Insulated Kingspan roofing panels

This is a new one for us and this was a trial run, which went great and its something we will be moving forward with.

[@silkobal6754]

It's as if someone has been watching The Restoration Couple. :)

[@Thirdfish]

That's what I thought and thankfully I did as it's going to be saving me a fortune on my garage conversion studio.

[@elliejake11]

Was gonna write the same thing 🤣

[@TheRestorationCouple]

🤔 ... does sound familiar. 😆

[@pauldavison7105]

Yea so wait for the wall panels. The restoration couple links to Kingspan panels.

[@thegardenroomguru]

Had this planned with kingspan for a while, as much as I owe a lot to KZbin, I don’t watch it, you’ll possibly understand more when we do out full tutorial, big love to the restoration couple, coincidence, that’s all 👌

[@nickdemetriades335]

Great alternative roof system Liam. Good to see you are constantly looking for new ways to achieve quality. Looking forward to more!!! Keep up the amazing work by you and your team

[@richardbenwell8168]

Great idea on the rods mate. These are tough times for everyone, it’s great you’ve been able to thrive, and even better, still come up with new revenue streams too. Stay safe and keep on building.

[@radfoo]

Previously bought a build pack and had been looking into this already as seems the quicker/easier option. Looking forward to more info. Thanks!

[@keanMechanic]

You beat me to it! Just having my 10x4 MTR garage roof replace with the kingspan 80 mm and asked the guy if he would supply me some for my garden room. Looking forward to future content.

[@larrycorrigan4208]

Looks great, I look forward to seeing your detailed installation 👍

[@robmanners8333]

Looking forward to watching the full detail video ASAP as I'm about to place order for timber to make garden Room. Looks like a great solution to maximizing internal head room. Great bids Liam, keep the content coming 👍

[@paulfairclough587]

Worked for Kingspan, manufacturing this stuff. Got 6x3m brushed aluminium wall panels then the roof panels in a khaki green on top. Quality stuff.

[@Palo-jm7xc]

Good to see you moving forward with the times. we built a garden room 7 years ago and we built the roof using the same stuff called Trisomet, great stuff but did need some perlins in the middle over a 6m span.

[@mickholden8694]

Looking forward to your next video on this type of roof. I have followed your buildpack so far, and need to make a decision on the roof ASAP

[@mickholden8694]

Too late now ☹️

[@dannymurphy1779]

Liam it's good to see you exploring different solutions for what is a nightmarish problem totally not of your own making. Peace out!

[@geoschickencity788]

love the pace of the vid, straight to the point, no nonsense

[@MrFish1968]

Awesome. Was looking at that, the guys over on Restoration Couple used something similar from CladCo and it looks fairly simple and his cost comparison had this as better value than a rubber roof

[@simonjohns7218]

Looking forward to seeing full installation vid, especially the facia and guttering detail 👍

[@egold33311]

Good idea with the rod package, going to save a lot of time researching!

[@macr3530]

Great stuff, being trying to source the grounds here in Ireland so I will be happy to get a set. I was looking at a concrete pour and base insulation.

[@misterjaypeasmith]

Can’t wait to see a full video of this! Want to see how you deal with the fall and the flashing 😅🙌🏽

[@marknadin770]

Liam iv'e seen these used on other channels in longer sheets and look great also you can cut the insulation for fasca but leave the roof bit extending over.👍🍺

[@diluxe]

Looking forward to seeing the full install video on this one.

[@deankirk1008]

Excellent product them kingspan composite metal insulation panel roofs. I installed it on my workshop about a year ago and I’m very pleased with it. I also think this is the future way to go as well Liam, a lot less messing about etc. Great vid m8 👍.

[@misterjaypeasmith]

Where did you order from and is it easy to pair the flashing kit?

[@deankirk1008]

@@misterjaypeasmith I ordered them from a company called Accord steel Cladding. wwwsteelroofsheets.co.uk as for the trims I already had them from a previous garden build I did, but I’m sure from the company above you can buy everything from them including the right trims etc. I have no regrets and still think it is a better system and way of installing a maintenance free roof quickly. Also you don’t have to plaster board or plaster or paint the underside as it pre finished in white. Hope this helps m8 👍.

[@misterjaypeasmith]

Thanks @Dean Kirk! So let’s say I wanted to leave the ceiling with the underside as it comes, what sort of foam or sealant goes round the edges to continue the vapour barrier and make it look neat?

[@deankirk1008]

@@misterjaypeasmith just white silicone mate, it’s as easy as that.

[@misterjaypeasmith]

@@deankirk1008 awesome! I’m overthinking it I reckon. How do you deal with the fall in the roof that’s required for water to run off? Rake walls? Furrings?

[@shandyooo]

This is the future for warm roofs. I’ve seen it on a 6m span and its the quickest, lightest and most air tight solution.

[@unpopuIaropinion]

This is very popular in Greece. Am surprised its new for you. Also it now makes sense its so hard to find diy information about it but also reviews (in english) about longevity

[@SteveDiamond19]

Game changing product, nice

[@GoExperimental]

I'm about to roof my garden room. So far I've followed your buildpack to the letter but I was going to go with a warm roof as my room will be fairly high occupancy. Now, this has made me wonder. I hope you get the next more detailed video out soon to help me choose which to go for. Keep up the good work.

[@JamesBrett2008]

What did you go for in the end? im restricted to 2.5m for a residential annex so wondering if these insulated panels are better than a traditional cold roof.

[@shaneproctor8714]

Looks like a good alternative, if however you are replacing a flat roof attached to a house, what is the house wall to roof seal and or detail like. Thanks Shane

[@vincentmcguire]

Love it, will you update your build kits to include this or rubber roof as options.?

[@Hand-i-Craft]

Great video. Have you any idea what the maximum unsupported length is for these panels? My roof will be single pitch at 3.6m width and was wondering if a panel could be fitted from wall to wall without timber support in the middle?

[@thegardenroomguru]

Easy! Just uploading a video now, watch this and then decide, this room is 3mtr deep

[@wadacalit]

Looks great guys! Just wondering if this could be classed as non combustion material as my garden room will be 20 square m and within 1m of boundaries. Keep the videos coming cant get enough 👍🏻

[@markwallwork2478]

I get how it appeals and would be food to see more videos on builds. But what are the facias fastened too as no roof joist to fasten too. Still prefer the flat rubber look, even better with artificial grass on top

[@TheLifeOfMoyses]

1. Any rough indication when Kingspan will bring this to the DIY market? 2. Would you recommend this for external wall cladding if it was butted up on a non maintainable boundary wall?

[@Giftedmike359]

Do you need to do any additional prep to stop the building racking?

[@mphys5370]

How does the lost of ceiling joists affects strength of structure?

[@jonnyboy973]

I wonder how well they are fixed at the front. Will the over hang survive a hefty gust of wind? I think I prefer the rubber roof with the upside down joist hangers. Just seems more solid. Loving all the videos though and looking forward to the composite cladding.

[@paulpatterson1972]

This will save a huge amount of time and money when compared to the traditional builds you have been doing, I like the rubber roof better personally but I think it’s good to offer an alternative. I would of thought this would be noisy in heavy rain, and not as strong as the traditional builds, especially if snowed on.

[@robmanners8333]

When will you be showing a more detailed video. I'm interested in the trims and guttering aspect, soffit has battens to fix into, but can't think of a way to fix facia. Great content Liam 👍

[@lukewoolley8950]

I am starting a home build in October. I had seen these but wasnt sure... Now its endorsed by you I'm looking at these. Is there any possibility of putting the artificial grass on these at all. Really fancy that but with the corrugated top not sure it would work?

[@CoderTronics]

The good thing about Kingspan panels is you can easily fix solar to it , definitely the way forward compared to membrane or felt roofs and tried and tested system

[@tv848]

Looks great! Is there a minimum roof pitch that these panels can be used on?

[@weedfreer]

if I needed to fix PIR backed plasterboard to the underside of a rafter in my bedroom (about 75mm thick) what type of fixing do you think would be best? Need to prevent cold spots in my bedroom where a plasterboard diagonal at the top of the wall is directly exposed to the side facing soffit vents...this is causing black mould and, to boot, I would also suggest this is why the room is so cold in the winter generally. I can't lay insulation behind it through concern that it will block the airflow around the soffit...hence why I thought removing the angled plasterboard and replacing it for PIR insulation backed stuff

[@wadacalit]

Great video, if battening and boarding to this roof then would the gap create any moisture? Thanks

[@c8bbr]

What load will they take? Noticed you was on the roof but no internal joists. Just the kingspan

[@timothysnelling7876]

Not sure on specifics but because they're sips panels they don't require the joists. I've been up with 2 other big lads on these sorts of panels without any issues.

[@runzareviews4188]

that was my question. That’s impressive if you don’t need roof joists!

[@thegardenroomguru]

Watch the video I upload shortly mate, load deflection is impressive

[@runzareviews4188]

@@thegardenroomguru cheers, my garden office is only going to be 2m by 3m so I can’t see how it won’t be perfect for that

[@c8bbr]

@@thegardenroomguru what’s the acoustics like when it rains? Rubber versus the plastic kingspan?

[@trevormegson7583]

All th e best with it Liam & Team

[@macfan9946]

what about using similar panels for the walls, board inside and cedar panel to the external with same finish , easier installation and better insulation ?

[@stephsherrington9547]

Hi Liam I’ve used marine ply for my roof and there’s small gaps were I’ve butted them up to each other is there anything you can suggest to fill gaps or will it be fine before I glue the rubber roof on cheers

[@ianarmitage7589]

Good video as ever...

[@stevenlomas8812]

Brill! All good !

[@15alex]

Looks good, Is it cheaper than rubber roof method you use? Also could it be fitted with the artificial turf post build?

[@aiacs3114]

Cheers for this, question, double batten and plasterboard? what lights are you using, Gu10's are around 70mm high aren't they? Cheers

[@bells1969]

Great video as always would love to see you do a video actually fiting it is there a bigger price difference between the rubber roof and this system does look less complicated and quicker time to fit it which would suit me down to the ground keep up the great videos👍👍

[@Vass881234]

Is that using no rafters? Its just the foam stuff? Held your weight, clever stuff

[@bobgordon06]

Hi Liam, so as it’s a thinner product externally and your double battening the internals where plaster boarding are you making the building frames taller to compensate the thinner roof

[@thegardenroomguru]

we will be

[@spiketez]

Looks good solid finish Liam.What’s the max span of those sheets Liam ? Also would the weight of double battern and plasterboard make sheets sag ? TIA

[@arbit3r]

Go on the website and check. I think it's 9000 max length per sheet. They are all 1000 wide

[@ginoonig4126]

Wonder what kinda span you can get with a sheet

[@barrysmith5564]

Hi Liam looking at the kingspan roofing systems Does this help with maximising the hight as will not need 5x2 plus 18mm roofing boards Kind regards Barry

[@makolic1]

do you buy trims to finish of this type of roof or do you make something up yourself ?

[@runzareviews4188]

Any chance of that installation video for these. the company I’m buying them from says it’s hard to seal if you have an overhang.

[@overengineering5020]

Is there a noise difference from rain? From the two types of roof, you would think this would be noisy in a heavy rain.

[@Tom_Prendiville]

Finally a real roof 😉

[@mkay0077]

Looks good .. do you know how it is for sound? If it rains is it noisy ?

[@vajindertaak3158]

Not sure about the look, but a thumbs up if it means more headroom!! Is it load bearing?

[@davidbell3082]

Love your work and just fitted a hybrid roofing on my mancave after being convinced that it works without problems that we all know about the condensation debate, this roof system is good if you want that look or not borthered about what the roof looks like, going down this route is time saving ,but will it achieve the same u value than your original hybrid roof

[@arbit3r]

It will exceed it. This is a much more efficient system. Air tightness is excellent. Like a fridge

[@petebolland3337]

How does the water drain off? Into an internal gutter?

[@jrt0070071]

Liam, would it make sense to buy the "minimum bulk amount" that Kingspan sell and then package it up in smaller quantities that suit your build packs? Seems to be an all round win? Loving the channel as always... third build down... one to go... and that's just at my place!

[@angetodac]

Great! Is it allowed to be used for the house????

[@alan36753]

All other things aside I love the speed with which you get the info out, most others switch me off with their boring pace, unfunny anecdotes and dull waffle

[@misterjaypeasmith]

Are the walls raked? How do you deal with the fall?

[@raylonsa-ross9286]

these sheets need to be 4°? how does this work in with the hight.

[@12vLife]

Available and approved for Residential USA Florida Building Code on a primary dwelling? Meets wind, structure, energy and fire code?

[@MrB3ngy]

What’s the max un supported span for these sheets?

[@stimpie79]

Are you not concerned about noise? Rockwool absorbs a lot of sound, but sound will go straight trough these panels. So possibly not suitable for all situations? (busy road nearby, neigbours mowing grass, ..)

[@fireboyspirit3474]

How thick is it?

[@ChrisBarrett643]

Does this system allow you to gain height on the overall internal roof height?

[@rhyswilliams1998]

In theory that’s 60mm depth as opposed to about 140mm in the other system so should save about 3ninches. If you board and counter batten you might lose 2 inches off that though.

[@garethparry6673]

How much weight can they hold?

[@tompope9838]

Hello, did you make the full-detail installation video?

[@DukeofDave]

Awesome. Have been watching The Restoration Couple using something similar on their new build. Would this be okay on a 4m span?

[@fazstar4913]

Or a 5m span ? ☺️

[@petebrown9247]

I believe Tim did a section on span in the earlier vid when he put it up, I'm fairly sure it was less than 3m... Funny how channels get the same audience 😂

[@shandyooo]

It’s probably the lightest system. I would say it’s the best for large spans. My neighbour has a 6m span and it’s been sitting on 4x2 for about 8 years. No bowing yet.

[@fazstar4913]

@@petebrown9247 Certainly. Been following both for a long time now and thinking about starting in a month or so for my build 5x6m but with this roofing system I'm thinking the costs will decrease and also bring in efficiencies which I'm all about since I'll be building on my own.

[@christianmoore5595]

What about the AstroTurf roof look? Ideal if not concerned how it looks from a bedroom window but this is a step back in terms of style and finish as much more industrial look /feel. Also a bit queasy about putting more money to Kingspan after the Greenfell hearings. Power to the people ✊

[@antonyhawkridge8202]

Would this be OK for a 6.5m x 4.5m unit

[@pigstrotter79]

I'm in the process of building my our Garden room on my own. So its a labour of love. Anyway the tutorials are great, o thanks for sharing your wisdom. I really like the idea of the kingspan roof. But for the life of me I cannot find anyone who will supply small quantities of the stuff. I'm Essex based and have called most of the kingspan distributors and most of them don't know what i'm talking about. Also for further clarification did you use the Sinusoidal Roof Panel KS1000 SRW or the Trapezoidal Secret-fix Roof Panel KS1000? Many thanks

[@thegardenroomguru]

Wait until next month, all should become clear 😉

[@bradleyroberts5459]

Could you use that for the side walls and the back wall Thank you

[@davidbr117]

Hi I have plenty of 2.5mm kingspan, can I double this up to make 5mm, will it be okey to glue them together

[@Capo-xc1ji]

Keep an eye during the summer as this stuff does delaminate and bubble used to work for kingspan

[@georgerothwell]

Looks like a great product! Is there a reason why you haven’t continued to use these panels? It looks like your most recent videos are mostly rubber roofs?

[@andymac77vlogs34]

Cracking video again Mr. Griffin.... AT LAST!! For me this is turning into a vlog! Need my daily fix! 😘. Couple of things to ask you sir, does the new roofing system from Kingspan increase the internal height in a 2.5m build a little? And secondly, I would defo buy the rod pack off you. That would be awesome! I’ve already bought a build pack off you recently, so this would be a very welcome addition to starting my big project. Thank you. Looking forward to watching another video tomorrow! 😉 👍🏼

[@thegardenroomguru]

hey! not seen you comment in a while! yes internal head height can now be increased. We didn't on this occasion as we were not sure which build we would be trialing this on. Full installation video soon. Thanks for your support.

[@andymac77vlogs34]

@@thegardenroomguru ok thanks for reply. Forgot to ask also, does the new Kingspan roof give less rigidity to the roof as opposed to your 5x2 structure? i.e. just thinking could someone be at risk if they walked on the roof? Only asking cos if I install this roofing system in my property, it’s roof will be close to an upper tiered part of my garden where you could literally step up on to it! 🙈. By the way, I’m also the same guy who messages you occasionally on Instagram - andymacchalkboards. 👍🏼

[@paulpatterson1972]

Will this system mean more head room as the depth of the roof will be less ?

[@thegardenroomguru]

yes mate

[@paullister6246]

As always great video after some advice how close can I build next to my boundary if I have a flat roof? Cheers

[@timothysnelling7876]

What's your size of room?

[@paullister6246]

@@timothysnelling7876 it's only 3m x 2m

[@timothysnelling7876]

@@paullister6246 if it's no taller than 2.5m from the highest point of the natural lay of the land. There aren't distance requirements under Permitted development for that size. Do watch out for local area restrictions for instance Dulwich estate in London and certain other estates like bedgrove in Aylesbury for instance have some additional restrictions for sizes and distance

[@paullister6246]

@@timothysnelling7876 cheers thanks for the info

[@stephencollins7714]

What is the thickness, of the insulation? Wish I had thought to use these. You do sound a lot like Johnny Vegas, though :-)

[@garyharrisonuk]

I've looked at the website but couldn't see any reference to the maximum span. Where did you see it ?

[@brendonredgate2705]

Those fixings are called irius fixings mate just for future reference, composte panels especially kingspan are best on the market, if you don't like the roof finish you can batten it out and tile it for better effect

[@ShefferJoe]

What does the batten screw onto though? Surely it just has foam to screw into?

[@brendonredgate2705]

@@ShefferJoe battens fix through the top corrugations mate with some course tek screws you would be surprised what the top skin of the kingspan can hold seen this method on house roofs aswell

[@brendonredgate2705]

Kingspan also make tile effect insulated panels you can look at them on their website but can be quite expensive 👍

[@bradleyroberts5459]

Do you sell them or where can I get them from Thank you

[@owainevans2418]

What sort of price are those panels??

[@eoinstakelum2590]

Great video Liam, was something i was considering and posted in the fb group about. Thanks for answering my prayers 😂. Can’t wait to see the batten and fascia/soffit detail videos! Just wondering is there much difference in the noise level to this vs your traditional roof if it is pelting rain outside??

[@thegardenroomguru]

ill throw a hose pipe on it and see

[@jasonfrary]

@@thegardenroomguru That will help me to understand how the drainage works with them too. 👍

[@TheStoodc]

Looks great, looking forward to the video with more detail. I’m curious, the up coming build with the log burner, are you going with this roof or the rubber. Cheers 🥃

[@thegardenroomguru]

that will be the rubber roof mate

[@TheStoodc]

@@thegardenroomguru I’m looking forward to that one, looking forward to them all to be fair great videos 👌

[@phil2900]

Not a bad idea that as me as a home builder. It will be easier to work with. Thanks for all your tips and hopefully once I've built mine it will look as good as yours 👍👍👍

[@brendonredgate2705]

Tata steel do similar roofing sheet mate probably cheaper aswell. If you need a cladder I'm your man. 👍

[@jg_homecreations]

What are the spans for these panels?? Surely they can't be unsupported?

[@danielmorris2653]

Kingspan advise most designs have purlins at 1.8-2m as a rule of thumb, but it will depend on your wind loading and quality of fasteners. The installation guides show typical industrial purlin supports, but also the panels can be made at in 1.8m-29m lengths so it's partly illustrative. There is a load span table at the back of the datasheet: www.kingspan.com/gb/en-gb/products/insulated-panel-systems/insulated-roof-panels/quadcore-trapezoidal-roof-panels-ks1000rw Double battening and hanging

[@4D1989]

Is there a reason why you don't cut a full peice of celotex in-between the studs from plates to knoggings?

[@thegardenroomguru]

Yes mate, we use 450x1200 as it’s easier to manage and cutting it along its 450 is quicker and saves on waste

[@4D1989]

@@thegardenroomguru nice one

[@mikezoom42]

but what level of insulation comparison does it give? 100mm celotex? 50mm celotex?

[@MrFish1968]

I think the advantage here is there is no thermal bridging as you'd get with insulating between the joists.

[@mikezoom42]

@@MrFish1968 as most heat is lost through the roof, id say insulating was more important a consideration

[@KeithW78]

@@mikezoom42 most heat is lost through the walls...

[@MrFish1968]

@@mikezoom42 yes, I know that, my point was like for like 100mm of this is more is more efficient that 100mm of the same material in between joists.

[@krisbeaumont2147]

For people who have recently bought a build pack (me) will you be able to send the roof build step by step seperate if you create it?? Looking forward to the rod pack being available as well but first need to see if I win the raffle. Love the vids

[@thegardenroomguru]

If I create it, I’ll honour it for anyone that’s purchased as an additional note

[@alanmccowan5897]

@@thegardenroomguru I'm in a similar position as Kris, so the roof build addendum will be helpful. Also glad you're going to offer the rods etc in a pack, as I had a real tough job finding a metal shop that were willing to drill the holes in the shoes.

[@JamesBrett2008]

Can i use these insulated metal panels instead of a cold roof on a residential granny annex?

[@thegardenroomguru]

yeah insulated panels are fine on a high occupancy room.

[@JamesBrett2008]

@@thegardenroomguru Thank you for the swift response, much appreciated. Does an insulated roof panel mean no need for a cold roof construction? (hot roof is out of the question as we are limited to 2..5m). I looked at panelsells website and it says for agricutural or industrial use.

[@bradleypaul6343]

great work however I think your EDPM roofs look better

[@arbit3r]

Im guessing 60 or 80mm?