyone in the two rows? Everybody shows the examples with one row.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

pick your fav row or split the difference

[@retroforce6919]

Good tip 👍

[@bommareddybrijendrareddy9301]

I have a doubt. In our small 5.1.2 home theater having dimensions of 16x12x9 feet, we placed two rows of seats, the second row is right up the back end of the absorber wall with a feet gap from the wall and this is on a riser of 1 feet. The first row is 5 feet from the same back wall just after the riser ends. We had our two Atmos speakers placed 6 feet from the back wall. Is this right? By this math, I calculate close to 40° Angle. Please advise 🙏🏻

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

you have to choose which is your preferred listening area. if not, plsit the diiference and make atmos in close relation to the two rows.

[@pchanj]

Hi, wondering whether you could give me an advice. Planning to install some ceiling speakers. My room is 10 feet width by 13 1/2 feet length (wall to wall measurement). Using a 100 inch projector requires an optimal distance of almost 10 feet which requires me to position the couch close to the end. Currently, running 5.1 setup and planning to install some ceiling speaker. Would you suggest I install 4 ceiling speaker or 2 speaker. If I go for the 4 speaker setup, I would be force to install the 2 set ceiling speaker almost directly on top of the couch (90 degrees) and the other two sets around 35 degrees in front as I do not have enough space behind the couch as its too close to the back already. Hope to hear some advice from you. Many thanks..

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

go 4 overheads :)

[@beardedgaming1337]

i was looking at a 7.2.4 system, entry level morantz needs a separate 2 channel amp for the extra two ceiling speakers. is there anything inherently wrong with doing it this way? like is it wasting money over a 7.1 system?

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

nope. that will work fine :)

[@beardedgaming1337]

@@ThatHomeTheaterDude I have the whole system setup now, it needs to be louder though. With a Marantz 6012 that advertises around 100 watts per channel do you think I would see any benefit in buying a emotive 120 watt per Channel 7 Channel dedicated Am? The Next Step Up is 250 watts per Channel and three times the price

[@patjohn775]

What do you do if your couch is close to the back wall?

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

make do. These are recommendations not laws

[@Jacob-pr5cd]

What if you can do all in wall speakers in a 7.1.2 system except for the rear? The rear has to be ceiling mounted but that ceiling is 1.5ft lower than the atmos speakers (because of box ceiling). Is that still doable with adjustable tweeters or would it make the entire system flawed? I know the rear should be ear level but not really a choice

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

i think having the tweeter and driver aimable will help out the most in that situation. Klipsch has the pro series that you can aim both the tweeter and driver. Contact Dreamedia home theaters to get some of those

[@snsrcraceway]

I fully understand the angles and everything with placing the speakers for Atmos, but is there any correlation to how the rear ceiling speakers in a setup should be compared to the rear surrounds? Like in a small room where the rear surrounds are closer to the couch and the rear ceiling speakers end up being right above them does that matter? Or should they not be directly over top of the rear surrounds?

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

no you can have them spaced. in my room i have them right over the rear surrounds though

[@snsrcraceway]

@@ThatHomeTheaterDude and it works out well? Mine won't be right over top but not far in front either. And would you suggest I go with definitive technology do 4.5" or dt8"? I have bp9060 for lefts and rights, cs8040 center, and sm55's for rear surrounds.

[@jessontvarghese327]

How did you calculate the value of Tan 40, I am getting different figure, please help me out..

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

www.bing.com/search?FORM=SLBRDF&pc=SL20&q=tangent%20of%2040

[@mikehermesmeglio]

You have to make sure your calculator is set to degrees and not radians.

[@marcobautista5924]

Thanks much needed

[@georgep2301]

How about the distance of x.x.2 setup how to do it with two atmos?

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

the exact same

[@battousai412]

Great video . I couldn't help but think of that Seth Rogen movie Neighbors 2 where Zac Efrons character is a math wiz when talking to the couple about selling weed but doesn't understand why or how he could apply that to other things:)

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

hahahah. i love that movie.

[@zackpetrovic3029]

Ah trigonometry classes coming into use after 20 years Only issue with Dolby recommendations is that it is only for one row of seats

[@ccheg.v.6407]

Yes let the Av receiver do what it does best room correction! AURO 3D is better THE END

[@Samzep]

What about 5.1.4 ? Not everyone can do that many soeakers in this formation the 4 go 2 in front and 2 behind near celing ?

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

dude, its the same thing. follow the guidlines for your format and use the lessons from this video. easy peasy lemon squeezy

[@Zopke]

👌

[@ctweedter]

My room is so small I can wing it. Not a lot of adjustments available. But still nice information. Now I just need a better AVR. Not enough ummppff for me.

[@tkcdac]

external amps can give you that umph. The amps wont have to be upgraded afterwards like the pre-processor receiver either.

[@scharax]

...is even more complicated when dolby has changed the placement of overhead speakers 7.1.4 to a bigger distance between them...

[@greg6500]

Just found out I am too stupid to install my speakers.

[@LarHines]

Need this for 2 rows of seating . Second row is 14" higher. Help.....

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

i would normalize by splitting the difference between the two add 7 inches to the height and subtract 7 inches for the back row. easy.. Usually in ceilings are directional and can be angled to help out even more.

[@matsudakodo]

Good info, but I just used a laser measure.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

easy peasy lemon squeezy

[@Chub4Chevy]

Is it possible to do surrounds and Atmos in the ceiling? I don’t want floor surrounds because it’s a great room that backs to the kitchen (Open concept)

[@johnbooker7153]

I'm just a guy that wants his little 5.2.4 to look and sound decent. Lol. No one that comes to my house has that well trained of an ear. So, shooting from the hip is the way to go. Lol 😆 🤣 😂

[@JamesArthurHurley]

One word. Trinnov.

[@jameszos8426]

"So basically, your entire room height, you're going to subtract that from your distance from your ear to the ground." Huh? These "instructions" left me more confused than I was before I watched the video.

[@KongZillaification]

Use the metric system

[@gm-be6gm]

HOLY CRAP!!!!!! he said 15.1 "i jizzed in my pants"..."I jizzed in my paaaaaaants"

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

lonely island huh?

[@jjdente7666]

I also sit 5 feet down so thanks for easy math my man

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

yeah buddy!

[@thereefaholic]

I am very confused as to what the math is for. With your angle meter and a laser pointer what is the point of the math. You use the angle meter to angle your laser pointer put the laser pointer at the area of the ceiling and then take measurements from that point to the edge of the room to make sure that each speaker is equidistant from the sides and symmetrical within the room.I’m not trying to be a troll, I am just wondering what the math is actually four. I somehow missed that

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

If you watched he full video, i explained both methods. The math is only for people that absolutely need to stick to rules

[@grantsdonair1]

as a 64 yo man and first time setting up a atmos i have no clue what kind of math that is . :( so on to the next video to find info

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

its a form of surround sound that incorporates sound from overhead to make it sound more realistic. You track objects around the room. its cool

[@grantsdonair1]

@@ThatHomeTheaterDude thank you I know that it is the easy math you are doing is confusing .

[@simonl2072]

All this correct theory....in my house they go where they fit lol

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

thats what most of us do.

[@ross5506]

It would be nice if someone can make a Atmos ceiling speaker that can be mounted on the ceiling and Bluetooth. No wires and no cutting your ceiling.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

million dollar idea

[@indikawickramasinghe823]

Good idea, but how do you power the them ?? 😀

[@goat9199]

Libary? Nerd card revoked.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

who hurt you bro?

[@goat9199]

@@ThatHomeTheaterDude wow, that is a looooong delayed reply. I'm running 13.2 now, so my nerd card is still in full force. 🏅

[@bobbyDig]

I am not a fan of placing atmos speakers in the ceiling. It limits the Atmos effect. I prefer front and back to get the full Atmos effect. If you ever seen the Dolby Atmos Render Model that engineers use, there is no Ceiling mounted speakers, just the entire room. Let your speaker breath, instead of limiting them to a confined space.

[@dan_hitchman007]

You actually want your Top Middle overhead speakers in front of your MLP about a foot. Don't have them directly above your head. Your hearing is very poor at picking out sound locations directly above or directly behind your head. Pro sound designers also recommend that the distance between the left and right overheads should be no more than 4-5 feet apart, not in line with your main left and right speakers. That's how pro sound mixing rooms are normally set up and that's where these soundtracks are created.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

I disagree. Hearing above and behind are fine. We were designed to hear animals and dangers from above and behind us just fine. Cant argue with caveman design of our ears

[@dan_hitchman007]

@@ThatHomeTheaterDude I'm just going off of what the pro audio engineers discuss about psychoacoustic properties of the human hearing system and how it gets confused with direct overhead (right above your head) or direct rear sound (right behind your head). You want to compensate for this "defect" in our sound perception in an audio installation.

[@MyIronman8]

19 speaker holy shit

[@maxdondada]

I’m so fucking lost. Are we still taking speakers or are we getting into quantum physics? Good information but please dumb it down for us simpletons

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

put them where you think they should go :)

[@Renrondog]

unless you have bookshelf style speakers this won't work well for Atmos. Here's why. At 50* with in ceiling speakers you are now sitting 50* off axis of the speaker (which is most likely pointing straight down) You will hear almost none of the treble at that angle because of how tweeters and high frequencies disperse sound. And they are waaaaay too far off to the side (again off axis). Better layout would be similar to an actual theater design where the Atmos overhead speakers are closer to the center of the room. Look up the design specs for yourself before you cut your ceiling holes.

[@VoyagerGC]

that is not VoG :) Atmos does not have a 3rd layer - only Auro3D deals in absolute! :P so... don't mess with people's minds. that position 9 is basically a pair of atmos top heights :) not a single center speaker like in Auro3D VoG

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

.......... i think you are mistaken the idea of the drawing. In any case neither of the speakers will be direct overhead. They will be out to either side of your head. The middle speaker represents the middle heights. You can do vog if you put on right above your head.

[@VoyagerGC]

@@ThatHomeTheaterDude no, I am not mistaken. "problem" is you were talking about atmos and threw vog in discussion and that created confusion :) its ok, I understood what you were trying to separate, but best practice is to not mix 2 concepts but focus on each other separately, since there is quite a dif between one codec and the other. 10x for the reply.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

you can set a room up for all 3 formats simultaneously...

[@VoyagerGC]

@@ThatHomeTheaterDude indeed - problem is if you have one receiver, you just need to change cables prior to changing formats/codecs. the only advantage is layer 1 on DD because it is the base layer for the rest.

[@LceOnline]

So the lesson is, just chuck your speakers anywhere it doesn’t really matter

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

meh

[@LceOnline]

That Home Theater Dude yep, I think “meh” pretty much sums it up

[@simonemastellonephotography]

Those two sub is not better you place not between the two front

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

I dont have any other space in the room. i get that its not ideal, but there is a Db gain by having them closer together. They are pretty close to 1/4 lenth from the side wall

[@skunkendilly]

My goodness, it gets awful complicated, doesn't it? lol

[@korreyfoisy1857]

Way to super over complicate a simple thing that every receiver compensates for anyway.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

why did you click? It was clearly explained

[@goat9199]

Nerd

[@kevonmanuel]

I thumb down this video because of the Math involved. Real dude just eyeball.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

i know exactly what you can do with that thumb. Outta here with that BS

[@kevonmanuel]

@@ThatHomeTheaterDude It was a joke partner. You can chill with the tough-guy talk.

[@rosstee]

NewYorkBlack Pretty sure he was joking too 😄