Instructors Are Getting Worse

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Ashley Neal

Ashley Neal

2 жыл бұрын

I'm sure I'm not going to gain extra friends from these Instructors with this upload. Needs to be done though!
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@margaretnicol3423
@margaretnicol3423 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the driving instructor at 5:04 was going for a wee against the fence. 🤣
@robloxfan4271
@robloxfan4271 2 жыл бұрын
Same 😂😂
@bellerophonchallen8861
@bellerophonchallen8861 2 жыл бұрын
haha me too.
@rsmith8875
@rsmith8875 2 жыл бұрын
Ah good - at least I wasn't the only one who had that thought.
@RichO1701e
@RichO1701e 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@cplcabs
@cplcabs 2 жыл бұрын
Me too
@MrWrob32
@MrWrob32 2 жыл бұрын
Love the fact that Ashley doesn't give a damn who he upsets, because it simply boils down to one thing - road safety. Keep up the great work.
@dennislawless3563
@dennislawless3563 Жыл бұрын
@MIND hardly u mong
@chrisburn7178
@chrisburn7178 Жыл бұрын
@MIND Well yeah, but KZbin views = education. As cynical as we can allow ourselves to be, it's hard to watch drivers behaving like idiots with Ashley's withering commentary and then go and do exactly the same thing yourself unless you're stratospherically un-self-aware or really really don't give a crap about anyone else. And those two camps are lost to saving anyway.
@pudseybear3770
@pudseybear3770 2 жыл бұрын
If they’re like this with roof boxes on imagine how bad they are without them…
@cmac1999
@cmac1999 2 жыл бұрын
Haskell is a great language!
@rufusgreenleaf2466
@rufusgreenleaf2466 2 жыл бұрын
Mine drove like a rally driver back to my town when i passed and he took the roof box off and put it in the boot. Speeding, tailgating the lot. Without the roof box it just looked like a normal Fiesta as he was a private instructor.
@andyrolland8693
@andyrolland8693 2 жыл бұрын
There's an instructor local to us who cuts corners, doesn't indicate, uses her phone and generally behaves like a d**k ... I'm always amazed at the stupid things people do when driving vehicles with their name and phone number plastered all over them 🤦‍♂️
@margaretnicol3423
@margaretnicol3423 2 жыл бұрын
Probably because no-one ever reports them!
@iallso1
@iallso1 2 жыл бұрын
I have known of people who have lost their jobs following abusing or threatening my colleagues from marked work vehicles, once their company has been told of their actions.
@kal9001
@kal9001 2 жыл бұрын
She likely is a Karen. Won't listen to any form of criticism "because I'm an instructor, obviously I know more than anyone" and justifies any level of garbage behaviour with that.
@CL4SSiCS
@CL4SSiCS 2 жыл бұрын
You should report it to the company
@dlevi67
@dlevi67 2 жыл бұрын
Cressida? That her?
@manu-tonyo9654
@manu-tonyo9654 2 жыл бұрын
Every rule broken or ignored by an instructor is the start of a snowball effect within the attitude of the learner and anyone else that observes it. Good on you Ashley.
@mrblablablabla
@mrblablablabla 2 жыл бұрын
After I just got my licence I was cut off on a highway by a single person in a clearly speeding driving school vehicle as they tried to make an off ramp. I did look them up online and left them a bad review, describing what had happened. Maybe that seems a bit harsh, but I do hold road safety in high regard and I do believe driving instructors should set a good example.
@gravemind6536
@gravemind6536 2 жыл бұрын
Any advanced driver should be driving to a higher standard for sure. If they aren't they are disrespecting their qualifications they earn't to hold that poisition.
@Daye04
@Daye04 2 жыл бұрын
Luckily, Ashley Neal is a driving instructor instructor! So he can fix this!
@Flaming1100
@Flaming1100 2 жыл бұрын
But who will instruct the driving instructor instructor instructor?!
@DracoRemixer
@DracoRemixer 2 жыл бұрын
@@Flaming1100 Of course it's the driving instructor instructor instructor instructors, duh...
@lauramoss2863
@lauramoss2863 2 жыл бұрын
Haha ashley neal did you make this video to drum up some business? 🤔😁
@andrewnorris5415
@andrewnorris5415 2 жыл бұрын
Meta-analysis at its finest.
@sanchoodell6789
@sanchoodell6789 2 жыл бұрын
@@DracoRemixer I'll echo that!
@margaretnicol3423
@margaretnicol3423 2 жыл бұрын
Oh good lord! I'm going insane. When you were sitting in your car at 8:03 it rained heavier. I went to close my window to stop the rain coming in!!! Yes - it's a bright, dry, sunny day. :-D
@ashley_neal
@ashley_neal 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing!
@margaretnicol3423
@margaretnicol3423 2 жыл бұрын
@@ashley_neal I guess it shows how immersed I am in your videos. :-)
@sassyboofle6983
@sassyboofle6983 2 жыл бұрын
Yes ! You lit a fuse now watch it go . You did a brilliant thing here , yes we ALL need to be held accountable. Have seen professional instructors while on lesson using mobiles too , this is a mess , hot mess . If you don’t want your mum / policeman to see your driving then don’t do it . There is always a camera somewhere .👍📸
@weevilinabox
@weevilinabox 2 жыл бұрын
There's an instructor who keeps parking on double yellows outside our office for cigarette breaks. The office is on a short loop of road on a science park, which means he's effectively parked on a left-hand bend with about 30 m visibility for anyone needing to pass him. As well as the double yellow lines, there are signs at the loop entrance which read, "Strictly no parking on this loop road". Worse, he always has a student with him. What kind of example is this setting?
@HSFrox
@HSFrox 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps you could go have polite friendly words with them about the situation, and see what they say about their choices. If the situation doesn't change I would name and shame them on a local Facebook news page with pictures, and even post the pictures on their Facebook company page. They will soon get the idea 😈👿
@Shylo2017
@Shylo2017 2 жыл бұрын
All for a cigarette that will eventually kill them... disgraceful.
@mdcollins1984
@mdcollins1984 2 жыл бұрын
This probably contravenes the smoking in a work vehicle rules as well.
@weevilinabox
@weevilinabox 2 жыл бұрын
@@mdcollins1984 My apologies. I should have made it clear that both the instructor and pupil vacate the car for his smoke break.
@ZJS0113
@ZJS0113 2 жыл бұрын
It's business park. No one cares 😂
@danielcrafter9349
@danielcrafter9349 Жыл бұрын
I remember a driving lesson once where my instructor *fell asleep* during thr lesson He woke up after a couple minutes to tell me to do a turn-in-the-road - he told me what to do, put his sunglasses on, and fell asleep again! I was boxed in by 2 cars, no idea what to do. Decided to try to get home as quick as - luckily I was only a couple minutes away. Once I got home and parked, I woke him up and told him I wasn't paying him. He said fine, fell asleep again and stayed there for 2 hours. I got a debt collection letter a couple days later for an unpaid lesson!
@pauliboo2
@pauliboo2 2 жыл бұрын
I spotted a driving instructor looking at her phone at traffic lights in Warrington. I spoke to her as her passenger window was down, and she said it was perfectly legal as she was stopped. Her phone was in her hands. I made the point that she was still in control of her vehicle and it was illegal unless she was parked with the engine off. I named and shamed her on her Facebook page, because she should know the law.
@ConsumerWatchdogUK
@ConsumerWatchdogUK 2 жыл бұрын
Blasphemy, sodomy and witchcraft all use to be illegal and "punishable" by death. Something being illegal isn't an accurate gauge of what is safe or reasonable, it's just a warning that strangers may use it as an excuse for violence.
@kenbrown2808
@kenbrown2808 2 жыл бұрын
I know in the states, the rule is much more relaxed than in the UK, and we still specifically say waiting for a traffic light doesn't count as stopped.
@rufusgreenleaf2466
@rufusgreenleaf2466 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, you say the engine switched off but if you are parked at the side of the road or a carpark and the car is secured. I can't see it being a problem if the engine is still on, while in traffic it doesn't matter though whether the car is secured it's then bad because you are needing to observe ready to control the car at anytime.
@thomascarroll9556
@thomascarroll9556 2 жыл бұрын
@@rufusgreenleaf2466 “I can’t see it as a problem” but it’s not up to you, don’t take the chance switch off.
@rufusgreenleaf2466
@rufusgreenleaf2466 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomascarroll9556 When i'm parked in a secure carpark or driveway with my engine on to warm the car up and i'm setting the SatNav up or sending a quick message. If the car is secured in neutral and handbrake on with my feet on the floor away from the pedals. It isn't a problem, the car isn't going anywhere with no rush to go anywhere at that minute. If it was the same situation but in traffic, then it would be a problem as you are basically live on the road and may need to adjust, manoeuvre or react. If the engine doesn't need to be on when parked then yes i'd keep it or turn it off until last minute. Pulling into a carpark and parking, or parking at the side of the road in a safe legal place. To then text someone you are here to pick them up. As long as the car is secure it's ok, turning it off then back on again wastes more fuel. Especially older cars.
@fireflyrobert
@fireflyrobert 2 жыл бұрын
The second clip reminded me of an adage I always followed when teaching to fly. Never let the student put the aeroplane into a situation where you (as instructor) don't have enough time to take control and salvage the situation!
@lauramoss2863
@lauramoss2863 2 жыл бұрын
Im surprised more people aren't driving constantly as if on test. I was saying to my husband the other day, I'm frequently aware on some level of how many people have dashcams and trying to avoid ending up with my head in the youtube stocks getting rotten fruit pelted at me in the comments 🤣
@kal9001
@kal9001 2 жыл бұрын
You do not want everyone driving like they are on test all the time, it would be a nightmare. "Test standard" is a way of driving designed for new drivers to demonstrate they can be responsible, observant, etc. It is expected after your test you will GET BETTER at driving. In particular, decision making should be quicker and more fluid, reactions and controls smoother. Always indicating regardless of need - in an advanced course you will be told to only indicate if it's actually going to be useful to other drivers. This requires extra processing, experience and awareness a student driver isn't expected to have yet. Always driving in the middle of the lane - in an advanced course you're expected to use all your lane as needed to assist with visibility, observation, and traffic flow. Defensive driving - very little expectation in regular lessons or the test to display defensive driving techniques. Forward planning - Also very little expectation in regular lessons and the test to display advanced planning. I get what you're trying to say though... driving standards are appalling. The lack of situational awareness and planning is shocking. However a 'test standard' won't help that much as those are skills that are polished up in advanced courses. The major issue is people are so damn opinionated these days they are always in the right, even when they are driving like an ass, and won't have the right attitude to learn and develop their skill, and will simply argue the good ol' "I've never had an accident" - funny how so many dickweed drivers never have accidents, but manage to leave devastation in their wake!
@fyremoon
@fyremoon 2 жыл бұрын
When we learn to drive we are conscious of everything new in the car, everything we are in a learning mode, a bit like a sponge. As we learn to drive, those absorbed experiences are honed so we can actually handle the car the correct way, and then driving becomes an unconscious experience. We then have to do something new, we have to play act the experience to the examiner to "show them" we are competent to drive and recall facts of driving to them. Once we passed, we slip back into unconscious driving and even into highway hypnosis, but those bad habits we picked up from driving are invisible to us. Add the fact that mobile phones have become an unconscious distraction just as much as the sat nav.
@jakerockznoodles
@jakerockznoodles 2 жыл бұрын
@@kal9001 I don't think they mean driving to "test standard", more that people should perhaps drive like they're always being observed and judged on their driving, because these days they commonly _are_ . From my experience, people don't tend to get better after they pass, though. They tend to get a lot worse, and the worst part is that they often *think* they're better. They'll tend conflate complacency with confidence, demonstrate appalling levels of planning and see hazard perception/response as altogether unnecessary, expecting that hazards should just jump out of their way if they're "in the right". People get more skilled at driving after they pass, but often don't become better drivers.
@sleekweasel
@sleekweasel 2 жыл бұрын
I wish the police would take dashcam footage seriously, prosecuting or cautioning drivers who are clearly driving badly. It would make it much easier to 'submit' to diffuse the situation if you could be confident that a tailgater/undertaker/lights jumper would be caught later, and the danger of being caught would hopefully make people think twice in case they were caught.
@kal9001
@kal9001 2 жыл бұрын
@@jakerockznoodles You ever been at work and a MUCH higher up manager you rarely, if ever, see comes hovering around. They make some comment about why you're doing this or doing that, this isn't 'by the book' then start to micromanage and turn the whole office in a shitshow... That is basically the scenario we're looking at here. Where every Tom Dick or Harry can have their power moment by pointing out some technicality and throwing their opinion about how 'terrorised' by traffic they are, despite no evidence that the person they just filmed is anything to do with the boy racers at 1am... THAT is a scary future. But it's one social media has already brought to many other aspects of our lives. You can't simply have an opinion online now without being ranted at by 40 folk. So why not apply the same to driving... eeek
@syberracer2984
@syberracer2984 2 жыл бұрын
Concerning the first clip, I am a bus driver and had a similar thing happen to me. Came across a driving insyructor parked in a bus stop, with a pupil in the car. I addressed him about it and said it's "his way of teaching". Nowhere near a good enough excuse. The road he was on is not wide enough for two cars to pass when cars are parked in front of the houses. Thankfully, there was space behind him, but what if there wasn't? He would've forced me to stop in the middle of the road and block traffic. This angers me to no end that people don't care about us bus drivers and go ahead and park wherever the damn well please, especially in bus stops.
@stuc6787
@stuc6787 2 жыл бұрын
Good to see this, Ashley, and I can see that it has caused a few ruffled feathers. Good. It's frustrating when you work hard to uphold standards and colleagues or those in the same position as you don't share those ideals. I hope this doesn't lead to some awkward moments at the test centre 😂
@kieranbeecroft8414
@kieranbeecroft8414 Жыл бұрын
I've only just seen this one Ashley, and I am glad you are calling out your own profession. To me, it shows *your* moral fibre, and tells me your instructors will be held to those high standards which in turn says your students should be of higher calibre. If we all did this, in professional and personal life, things could be so much better! Thank you!
@driving_all_over
@driving_all_over 2 жыл бұрын
Good for you on the last one Ash. I can't believe they complained about it!
@MerlinKernow75
@MerlinKernow75 2 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine being that driving instructor getting caught by Ashley on your phone.
@kal9001
@kal9001 2 жыл бұрын
Frankly sat at a set of lights in a car not moving... what's the problem? It's not illegal to sit and write in a notebook while sat at traffic lights is it? Is it illegal to close my eyes for a few seconds to relieve a head ache? The old argument about "well someone could be stood in front of the car and you didn't see them"... which implies the person will set off, not having looked at all, which is just stupid. So long as the correct checks are done prior to moving off then it doesn't really matter what else happened while you were stopped does it?
@george-pi5mo
@george-pi5mo 2 жыл бұрын
@@kal9001 If you're not sure why looking at your phone whilst stopped at traffic lights is a dangerous thing to do then please, for the love of God, send your licence back to the DVLA.
@feznetwork
@feznetwork 2 жыл бұрын
@@kal9001 Yes, all those aforementioned examples can easily be classed as driving without due care and attention.
@kal9001
@kal9001 2 жыл бұрын
​@@george-pi5mo Why? Will it explode? You have not addressed the actual point. While not moving at all, so long as I do all the prerequisite checks before moving off, how it is it any more dangerous to look at my phone, than it is to day dream while staring at an aeroplane flying over?
@kal9001
@kal9001 2 жыл бұрын
@@feznetwork They can be... if you were to move off and cause some kind of issue, or you obstruct traffic. I can't imagine 'contemplating how funny the car in fronts number plant could be if you added an extra letter' as a grounds for summons. And yet... mobile phones are a specifically named offence, cyclists are militant about it, police are super keen. But where is the evidence that while completely stationary, it's any more dangerous than any one of the thousand things anyone does at the lights? I'll repeat that so long as you do the normal checks before moving off. it does not matter if you were picking your nose while analysing the stain on the roof fabric, chugging a bottle of water, resting a headache, checking a map, or tapping your phone 5 times to start a call on speaker.
@SiRhodesDriverTraining
@SiRhodesDriverTraining 2 жыл бұрын
6:10 I had a similar issue a few years ago. A picture of me picking a learner up appeared on a FB page called “ parking like a p***k “ as I was parked on a single yellow line but it was outside of its operating times. Luckily, my mate spotted it and I was able to put facts over and it was taken down with an apology. Everyone makes mistakes Ash but, some of these are blatant.
@ashley_neal
@ashley_neal 2 жыл бұрын
I had the same issue a number of years back with the same page. They took a still picture of one of my instructors that appeared they were parked on school zig-zags, but they were moving off after being parked behind them. It was soon removed when I told the posting page about the video that I had of him laughing as he took the picture. I also private messaged him and told him I had his name, full address and his employers details.
@rufusgreenleaf2466
@rufusgreenleaf2466 2 жыл бұрын
The problem is sometimes taking it down doesn't stop the blind opinions of arrogant people. Some people read the accusation but never the correction, unfortunately this can affect business, rumours spread faster than truth because it's more entertaining. I hope this didn't happen to you and you still get good business.
@SiRhodesDriverTraining
@SiRhodesDriverTraining 2 жыл бұрын
@@rufusgreenleaf2466 I agree, mud sticks. Luckily, everyone took it as it was and a lot commented that they should get their Facts right before posting.
@rufusgreenleaf2466
@rufusgreenleaf2466 2 жыл бұрын
@@SiRhodesDriverTraining Good good, people do sometimes believe the wrong thing but it's understanding ignorance that counts for a lot in this world.
@unsafevelocities5687
@unsafevelocities5687 2 жыл бұрын
3:41 Thanks for mentioning cyclists turning right, Ashley. As a cyclist, turning right at a T-junction is still the most scary thing when I'm out riding. I can't recall seeing anybody talk about this, but standing in the middle exactly where cars tend to cut the corner is fairly nerve-racking. I'm relieved when I can pull OUT into traffic! lol
@ynotnilknarf39
@ynotnilknarf39 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm, I've only ever seen a couple on video where a cyclist was taken out, in 38 years of road riding I've never had that situation other than some careless driving and they aborted the turn but nothing insanely close. the worst bit for me is on higher speed roads where it twists and turns and doesn't have good sight lines, drivers just cane it and don't gove a shit about what's round a bend or close pass when it's just insanely dangerous to do so.
@unsafevelocities5687
@unsafevelocities5687 2 жыл бұрын
@@ynotnilknarf39 Well, that's encouraging at least. To be fair, I haven't done any high-speed, two-lane riding on rural roads and I wouldn't be surprised if that's worse. I also rarely play with big trucks as I avoid main routes through the city.
@ColinSmith2001
@ColinSmith2001 2 жыл бұрын
@@ynotnilknarf39 The turn into my road is a right turn off a 60mph A road just round a bend with restricted sightlines! My confidence if I end up sitting stationary on the bike out at the centreline waiting for a gap in oncoming traffic is not high......
@mikepembo8297
@mikepembo8297 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The amount of times cars turning in from the left cut the T on the corner as I approach, to join the main road to the right. Almost lost the front wheel several times
@khalidacosta7133
@khalidacosta7133 2 жыл бұрын
Forget people cutting the corners, when out cycling and turning right at a T junction, while positioned to the right, I'll get drivers who will cross the line in the hope of overtaking me...while behind me!
@Dannysdrivingschool
@Dannysdrivingschool 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad you trained me up Ash to be an instructor, one thing you always went on about was professionalism and trying to do the right things and iv always tried to stick to that , phone away in the glove box full attention and be ready at all times no corners cut 🙌🏻 so glad I didn’t make the video although if I ever do it will be something to learn from
@Lee.Willcox
@Lee.Willcox 2 жыл бұрын
I wait at large roundabouts on Portsea Island Portsmouth and I see countless student drivers with their instructors NEVER using indicators. I see instructors driver their own driving instructor vehicles at large roundabouts not using indicators. So I wait and I wait and I wait. Why do I have indicators that no one else uses only to spend £50 for one when they fail or burn out ? Why am I wasting my money ? No other bugger uses them.
@FROOB202
@FROOB202 2 жыл бұрын
Incompetent, corrupt or uncaring people are always mad when their aforementioned issues are highlighted. Keep highlighting.
@laszloplook9599
@laszloplook9599 2 жыл бұрын
Chris Kelly, driving instructor, was reading a text in his car in a public place where anyone, including police officers, could see. You have no obligation to look after your “own. He, nor any other instructors, should have any expectation of preferential treatment.
@andrewnorris5415
@andrewnorris5415 2 жыл бұрын
I know I've done a couple of stupid things on my cycle in the last year or so. 99% of the time I am great. But must learn from those mistakes. One put me at risk. And one I actually lost my cool, which is unlike me. But always learning and improving. Looking at ourselves is most important.
@ynotnilknarf39
@ynotnilknarf39 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is on a bike, we're even less likely to harm others than pedestrians (going by the government's own review on cycling safety in 2018 were the author had to reluctantly admit this albeit in the smallest footnote possible!), so when we stuff up it's more likely to be ourselves that get hurt, when motorists stuff up, it's pretty much the innocent parties/vulnerable that cop it. Increasingly since the plastic hat brigade started becoming more numerous, the standard of people riding bikes has gone down. The risk homesostasis of helmet wearers is well known, many probably drive in a similar manner.
@handsoffmycactus2958
@handsoffmycactus2958 2 жыл бұрын
Your cycle?? What on earth. It’s called a bike
@handsoffmycactus2958
@handsoffmycactus2958 2 жыл бұрын
You’re obviously a right Mary Ann
@philipyeo7535
@philipyeo7535 Жыл бұрын
I never believed poor driving instructors existed until I started lessons. My instructor told me to go down the M271 and she was CONVINCED that is wasn't a motorway. It really annoyed me that a qualified instructor didn't know what a motorway was. I decided just to practice with my parents as I already had my motorbike license so knew how the road works. Passed first time 😁
@paulcullen814
@paulcullen814 2 жыл бұрын
A couple of things I have seen a few years ago. 1. A BSM driving school car in the left lane with me in the right lane, approaching a traffic light that started to change from green to red. I started braking and stopped at the light, the instructor in the passenger seat put his hand up and waved the learner on to carry on through the red light. There were no other vehicles behind us so no chance of them being hit from behind if they braked hard, which may have been used as an excuse to not stop. 2. Another BSM instructor, alone in the car and probably on their way to a lesson and trying to find the route. Mobile phone clamped to his right ear with his shoulder, A to Z in his left hand, and steering round a roundabout with just his right hand. Another reason I don't like BSM is that a family friend's son was learning with them for over 2 years, and kept being told he wasn't quite ready to put in for his test. He decided to go to another driving school who took him out for a lesson to see what level he was at, and told him to put in for his test straight away. He did so and was offered a cancellation slot 2 weeks later, he then took his test and sailed straight through. This was before the time of theory tests etc so was just the one driving test. In our opinion it was just BSM stringing him along to keep getting money out of him rather than let him take his test and pass and stop taking lessons with them.
@AUaudits
@AUaudits 11 ай бұрын
My class 1 hgv instructor was terrible. I was struggling on reverse into the coned area, because never driven an artic before. He spent 90% of time talking to a friend in garage, on this industrial estate. On road, he was texting on mobile & ringing friends. I was amazed when passed first time. I was not confident I pass on reversing on test & scraped through with 2 minors. I think I passed because I watched KZbin videos of yourself Ash & that of other hgv instructors.
@alastairqueen7973
@alastairqueen7973 2 жыл бұрын
Where I worked, we used to get regular D[V]SA driving assessments [as instructors]. At least 2 1/2 hours on assessment, including manoeuvers, max permitted number of faults, 7. The level of assessment would be set at the very highest standard, so little if nothing could be 'got away with'....a simple, missed, mirror check, for example [out of the half dozen or so a C+E driver would be expected to conduct, when simply approaching a roundabout....Ashley will know what I mean] would get the pencil moving. Many was the time my managers would have to undergo refresher training simply to meet the required standards of the DSA assessment. Which is not to say, the DVSA assessor is going to have to be a 'better driver'' than the instructor they are assessing! That isn't what conducting an assessment is about! Assessing [in driving] is another story completely. Ask any Examiner, for example? [There is much misconception amongst the ''lay'' driver world concerning driving faults, and driving procedures.] MAny colleagues dreaded the Assessments, but I relished them. It was an opportunity to practice what I preached. I firmly believed that my driving should be an near reet as I could get it, in order to set that example. AFter all, I could find myself having to give a demonstration drive at any time, in any type of vehicle. Not easy to work out a plan in an artic if I had to say 'sorry, I got that wrong, we'll go round and I'll do it again''. But, the biggest danger was thinking one was 'perfect'. Arrogance is the biggest failure point of any Instructor, at whatever stage. A bit of humility as an instructor transmits itself to the student, thus making the student less intimidated, more confident. Nobody will drive perfectly every time, all the time. All a skilled driver can do is to minimise the likelihood of making those errors. I liked my job [it was so varied....Cat C, C+E, D, B, B+E, even A if I could have been bothered...also various types of advanced driver training....] Having been a bus driver for 25 years [when bus drivers had to have hairy backsides...before all this plastic nonsense...or before the DSA got involved with licencing...] beforehand, going into the world of driver education was a breeze, a veritable holiday. Teaching/training all sorts, both licence acquisition, and existing licence holders, was a joy to do. With or without the dual controls [mostly just a brake]...But, it never paid very well. A step on from licence acquisition was the world of assessing and ''coaching'' qualified drivers. But, I'm going to challenge Ashley on the driver education front by saying:- No-one can teach a person to 'drive!' Not if applying the principles of training & education. Hence why I use the term ''licence acquisition!'' For, in order to teach somebody something, first, after identifying the standards required, one then has to conduct some form of 'quality control'....to determine whether the person doing the instructing has achieved the objective? For the Driving Instructor, teaching a provisional licence holder, the ''quality control'' is whether the student eventually ''passes the test?'' If considering 'teaching to drive,' exactly what criteria does one apply in order to be able to say, that person can 'now drive?' Whose driving standards does one assess against? One's own standards? Or, those laid down by an authority? At what point do we consider someone can 'drive?' That is the problem most drivers who may feel they can teach someone else ''to drive'', come across, and blithely ignore. The problem is, there are so many licence holders out there who reckon, ''they can drive''....Many expound their opinions on here, as I've noticed. But the cynical side of me always looks askance at anyone who reckons they can 'drive', so don't need to learn anything more. Now I'm retired from all of Ashley's world, I can say 'boswellox!' When I come across the so-called 'experts'...When I still worked, I would keep my own council.
@54356776
@54356776 2 жыл бұрын
Best comment I've ever read in regards to driving. This is largely the same way I view driving and I often tell others and myself the same thing. My instructor told me years ago something to the effect of " we can't teach you to drive, we teach you how to pass the test". They instilled a mindset of continuous improvement and stressed that passing the test was only the beginning, not the end and that we never stop learning or improving. Far too many hold the view that they are " done" once they have passed the test and they don't improve much thereafter.
@ShaneBro
@ShaneBro 2 жыл бұрын
Good for you Ashley. You are 100% correct, in any industry if you put garbage in you get garbage out. I see so many people in the city I live in that make me wonder how they got their license. Do I make mistakes? Yes. Do I sometimes let situations get the better of me? Yes. I enjoy watching your videos as I do learn something even though I drive on the right hand side and the laws were I am are different. But when it comes to driving safety it is all the same. Thank you for doing what you do. Calling people out for their actions which can have a long term affect is the right thing to do. I forgot, I did see a driving instructor last year on my street using her phone when she was driving and I confronted her on that. She didn't not seem like it was a big deal. Our actions are what people follow.
@MrMetalman419
@MrMetalman419 2 жыл бұрын
loved seeing the Bill Plant instructor with the blurred plate as i am familiar with that vehicle. Often performing illegal, dangerous or questionable actions on the road, in and around the Nottingham area. One particular case that comes to mind was myself being slightly slow off the mark at a green, to which i received a blast of the horn (poor) promptly followed by an undertake (unacceptable.) I do not have a dashcam but did seriously consider reporting this instructor to the company. Had I been recently passed this could have seriously knocked my confidence and an instructor should know this better than most.
@Martin4963
@Martin4963 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder what Bill Plant would have to say if reported
@khalidacosta7133
@khalidacosta7133 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly, this instructor is in the West Yorkshire area... I'm the one who sent it in :) The driver in question received a careless driving charge from the police... only knew this as it turns out he lives maybe 10 houses down the road from me!
@andyharpist2938
@andyharpist2938 2 жыл бұрын
In the Middle East traffic lights are just advisory. If you are 1 second late after orange you will get blasts of horns from everyone around you....5 was my highest count of snarls..so of course I had to join in!! I think a front-end loader had stabbed its bucket-teeth into the boot of the car in front! So everyone had just got out to see the fun and talk about it.
@MrMetalman419
@MrMetalman419 2 жыл бұрын
@@khalidacosta7133 thats my mistake then but it seems this is not an isolated incident with this firms instructor
@loc4725
@loc4725 2 жыл бұрын
I do sometimes wonder if people watch those dashcam channels just to see if they've been featured yet.
@dashcamarmagh
@dashcamarmagh 2 жыл бұрын
coming home from school last week to see a driving instructor texting and driving, no learner in the car. it could have been a family member but still like you say, they're representing the company
@fatgreenman
@fatgreenman 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t think it was possible, but you’ve just gone up in my estimations. Your quest for safety has worked with me at least. I am now a much safer driver as a result of your videos. Instead of seeing someone about to cut me up, make a late lane change or some other mistake and trying to put my car in a place to highlight that mistake (for the dash cam), I now give them plenty of room, predict their behaviour and give myself points if I’m right. If it’s a good one I’ll even say aloud “that’s one for you, Ash!” (For the dash cam). Cheers mate!
@themittonmethod1243
@themittonmethod1243 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent! I hope you can encourage other friends and family to play the same "game" and improve their own driving! Never stop learning and improving! Cheers from BC Canada.
@ianspeare539
@ianspeare539 2 жыл бұрын
100% right to show these Ashley. I qualified as an ADI in November and super conscious of my driving standard now. It's up to us to set an example to other road users, not just pupils. And I've taken your ethos of we can all help each other out. As the examiner in my part 3 said "teach the way you drive" I'd rather be a couple of minutes late to a lesson if it means not doing something stupid to get there. I wonder if some of the instructors from the larger schools are under a bit of pressure to get pupils through
@Peter_Vidgeon
@Peter_Vidgeon 2 жыл бұрын
Winston Churchill once asked, "Do you have enemies? Yes; good; it means that at least once in your life you stood up for something.
@ynotnilknarf39
@ynotnilknarf39 2 жыл бұрын
Was close passed last year whilst cycling home from the shops, a 40mph limit - a short connecting road between two small towns that should be a 30 really, uphill, so unsighted as to oncoming vehicles and long dashed lines that clearly warn. No way was it safe to overtake never mind the close pass. I saw the vehicle pull in a small car park just opposite the local football stadium and went to ask why the instructor allowed their charge to close pass me. She didn't even grasp that coming 45cm to my elbow at speed was acceptable, never mind a pupil on a lesson. I reported her to VOSA, they basically did F.all after she denied anything happening. A week ago, another run in with a close pass and this time instructor on their phone not paying any attention whatsoever, again I caught them at the lights and gesticulated about passing distance, just looked up from his phone and that was about it before they went off. I actually think all instructors and professioal drivers vehicles should have dash cams as law, this way when complaints are made they can be upheld or not, the problem is that police and CPS are worse than useless at doing anything.
@deancostello14
@deancostello14 2 жыл бұрын
People might not think much of parking in bus stops. As a bus driver however, I've had to assist a wheelchair user off a bus that I couldn't get close to the kerb because of bad parking. It's really not a nice experience, and I wasn't the wheelchair user.
@john170277
@john170277 2 жыл бұрын
There is a instructor on my street who constantly parks in the bus stop outside their house forcing the bus to park in the road to pick up and offload passengers
@frasermathers2287
@frasermathers2287 2 жыл бұрын
Ashley, I 100% commend your video and attitude on this subject. I retired a couple of years ago after holding my ADI for over 20 years and one of my main reasons for retiring was the poor attitude and in particular poor standards shown by other ADIs in my area. I found that the larger franchised ADIs were among the worse offenders and as I was approaching retirement age had enough of fighting against the poor standards shown by some. Fully support your channel and the education message your attempt to disseminate to the public and any ADI out there who feels you are being unfair really needs to take a good hard look at themselves!
@nigelcox1451
@nigelcox1451 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely right to call them all out. Every one devalues the rest of us. We already have issue swith some parents believing they know better than their kid's instructor, without them being able to cite examples of bad behaviour, and tarring us all with the same brush. I'm surprised about the one passing the keep left island, you didn't call out the cammer. I'm guessing he was a cyclist, but the rules still apply to him, and he passed the bollard on the right too. Edit: Just rewatched, and you did call them out. Yaris in the car park needs to learn to share. Should have waited for the other one to park before moving past him. When I was training to be an instructor, it seemed that The Instructor College in Reading were teaching their trainee instrcutors to stand on the kerb to teach a left reverse. Saw it once in Bristol too, so might have been company policy. I've seen quite a few standing outside the car in car parks too. Called them all out. I've spoken, a little more sympathetically, to a couple of parents doing the same too. Funniest parent moment, both L-plates on the rear, none on the front. Seen so many instructors with two on the rear, he hadn't realised we had at least one on the front too.
@Met182
@Met182 2 жыл бұрын
Good on you for not backing down to their requests!
@mradamwhat21
@mradamwhat21 2 жыл бұрын
Its great to call out a driving instructor who was on his mobile phone . Because its not good enough
@martinbobfrank
@martinbobfrank 2 жыл бұрын
I am over fifty but have only been a driver for a few years; although I've driven wagons, Bray shovels and FLTs internally at Pilks since I was pre-twenty. I always try and drive as perfectly as possible even though I passed my test over two years ago. I am just not at that level where it's fully automatic, and I believe if you do something correctly often enough it becomes an automatic embedded way. I would rather have good practice embedded in me rather than easy and bad habits. I appreciate your honesty and showing what should be done because as a new road driver it's easy to feel bullied or feel provoked to do something that you feel is not right; even though I was past fifty when I passed. You have shown me many situations that I now know are the right thing to do, and if other drivers want to honk or overtake me to take the risk then that is up to them; good luck to them with their shitty driving. I didn't know about filtering, never taught it, and I believed people were pushing in. Longer vehicles needing more space, middle of bridges and to give space before that situation. Too many to count. Thanks Ashley, and I'm still watching your videos over two years after passing. My older sons are going to put in for their lessons, and I constantly sing your praises to them and we do live in your capture area :)
@lmusima3275
@lmusima3275 9 ай бұрын
In my last driving lesson, my driving teacher was always checking his phone 📱 while I was driving especially when passing longer roads. This made me feel extra nervous not knowing which way to turn coming to a junction, so I went straight ahead.
@tordjarv3802
@tordjarv3802 Жыл бұрын
For every person you anger, there are ten people you make better drivers. Keep up the good work!
@StormTrouper3
@StormTrouper3 2 жыл бұрын
I have only ever seen two bad ones in my opinion since passing my test back in 1995, one of them has had at least two RTCs in the last three years and only the instructor in the car at the time, both times only one car involved.
@pdtech4524
@pdtech4524 2 жыл бұрын
I learnt to drive with an ex Police driving instructor, he was quite a fountain of knowledge and hopefully I absorbed as much as I could. 8 lessons in I was taking my test but unfortunately failed on the first corner out of the test centre. I had to creep forward between closely parked cars either side of the junction into a fairly busy road, the instructor hit the brake as he thought I was pulling out into traffic! Still had to complete the test, everything else I did spot on, frustrating, knowing I'd already failed! So had to book my test again, in the mean time, kept my lessons up, so probably had a further 4 lessons and passed the 2nd time! Even though I questioned the examiners decision to make me do a three point turn in a busy road outside a school at 8.50am when it was really busy, kids crossing the road, cars parked all over, lots of extra traffic etc Literally just past the zig zags of the entrance! I told him it wasn't safe and I'd rather go around a corner and do a 3 point turn in a quieter street, he disagreed and told me it was perfectly safe⚠️😳😲 I think he was just giving me an impossible task and putting me under a lot of unnecessary pressure, I was nervous enough anyway being my 1st test. It took about 10 mins of waiting for a safe gap in the traffic and thankfully my nerves held out, the three point turn was one of my strongest manoeuvres anyway, sadly not on the test anymore! Even as a confident, professional driver with over 30 years driving experience, I'd never dream of doing a three point turn outside a school at the busiest time in the morning⚠️ Crazy guy, I often wonder what kind of person would do that to an inexperienced driving student on their test!
@cathallynch8269
@cathallynch8269 Жыл бұрын
That shows the unpredictability of examiners too. They could have used their discretion to overlook them hitting the brakes in your first test since it didn't make a difference as to whether you had an accident or not since you were creeping. Glad to hear you passed 2nd time!
@pdtech4524
@pdtech4524 Жыл бұрын
@@cathallynch8269 There is no way out of that junction without creeping forward, it's a minor narrow residential side street that gives way into a major very busy road At that time in the morning just after 8.30am you can imagine how busy it is. I was only creeping forward to get a better view because either side of the junction there were closely parked cars which were obstructing my view! At the moment he braked, the front of my car was no further forward than half the width of the parked cars. At that point I had a much better view of approaching traffic each side and was about to stop anyway! I did try to explain what I was doing but he was one of those 'robot' type examiners that did not say a word other than the instructions I had to follow, there was no 'good morning' or any other pleasantries, just the bare minimum communication. It just felt he was going to fail me no matter what, even if I had not failed at that first corner. The school entrance 3 point turn at almost 9am was evidence of that, when there was a much more safer option just further along around a corner. I felt this made me more anxious and more nervous, the 2nd examiner was the complete opposite, very chatty, which helped to relax me and take my mind off the fact it was a driving test, it just felt like driving along with a friend.
@cactusbase3088
@cactusbase3088 2 жыл бұрын
Good on you Ashley. I saw a professional driving school car yesterday in Southend-on-Sea obviously in teaching mode from the way they were driving. What I was gobsmacked about was that they had music blaring out - I mean really loud. How on earth can a pupil concentrate or the instructor adequately communicate to the pupil in such an environment. Absolutely disgraceful. Hopefully they read this and realise what a very poor example they are setting.
@russell5791
@russell5791 2 жыл бұрын
Thats because the general public are idiots and run into the back of learner cars
@JamesWilson01
@JamesWilson01 2 жыл бұрын
The AC-12 of the driving instructor world! Someone should make a TV series about it 🤔
@Richard_Barnes
@Richard_Barnes 2 жыл бұрын
😂 “Jesus, Mary and Joseph and the wee donkey” were you on the phone? haha.
@Clarencebeeks89
@Clarencebeeks89 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of assumptions here ! American drivers with us licence’s don’t need L plates but always ask for one & they can’t drive as in America the standard is extremely low
@mdcollins1984
@mdcollins1984 2 жыл бұрын
One of your best and most balanced videos yet Ashley. The bay park clip, you point out the mistake, yet still offer up all the reasons it may have been legit (refresher/international license holder etc), that wouldn't have occurred to most people, before coming to the conclusion on balance that it was an awful clip. Instructors need to hold road safety in the highest regard. Not just teach 'em quick, take in the cash. In the end, it will catch them out. If someone is driving poorly and they say who taught them, there is a reputation on the line. Bad reputation is no good for future business. Keep calling them out.
@spacerockerlightyears
@spacerockerlightyears 2 жыл бұрын
Having been an instructor for years before I did other driving related stuff, I found that the industry was Wild West. To many people being pushed into this industry who were/ are totally not suitable to do this job. You’ve seen the ads, become a driving instructor, earn this much and that much. The reality is many who start never qualify lose money and are pushed onto a pink badge( training badge) with little training on how to teach, and teach is the keyword. Teaching drivers to drive responsibility means you the teacher have to show your responsibility on the road too! R. Over!
@54356776
@54356776 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Also what far too many people don't appreciate is that this isn't something anyone can do properly. Far too many instructors, teachers, tutors ect have simply learned to follow a set procedure and cannot actually teach, they don't understand the difference and just think it's about passing on knowledge. You have to have some natural ability to do a job like this and many just don't have the foggiest.
@spacerockerlightyears
@spacerockerlightyears 2 жыл бұрын
@@54356776 I agree. Even when I was qualified, I took further courses to improve my teaching. I still believe the profession is being run as a cash cow by instructor training companies!
@thomaswigfield7623
@thomaswigfield7623 2 жыл бұрын
@@spacerockerlightyears Re. your comment about driving instruction being run as a cash cow, I have to agree wholeheartedly. Some years ago, having been an HGV driver for many years and the company I worked for closing down, I decided to utilise my experience behind the wheel and embarked on a driving instructor course. I should have realised immediately that I was being taken for a ride (excuse the pun) when, as part of my beginners pack, I was given an out of date edition of the Highway Code. The “training” I was given was perfunctory to say the least. I had been fortunate enough to have worked for a company who took driver training seriously and had had defensive driving instruction and annual testing as an employee. I easily passed the theory and practical tests and applied for a pink badge to gain experience with actual pupils in the car. This meant I was earning money for the driving school who were supposed to be training me but left me completely unprepared for the final test which I failed woefully. I wonder how many other people who, like me, paid in good faith to learn a new skill have been completely let down by unscrupulous driving school owners.
@spacerockerlightyears
@spacerockerlightyears 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomaswigfield7623 Totally agree, similar to you I was a LGV class 1 driver, from the off I knew I’d entered a dodgy world involving crooks, I believe it’s still the same. I passed part 3 on my third attempt after spending loads of money on inadequate training, I had a easy part 3, part 3. The whole industry is corrupt!
@thomaswigfield7623
@thomaswigfield7623 2 жыл бұрын
@@spacerockerlightyears Thanks for your reply. I only took part 3 once, and it was such a dreadful experience I never went back. The experienced instructor who was supposed to be mentoring me had got falling down drunk on the Saturday before my test on a Monday morning, and didn’t show up for me. The test area was unfamiliar to me and the examiner took me deliberately to a junction where he knew my sight line was blocked by street furniture. He pulled out in front of an oncoming vehicle, then when I tried to do the play acting thing of explaining where he went wrong he denied he had done it, obviously still playing the part of a learner. My wife and I moved to a different area soon after because it took us nearer to her place of work, and I went back to the tools. First as an agency worker before being offered full time employment by one of the firms I was sent to. I retired from driving lorries almost a decade ago, although I worked part time for a while driving a van doing collections and deliveries for a farm shop. I still spend a lot of time on the road as my missus now has a dog walking business and we use a van to pick up our four legged friends. I still see some horrendous driving on the roads and I despair at the standards I see daily. Sorry to be so long winded, but your comment just brought back an awful time of my life. Good wishes and take care.
@williamfence566
@williamfence566 2 жыл бұрын
As a HGV agency driver some of the companies have on board cameras and I've heard drivers warning other drivers about how and when to check their phones !!. Not just Instructors that need to be more professional.
@stefansoder6903
@stefansoder6903 2 жыл бұрын
In Sweden it's the same if not worse. It's a low paid job and attracts the wrong people unfortunately.
@MatrixFuse
@MatrixFuse 2 жыл бұрын
The ashley neal face of disapproval continues to make me smile. Its an expression that says a thousand words. We need to get an ashley neal emoji made
@hudders11
@hudders11 Жыл бұрын
Same psychology as taxi drivers. I drive for a living therefore I can do as I please. The amount of amazon delivery vans I see slapped on the pavement with the hazards on. Born out of crazy performance targets at least partly I'm sure.
@SIX622
@SIX622 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another informative video Ashley! I think it is fair to say that much of what you teach on your channel transcends driving. I always appreciate hearing your thoughts and admire the fact that you are not afraid to upset or offend people in the pursuit of truth - backed with hard evidence. Keep up the great work.
@davidpound2296
@davidpound2296 2 жыл бұрын
My older daughter, in a school car, was asked to drive systematically 5-10 km/h above the town speed limit to avoid delaying other road users. We complained as our car is not insured for that.
@ynotnilknarf39
@ynotnilknarf39 2 жыл бұрын
It's disgusting that they were told this, if only 1 in 4 drivers stick to the speed limit this self regulates and increases safety. For me that should see the instructor stripped of their status to teach others, utterly sickening
@clairelane3024
@clairelane3024 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. My driving instructor used to take me to roads that changed speed limits to make sure speed was adjusted at the right time. he also used to pick routes where a sign would instruct you to do something or had a restriction to see where you would go. (ie the "straight on" is a no entry or bus only) so you would need to do what the road says and not rely on him.
@lamebear6669
@lamebear6669 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been driving 4 months and I’m seeing more issues with general L plates (not professional driving instructors) so of course it could be anyone in the car, usually it’s two people. Every time I witness them speeding ahead (I’m usually following behind doing the speed limit so I know they are indeed speeding!) and witnessed one not only speeding, but pulling out in front of someone at roundabout AND no indicators at all in about a 10 min period. It’s dangerous and concerning.
@carlhaydock1787
@carlhaydock1787 2 жыл бұрын
The one at 7.50, Bill plant. I've seen those cars about and have witnessed some bad driving. It was a lone driver so was probably the instructor
@booniers5553
@booniers5553 2 жыл бұрын
Think a big thing for me is the attitude of some instructors I see. Some who plaster the rear of their cars with signs saying the "car is likely to stall" or "nervous driver". The L plate should be enough for this, just seems like certain instructors have 0 confidence in their own pupils; if they as an instructor don't trust the pupil, the pupil is not going to learn?
@berkshirecyclist6291
@berkshirecyclist6291 2 жыл бұрын
In your first clip, why on earth are all the cars partially parked on the pavement? it's a wide enough road to be on the carriageway. Some of the cars are so close to the wall, anyone who has a double buggy will have to walk onto the road.
@Disinterested1
@Disinterested1 2 жыл бұрын
I used to work for a company and am very happy you investigate prior to assuming fault ... I was shouted at numerous times till I got a dash cam by Karen complaints that when investigated were unfounded the best example was entering Newton Abbot and having someone complain i "ran them off the road" the actual situation was this I had a large iveco twin axle tacho rated van with similar size trailer both fully laiden and was breaking from dual carriageway to stationary when I saw a car coming down the hard shoulder being aware if she completed her manuver I would NOT have distance to stop without hitting the very same car i moved out and blocked in plenty of time infuriating said moron and leading to a mile long beeping and swearing torrade and a formal complaint to my company while being subsequently screamed at in the office I did ask for guidance in future and a dash cam and requested the company put in writing their desire for me to knowingly allow a probably fatal set of circumstances to develop I didn't block for pride ... I'll get there whenever I blocked because her microdot would crush like a coke tin if she took the stopping distance we had as the traffic was slowing quickly and her driving was irratic better for everyone if she doesn't start a major crash my originally planned stopping distance had been pulled into twice already and there was no more room so please do pay attention and when in a car please don't try to cut lanes at the last moments coming to junctions as it errodes the safe distance the truck or bus had given you if you, just indicate... we are happy to let you in when traffic moves! best wishes PS: damn I'm old!!! Penn Inn has changed a LOT and it would be a LOT safer now to be doing that junction! stay blessed :)
@ffscantfindausername
@ffscantfindausername 2 жыл бұрын
I love your honesty in your videos
@RoamingAdhocrat
@RoamingAdhocrat Жыл бұрын
the worst driving instructor I knew was one of my bus driving instructors. day of our driving tests, I had my test first, and despite a blunder I passed. Instructor thought it'd be a hilarious joke to tell the next pupil I'd failed. This pupil was not a confident driver and this joke shook his confidence. he struggled to complete the manouevering exercises in the depot. tbf he probably shouldn't have been a bus driver but the instructor did not do the best for his pupils that day. I thought I'd failed my test halfway through - tried to drive away from a bus stop with the transmission in neutral and instead rolled backwards - and my thought was "thank god, I'll have a chance to just practice driving a bus for half an hour without that idiot blethering in my ear about stuff that should be second nature by the end of day 1"
@bertram6934
@bertram6934 2 жыл бұрын
I had a local instructor fail to give me right of way when crossing when he was turning, he didn't notice me as he was on his phone.
@mxbx307
@mxbx307 2 жыл бұрын
There is no excuse for this. Firstly it's illegal, secondly most driving instructors have very modern and decent-specced cars meaning they must have Bluetooth or some other kind of handsfree.
@rossmurrayfam1568
@rossmurrayfam1568 2 жыл бұрын
Haven't spoke about it openly with anyone but my driving instructor use to look at his phone while I was learning when I finished my learning I asked him about using his phone he told me he knew he was safe with me and trusted me to drive while he had to urgently text his family emergency Thinking back to it it was very dangerous emergency just pull over and take it stop the vehicle not only that but if I wasn't trained enough to check my blinds spot myself for bikes or check zebra crossings for pedestrians or I needed him to brake with dual controls nowadays some instructors will definitely be prosecuted he was a good teacher that was the only time I ever saw him on his phone while I was in control of the vehicle I have my own car now I still respect him teaching me but bit disappointed about the phone part driving instructor or not you still should obey the rules
@Birkguitars
@Birkguitars Жыл бұрын
Worst thing my driving instructor did in my lessons was suggest that the clutch was getting dodgy as I was going in to the test centre for my test. I actually think he wanted me to fail so that I would have to pay for more lessons and I nearly did. Three stalls in the first two manoeuvres.... On the third one I pulled the handbrake on, knocked the car out of gear and took three deep breaths while stationary in the middle of the road with other cars waiting for me to stop messing things up. I think that response might have saved me as it settled my nerves and luckily the instructor seemed prepared to give me that chance but I think he threw in a few curve balls on the way back to the centre to make sure my initial problems were just red light fever. So it's not just driving habits that instructors get wrong.
@memyself7413
@memyself7413 2 жыл бұрын
Where I live, I have seen many, many driving school cars being driven with total contempt for other road users, by the instructor when alone. No turn indicators. Running a red light. As soon as red and amber appears at the lights, they are off like an F1 driver. Switching lanes as though on a piece of elastic. The list goes on.
@mxbx307
@mxbx307 2 жыл бұрын
A liveried driving school car with just one occupant was lane splitting on a roundabout, nearly made direct side-side contact with me (we were both going straight on and both lanes allowed you to - I was in the left and they were drifting left from the right hand lane). Then after we had come off the roundabout, the driving instructor shot away like Senna. 50 limit and they were doing probably 60-65.
@Enterprise1003
@Enterprise1003 2 жыл бұрын
Nice bit of added rain asmr lol Great video though and I do like the way you make people question their assumptions. Too many people jump to conclusions and act when they really shouldn't.
@joespittle1
@joespittle1 2 жыл бұрын
The number of people that don't see the problem with being on their phone at a red light is incredible. Some of these comments are shocking
@steamhammer2k
@steamhammer2k 2 жыл бұрын
Like you I try to learn something new every day , regrettably i seem to forget something as well
@johnc4780
@johnc4780 2 жыл бұрын
You are not kidding me, last week I watched a driving instructor in Lymm pull up on a narrow road opposite a school and on yellow zig zags. They stopped virtually in the middle of the lane 18 inches from the kerb, no indication and no hazards then spent a few minutes typing in their phone ignorant to the traffic having to go around them. They then 'parked' a foot from the kerb with their back end sticking out impeding traffic. A bus couldn't pass due to parked vehicles the other side of the zig zags. He got out and went to find the property of the next client. They weren't in so waited for about 10 mins blocking the road, busses trucks and cars couldn't pass so a jam built up. He eventually moved around the corner when a bus driver got out and told him in no uncertain terms to shift..
@fregus.
@fregus. Ай бұрын
My instructor was on his phone for like 10-30% of every lesson I went on... Felt very uneasy when arriving at a junction knowing he was not gonna stop me if I pulled out on someone. Looking back, I definitely should have reported him, but I think it's too late now.
@MrsJolene-
@MrsJolene- 2 жыл бұрын
Being so used to Ashley's relaxed vibe, I was really freaked out by the stare at 0:22 for a bit... Wow those eyes 😂 they made me feel like I did something bad 😳
@jhferu
@jhferu 2 жыл бұрын
The clip at 3.15 ish... I'm not sure whether that is the instructor's fault. I can't see the vehicle indicating, the student could have decided turn at the last moment - if this was the case, the instructor may have done all they could.
@thefoodiechannelcookingfro1822
@thefoodiechannelcookingfro1822 2 ай бұрын
6:02 driver reversing, stops midway and the turns wheels, while stationary, this causes track rod joint wear and scrubs the tyres. This I think showed the inexperience!
@LlamaLlamaDucks
@LlamaLlamaDucks 2 жыл бұрын
I think the fact you got some pushback for wanting to post this video says it all. Any instructor worth their salt would, I feel, encourage this kind of video as a valuable teaching moment for both themselves and others. I often wonder how some 'professional' drivers managed to qualify. My first instructor (about 8/9 years ago) would: - Use her phone while I was driving - Didn't notice me about to hit the kerb on a turn and complained about her alloys getting damaged - Encouraged me to "take a dominant position and make the other driver back down" when cars were parked on both sides of the road (I got a right bollocking off my next (and much better) instructor for that) - Generally didn't do much teaching apart from "next time do this". I had one attempt at learning to parallel park with her. Outside a school. At 3pm. After a few minutes, she decided it was too busy and gave up. To this day I'm baffled at the good reputation she has around here but it does explain some of the driving I see locally!
@CraigNiel
@CraigNiel 2 жыл бұрын
Driving instructors (like police) need to be unimpeachable. I worked security many years ago and had to report acts of speeding, mobile use on site etc... I learnt very quickly that it was always my fault for people using their phones, they never took responsibility even when pointing out that they'd be upset if hit by someone using their phone whilst onsite. Like you, I didn't care what others thought and even reported the MD for speeding onsite and the Manager directly under the MD for phone use onsite. I was cautioned against reporting the manager for phone use by someone senior in the company because he was so high up, it did not dissuade me. Everyone gets treated the same but the managers need to set an example and be above the rest. I was also in a similar position, if I'm the one doing the reporting then I also need to be unimpeachable otherwise it just doesn't work. We've seen a good example of this recently with the lockdown rules being broke by the PM and so that gives everyone an excuse to say, "Well I'm not sticking to the rules if they aren't" and that's what happens. It's MUCH more important for driving instructors (and police) to drive correctly and in a safe manner than everyone else on the road.
@mrblablablabla
@mrblablablabla 2 жыл бұрын
Why'd you make them use their phones while driving though?
@CraigNiel
@CraigNiel 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrblablablabla 🤷‍♂🤷‍♂
@johnhodkinson2063
@johnhodkinson2063 2 жыл бұрын
Bill Plant must have been thrilled to appear twice in one video. At least it was two different cars.
@ibs5080
@ibs5080 2 жыл бұрын
I heard of one extreme case of a pupil on a lesson getting cut up by another car...and the instructor ordering the pupil to chase after the offending car!
@mxbx307
@mxbx307 2 жыл бұрын
There was one time in 2004 when I was learning and the instructor wanted to stop off to quickly collect something from a supermarket. He got me through a reverse park, then left me alone in the driving seat with keys. I did ask if he wanted them but he said he trusted me. Even then I thought "wow this isn't right surely".
@captkidd
@captkidd 2 жыл бұрын
It’s great to see this Ashley. Like you, I too am passionate about road safety and I have been known to send in footage of police driving badly to the police. Who knows if it gets dealt with, but I do my bit. I also make mistakes myself from time to time as I’m human, but it’s a constant learning experience isn’t it? My passion is aimed at preventing the huge number of people being seriously injured or killed on our roads, and I have no reservations in calling out those who drive in such a way as to contribute to this unacceptable situation. Thank you for your informative videos, keep up the good work. 👍
@TheSGRob
@TheSGRob 2 жыл бұрын
i've not been teaching for a year yet, and i've definitely made some mistakes, mainly not noticing what the student is planning to do until it's too late - kind of like the clip here where the learner car approaches from the right and just goes straight over the junction - although i've never let it get anywhere near that level. Some of clips are appalling though. I've seen an instructor near me park in cycle lane no more than 2 foot away from a pedestrian crossing outside a school. Clearly they were there to pick their child up, but couldn't be bothered to find a more suitable place to park. Funnily enough it was one of 2 driving schools in the area which promote how cheap and quick it is for them to teach instructors, a point you mentioned in this video. I see it all too often from these 2 particular driving schools and i've already had a number of students come to me partly trained who tell horror stories about what their previous instructors would do on lessons, and it's always from one of these 2 schools. I'm happy that my instructor training cost me 50% more than this school is advertising, and that it took me longer than a few weeks which is what they advertise. I got through my part 3 first time, i've got a decent pass rate for my first year and the feedback i've had from students is 99% positive. I'd much rather take that over having a few hundred pounds extra in my bank just because i skimped on the training and fluked my way through the part 3. On another note, would you be at all interested in collecting clips like this from all over the country? Or is it just your local area you want to cover? I'd happily save some footage of poor instructor driving and send it your way if it's going to help.
@squeakers27
@squeakers27 2 жыл бұрын
I thought at 7:24 you were going to say 'now you can see, it is chucking it down outside' haha. Great video as always ash, instructors can range from good to bad and it would be great if all of them were at a high standard.
@BikepackingAdventures
@BikepackingAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
Well put, we certainly need more guys like Ashley teaching the next generation.
@mattw8332
@mattw8332 2 жыл бұрын
There a driving tuition company or franchise I am aware called "Chilled" whose instructors may not be up to standard. Pretty sure that the examples of poor driving were from the instructors and not learners. I am unsure if Chilled are local to me in Norfolk or if they are national.
@Alfiewow
@Alfiewow 2 жыл бұрын
My driving instructor used to be on the phone at least once a lesson just pointing me in the directions he wanted me to go. I honestly didn't even know it was disallowed until I started watching this channel. Pretty scary in retrospect.
@brantnuttall
@brantnuttall 2 жыл бұрын
Coming to Liverpool this week, I'm keep a look out for you!
@KahnuevsKrake
@KahnuevsKrake 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely right! Doesn't matter if they're offended. Obviously getting on with your instructor helps, but ultimately it's not their job to be your mate, they're legally the driver, so they can't be drunk or using a mobile phone. If a pupil crashes the car and is found to be over the limit, the instructor is ultimately responsible for letting them behind the wheel. An instructor should lead by example!
@R_5_D
@R_5_D 2 жыл бұрын
As always Ash, you are blunt and to the point with zero hypocrisy. It is good to hear that you would hold your instructors to the same high standard.
@grahamnutt8958
@grahamnutt8958 2 жыл бұрын
Putting this video out there is 💯 the right thing to do. Wherever there may have been a doubt, an alternative explanation was put forward. I'm prepared, like yourself, to be held to account for my actions. As you quite rightly say; there's a higher expectation or standard to be upheld from ADI's, Police & other Professionals. Brave manoeuvre here, Ash, but definitely the right one. Stay safe out there 👍.
@jasonk7072
@jasonk7072 2 жыл бұрын
Good for you. It’s getting increasingly difficult to do the right thing these days so I for one applaud you.
@savagebrian1234
@savagebrian1234 2 жыл бұрын
you can park in some bus stops, some are time controlled and that one looked to be to not have any sign on it saying buses only or yellow or white line
@initialyze
@initialyze 2 жыл бұрын
Not a driving instructor, but I am a trainer in health & social care facilities. I make every effort to present myself the way I expect others to be when on the shop floor and I have never had any concerns about someone making a complaint about me. I'd happily tell them who to direct it to. This is because I either know that there has been some confusion and that what I did was not actually wrong, or that there was an honest mistake that I am happy to be informed about and learn from. I'm always concerned by people who become overly defensive or overtly aggressive when they have their mistakes pointed out to them. It suggests they cannot accept constructive feedback and are not prepared to learn because they believe they know better.
@dannydee2668
@dannydee2668 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see you added the video of the instructor.
@richardjones5255
@richardjones5255 2 жыл бұрын
Close to 50 years ago, I was on a fast-ish downhill A, road doing about 55 miles an hour passing a vehicle that suddenly decided to pull out to pass a vehicle in front of them. I had two choices, get punted off the road with a broadside swipe or pull out further to clear them. A keep left bollard was in front of me, I felt forced to pass on the wrong side as it offered the only possible escape route. The image, perhaps not all the details, are still with me now. It is a choice that has never been forced on me since. Was it lesson-learned then, or just bad luck? At least no one suffered any harm. I wonder if the driver doing perhaps < 35 mph also learned anything when they pulled out?
@chuckabutty888
@chuckabutty888 Жыл бұрын
Good to see you standing your ground Ashley, keep up the good work.
@johnobiro5202
@johnobiro5202 2 жыл бұрын
Love your honesty Ash.👍
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