How I Set Up Lightweight Traditional Hunting Bows! 38# Recurve/ Arrows & Broadheads!

[@hrburrell7587]

I shot a 60 pound compound as a kid and after years of not shooting a bow at all i recently bought a 40# longbow and while i can draw and hold for 10 or 15 seconds i felt the tension on my fingers was a little too much for a smooth release and a good consistent anchor so to make it easier on myself to shoot traditional and not develop any bad habits i swapped it out for a 35 pounder which will probably be closer to 38 with my draw length of around 29 plus inches. I plan on shooting this for a year or so and maybe moving up to a 40 which will probably be the heaviest I will ever go even for hunting.

[@Tradman47]

Glad to see your still making videos 😊I missed ya jeff God Bless my friend

[@alfredpayne1762]

40# is just what i need, old age has hit, need lighter bow thanks for sharing

[@budcat2]

Ok. I dove into this addiction with Jeff. All my questions and thoughts on setting up a bow and arrow build. I used the arrows you mentioned. Ordered the 62 inch Hermit X10 @ 35Lbs to accommodate my 31 1/2 inch draw. 250 grain up front. Jeff I got those arrows flying nice bare shaft. My problem is hitting knocks. Two arrows in arrow one after the other. Sheesh. All your fault! 😊

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

@@budcat2 It is what it is brother 🤣😁👍🏻

[@dstatty3937]

I just picked up the Sitkin from 3 rivers after seeing your review and man oh man is it ever a nice shooter! Thanks Jeff!

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

@@dstatty3937 awesome!

[@StickHippieOutdoors]

38# is plenty, I shot a big Kentucky buck with a 38# Bear takedown a couple years ago, just gotta have a reasonably heavy arrow that is tuned good. Great video

[@jowhi9296]

Another amazing video Jeff! You added a new factor into this one... Making the arrow as heavy as needed until your bow is quiet and nothing is wasted. Whats easiest way to do that? Considering length of arrow, Tip weight and all are a consideration in arrow selection and performance

[@budcat2]

Boy this landed in my lap! Hermit x10 32” with 35 lb limbs. My 31 inch draw puts me there!

[@johnrudy9404]

Intresting stuff, Jeff. Thanks.

[@jeffreymelber9582]

I did it Thursday this week. Killed a big doe with my hybrid longbow. My bow is 46# @ 28” and I draw 29”. I’m shooting Easton Traditional arrows, Zwickey Eskimos. My shot away on the ground. About 17 yards. Shot was a little high. Arrow went in to fletch and broke off. I didn’t butcher yet but it looks like I may have penetrated the shoulder blade. I’ll update after processing mid week next week. I’ve been addicted to these videos and did all the tuning. My setup shoots great. My arrow is 540 grains and chronographed at 175-180fps I’m super excited to make it happen. This is the first critter I ever shot at with my longbow Thanks for all the help.

[@jeffreymelber9582]

My IPad was lagging. Some more info. Shot went in between 5th and 6th rib. Exited between 10 and 11. About 3-4” below spine. Both lungs looked bad. Not much blood in first 10 yards. Then opened up real good. Was dead in another 10 yards. Lived about as long as it took me to type this. Super thick overgrown area that was forested I don’t know when. The area is very high stem count with thorns everywhere. Parts of it you can’t even stick your arm in it. But you go in after your deer. I’m super excited to do this with a longbow.

[@jeffreymelber9582]

Butchered it yesterday. Shot was through the shoulder blade. Not at the rib and it went through the middle of the wider side.

[@bradlauber9097]

That's a great great setup !!! 70 grains over in the arrow to the bows weight is what I like !!!?

[@aranha9365]

That bow is beautiful!

[@chuckratliff2474]

Another awesome video thanks brother

[@matthewmeckes1744]

Good video arrows bigger than what kind of bow you shoot loved it hunting is way different than 3D

[@bc7200]

Hello Jeff, Great video as always! As you jave already mentioned conection between DL and BH, could you please make video about that? There Is not much about it to find

[@scottydakine]

What quiver is used here? Starting a journey into this discipline. Great content here and will use this from here on it.

[@CaptLRay]

Thank you for all your videos. You explain things very well. However, for someone just starting out I have chosen the Galaxy Sage Elite With a 25lb draw at 28 inches. This was recommended to help perfect form. I plan to set it up according to one of your videos I recently watched. My question is do you have any experience with bows this light so that you might make an arrow recommendation? I’m considering the Gold Tip Warrior with a 500 spine. Thank you

[@mikel3426]

Simmons Rock!!

[@wesstapp6895]

Do you make bows to sell? If so, how do I get one like the one in this video? It’s beautiful!

[@chief1193]

Can you do a 43# hybrid long bow?

[@gregcook5811]

Any suggestions for getting a bow setup around central Alabama?

[@tristancutshall6445]

Just got my first recurve. Coming from compound. Is there a reason you use a heavy head like 200 gr compared to using 100 gr heads with the 100gr inserts and the insert screw in weight system to achieve your weight?

[@deerhearse4895]

So you like this over a 3 blade broadhead? Thought I saw a video where you preferred 3blade over 2

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

@@deerhearse4895 I certainly do but only with bows over 40# usually 45# , the two blades just penetrate great with really light weight setups.

[@braedenfluet9297]

Hey man on a different topic from another ep from a year ago. I cant make my mind up on geting the toparcher 60 inch take down or the black hunter. You have shot both and i dont know if the bambo or the maple is a better choice. Also im 6.2 and have been shooting a compound bow that has a 30 inch draw length. You think that would still fly with a tred or will it mess up my achor point. Any advice is greatly appreciated 👍

[@timothycoulter2848]

Thanks always enjoyable. Trying to find the right weight arrow would you try 20 grain encrements there is just so much time in a day 😅

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

@@timothycoulter2848 honestly even 25 grains is unnoticeable for me, I jump 50 at a time lol

[@mitchsowers4190]

⁠​⁠ If I shoot a 55# bow at 28” draw with a 400 spine, is a 125 grain broadhead heavy enough? I’ve noticed with my practice tips, the arrow flies straight, but with the broadhead of the same weight, the butt of the arrow kicks out to the left when I shoot. I’m about to order new arrows, and I’d also like to know what weight insert I should get. Thank you for your wisdom!

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

@@mitchsowers4190 honestly it sounds a little stiff with just 125 up front, I’d at least try adding a little insert weight to see for sure but I’m about to do a new video on the Obsidian 3K arrows from 3 Rivers and they’re absolutely awesome and so are the regular obsidian I love them!

[@williamsturgeon2902]

Will a 550 grain wood arrow with a 125 grain Broadhead have the same penetration as 550 grain light arrow with say 250 grain weighted Broadhead with more F.O.C. Out of the same bow. Thanks

[@andergarmendialopez1324]

Where can I find that bow. Is very beautifull. I like it.

[@mikekupetsky6879]

All of my bows that I hunt with are 38 to 45 lb the least amount of Arrow weight that I will shoot at a whitetail deer is 500 grams normally 520 to 550 grains

[@timbo749]

Hi Jeff, I'm polling a few people knowledgeable in bowhunting, I'm shooting a 46# bow with a 530 gr. arrow, this would not only be my first trad kill but also first public land deer and i am looking for a broadhead that will be most effective in making sure i find my deer. I have Simmons Tree sharks, Swamp sharks and have Ace standards, What im striving for is high pass thru potential and lots of blood, which would you recommend?, I am currently hunting with GT Warrior 500 with lumenok , 100gr. brass insert and 190 gr. Swamp shark, but a few people recommended the Ace, but since we cannot guarantee perfect shot placement ,I'm looking for a head that will devastate a deer.

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

@@timbo749 well the most devastating heads I’ve used is the Simmons and a 3-1 design 3 blade razor sharp in like a 200 grain VPA or Woodsman Elite they’re very good for both!

[@timbo749]

@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 thanks for getting back to me, i already invested in these heads i mentioned, I am just wondering if at 46# I have enough juice for the Tree shark?

[@teddiie29l21]

a bit off but needed : 28 1/2” draw length at 60# recurve w 300 grains tip + insert, is a 300 spine too much?

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

@@teddiie29l21 depends on length but honestly yes, I would think a 340 spine max

[@teddiie29l21]

thx man, i’ll stick with my 340 ones. and i have another question for some thicker skin/larger game in the future, same weight same everything do you think that the 340 is still covering em all? or it’s the time to go stiffer…? for the 300gr point. i can go w 340 as usual but its a too little snub one with my tune so i now want em to be longer too..

[@marvinyoder-ev7df]

Do you use the three sided jewel stick to sharpen 3 blade broadhead or do you have a different method?

[@elitearchery]

Can u get bare shafts in dragon 9 500 spine

[@randallflores-qr8cs]

I'm new to traditional archery (still n research phase) what would be the rough cost of a similar set up to the one you're using in this video?

[@jurelorencic9404]

Hello Jeff. I have a question about samick sage longbow 68". What kind of tiller does it have? Is it ok for three under shooting? Have a nice day

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

@@jurelorencic9404 it certainly should be yes!

[@yournotthatguypal9749]

Hey brother I need some advice I’m wanting to get the Oberon longbow you recently reviewed I currently have a bodnik slick stick 58” 55# at 28” I want a smoother draw I’m around 29.5 draw and to me the slick stick stacks really bad and I’m not getting the performance I’d expect what do you recommend for poundege and arrow set up on a Oberon set up for me please and thank you

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

@@yournotthatguypal9749 yes sir the Oberon longbow is really smooth and do have an awesome grip, I would think you’d be happy with around a 50# and possibly grab a bare shaft test kit in whichever arrow you like to play with and find out exactly what flies best at your draw and point weight preference because they’re cut to center usually tuning with a slightly weaker spine than some others but amazing bows for the money!

[@johnbrink7430]

With that much weight up front it must sink like a rock after 15 yards, right? Not too big a deal if we keep the shots with8n 15yds but I cant see how it would fly flat past that yardage

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

@@johnbrink7430 absolutely not with this bow but it’s partially because the total arrow weight isn’t that heavy so it shoots really flat at least out to 25 yards or more 👍🏻

[@ethanmiller3381]

Are your arrows full length ? Or do you cut them down ?

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

@@ethanmiller3381 mine are cut to 1 1/2” longer than I need

[@ArcheryGuy2]

Cool

[@aaronpiha]

What is the determining factor to best adjust brace height for best performance. I have a 26 inch draw at 43 pounds

[@cardonaman]

That depends entirely on the bow you're using. Start with the factory recommend height . and go from there. Bareshaft paper tuning will be your best bet

[@joshcarney9067]

Hows your season going? Their is a vapor in indiana thats tagged one so far.

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

@@joshcarney9067 haven’t even got to go yet 🥲

[@joshcarney9067]

@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 you might ought to get up here sometime and hunt.....

[@HolisticHealthDave]

How can we get one of those custom strings ?

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

@@HolisticHealthDave The TTT Strings Facebook page 👍🏻

[@BillieBoyd-ng2qv]

Good Intel but what spine?

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

@@BillieBoyd-ng2qv normally a 600 spine but this bow is cut past center and it tuned great with a 500 spine 👍🏻

[@noahberg7282]

Hey Jeff, or anybody else reading. I could really use some help. I’m getting pretty irrational flight out of my arrows, they’re not going near where I’m aiming. They’re 250 spine Easton hunters with Simmons Safari broad heads. The bow is a 55lb keshes @28. My draw is about 29.5”. The arrows seem to be flying left and high. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

[@davida.4933]

You must learn how to bare shaft tune. Heaps of YT videos.

[@noahberg7282]

I’m just not sure what I could do at this point to tune the arrows differently.

[@7antsknownnothin]

Arrow spine might be too stiff

[@noahberg7282]

That’s possible. Can you bare shaft tune with broad heads or do you have to use field tips?

[@johnmatthews1313]

What size spine are you using for that setup?

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

@@johnmatthews1313 500’s with this bow.

[@johnmatthews1313]

Thank ya sir

[@musthavefaith8142]

I would love to shoot carbons out of my recurve. It's the strangest thing, but I can only get wood arrows to shoot out of it. I've spent hundreds on carbon shafts and making arrows with no success. I finally gave up.

[@davida.4933]

Do you know how to bare shaft tune?

[@musthavefaith8142]

@davida.4933 I've tried but with little success

[@greeneyesfromohio4103]

As a proud American I refuse to take my first ever deer with a Chinese made bow. Besides Bear Archery bows what other American made bow companies are their that make traditional bows? I like the Bear bows but I want to make sure I’m not overlooking other options. My limit is $500.

[@ncsaddlehunter77]

I was blessed to get my first traditional harvest with my Bear Montana. For what it is worth, I absolutely love that bow.

[@greeneyesfromohio4103]

@@ncsaddlehunter77 - nice, what was draw weight?

[@doughosig6798]

go on line & order a catalog from "#3-Rivers Archery" your budget problems are now solved....good people by the way

[@UncleDanBand64]

I shoot light arrows. Speed is your friend on jumpy deer in Texas. Almost always I get total pass thru on Deer and Hogs.

[@budcat2]

Uncut 32” Traditional gold tip. 250 up front. Need to cut off an inch. Too heavy.

[@musthavefaith8142]

Heavy arrows are perfect for Traditional bowhunting ranges. You shouldn't be taking shots over 20 yards anyway.

[@lonniehobson7724]

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[@davida.4933]

@@lonniehobson7724 Very few trad bowhunters can consistently shoot tight groups >20 yds and pls. note in videos the lens usually makes 15 yd shots look like 30 yd shots. And if you really know how to hunt you will get plenty of close shots and will PREFER close shots not just for the higher certainty but for the increased hunt enjoyment.

[@mknight6556]

​@@davida.4933 I got my first buck ever on November 6th! Shot him with my #43 bear Kodiak hunter. Cedar arrow and a zwickey eskimo broad head. I was standing in front of a giant oak tree and the buck walked right by me at last light 7 yards away! He looked a lot smaller when I shot him but upon walking up on him, I freaked out! I think he'll score 140, 150s! He has great symmetry with some nasty brow times that blade out and swing backwards. I am so stoked. First buck ever, mono e mono on the ground with my stickbow.

[@matthewy8923]

With this setup, when I shoot a brown bear face to face, can the arrow penetrate the brown bear's forehead bone? Thank you.

[@davida.4933]

We'll of course so no need to worry at all.

[@matthewy8923]

@davida.4933 No, a 38#bow/arrow can NOT penetrate the skull of a Grizzly Bear. Therefore, if you encounter a Grizzly Bear face to face on ground, you will be killed by the Grizzly Bear. Sure you can carry a gun to protect yourself. But if you do, you are not a real bow hunter because you are protected by a gun. Also, you can hide on the tree-stands in the tree, but if you do so, to bear, you are just an dishonourable sneak attacher, not a winner. A REAL BOW HUNTER, when he encounter a Grizzly Bear, he should be able to kill the Grizzly Bear face to face on the ground with his BOW, NOT the GUN.