Longbow Arrow Tuning - Curing Left Groups With Traditional Bows!

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Instinctive Addiction Archery With Jeff Phillips

Instinctive Addiction Archery With Jeff Phillips

Күн бұрын

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@IdahoEagle77
@IdahoEagle77 7 ай бұрын
My arrows were grouping perfectly with my black hunter longbow, but the second I switched to my self-bow longbow, my arrows started grouping to the left. My bow doesn’t have a shelf. Thank you for this video, Jeff!
@deborahhicks7375
@deborahhicks7375 3 жыл бұрын
Hey brother Jeff. Just want to tell you what an awesomely informative channel you have. I'm 66 years young and have been shooting trad bows since I was 9 years old. It took me until I was almost 30 to start unraveling the secrets of tuning the bow with the arrows to achieve perfect arrow flight with them. I stumbled around in the dark mostly thinking some bows shot for me but others just didn't. You put the pieces of the puzzle together better than anyone else I've ever watched. Wish I'd have known back then what I know now. I got rid of a lot of perfectly good bows that I didn't know enough to make them shoot well for me. You ought to have a billion subscribers. Thank you because now all my bows shoot incredibly well by me using the things you teach. Now I'm going to master this heavy FOC thing so I can die in peace and go to heaven whenever the Master calls me home...
@Obijohn_Wick
@Obijohn_Wick 6 ай бұрын
I just found your channel yesterday and I have learned more about arrow tuning than in the 10 years I Have been shooting traditional, great videos!
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 6 ай бұрын
Thank you sir and I’ve got a brand new hunting arrow series coming up in cooperation with 3Rivers Archery that’s hopefully going to be very interesting!
@edwardbiasi37
@edwardbiasi37 9 ай бұрын
Yes sir! Every video helps Jeff, more than you know
@jacktribble5253
@jacktribble5253 3 жыл бұрын
You do have a way of teaching practicality and mechanics. If everyone communicated the way you do, there would be a lot less misunderstanding in the world. Much appreciation. Best of Days to You and Yours.
@averagejoe8213
@averagejoe8213 9 ай бұрын
I'm learning a little with each video! Thanks again for all!
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 9 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for watching them 👍🏻
@93med1
@93med1 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jeff. I went to 125 grains and holy cow, it works. I’ve been consistently grouping left with my longbow and now I’m centred.
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome brother thanks for watching 👍🏻
@austinsayer7712
@austinsayer7712 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like this is the Bill Dave of traditional archery. Love it
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks !
@Zarrem7490
@Zarrem7490 3 жыл бұрын
You could also leave your arrows longer, that will weaken the spine
@stefanlindner2348
@stefanlindner2348 4 ай бұрын
thanks Jeff for this clear and profound demonstration / regards from Bavaria
@jharchery4117
@jharchery4117 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful, but I would like to share another observation. I recently went from a past center cut recurve to a longbow and fought this same issue. I finally got the right arrows, but found that I had to pay special attention to keep my bow arm from over extending. I think that one MUST bend the bow arm slightly to gain alignment on a longbow. Once I corrected this, I had no more right grouping arrows (I am left handed), thanks for an excellent presentation.
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 3 жыл бұрын
Yes sir you are correct thanks so much for watching 👍🏻
@jerrycox2058
@jerrycox2058 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome job of explaining it all. it makes it easier for people to wrap their heads around it when it is both explained plainly and shown. when a person finally gets his equipt matched correctly it becomes easier to shoot better with proper practice. when everything is "tuned" correctly, you get better performance out it all which translates to the arrow's performance being best when hitting the quarry. more likely to have a pass tru and deeper penetration. keep it up Brother!
@matthewyu3531
@matthewyu3531 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. Your video solved a big problem for me.
@randyanderson5299
@randyanderson5299 2 жыл бұрын
Jeff I'm sorry to here you guys are going out of business but I understand. Why. Health is so much more important. I love the bow I bought shoots very well. Again take care an be healthy..Randall from Wisconsin
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother it’s a really tough decision but we know it’s the right one ☝️
@brianmuller1737
@brianmuller1737 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice channel you have. Love to watch and learn from you. Cheers from Denmark 🇩🇰
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks so much!
@Terpedup925
@Terpedup925 2 жыл бұрын
I have a take down longbow. I have the Easton legacy traditional 400 spine. I’m alway grouping to the left. I’m going to check my tip weight(don’t remember 😂) but I’ll definitely be trying heavier weight up front. Just ordered some arrow from big Jim’s bow company, 500 spine with 100 grain inserts and got some field point of difference weights so I can pick the right weight. Thanks for the info Jeff
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 2 жыл бұрын
Yes sir that should do the trick! 👍🏻
@fordprefect1130
@fordprefect1130 2 жыл бұрын
Only just found your channel. Love your explanation, but hope I find info on shooting & tuning wood arrows
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 2 жыл бұрын
My friend Trevor Fielder owns TTT archery he’s the absolute authority on wood arrows, he’s got a lot of good videos and a huge bow string company TTT Strings, he’s on Facebook and will answer any questions that you might have, I only specialize in carbon and aluminum set ups but I’ll help any way possible thanks!
@fordprefect1130
@fordprefect1130 2 жыл бұрын
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 thanks will check out the other channel
@r1sabotage
@r1sabotage 3 жыл бұрын
Holy cow, I think you just solved my problem... I have three bows, two 45# and a 50#. Two shoot straight and one keep shooting to the left. I'm going to try your recommendation to see what happens.
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 3 жыл бұрын
Load it up 😁😁
@karate357
@karate357 25 күн бұрын
Awesome video and information. Stay blessed!🙏🏽
@joshsanford3540
@joshsanford3540 Жыл бұрын
This helped me ty I been struggling with griping high to the left
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 Жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@frankiebob7345
@frankiebob7345 2 жыл бұрын
I have done exactly what you described with the exact same results. However I did so only because I had two dozen arrows cut a little too short. What I prefer now is to simply let an additional inch stick out front and shoot 200 gn total tip and insert with the same GT 500 trad. Surprised you did not mention this. Arrow length. Bow poundage and your draw length would be good information to know.
@johnd7215
@johnd7215 3 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video here. Those Vict Trad 550's might just be what I am looking for. Thankyou.
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 3 жыл бұрын
👍🏻
@tomwarrick4945
@tomwarrick4945 3 жыл бұрын
Your bow would love 600 or 700 spine arrows with normal 120 -145 gr. tips. As you point out 9/32 or thinner arrows help as would longer arrows
@kevinblanchard611
@kevinblanchard611 3 жыл бұрын
Why would he change anything?
@jackzawada4375
@jackzawada4375 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm curious, I mean, I like my bow to shoot fast, and it's just barely 40lb @ 29in. Idk if 250gr FOC is really an option at that draw weight unless you want your arrows sinking like a stone...
@ultimatejay
@ultimatejay 2 жыл бұрын
@@kevinblanchard611 - If you add weight to your arrow you lose speed. Too much weight and your arrow speed is too low causing higher arcs and lower penetration.
@JW-bw8nj
@JW-bw8nj 45 минут бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking as well. I wouldn't hesitate to load up the front to tune arrows for my 55# longbow, but I don't think I'd want to load the front up too much for my 40# longbow arrows. For the 40# bow, I'd much rather go to a less stiff shaft like a 600 spine instead of weighing up a 500 spine.
@caseymclamb5890
@caseymclamb5890 Жыл бұрын
Definitely the video I was looking for! Thanks for the great tip brother!
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 Жыл бұрын
Thank you my friend glad it was helpful 👍🏻
@joelgraber7862
@joelgraber7862 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome advice, great shooting by the way!
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother 👍🏻
@richmerlo2769
@richmerlo2769 3 жыл бұрын
Great information , saves a lot of trial and error , thanks !
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome brother 👍🏻
@missionman4539
@missionman4539 11 ай бұрын
Love this method I’ve been using it for years
@Ahlop18
@Ahlop18 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! I tune my carbon trad arrows and gold tips just the same as you do with different grain tips and it works like magic especially my carbon trad arrows I only shoot those because of the arrows has a traditional feel and look and flies through the air with no problem
@sweetchariotengland
@sweetchariotengland 9 ай бұрын
Did it help? It do. Bow making is a bunch of elements formed together, I think this is an important one. Makes a lot of sense when you are seeking to understand
@dsdssdsd283
@dsdssdsd283 3 жыл бұрын
Good points. I almost felt bad shooting my longbow even some recurve around 50lb that require a 250 up front tip for my 400 spine fmj 30” long as if it’s an indicator of their subpar performance compared to my ilf bow (even though visually hardly so). I guess it’s actually pretty common to be shooting 500s on a wooden bow. To remedy this I was planning to get longer 400s to also shrink the gap some. In fact I haven’t been able to get a good sight picture with my ‘straight shooting’ bows because I’m looking at a 36” gap at 25 which forces me to reference back and forth on an animal target.
@brovold72
@brovold72 Жыл бұрын
Holy cow. I shoot a take-down recurve left-handed and guess what? I group slightly to the right. My carbon arrows might be too rigid even with weighted inserts, but I think this at least puts me on the right track. I was seriously wondering if I was fully left-eyed etc.
@tjchawla
@tjchawla 3 жыл бұрын
Great content! Will definitely try this for the upcoming deer season!
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks brother!
@markhicks1544
@markhicks1544 7 ай бұрын
Jeff, I enjoy your videos. I appreciate the sincerity. Have you done a video on how to cure shooting to the right? I shoot right with a recurve, longbow and a Selfbow. I’ve tried changing my grip, my anchor, how I draw the bow and my release. Some shots are vertical, but more of them go to the right. Help!
@mattrusso6772
@mattrusso6772 2 жыл бұрын
Nice teaching man ! 🤘
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother glad you enjoyed it and hopefully it helped a little 👍🏻
@ScottWinters
@ScottWinters 3 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial my friend. Thanks for sharing.
@danny_the_K
@danny_the_K 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us.
@JoshTheFlyGuy
@JoshTheFlyGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Jeff can’t believe I found your channel today. Found you by looking up some info on the Hoyt Satori Takedown bows (ordered one up extremely excited coming in this weekend!) Anywho I’ve been trying to group really well with my current recurve bow (Bear Super Grizzly 50# at 28” but I’m drawing 27”) shooting 400 Traditional GT’s with 150grain field tips at 15 yards. I’m more convinced due to being a new archer that its more user error than the bow and arrows. But I do notice on some good days I’ll get a good few shots in the target of my box and other times they’re sporadic or grouping to the high left. Not sure if i should be adjusting the weight of field tips. Got any suggestions? Thanks for the videos man. I’ve been more inspired to shoot instinctively and still learning more about it.
@UncleDanBand64
@UncleDanBand64 Жыл бұрын
Yep and you can go 600's with standard inserts and 100 to 125. If that don't give you enough cant the bow a bit more. So then your deflection goes left on a 45 and cuts your left by half and causes your impact to increase by 5 to 10 yards velocity dependant of course.
@SuitAndTieGuy88
@SuitAndTieGuy88 2 жыл бұрын
Good bless you sir.
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@oblio10
@oblio10 3 ай бұрын
That was helpful! Thank you!
@rakkup7572
@rakkup7572 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff!
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@RobinSingh-qz7ve
@RobinSingh-qz7ve 3 жыл бұрын
Love ur videos , plz make a video on Gap shooting . Thnx
@Patriot1777
@Patriot1777 3 жыл бұрын
Cool advice.
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother 👍🏻
@robertcrowther6134
@robertcrowther6134 2 жыл бұрын
I am a left hand archer my arrows land to the right consistently should l increase point weight
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 2 жыл бұрын
Yes sir everything is opposite of a right handed shooter with arrow tuning, try adding weight or going down on the arrow spine that should do it for you if not try anchoring into your face a little tighter 👍🏻
@samuelvancleve9678
@samuelvancleve9678 3 жыл бұрын
Love this video, I have that problem! Will this concept/arrow recipe work with a Bear Grizzly.
@jacobwilliams5271
@jacobwilliams5271 8 ай бұрын
I was surprised I needed 300 up front on 500 spine arrows for my 48lb black hunter to tune right. I though the shelf was cut to or past center, its actually about 1/8th before center which makes a huge difference.
@alanbeaulier5783
@alanbeaulier5783 3 жыл бұрын
Raise your brace height up enough and it will pull the first set of arrows to center without going up in point weight.
@greekmaster1001
@greekmaster1001 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't that hurt the performance of the bow?
@mikeparrish8897
@mikeparrish8897 12 күн бұрын
No disrespect to either of you and I’m not saying either of you are wrong in all other cases. But for me, I went up from 225 to 325 on total point weight with absolutely zero change in left/ right impact. I went a half inch both directions with brace height with zero change in left/ right impact. My bare shafts shoot dead nuts straight and group with my fletched shafts. The issue, in my case, is coming from something else. I have went over all aspects of my form and release and feel like I’m way too consistent with my groups for it to be an issue with the fundamentals. So far all I’ve found that actually works is compensating and living with it.
@virgilhancock1910
@virgilhancock1910 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you on tuning the arrow but my Longbow is only 37-9lbs at my 29" draw and I have to get to some targets at 50 yards so heavy arrows drop like lead and would have to aim way up over target to hit center.
@JW-bw8nj
@JW-bw8nj 40 минут бұрын
You'd definitely be much better off shooting 600-700 spine arrows with a normal tip weight for your 37-39 lb bow than to load the front up on a 500 spine arrow to try to make it work. The loaded up 500 spine arrows would sink like crazy at 50 yards!
@Patriot1777
@Patriot1777 2 жыл бұрын
Great show, what is the dia. Of the smaller shaft? Thanks.
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 2 жыл бұрын
The inside diameter is .204 and the outside is around.254 depending on the brand👍🏻
@brandoncoggins2565
@brandoncoggins2565 3 жыл бұрын
This really helped me out brother should appreciate the tips God-bless from Alabama
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 3 жыл бұрын
Man I’m glad it helped thanks for watching!
@rogerhook8002
@rogerhook8002 3 жыл бұрын
Learning a lot. Thanks! What kind of target are you shooting here?
@jukepeke1
@jukepeke1 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video! What bow are you using?😊
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 3 жыл бұрын
This one is a Jeff Lamar bow I’ve got a Thunderchild also
@allthingsarcheryandshootin9380
@allthingsarcheryandshootin9380 3 жыл бұрын
What is the draw weight of the bow and who makes the bow and what is your arrow length and bow length
@rekabilly4186
@rekabilly4186 3 жыл бұрын
Say hello from central java indonesia....thanks for the channel, it adds to our insight... we are lovers of Javanese traditional archery...😀😀😀🤩🤩🤩👍👍👍
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome thank you so much!
@Huntforhabitat
@Huntforhabitat 2 жыл бұрын
How long (including outsert length) were you running those victory trad 550s?
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve still got them and they’re cut 28" Carbon to Carbon and the outserts are about 1/2”
@Ouachita.Mule.School
@Ouachita.Mule.School 2 жыл бұрын
Fixed my PROBLEMMMMM!!!!
@flueckigerthomas66
@flueckigerthomas66 3 жыл бұрын
nice video......but if you stay 5# under your longbows draw pound...same result
@willardreasoner1694
@willardreasoner1694 3 жыл бұрын
I am fairly green... when it comes to archery. I don't hunt. I'm trying to shoot indoor paper @ 20yrs. And hopefully foam 3D targets...when I learn. I don't want to string crawl or use the point of the arrow for a sight pin... or learn gapping. I want to learn instinctive. Arrow tuning:::: Someone had said... longer arrows fly better. It stuck in my head. So I buy the GT 500's for my bows. And I try to tune them full length. Usually 100 or 125g points with the alum. incerts that come with the arrows. So I shoot unfletched...to see weak or stiff.. and adjust that with the point or both point & cutting. And when the bare shaft flies straight... I fletch them up. So... that's how I learned to bare shaft or tune a arrow. I have a 28"-ish draw. 43lb. recurve and 40lb. longbows. So your saying.... pick how long you want the arrows... which I'm thinking shorter arrows should fly faster so that could be good. So 30" would work for me. then... load it up with weight...until it flies...to where your looking.. Right hand shooter.. left is too stiff... right is too weak. Get the right weight out front until it hits where your looking. Now you remove that fletching...arrow is going to be way too weak and hit the bag nock left...for a right handed shooter. The fletching...correcting...is what's making that arrow fly to desired impact.
@baraksinz
@baraksinz 3 жыл бұрын
A little late to the party, but maybe I can help a little. An arrow’s spine can be we weakened by adding more weight to the front. An arrow’s spine can be stiffened by shortening the arrow or removing weight from the front. Basically, you can tune the arrows by adjusting the length of the shaft or by adjusting the weight of the point. Doesn’t really matter how you tune them just as long as you get an arrow that flies well. Not really any plus or minus to having longer or shorter arrows, unless you have a specific weight or length you are trying to meet for some reason.
@tompatterson5459
@tompatterson5459 Жыл бұрын
Love your vids. But man who has access to 50 grain inserts and 150 grain target heads or whatnot? How bout tuning bows with commonly available arrows? Again, love the vids, just saying.
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 Жыл бұрын
3rivers Archery and Lancaster have anything you’d need for traditional setups👍🏻
@pickin4you
@pickin4you Жыл бұрын
I’d like to know how many pounds pull that bow is. I have been of the belief also, that more weight up from dinamically weakens the spine. I have a 50# bow on order and the maker says I cannot tune my 500’s in it. Impossible he says. I can sell all the new shafts I have, but if I don’t have to, I won’t. Will a 50# trad bow shoot 500 spine arrows if there is enough weight up front? Or should I try the victories?
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 Жыл бұрын
It all depends on how long they are, this is a 49@28” bow, I draw about 27.” as with my recurve as well, I shoot 500’s all the time with 250-275 grains up front but my shafts are cut to 28” some 28.5” so if you’re drawing further than that and need them any longer you’ll want to go to a 400 spine or stay around 200-225gr total point weight 👍🏻
@potshot23
@potshot23 3 жыл бұрын
Great advice, but you didn't say what # your shooting, which makes a difference. I shoot 40# longbow at 27", with GT Trad 600, I load the front with 50 gr brass, and 145 gr Broadhead. tuned till my bare shafts touched , nock groove to end of carbon 28 3/4".. Thanks for your instructions..
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks this bow is a 49#@28” 👍🏻
@SuperJayman27
@SuperJayman27 3 жыл бұрын
Your a good guy!……Like the vid.thanks
@chickimac1
@chickimac1 4 ай бұрын
Jeff, does a Lumenok H adapter stiffen the spine .165 ID arrow? Thjs
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 4 ай бұрын
@@chickimac1 yes it sure does!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@chickimac1
@chickimac1 4 ай бұрын
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 Thks Jeff!
@larryadams2184
@larryadams2184 2 жыл бұрын
I shoot a yellowstone d bow at 46# 27"dl it is a center shot bow...need some new carbon arrows....thanks larry adams
@vincenaccarato5833
@vincenaccarato5833 2 ай бұрын
How do you add more point weight without getting the arrows to react to weak
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 2 ай бұрын
@@vincenaccarato5833 if they are grouping left (right handed bow) they are too stiff to begin with usually so weakening the spine will bring them over a little 👍🏻
@TheSjj123
@TheSjj123 Жыл бұрын
Big Jim’s Thunderchild
@Khoa20
@Khoa20 3 жыл бұрын
Can I order some arrow from you
@robbiecox5014
@robbiecox5014 3 жыл бұрын
I’m hitting right of my target 2 inches. I bare shafted them perfect. What is my problem? Seems like the stiffer they are the more right they go. You are saying the opposite or I’m confused. Can you help me figure this out. I never hit left . Always right
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm I had one bow that did that and I really couldn’t weaken the spine anymore so I added a piece of Velcro on my side plate and it worked it’s worth a try 👍🏻
@robbiecox5014
@robbiecox5014 3 жыл бұрын
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 I have a black widow . Shooting 43 lbs at 28. Carbon express 500 arrows with 185 up front. No matter how much weight I shoot up front down to 100 it will consistently shoot right 3 inches. Changed side plate thickness but not change. Cut arrows different length, no change. I’ve been shooting for 29 years and have never had this problem. Usually I bare shaft tune and all is good. Tried 3 different gloves with no change. I’m completely lost . Shot so much last 3 days trying to figure this out till my arm hurts. Fingers are sore. Rotated feathers to check for interference no change. Driving me nuts. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
@rodolfolazo
@rodolfolazo 3 жыл бұрын
@@robbiecox5014 Hi i was having the exact same problem with two shakespeare X-18 Sierra Bows , both shoot 3 to 4 inches left, i movd way down in spine and no effect, so i added 2mm foam plate on the vertical leather rest and it worked way better...now i aim in the vertical line of the bullseye...Hope this help.
@robbiecox5014
@robbiecox5014 3 жыл бұрын
@@rodolfolazo I can get the bare shaft perfect, feather it and it goes 3-4 inches right every single time. I added tip weight fro 145 to 175 and it gets closer to center but I know my shafts are showing weak. Sometimes it will fishtail because of it. Never ever had this problem before.
@ultimatejay
@ultimatejay 2 жыл бұрын
@@robbiecox5014 if your arrows go left your spine is too stiff, if your arrows go right in your case its the opposite, they are too weak. Adding weight to tip weakens your spine and removing weight stiffens your spine. In your case you need to remove tip weight or cut arrows shorter or add weight to nock end of arrow like with an arrow wrap.
@C_Burnz
@C_Burnz 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like I'm watching an infomercial
@chriswoods3188
@chriswoods3188 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't be just as well to use a 600 spine arrows?
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 Жыл бұрын
Yes sir you could go down a spine but sometimes the change is too drastic to maintain the point weight desired for a hunting setup and sometimes it’s perfect lol that’s why sometimes you just have to test every option 😁
@kevinemard5370
@kevinemard5370 Жыл бұрын
What make of bow you have there?
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! This was a custom 58” longbow built by my friend Jeff Lamar👍🏻
@TheSjj123
@TheSjj123 Жыл бұрын
What brand LB are you usinmg there?
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 Жыл бұрын
It’s one of the original designs that my friend Jeff Lamar built which is who got us started building bows and the Passion C2 which we later put into production was built with the same mould with carbon added in the lamination process but even without carbon it was truly a great design, we actually did a Christmas giveaway and drew one winner from the subscribers that year and sent him that bow fully outfitted!
@rogerchapa4234
@rogerchapa4234 Жыл бұрын
If I have a 29 1/2 Draw with a old mountain Mesa II 60 inch at 50 lbs what’s the best arrow to run?
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 Жыл бұрын
Out of a Mesa I’d go with a 400 in gold tip or legacy and run either a 50 or 100gr brass insert, you’ll probably want to cut the arrows around 31.5” and that’ll most likely tune good with either a 125 or 159gr tip you’ll just need to bare shaft one to know exactly what’s best but I think a 409 spine is the ticket for it👍🏻
@rogerchapa4234
@rogerchapa4234 Жыл бұрын
Thank you I like to watch your videos, your pretty awesome when issuing instructions simple and easy to follow.
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 Жыл бұрын
@@rogerchapa4234 thank you so much!
@arnaulpujol8439
@arnaulpujol8439 Жыл бұрын
Uno asi me gusta el arco ese modelo me lo podrian mandarlo a Argentina como se podria mandarmelo
@wadesaunders583
@wadesaunders583 3 жыл бұрын
Curious to know the draw weight.
@willreasoner4384
@willreasoner4384 12 күн бұрын
What ever happened to bear shafting
@mackrogers1007
@mackrogers1007 2 жыл бұрын
Is just the opposite if you shoot left handed?
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 2 жыл бұрын
Yes sir it is 👍🏻
@craigbennell2045
@craigbennell2045 3 жыл бұрын
Got anything to cure shots hitting right for a new trad bow shooter? Seems to be worse with a slightly open stance.
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm usually the arrows are too weak if it’s hitting right other than that just add a little side plate material that’s usually the cure 👍🏻
@craigbennell2045
@craigbennell2045 3 жыл бұрын
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 40# bow, 600 spine @ 31" 100gn points and an d 400's have the scattergun effect, more time looking for arrows than shooting them. That got old real quick.
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 3 жыл бұрын
@@craigbennell2045 hmm, most guys I know shooting a 40# are running at least 200gr with 600 and definitely more with stiffer spines especially if it’s a shallow cut wood bow but if it were me I’d start from scratch with bare shaft tuning some of the ones you’ve got start at 200 and go up let me know what’s happening I’ll sure try to help 👍🏻
@craigbennell2045
@craigbennell2045 3 жыл бұрын
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 I appreciate your help. At work so give me a day or so, I will give you some results. Cheers from Oz🦘
@Boatflipit
@Boatflipit 2 жыл бұрын
What bow is that?
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 2 жыл бұрын
That was a little 56” bow my buddy Jeff Lamar built before he retired 👍🏻
@coondogbob
@coondogbob 2 жыл бұрын
How long is your arrow vs your draw lenght?
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 2 жыл бұрын
My draw length is 27 1/4” my arrow shafts are cut 28 1/4”
@coondogbob
@coondogbob 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir , you explain very well.. I enjoy your content.. would you ever run longer arrows? Or do you always run that length with all your bows with matching spine ? Hopefully that makes sense lol
@johnwilson6707
@johnwilson6707 2 жыл бұрын
cant you just aim to the right and allow for the arrow wanting to shoot left . i do not shoot just saying
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 2 жыл бұрын
I guess you could but the whole intention of shooting instinctive is to hit where you are looking without any compensation.
@randysimonton140
@randysimonton140 3 ай бұрын
Why not get a lighter spine arrow instead of shooting 5000 grains up front
@shawnshepherd6708
@shawnshepherd6708 2 жыл бұрын
Smashed a deer with 300 vpa single bevel . Just absolutely crushed to at 12 yrds heats shot went 20 and fell over done.
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 2 жыл бұрын
That’s what I’m talking about!😝👍🏻
@shawnshepherd6708
@shawnshepherd6708 2 жыл бұрын
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 was my first recurve deer this year Practice all summer shooting got my groups nice and tight . Made myself shoot though a 6 to 8 inch gap in front of kill shot 5 yrds in front of target seemed to help me get my stuff together 😀👍
@vanislandsteve
@vanislandsteve Жыл бұрын
👍🏻🇨🇦
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍🏻
@ericbaumgartner5742
@ericbaumgartner5742 2 ай бұрын
Or , never buy a longbow that isnt cut past center
@DavidAnderson-so2ri
@DavidAnderson-so2ri 6 ай бұрын
First of all, can you stop calling your bow a longbow - it isn't. You are using a traditional barebow; has a recurve element which longbows do not have. Also, I understand adding weight to the shaft will weaken it but if you cut your shafts to the correct bow weight to start with, you won't have that issue.
@robertlipsey6056
@robertlipsey6056 2 ай бұрын
Now here folks we have a know it all.
@DavidAnderson-so2ri
@DavidAnderson-so2ri 2 ай бұрын
@@robertlipsey6056 Wouldn't say a "know it all", just know enough and quite experienced longbow archer and fletcher.
@robertlipsey6056
@robertlipsey6056 2 ай бұрын
🙄
@runebows6057
@runebows6057 2 жыл бұрын
bla bla bla bareshaft, copypasta in each video. What no body mentions is the arrow nock position relative to pupil of eye!
@WV591
@WV591 3 жыл бұрын
the real challenge is to be able to shoot any arrow with any bow. None of this turning nonsense.
@bobdrawbaugh4207
@bobdrawbaugh4207 3 жыл бұрын
Well, you can shoot any arrow out of any bow with out all this tuning nonsense. But once you get to stiff or to weak they’re going to come out of you bow sideways. That’s the reason people miss left or right. If you want to hit what your looking at. You had better take Jeff’s advice and tune the arrows.
@earlfultz8603
@earlfultz8603 3 ай бұрын
How about some 600 spine arrows
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 3 ай бұрын
@@earlfultz8603 you can go down a spine and get the same effect 👍🏻
@earlfultz8603
@earlfultz8603 3 ай бұрын
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 absolutely you can shoot 400 if you want to put a brick on the front
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