WILL IT WORK? Installing An NVME In An Old Dell Desktop (2010)

[@jehielmayoni6946]

It should work. The drive is un allocated and needs formatting. Format it as NTFS file system.

[@skip741x3]

also need to be GPT and not MBR.. very important

[@mralbert6588]

Im trying to install my Samsung SSD 980 NVMe M.2 SSD (adapted) in a PCI-e Card. About to try this same Crazy Upgrade cause if it Works,,, it should be faster than the SSD i currently have running on SATA? But what about a Bios Update for my DELL Optiplex 790 with an i3 ? Can you shoot me the steps? Dell website has this (((This is the latest Dell validated version of this driver O790-A22.exe | 5.58 MB)))

[@calholli]

There is a common workaround for this and many vidz about it. You use a simple software called "clover" and make it boot from a USB drive, then from there it will recognize the NVME and you can boot windows from there. It's one extra step and you have to permanently install a USB drive (usually internally, ideally), but it can be done and works well.

[@TriceCrew4LIFE]

I'm having trouble getting Windows to boot from it when I try to run NVME off of Clover it shows a black screen. How can I fix this?

[@guhitph]

I don't why I watch this. I do not even have a pc in my home. 🤣😂🤣😂

[@jamesbarnes9504]

I also use “older” Dell computers. Appreciate you informational video and your viewers comments.

[@AJaytheCEO]

Glad to be of help

[@kevinmcavoy4768]

you can make the nvme bootable using clover boot manager!

[@donquiero9125]

Format the M.2NVMe in device manager,power down computer, disconnect c:drive and then try installing a fresh copy of windows into the Pci e M.2 try to see if that works.

[@calholli]

It won't.. the bios will never see it. There is a common workaround for this and many vidz about it. You use a simple software called "clover" and make it boot from a USB drive, then from there it will recognize the NVME and you can boot windows from there. It's one extra step and you have to permanently install a USB drive (usually internally, ideally), but it can be done and works well.

[@jackjude]

Your pc is a bit more recent than 2010, it's got a Haswell CPU so 2013/14 perhaps?

[@cyabongampaul]

Hey Ajay, even my i5-8400, z370 doesn't detect the nvme in UFEI but shows up in legacy

[@AJaytheCEO]

Wow ok

[@RamaOshiLo]

if you have driver pcienvme express ,you can use it for windows bootable. if not,you still can use it with clover usb stick. but old motherboard havent this features/driver. and than i think pcie gen3 slot max x16 speed nvme its only 3,4Gbps R/W

[@EliasBulbulToronto]

That should work as bootable too. You need to change some settings

[@putraadriansyah8082]

Leave a USB DOM to make a 2 stage bootloader.. the BIOS loads first bootloader (grub2, refind) then chainload the windows boot manager from there

[@MsHojat]

Woah I didn't know that was possible. Sounds messy and maybe a good way to eventually somehow accidentally corrupt an OS. So you'd have GRUB on an older drive, which then boots to windows on the new NVMe drive?

[@putraadriansyah8082]

@@MsHojat yes.. I have done that to to boot a VM into unsupported bootable media (a lot of VM doesn't support USB booting)

[@thedhirajdiaries]

Can we use pcie adapter in laptop for upgrading if slot is not available for m2 port

[@AJaytheCEO]

I'm not sure as I haven't tested that

[@ShubhamJMusic]

Did it work?

[@markallen2536]

It should if you install a fresh load of windows to it using that computer. If not, HP had Samsung produce a series of M.2 NVME's for their mini desktops. One of those should work fine.

[@djreb8505]

Would this work as an extra storage space like an external?

[@AJaytheCEO]

Yes it would

[@samanthagriffinv2.08]

I’m sure if you unplug the sata ssd and pull up the windows installer it would probably show up as an installable drive

[@TrendsLayer]

We can boot using EasyBCD

[@penangarcia7158]

@AJaytheCEO can you make a video showing how to copy or migrate os to a ssd I’ve been trying to find videos about it but I recently got a ssd and in my computer I have os on a hdd and I am getting into computers but I don’t know how to migrate the os from hdd to ssd please help thanks.

[@AJaytheCEO]

sure. I have to do this later this week

[@skip741x3]

bro, Ive been considering the same upgrade to a dell 9020 optiplex..It can be done but requires using a different bootmanager that will recognize the nvme drive..example would be to use Clover which Will recognize nvme...I have both windows 10 and mac catalina on my dell...so I use clover anyway and boot from there... should work fine on a hackentosh build and I dont see why windows would not show and boot from clover on nvme..

[@AJaytheCEO]

I believe that will work. I was thinking about doing this with my hackintosh originally

[@krystunletchworth7843]

Could i have an update on for that went with your 9020? Im about to do the same thing and im just trying to make sure it works.

[@linuxlover_8436]

@@AJaytheCEO dId you ever try clover? thinking of buying an nvme and pcie adapter and trying to use clover to see if I can figure it out. will mainly try to use Linux. In the past, I had bought a revodrive x2 (very costly at the time) which was AHCI pcie w/a max of 700MBps and it worked well just until its warranty was about up (which I was able to recoop the entire cost due to an extended warranty I had on it, thankfully. My current mobo is a 990FX which has served me well and I wanted to try to use clover since I've seen a custom bios someone created, but I'd imagine clover would be a much safer risk.

[@AJaytheCEO]

@@linuxlover_8436 No I never got around to trying it

[@linuxlover_8436]

no worries, after I feel I've done enough research, I will make an attempt at clover and post results. thanks

[@vikingwithwings]

Did you check the bios in the pc? Sometimes it would be updated to add compability with new hardware. Don’t know in this specific case, but worth to consider and check out. Great channel by the way.

[@Hankotoba]

i have an old dell optiplex with an i7 4790 and you cant set it as a boot device but u can use it as a mass storage, i bios updated and looked up forums, none work, i assume dell use the same motherboards in diffedrent models

[@cyabongampaul]

You could use msi smart tool, download the OS.iso transfer it to a usb using that app also check nvme driver option

[@zeroturn7091]

You have to mod the BIOS.

[@jimmybcs]

Need to upgrade the firm ware if availalble...

[@lilluminatoalternativo3926]

The Bios must be updated with one modified with codes so that it can see the NVME at boot time

[@dalejourdan8404]

did you attempt to change boot mode to UEFI?

[@AJaytheCEO]

I didn't remember if I did or didn't

[@rehoboth_farm]

Have you tried updating your bios?

[@AJaytheCEO]

I was on the latest BIOS version

[@calholli]

@@AJaytheCEO There is a common workaround for this and many vidz about it. You use a simple software called "clover" and make it boot from a USB drive, then from there it will recognize the NVME and you can boot windows from there. It's one extra step and you have to permanently install a USB drive (usually internally, ideally), but it can be done and works well.

[@waddahrasengan3414]

Modify Bios files and add NVME drivers to it so you can boot from nvme

[@daniDEE_tv]

very informative , thank you

[@AJaytheCEO]

Glad it was helpful!

[@asdsdsd1092]

Can I use Samsung Magician to update the firmware of a 980 pro with a setup like this?

[@AJaytheCEO]

I believe so

[@UsmanMehmood661]

I want to do this upgrade on my Dell T7500, how to do this

[@AJaytheCEO]

Get an NVME PCIe adapter card that will fir inside your system with whatever size drive you want and it should work

[@milankostov1062]

update bios !?

[@nafelbood2343]

Did you update bios version from A04 to a newest last version, such A14 for Optiplex 390 i3 2nd gen. ??

[@AJaytheCEO]

Yes I did

[@danniananta199]

hey ajay, how do you record the bios?

[@AJaytheCEO]

Atem mini

[@danniananta199]

@@AJaytheCEO thanks man.

[@farhadkhanmech7629]

No it will work bcoz in old system if u want to boot from nvme u need to click f5, f6, f7, f8, f11 during turning on ur system

[@shihabuddinahmad7284]

Bro why don't you allocate the drive first and see it again. It might just work.

[@tatsumasa6332]

With clover + clean install of win 10 is the only way to do @ this point.

[@AJaytheCEO]

Yeah sad but true

[@nirajbhardwaj5640]

Dell BIOS doesn't allow boot through Nvme ssd on on Pcie adaptor even on Optiplex 3040 which is intel 6th gen PC, it also doesn't have M.2 Nvme slot inbuilt on motherboard.. but Lenovo ThinkCentre machine can boot through Nvme ssd on Pcie adaptor.. i tried on M900

[@firstlast5350]

Good info. I have 3010 so guess that's not going to work. Better off finding slot for sata ssd.

[@fakrah1]

it's mean that it just can use as storage only....hurm....

[@ဒိုင်ယာရီ1998]

Hi Bro, My computer dell inspiron 3847. I am install this computer Graphic card but i need to install graphic card and Nvme SSD dual install . How to make this process. Pls help me and guide line video sharing to me . Thanks

[@ဒိုင်ယာရီ1998]

I have a SP SSD P34A80 Model.

[@gddraftsman5617]

im using b85 pro gaming asus mobo, can i use nvme as my os?

[@AJaytheCEO]

It's hard to say without testing

[@gddraftsman5617]

@@AJaytheCEO OW huhu i want to try it for cad works and videos making

[@ranaafaq842]

nice support

[@kunalsinghchauhan4820]

Hello, My PC is 7 years old. My Configuration is Processor:- Intel i7 4770K 3.5 GHz & Motherboard:- Asus Z87 PRO. I want to ask you which type of SSD my PC will support NVMe M.2 SSD(which Gen?) with PCIe Adapter or a 2.5 SATA SSD. please let me know. Thank you.

[@DanutaStefańska-g6x]

if not slot for NVMe disk then not efi/bios dupport, so use adapter NVMe M.2 to sata, first you maximum RAM extend.

[@riajulsk9679]

Sir can I run i7 2th Jen desktop m.2 nvme please reply sir

[@TimothyCampbell-h4z]

Not going to get the speed out of it either, it's not going to be any faster than the sata SSD drive.

[@gmeeks6004]

Sata adapter will boot

[@miner4life628]

change SATA EMULATION to IDE

[@AJaytheCEO]

okay

[@hoolomao]

Can I use this Adaptor in PCIe x1 Slot? as x16 is occupied by "Asus GeForce GT 710 2GB GDDR5" ( Both Slots are PCIe 2.0).

[@AJaytheCEO]

I do not believe so. At least the one I have wouldn't work

[@sumvanna1779]

I have dell t3500 not m. 2ssd

[@sumvanna1779]

You free vidio induction boots Rufus

[@andreikolas8922]

it is possible, but very complicated. just use sata ssd

[@pongtanan1558]

2013 no 2010

[@agj.7331]

It doesn't look initialised , Take out other drive .format and reinstall OS , Problem solved

[@johnsim77]

I have and old mobo (socket 1366) and i am trying to install windows 10 in expansion card with NVME M2 2TB. I received message that : "Windows cannot be installed to this disk. This computers hardware may not support booting to this disk. Ensure That the disk controller is enabled in the computers BIOS menu." Can i bypass this using WinNTsetup or clover ?

[@AJaytheCEO]

I believe so with clover

[@lores9461]

You ned to modify the bios in service mode similar to kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKW9oaGIq8RgoqM

[@nttam1920]

Useless presentation. Do your homework. This is not adding value to anyone.

[@calholli]

It shows you what doesn't work. lol.. saving people time. How is that not adding value? ALso, There is a common workaround for this and many vidz about it. You use a simple software called "clover" and make it boot from a USB drive, then from there it will recognize the NVME and you can boot windows from there. It's one extra step and you have to permanently install a USB drive (usually internally, ideally), but it can be done and works well.