Installing Woodland Scenics 4% incline risers

[@cdjhyoung]

I've recently built a grade using the 2% grade risers. I found it easier in my case to cut a template that described the outer edge of the risers. It made it easier for me to follow my intended path instead of trying to sight a center line and guestimate how it aligned with the riser center line. After laying cork road bed and the flex track, I realized I had installed one of the risers upside down. I would not have thought this would cause problem, but it introduced a hump at one junction in the riser path. I'll be able to correct it by freeing the cork from the riser and shimming the cork for about 6 inches, but this indicates that some care should be exercised in using this product. I too used a cheap acrylic adhesive caulk to glue the risers to my foam baseboard.

[@DetroitRiverRailroad]

Nice one. It's all a learning curve for all of us

[@DetroitRiverRailroad]

Thanks, the risers come already tapered you can get them as 4%, 3% and 2%. They save you alot of work instead of working out the slope % and making something out of plywood. Also because my layout is portable it makes the layout lighter.

[@hythesailor]

What a super product. Definitely going to use that in the future. Thanks for a great video.

[@HondaCivic7thGe]

Thanks, if I could do it all again I wouldn't use the 4% incline I would have gone for the 3%

[@hythesailor]

@@HondaCivic7thGe That's useful to know. Cheers.

[@agnostic47]

I used the Woodlands Scenics 2% riser to produce a figure 8 climb on my 009 layout. Without the WS product getting a perfectly even gradient over 16 feet would have been very difficult.

[@DetroitRiverRailroad]

It does make much easier

[@MrSteed464]

Excellent demonstration, Thank yoiu so much for putting this on youtube.... I am going to use these foam risers as i am tired of flat layouts....

[@DetroitRiverRailroad]

I would not use 4% incline again as it causes trouble with loco getting up and the slope. sorry for my late reply

[@lionellance]

Great job..thanks for sharing. .I want to do something like that on my new ho layout. .

[@sparky107107]

nice video.. i just did my risers, i myself done like to glue them down.. so many ways to do the same job.

[@DetroitRiverRailroad]

+sparky107107 nice one, what % incline did you use?.

[@DetroitRiverRailroad]

The only loco I have tried with the 4% incline is a Intermountain SD40-2W, and it handled the incline ok

[@phillipg1588]

This is all good but would like to see track laying on top of the risers. Will assume track has to be glued into position?

[@P90F55]

Finally someone used caulk with Woodland Scenics raisers. That's what I'm planning.

[@DetroitRiverRailroad]

Nice

[@DetroitRiverRailroad]

the dims are 1.8m x 1.3m. the foam risers make it easy, but 4% is to steep for the locos.

[@denassdidu]

Finely some one that really knows to show their their skill's Thank you

[@DetroitRiverRailroad]

I'm going to glue down a foam trackbed first using the acrylic sealant then lay the track on top using PVA glue. I am in the middle of making a video on lay the track down now.

[@rs6383]

👍I like the risers, seem to go down pretty nice. It looks like you're using a ridged putty knife. I have better results with a more flexible knife. Just my opinion. Thanks for the informative video.🚂

[@DetroitRiverRailroad]

I'll try that out next time😁

[@sidneywilliams3113]

Hello, Im a new novice HO scale hobbyist and have been scouring websites, magazines and emailing various pros on the best way to incorporate an HO scale train layout with an HO racing set layout with limited success? Im finding info on one or the other, but not combined? I'm guessing that the majority of the race track would need to be elevated above or over the train track layout? My starter kits are the 4 lane AFX International Raceway (I like the Japan layout, but want to add track) and a two engine Bachman HO Train set (Its oval layout ,but Im adding track). The bench work will be either 8"x14' or 10'x12' L shaped. Id appreciate if anyone could share some advise? Thanks, Outstanding video!

[@DetroitRiverRailroad]

I have never mixed slot cars with model railroad so I don't have any real advice. You should make some videos of your progress

[@buntik1687]

Great video! This have helped me a lot!

[@DetroitRiverRailroad]

+buntik1687 your welcome, glad the video helped you out

[@pymbrook]

Very informative video on the woodland riser system. Does the risers that you show come already tapered from 0 grade and upward, or did you have to do that with some sort of form cutter. I was considering the cookie cutter tract system but do want to cut into my roadbed. Thanks

[@joestrainworldvideos3977]

Great information I need. I subscribed.Joe's train world videos 😃😀

[@jgehbinv]

Thank you for sharing ... great job!

[@DetroitRiverRailroad]

+Jeff G thanks glad you enjoyed the video

[@richardu6244]

Detroit River Railroad I'm new to the hobby and was wondering where i can find the paper template you have to keep your risers and track in-line. I thank you in advance.

[@DetroitRiverRailroad]

+Richard Urrabas Hi, the track plan was designed with some software called Anyrail. I then printed out the track plan 1:1 on A1 paper then cut out it out and glued it down to the bench work Hopes this helps you out

[@richardu6244]

That's what I needed. Thank you sir.

[@GIoryGuru]

Hey mate, what program did you use to plan and print your design? And what kind of sealant did you use? Cheers

[@DetroitRiverRailroad]

GloryGuru hi, I used the anyrail software it lets you print out the pdf sheets at A0 The sealant I used is a acrylic sealant usually used for gap filling

[@ripjeffhanneman]

Is there a way to shorten the length of these things for roads, not track? I just want my road to get to the top of a 4" hill while not using much length..

[@DetroitRiverRailroad]

Use could use a Hotwire cutter to adjust the grade

[@unionpacific8330]

Get two and put them back to back that way you get an 8% grade over the same distance

[@FiveElms]

Also, is 4% good for most loco's?

[@FiveElms]

How do you fix track to the incline mate?

[@westlag]

Do you know where I can buy the foam in the UK I have searched everywhere without success. Does it have a name - Thanks

[@DetroitRiverRailroad]

westlag Hi, In Australia by the time my local hobby shop imports the product, it is just a expensive as buying it from the USA yourself. I use a USA hobbyshop called model train stuff they have good prices.The product is from Woodland scenics and it's apart of the Subterrain Lightweight Layout System. Good luck Regards, Michael

[@tomlawton7087]

Hattons carry the range. Search for "woodland scenics incline"

[@bigjon7143]

I have 4% on my n scale layout I'm building. On a DC test, my loco has no problem with a load but my rolling stock comes uncoupled on the incline. Help! Any advice?

[@DetroitRiverRailroad]

+Big Jon sounds like the point where it's to go from flat to incline is too steep. Are you using the woodlands scenics product?.

[@bigjon7143]

Detroit River Railroad yes, woodland scenics. It's actually on a curve that they come uncoupled.

[@DetroitRiverRailroad]

have you checked that your couplers are at the right height

[@ASMRBino]

Great video for unintentional ASMR

[@gepetto62]

Wouldn't be easier to use clear sealant us you can see your plan.

[@DetroitRiverRailroad]

+Richard Haas clear would be good, you can still see the track plan as long it is spread thin enough

[@wjam43]

where did get your track design from i like it did make it and buy it

[@DetroitRiverRailroad]

Hi, I designed the track layout myself I have some PDF's of the plans if you would like them just send me your e-mail address

[@wjam43]

ok great [e-mail]

[@gregorymurillovilla4225]

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[@trs-no8lm]

I'm thinking of using the risers. Can they be stacked? I need to go up to around 8"

[@DetroitRiverRailroad]

Yes they can using foam inclines and risers, check out there websites

[@mandarin1257]

4% is quite steep!

[@DetroitRiverRailroad]

Way to steep, I wouldn't recommend it

[@mandarin1257]

@@DetroitRiverRailroad depends on the layout. A narrow gauge train will often run on even steeper grades, while a huge cargo train will need a helper in real life. I'm an H0e modeller (HOn30 for people in the US, HO scale trains that run on N scale track to simulate ~760mm narrow gauge for people who don't know) so it would still be prototypical for me.

[@ryansproviero]

I'm a little late to this party but anyone have any advice on going beyond a 4% grade?

[@DetroitRiverRailroad]

Might not work if you have a long train. I found when the loco was coming down the slope as it transition from 4% to Level the snow plough would bottom out. This was fixed by removing the snow plough but probably was to steep

[@ryansproviero]

@@DetroitRiverRailroad I'm running an MTH RailKing E8 ABA. Room is 24x10 with a 12 ft ceiling on the high 24 run and 9 ft on the lower 24 ft run. The train is going on the wall going around and will sit at 7 ft on the lower wall so I'm trying to elevate it a bit as it makes it way to the higher wall. Planning on a trestle at each side of the lower 24 ft run as well as one on each of the 10 ft walls. Was planning on about 7 Streamlined passenger cars. Going to try and avoid making turns during the incline. Seems like that helps and I'm having rubber tires put on the engines to help a bit.

[@raulfernandez2546]

Lo pueden subitular en español?

[@DetroitRiverRailroad]

Not sure about the subtitles

[@unionpacific8330]

Why not pin the risers to the track then glue down remove track and done?

[@DetroitRiverRailroad]

good idea

[@mxferro]

Forgive me but you have laminated board. With No severe curves or trackwork. Why not simply do cookie cutter using the board and forego any hassle with the foam risers?

[@DetroitRiverRailroad]

That's a good point. I wanted to try the foam riser to see if they were any good

[@michaelhband]

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