Installing NVME Boot drive on HP Z400 with legacy BIOS [950 PRO SSD]

[@UrbanOzzy]

Samsung 950 Pro NVME bootable on HP Z400 with legacy bios, be sure to like the video! x

[@cheesengwong5697]

unable to detect the NVME M.2 in bios setting. I'm using XPG SX8100 NVME and Ugreen PCIe to M.2 board. Please help...

[@iangabrielalcantara7756]

@@cheesengwong5697 Try using the Clover method

[@XboxEuan]

Excellent video! Just done this with a HP z600 and getting 1707.81 read and 1541.70 write on CrystalDiskMark 8 while as a bootable drive. Thanks.

[@CheapSushi]

Nice! I bought the same drive because of the legacy aspect. I didn't want to fiddle anymore with hacks to make it work on my X79. My board actually has a BIOS update for it too.

[@UrbanOzzy]

Glad I could help

[@CheapSushi]

@@UrbanOzzy I just installed Windows 10 and it went smooth! I'm super happy. I even feel a bit of a difference in how snappy everything is.

[@honahwikeepa2115]

I'm going to put one in my HP Z440. Thanks for the cool advice. Cheers from Sydney Australia.

[@SirtubalotTX]

I know this is a little old but you got lucky, the Samsung 950 Pro happens to have an oprom (Option Rom) on board like the Intel 750 SSDs. If you tried any other NVME drive with this adapter it most likely would not work. Other World Computer has a couple of pci adapters that I believe have oproms but will have to check. Not sure of other SSDs or adapters that have oproms, but all other ones I have run across are passive. If there are any other NVME drive/adapters out there that have legacy boot support, feel free to comment.

[@UrbanOzzy]

That was the only reason I bought that drive, shame newer drives drops this support

[@dannyelmejor1999]

great video thanks for all :)

[@jonathwyllams]

Infelizmente, para mim, numa Foxconn Flamingblade, não funcionou 😔

[@alexmercer3013]

I will try this on my Z230

[@ervisbekteshi5695]

Interesting, I'm curious if it has to do with hp controllers, or would that work on any system as long as you choose "IDE" . I have a Lenovo S30 (x79) and would like to do the same

[@mzpool]

I have an HP z420 Workstation. I want to install this same m.2 nvme SSD and make it bootable for windows 10 will it work on my system. I have 1 PCIe X16 slots and Gen 3 X4 slot These are the specs. Xeon E5 1620 32 GB DDR3 ECC RAM RX 470 4GB OC EDITION

[@noice_xO]

Only m.2 sata work I am pretty sure because on mine it only works

[@quadraga2808]

Will Samsung EVO 860 M2 ssd work as a bootable drive? 950 is quite rare in my area, only managed to find 860

[@S1nbadi0]

Reason why its slow in writes is due to using IDE data config, IDE protocol was not built for SSD and so won't utilise full speed and windows won't be able to use trim either

[@UrbanOzzy]

If u watch the video, i have explain why i needed to put it into ide mode. As otherwise the legacy bio on the hp z400 wont be able to detect it

[@glyrics3410]

Wow interesting, can you let me know how you boot it or how you made a clean install on NVME? Maybe make a tutorial a detailed process?

[@glyrics3410]

Clean Install of Win 10?

[@UrbanOzzy]

@@glyrics3410 clean install yes

[@YSSGCupTea]

Dell T3500 has the same chipset. Does it work?

[@CGTGPFan]

I have t3500. Planning to try to install windows 11 pro using windowstousb by hasleo. And on the first boot use clover bootloader

[@brianboyd4284]

Did you ever find out your "actual" speeds?

[@Odesionavmilhun]

Hi I have HP Z800 and I’m trying to install NVMe 512GB using adapter to PCIE It it is been detected but windows giving me the following message “ Windows Cannot Be Installed To This Disk This Computer your SSD controller not supported. I changed in the BIOS to IDE as you instructed but still no success. I can use the NVMe as secondary Hard drive but not as main boot device. Any suggestions?

[@UrbanOzzy]

Install it on your main drive, then use a hard drive cloner. To clone it on to the nvme. Make sure it is in MBR partition before you clone it

[@Odesionavmilhun]

@@UrbanOzzy thanks for the fast reply. So you say install the OS on the sata ssd and than close to the NVMe using program like Macrium reflect? Should I close when NVMe attached to the PSIE and when I restart remove the SSD first? Should I keep IDE in Bios or it doesn’t matter? Thanks again👍🏻

[@tarunrawat8829]

@@Odesionavmilhun Bro, did it worked?

[@Odesionavmilhun]

@@tarunrawat8829 Hi no it didn’t what ever I tried it will only work as 2nd hard drive

[@tarunrawat8829]

@@Odesionavmilhun ok 👍, If I install heavy softwares or games on nvme secondary SSD, Will I still gain any benefits in this case. Thnx for your reply.

[@XenooS7]

Hey bro. Well I got an HP Z400 with a xeon w3550 that i was planning to sell because i think the cpu is bottlenecking gpus. But I saw videos on KZbin that it works great with some old gpus. So, do you recommend me to get a 1060 6gb for it? Or an rx 580? Is the psu gonna be enough? I heard the w3680 is the best one in that socket where can i get one?

[@isymdvr]

You can get w3690 @4ghz and 32gb of ram on the Z400 I have both and the computer is a beast if you also install NVME it will be awesome

[@XenooS7]

@@isymdvr update: I got an rx570 4gb, 12gb of ram on triple channel, and a W3680 overclocked to 4.1ghz, runs great, but i think the psu isnt enough, planning an upgrade soon. Generally decent gaming experience especially for the price these cost nowadays

[@isymdvr]

@@XenooS7 I got a 1060 also overclocked the CPU. PSU is not standard and you need an adapter for it so far works fine no need to upgrade it

[@XenooS7]

@@isymdvr i do want to swap the psu, but i cant atm cuz i dont have the adapter, and websites that sell it dont ship to my country

[@danetteenglund9801]

I have the same module here but I have the 256gb one, and the same Z400, but I have the X5680 CPU and 12GB of PC3-10600E ram, so it seems to have enough of that, but I tried the same thing U did but I used a USUAL plain X4 type plug-in cheap china type board, NOT that ribbon socket that you are using, I have a 1712 READ speed and a 958 WRITE speed in mbps, I am going to ASSUME it may be possible U lost some signal strength using the long cable ribbon as U do lose some signal on that, so best to just get the usual X4 slot cheapo NVME board and yes put it in that lower slot 4, that X16 slot and yes as you said change the Raid+AHCI to IDE, all will work fine and yes it will show up in the boot menu, so good job on the experiments but I am getting faster speeds on the lesser 256gb module, so the only thing I can see here is the ribbon-cable yes can create some loss there, so change that to a usual dollar china X4 slot board and UR set to go. BETTER YET they make this one board that has TWO sockets, the NVME socket and the NGFF one too with it's one Sata port, U can use THAT ONE which I use and then U can use the NGFF for a nice fast-storage drive to put on one of the Sata 2 ports on the mobo so U got maybe like 280 READ-WRITE speeds for that storage drive, all powered off that one single $8 type board.

[@bilaljamil7084]

hello. i have the same specs. can you give the link to purchase that x4 board you use in your computer?

[@ahmtTyln]

No usb stick or some sort, directly boot from nvme? cool.. 👍👍My system is on Evga x58 SLI LE( it has Legacy as well ) . do you think it boots from 950 pro?? because I ve read somewhere that legacy does not support system boot from 970 or 980 nvme drives. Bummer..😒😒

[@mraaron1584]

the 950 pro supports both ahci mode and nvme mode that's why these old machines can boot from them. any drive released after the 950 pro were only nvme witch most systems didn't support till around the x99/z97 era. there is a guy over on techpower up who was releasing modded bios for older systems including x58 that would let u boot an nvme drive. but its been a couple weeks and he has stopped responding to peoples request not sure if he is not doing it anymore or just busy.

[@_MaZTeR_]

@@mraaron1584 So this wouldn't work on a modern 970, 80 or 90 PRO Samsung NVMe?

[@mraaron1584]

not with old motherboards before nvme support was officially added. there was a guy making bios mods back in 2022 for x58 and some other series boards over on techpower up but he seems to have disappeared. added@@_MaZTeR_

[@triplefurious618]

Awesome

[@Freedave8080]

I have a Z620 will this M.2 upgrade work on it as bootable?

[@ဒိုင်ယာရီ1998]

Hello Bro, May i know dell inspiron 3847 pcie 3.0x1 sloft how to install nvme ssd and window with pcie adapter.

[@xLegend400]

Did you mod the power supply in any way? I see that you have a 2060 Super. Does it have any issues running?

[@UrbanOzzy]

its actually a 2080 super (undervolted), dual molex to 8 pin. no mods needed on the PSU. Watch my previous videos to see how i did it!

[@XenooS7]

@@UrbanOzzy isn't it bad for it?

[@elcapi2280]

Hello sir, is this power supply. It is compatible with other HP computer models. other than hp z400? DPS-475CB-1 A Power Supply 475W

[@thej7362]

i accidentally broke my first pci slot when replacing my gpu last year so... i hope this fits? lol

[@PrecisionGaming55]

Can SATA SSD 512GB work on HP Z400? SSDs use less volts to operate.

[@Kermit306TCI]

I have a SATA 2.5" Crucial MX500 1TB in the Z400,

[@massik1993]

My Samsung nvme still not detected in bios, I'm using hp z400 with Sabrent m2 adapter, any idea how to fix that? Thanks

[@UrbanOzzy]

Only works with 950 pro, because 950 pro has legacy buos within the ssd

[@benballano9212]

Hi ! Fury Panda, I would like to know if It is possible after installing wondows on Pcie Nvme m2 Samsumg Pro it can install others Pcie Nvme ssd bootable in others slots PCIe, to turn on Windows and to create a logical Storage Drive with the rest of PCie Nvme M2 ssd, So first boot from the first drive however with the rest of storage capacity Pcie Nvme M.2. It could be posibble as a Logical Drive, in fact, every phisical hardware slot pcie nvme m2 will get speeder by every channel bus comunicartion slot Pcie, do you understand my question ? Getting faster read write speed on all windows,

[@zizoidn5648]

Whtas you windows?

[@lyminlime]

My graphics card is blocking it too T . T don't feel like taking it all apart

[@jhanmarthng8532]

I have a z600 ver1 , will it work? If booting linux (gpt partition) will the system recognize the nvme drive?

[@UrbanOzzy]

only boots from MBR partition. Z400 or Z600 won't recognise GPT

[@jhanmarthng8532]

@@UrbanOzzy ahhhh got it ! THANKS FOR THE INFO ☺️

[@chandraprakashjonwal9933]

Intel dh 61 motherboard work nvme ssd

[@mohammedmg6354]

Will Samsung 980 pro will be detected too like the 950 ?

[@UrbanOzzy]

no

[@xLegend400]

So only a 950 pro would work?

[@iangabrielalcantara7756]

Even 970 wouldn't work I think

[@xLegend400]

@@iangabrielalcantara7756 bought a 970 evo... doesn't work

[@iangabrielalcantara7756]

@@xLegend400 Yup as expected

[@拍摄瞬间]

Can this method be used on Z800?

[@brettvast1774]

Most likely yes ... Check out "theartofserver" on youtube and ebay. He shows some solutions for Z800 systems. Please note that after my many purchases to improve the speed ... the first question is why? SSD's in MOST real world user situations do not need a faster data transfer - you will never notice the difference. If you really need that faster speed get a new computer. In all of my testing on a Z800 ... nothing beats RUNNING SAMSUNG MAGICIAN with a SAMSUNG SSD SATA3 on my SATA 2 ide connections (not the SAS connections (just move the cable on the motherboard from SAS to SATA to keep using the hard drive bays)). I'm sure a 4 card bifurcated solution would work at an enormous expense (again if needed buy a new computer) I have purchased used OWC Mercury Accelsior E2 cards with dual memory sticks (they use an older design stick design (Mac 2012/2013 design)) and they work perfectly in a Z600/Z800 with speeds around 600 MBps or greater.

[@拍摄瞬间]

@@brettvast1774 Thank you friend

[@rcdenis1]

On my z800 the bios detected the drive and the operating system was able to use it but I was not able to get ithe computer to boot from it.

[@y0urner0gaming]

Hello why can't find my nvme drive gpt on boot order, model hp z420?

[@UrbanOzzy]

you need MBR partition

[@y0urner0gaming]

@@UrbanOzzy i changed to mbr but still same

[@UrbanOzzy]

@@y0urner0gaming no idea then, this video was made for HP z400 and using a 950PRO nvme ssd

[@MAlazhariy]

hey bro, what the kind of your ssd m.2 you used?

[@MAlazhariy]

I have the same problem but with Crucial m.2

[@WędkarzZPółnocy]

why do you need this memory?

[@evemaddison8909]

It's not something needed, but if you want your computer to work better when starting it up-loading in windows faster-gaming loading-perfomsnce boost It's a good option as it is very fast

[@jos3luis]

I installed a m.2 predator on ahci recognized at first boot

[@UrbanOzzy]

yes, ahci drive can also be bootable. What model was it?

[@jos3luis]

@@UrbanOzzy kingston hyperx m.2 gen2

[@triplefurious618]

What

[@brianboyd4284]

Me too. I also have a M.2 HyperX predator ahci booting Windows 11 clean install on my Z800. It gives me about 1327mbps read. I have great reads from mine all around. Especially with USB 3.0 with PLX chip. Im actually very curious what the "real" speeds are using the IDE settings.

[@yellowking36]

It's a workstation, a computer.

[@UMBRELLACORPORATION-j8m]

This is all bull; it makes you wonder how hard is for manufactures to install a small software that will make your NVME be read as a hard drive on any Bios?

[@srarcade]

1 year later these 950 Pros are $300 of whats left of them. =( I wish there was an alternative...

[@srarcade]

@@UrbanOzzy yea i guess, difference should be nominal hopefully

[@NABEELAZIZ]

Will this method work on HP Z420?

[@UrbanOzzy]

No idea, give it a try

[@NABEELAZIZ]

@@UrbanOzzy Z420 is a newer model than z400. It should work but all are saying me that it's not working

[@MAlazhariy]

@@NABEELAZIZ What did you do bro? I have an M.2 for my hp z420 but it is not booting! Did you solve it?

[@NABEELAZIZ]

@@MAlazhariy you have to purchase hp turbo ahci card in order to boot it. Hp z420 only supports ahci card of its own company. Is your nvme showing in boot order?

[@ufo1977]

@@NABEELAZIZ Only works with 950 pro, because 950 pro has legacy buos within the ssd

[@triplefurious618]

What adapter is that?

[@UrbanOzzy]

Pcie x4 to nvme adapter

[@triplefurious618]

Ok

[@handlehidden-f2j]

a furry

[@techsocial7458]

Does pcie v. 2 support nvme ssd

[@dpalacios7248]

You must have a nvme to pcie card.