Intel i3-10100 CPU Review vs. AMD Ryzen 3 3300X, 3100, & i7-7700K Benchmarks

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[@skoopsro7656]

what the hell happened to that poor 7700 IHS?

[@skoopsro7656]

Intel removed ECC support from 10th gen I3s also. Previously that was atleast SOME argument for them in like a home NAS or something. Not they dont even have that.

[@Zarcondeegrissom]

binary naming, cuz they couldn't afford to let a lowly i3 have a hexadecimal name, lol.

[@vrealon7738]

Why do you render the charts at low res and upscale them? Intersecting lines have obvious signs of upscaling and the text didn't fair much better either.

[@terrycoder8328]

So it's looking like the rumoured i3 "k" cpu isn't happening. At this price point can't see going intel over Ryzen especially if you wait for a B550 board for future proofing to boot.

[@Zosu22]

Dear Intel, please stop artificially limiting memory speeds on your other chipsets. Regards, Everyone

[@devilmikey00]

But artificially limiting features is the Intel way!

[@mykhaylovarvarin9078]

"Artificial limits" is a second name of Intel

[@seraphis]

Cool guy AMD understands their product and how memory speed is so beneficial. They let you tweak memory on A320, the cheapest and probably most unreliable shit out there. Intel however, I doubt you'll ever see an unlocked memory B/H/Q board ever.

[@3rdGenGuy]

Intel has no way to Gimp lower end CPUs now. they used to delete hyper threading, but they can't do it anymore. so a $120 CPU can beat a $500 10900k in some games.

[@LukasLiwandouw]

They are not limiting it, they just want to secretly tell everyone that they cant push it any further

[@fissilepear7805]

The time stamps make these videos so much better since I can get right where I want to for the video. Thank you for that extra effort 🙏👍

[@davidbrennan5]

I wish every channel did this.

[@GamersNexus]

No problem. Just please remember to watch the other parts if you ever run into questions. The biggest problem caused by timestamps is when people post questions that are answered in sections they don't watch. As long as everyone knows to check those sections first, it's all positive!

[@kevkas]

@@GamersNexus that's a good point, they still are a great addition though, thanks for going the extra mile to add them, I appreciate them.

[@maYdaY1337]

@@GamersNexus why not watch the whole video instead then ? :D Timestamps only have one use for me. If i rewatch a video and want to find a specific chart or so.

[@briansutton1005]

Shouldn't we be listening to Intel's CEO and be focused less on benchmarks ;)

[@Brandon-xj4yv]

😂😂

[@wewwow710]

True

[@deshan79]

Feel the magic instead

[@naiasonod]

Just buy it. Just buy it. Just buy it. Just buy it.

[@haukionkannel]

Well we just think happy thoughs and think benefits... it is cheaper than 7700 was... So there has been some progress... and now something completely different... more benchmarks! :)

[@randocrypto1678]

If as a community we were able to get 1600 AF the official product name, I'm convinced we can also get this called the i3-20

[@JaZoN_XD]

Yesssss I agree

[@GhostlyGhille]

i3-X1 or X100

[@OMGJL]

as how officially you would call this CPU as ten one-hundred, it should be as i3 10 100, which is i3 2-4

[@mparagames]

@@OMGJL clever, but weird naming

[@thomasesr]

We first need to decide little endian or big endian.

[@Teletha]

oh god are we already here, my 7700K getting compared to a i3

[@gacekbd]

And still holds ground when OC, shame they did not show OCed 8700k when comapring to i5 10600k in graphs

[@St0dal]

Feels like yesterday, doesnt it

[@MiGujack3]

Aye, but I'm glad I ditched my i6-6600K when COVID hit, no true upgrade path.

[@abhishekmohapatra6617]

That too the lowest locked one

[@nicholasjoseph9062]

Went from i5 4440 to ryzen 7 2700x. Very happy.

[@Celician83]

You know, the frame time charts almost seem like Intel purposely released this before the B&H boards so that they would not be tested at stock memory frequencies, but with 3200MHz🤔

[@69mviewsnt]

typical snarky Intel. thank god for sending us Steve here

[@03jalapeno]

The 7700K still costs $350 new. I have wanted to upgrade my rig for years but the price just isn't right! I'm moving to Ryzen!

[@JerryFlowersIII]

Second hand is probably your best bet if you want that chip.

[@BeowulfCav]

That's why people that say buy a locked Intel CPU and buy a faster one later are braindead. Intel CPUs don't drop in price, you have to go to secondhand market and even then they hold their value. Meanwhile Ryzen CPUs just get cheaper and cheaper and get you most of the way there. No brainer, go with Ryzen unless you can afford the best from the get go.

[@mohdfaizal6773]

@@JerryFlowersIII 🌸choice is good. 😋👍💐

[@TheAndrewDET]

I wonder how many people are going AMD for this exact reason. It's infuriating seeing them sell more or less the same silicon for 5 years and forcing full system upgrades to get it at a reasonable price. I'd buy a 7700k right now for $122 (10100 MSRP). Instead I'm holding on until Renoir APUs and then buy, buy Intel.

[@tobiaspauli]

@@TheAndrewDET that's the exact reason I switched to am4, those used parts are so intriguing to me. Used intel part prices are just retarded the only other option is to buy a xeon

[@Zarcondeegrissom]

so, to keep the i3-10100 from stepping on the 7700k's toes, intel gimped it with lowe clocks, no boost, and maybe a platform that caps its memory to 2666. the result, the cpu performs worse than the 3300x that costs the same. that's product segmentation. lol. Great vid Steve and Crew.

[@Peterowsky]

It only costs the same now because it's basically out of stock, Ryzen CPUs (the 1600AF in the US notwithstanding because vendors there love price gouging people for even toilet paper) drop in price, while Intel... Doesn't

[@givemeajackson]

Intel doesn't sell the 7700K anymore, they don't care if it gets wrecked by an i3. The real issue is between the 10400 and the 10600K, which are the same cpu separated by more than 100 bucks and an unlocked multiplier. It screws the entire product stack below it, cause an unlocked 10100 would be right up there with the 10400 in gaming results

[@keset3316]

3300x is cheaper $2

[@ads2711]

in my country the 10100f is 95$ the 3100 is 120-130$ and the ryzen 3 3300x is 150-160$

[@ro_5907]

@@ads2711 same... was choosing between a ryzen and intel 10th gen.... But intel was just cheaper here in my place too

[@mikeclarke3990]

That 3300x just looks better every day.

[@bengrogan9710]

Amen to that. Looking to replace my other half's i5-6500 rig with one. I figure a reasonable 3300x and B550 build will do for a good few years. Then later down the line add a Zen 2+ R5 and use the 3300x in a htpc

[@timothygibney159]

@@bengrogan9710 I wouldn't bother. If you want to upgrade because you are experiencing micro stutter or lag in fps or in games which are MMOs like World of Warcraft it is because they use multiple threads. You will continue to see stutters on a 3300x. If you can save some more $$$ by the end of the summer when human malware stops disrupting parts get an i5 or at least a 3600x or 4600 which is right around the corner. Better yet a 3700x. The reason being is XBoxOne (next gen) will include 8 cores 16 threaded Ryzen CPU and all your games will use 8 to 16 threads. That 3300x will be obsolete FAST for these ported games. THe only reason games don't all perform like crap is Intel forced 4 core CPUs so long that porting xbox games requires developers to recode with less threads. Now? Why bother.We see it now in many new games like FarCry even if the overall fps is good the .1 lows suck on less than 12 threads.

[@bengrogan9710]

@@timothygibney159 More a case of stuttering due to lack of threads causing choking when she has chrome open when gaming and the microstutters in WoW I know from past experience with my old i7-3770k are fixed with the additional thread count since they patched in 8.1 Bear in min I said a 6500, not a K sku - the 3300x is a flat upgrade of all aspect even before considering thread counts As stated the 3300x is planned as an interim until the Zen 2+ launch after which its to transition to a HTPC itx once the 4600 actually becomes available as opposed to a paper launch - which I don't expect too soon since the info suggests the XT refresh coming to tide us over

[@xPandamon]

@@AM-mk3zc In germany both seem to cost about 130€, the 3300X is easily the better choice in that case

[@Crustee0]

Timothy Gibney nah games wont be using those 8 cores 16 threads soon, it will be quite long before it trickles down to pc and mainstream games

[@alistairblaire6001]

The ram frequency limits on Intel's lower end boards really hurts the value proposition of their low end cpus

[@clintonlane]

Here in Japan the AMD CPUs are much more expensive. The i3-10105 can be had for 18,000 yen while the Ryzen 3300x goes for 38,000 yen. I guess demand for the AMD CPUs has pushed the price up. It has been that way for a few years now.

[@junk1231231]

Got one for $89.99 today (Prime day sale + $10 coupon from AMEX). Definitely worth it at this price since I have never seen a 3300X in stock

[@ChargePositive]

bought this for a server and did not want to mess around with a gpu. The high clock speeds and 8 threads are a beast for what I am using it for and I am very happy with it

[@metallixro]

Theres one really awesome reason to buy the i3 10100: you cant find a Ryzen 3300X anywhere!

[@divoulos5758]

Actually yes and in my country now the 10100f costs less than the 3100

[@jeffho1727]

@@divoulos5758 You can actually find one???

[@divoulos5758]

@@jeffho1727 yes it's actually the best budget option in my country for 80€ is a vfm cpu compared to the 90€ ryzen 3100 while most other cpus can't be found at reasonable prices due to the shortages right now

[@marshalldteach3545]

YEA... 3300x is now 230$ rn.. i dont think its worth

[@grossly820]

@@syaondri its the retailers/scalpers and stock shortages

[@jinx3709]

I made up my mind, just waiting for B550M to land, coupled with R3 3300X, it'll be damn good entry level PC. Thanks.

[@lepari9986]

I bought the 3300x two days ago, amazing cpu if you mostly game.

[@Joker-no1fz]

get 5600xt with it imo.

[@jinx3709]

@@Joker-no1fz I already have a 2 years old RX580😁

[@mardolero]

​@@jinx3709 best card right now, just brought month ago used 580 to just wait till 2021 and then replace it with next gen gpu. Anything more just gives so little power to value to justify paying more

[@zangetsu6638]

and now the prices of the ryzen 3 are over $200 in the usa :(

[@noegthezemeraldghostie6287]

Why the hell did Intel knee-cap the cache on their CPU? Did they want their i7 6700 to remain relevant?

[@Peterowsky]

Can't have their new i3 beat their five year old i7...

[@bleem2951]

Is not only AMD that bin theyr chips, ya know....

[@MitternachtAngel]

Processors don't have much to offer anymore, it's getting harder and harder to upgrade at a worthwhile price. I bet manufacturers have no idea what they will do within the next 10 years.

[@timothygibney159]

They actually think people will just go oh darn I guess I got to pay for an i5 or i7 and give Intel more $$$. What they don't understand is post 2017 is AMD will be happy to take their money instead. Once gamers who are allergic to AMD as eww (many exist due to their past products) and switch they are more than likely to stay loyal to that brand. Intel is cutting the nose to spite the face as they want to keep Intel gamers who don't go to Gamers Nexus to be fanboys for life and that changes when you go Ryzen. Intel should at least make an i3K unlocked cache for budget gamers at this price and cut the cost of this CPU to $99 or something.

[@quintoblanco8746]

To differentiate it from the Core i3-10300. Market segmentation works. The Core i3-10100 is good value because of the inclusion of a GPU, the Core i3-10300 is a meaningful upgrade. AMD offers better value, but it's clear that Intel at this point can't compete on value or (multi-core) performance, so they rely on brand recognition, which is, at least for now, a valid strategy.

[@tarfeef_4268]

If AMD releases Zen 2 APUs, the locked Intel CPUs (at least until the max core count AMD comes out with) are so done

[@mohdfaizal6773]

Dats real good, as market options are good for us. Now I'm waiting for the embedded itx products

[@Tc4ify]

Yeah, 10100 or 10400 are still the way to go if you want a powerfull small form factor rig without a separate gpu.

[@fleurdewin7958]

Well, the 4700G (8C/16T) , 4400G (6C/12T) and 4200G (4C/8T) are coming real soon . It is the same silicon in the mobile Zen 2 , just adapted to AM4 socket use.

[@amariam4454]

@@fleurdewin7958 Dangg.... your comment litterally shut-up entire comment XD

[@tarfeef_4268]

@@amariam4454 I mean, there wasn't any argument to shut up, but okay.

[@realgenuinemakour]

Was waiting for this, just as in-depth as always. Good job guys

[@FreddyBoyBoy]

I love these type of videos comparing "old" vs new. Really helpful to see if it's worth upgrading now or wait another gen

[@btmedic04]

This cpu is now down to $99 and makes much more sense there. My dad desperately needed an upgrade from a core 2 duo e8400 based system and didn't need a dedicated gpu. This basically left me with the choice of the i3 10100 or a ryzen 3 3200g at the price point I was targeting. Paired it with a gigabyte b460m aorus pro, 16gb (2x8gb) crucial ddr4 2666 and a 500gb western digital sn750. My dad is more than impressed by it and calls it his super computer lol

[@claritoresdiano1021]

Dad : "Proud of my son."

[@GamerBoy705_yt]

Lol

[@LukasLiwandouw]

And spend 150$ for the Z490... yikes

[@neutruistv1666]

I’m glad you compared these because I haven’t seen many comparisons on old vs new

[@shadow_force]

10100f is now cheaper then the 3100 in eu, making it the new budget king (unless u want faster ram and a futureproof motherboard)

[@TheOliveboy93]

What is this future proof word even?

[@GamerBoy705_yt]

Future proof..

[@bwedges]

Just ordered 10105f to replace my old 300$ i7 6700. Thats not even with a z170 board which costs me 200 dollars to get a mere max 2666mhz C15 ram speed. Its bundled with b560m aorus elite for a total of 240$ bucks so i can both upgrade to 11th gen i7-i9 CPUs when 12th gen is out, and ram overclocking support. My PC will now have more life thanks to this. I checked on intel website and the only difference is the extra 2mb cache on the old i7. Basically i7 6700 3.7ghz@ 2133mhz ddr4 To i3 10105f 4.0ghz @3200mhz ddr4

[@TunaDad]

just picked this up for 90 bucks with a b560, insane value!

[@Warhammerdude299]

I'm helping put together a new computer for home use. This is purely an office computer, it is not a gaming rig. I originally had an r5 3400g for the APU, but then came across this chip. It delivers exactly what we want for a fair bit cheaper. It's great that the new AMD chips are where they're at, but we're not buying a graphics card. Great video!

[@wisdoom9153]

I'm laughing at intel used cpu market right now. Must be suck for those seller.

[@main_tak_becus6689]

But these intel cpus STP are higher than AMD in the same bracket. I'm waiting for 3300X performance on emulation, pretty dissatisfied with my R5 2600 performance on PCSX2

[@budiisnadi]

I found someone selling 4670k with a mobo for just $80 and it's already a hard sale.

[@alistairblaire6001]

People are still paying $200+ for older 4C/8T i7 CPUs on ebay..I think it's because it's still cheaper than buying new motherboard and potentially new ddr4 ram if you already own a z97 board or something. But a well kept secret is that old Xeons are significantly cheaper and can be a good value

[@Leowulfs]

You shouldn’t. Nothing against people that use Intel but there are genuine retards that think it’s the only thing they can buy. I’ve seen people paying for $170-200 for 7700k’s on Reddit and eBay. They’re brain dead.

[@SphyxGreifing]

Just sold my i5 6400 for $100 and immediately bought r3 3300X for 120$

[@drizztcat1]

There's no way Intel releases a K version of these parts at the same price as the non-K parts. A little bit of overclocking, and their cheap i3's are matching more expensive parts and they're cannibalizing their own market.

[@leafbelly]

Why would anyone release something that performs better at the same price? It's not just Intel. It's how markets work.

[@mikethespike056]

I remember how Steve Jobs said it didn't matter if a company cannibalized itself. Good guy.

[@hoodoofps]

Man am I glad GN exists. I value your opinion over anyone else in the reviewer scene ( you always rely on the facts to form an educated opinion.) Thanks for the time and effort you put into this channel man!

[@lepari9986]

You like Tech deals as well?

[@pneumonoultramicroscopicsi4065]

Now, in my country, the i3 10100f without the igpu is cheaper than the 3100 from amd, so the i3 is a pretty good deal

[@mikethespike056]

3300X sells for $300 here.

[@Vsevolod3788]

Now it's the best value you can get, at least here in Russia.

[@czbrat]

Steve, I think when reddit comments say ryzen is smoother they mean ryzen 5 being smoother than old i5's which didn't have hyperthreading (like 7600k vs r5 1600). But if someone says ryzen in general is smoother then yeah they're idiots.

[@daweitao2668]

Agreed, Steve says this every review video it seems but I haven't seen anyone say or write it for a long time, as you say it is primarily from the 1600 vs 4 core i5 days.

[@Cristian_Sile]

ryzen 5000 series are smoother in every single aspect

[@neithealebor]

İ3 10100f amazing cpu for price performance. No heat, low power waste and beastly performance for price, it's giving same performance with i7 7700k, plus better and perfected technology. Thats really good intel cpu. Use it with 6600xt or 3060ti you will have beast machine.

[@TheNiteNinja19]

Thanks to AMD for lighting the fire underneath the ass of CPU manufacturers. We would probably still be running modified i7 7700K's to this day.

[@LMBC6Brian]

Im still actually running a 5ghz 7700k with a 2080 Super, and there is not a CPU at any price that can give me more FPS at the 4k resolution I game at.

[@accelerator5524]

@@LMBC6Brian at 4k you should consider a faster gpu

[@accelerator5524]

@Yitzy i dont know why i wrote that xD

[@Pixelplanet5]

thanks for doing these great reviews, personally i will be buying a 10100 for my NAS so i have the option to also use the NAS as a media PC at the same time. i initially considered a 3200g but i also wanna run a VM here and there so having the extra CPU power will come in handy as well as having 8 logical cores will not hurt.

[@dokmetasonur]

I will do the same nas and media pc thing. Why did you choose 10100 over 3300x? They should consume almost same power.

[@Pixelplanet5]

@@dokmetasonur the intel CPU supports quicksync and i wanted to be able to do hardware transcoding on the iGPU so there is no other option then an intel CPU.

[@jackb4]

3300x is impossible to find rn so that could be a reason to buy it Also they are 120$ now

[@Centbair]

Ah, the Intel i3-20

[@BICIeCOMPUTERconGabriele]

It's incredible to see that even when Intel has some decent products, then they completely damage their appeal, with absurd platform constraints.

[@mpjones27]

this is why I bought the 3300x day 1 for the build I'm doing for a friend. knew it would be gone for a while

[@zacbaker3480]

In NZ we have B/H motherboards for LGA 1200 available now

[@GamersNexus]

Yep, you're right. We can get them here now as well. They were still listed as having a future date when we filmed this video, but looks like most retailers have them in the US now.

[@zacbaker3480]

Gamers Nexus oh yes makes sense. Thought we might have got something first for once, but at least we got rid of something (human malware) pretty quick. Hopefully everyone else is staying safe out there!

[@mohdfaizal6773]

Which board did you⛏️ pick up? 🙄😋👍

[@TheEternalDreamers]

“I’m going to go to sleep now” has to be one of my favorite video sign offs

[@R3dFiv3.]

I also enjoyed the occasional blooper / skit like comment that Steve would make, got cut out, but include at the very end. Almost like an easter egg type thing. I have not seen that for a very long while now.

[@OrbitalSP2]

The 3300x is out of stock everywhere!

[@345rvv]

And need a GPU card. Not fair compare 3300x with the i3 10100, for a good non-gaming pc is better choice intel. The ryzen 3 3200G, is inferior to i3 10100

[@Caedin8]

Hi! I bought an intel 10100 for a new rig for my parents. I needed the iGPU as they don't need a dedicated graphics card. They turn over a home PC about every 8 years so I felt like the 4 core, 8 threads was worth splurging for over an Athlon 3000g or other budget CPU. Lastly, they didn't want to migrate their existing home PC to a new hard disk, so grabbing a 16GB Intel optane drive for $20 and keeping the existing HDD was the easiest/cheapest solution to bring SSD level performance to their windows OS and frequent applications. I got the processor for $122 on Amazon when it launched and a B460 board for $80. Even though many reviewers have talked about there not being a place for the 10100, for me I think it was perfect. 3100 was a tough contender if I could have got it at $99, but they weren't available.

[@LS-oh8kv]

Is this a late post for Sunday or an early post for Monday? I was getting used to the 230 am uploads lol

[@JigsawCrisis]

@GamersNexus -- I ended up getting this part this year because of the GPU shortages. I have a family member that wants to edit pictures and some go pro footage on a budget. They also wanted a high resolution monitor to "see all the details" and have good color accuracy. This use case was almost... Monitor first and foremost... This CPU in a Mini-ATX board will make a great starter PC for them. Ended up spending just over 1000 USD for the whole system. Monitor of choice was the AOC CQ27G2 27" 2K monitor, and the onboard graphics will cover the pixels I they need. Also, the very favorable color accuracy showing in its rtings.com review was a great selling point. They will have 1TB of SSD, and 2TB on a HDD. A decent B460 board to get the started. And a decent cooler to one day make the leap to a better chip if desired. All said and done, they will have a great starter rig in a compact chassis, and room to get an actual Graphics card if they need it. That's why I chose the 10100.... I also could not find a AMD 3200G anywhere!

[@twoc400s5]

Looking at all the benchmarks, I'm pretty sure my i7-4770k with delid and 4.4ghz OC and 16gb of 2133Mhz DDR3 will STILL be better than the i3-10100. Ima keep my money.

[@bleem2951]

Why do you need a delid to get 4.4 GHz on a 4770k? Mine did that on air...

[@megarafjogos]

Also on the 4770k. Mine is delid, with arctic mx-4, waterblock sitting on the die. 4.8Ghz@1.47V, never goes over 60ºC on a 360mm rad. Performance is similar to my friends 3900x in games, both overclocked/watercooled and rocking the same rtx 2070 version. Also, don't forget they are playing on medium, in max settings even a 3770k can handle a 2080ti...

[@ArthurM1863]

@@bleem2951 4770k's are pretty bad overclockers

[@amariam4454]

​@@CallMePaine how much your maks cpu temperature ?

[@CallMePaine]

@@amariam4454 67C tops!! I'm at 4.3Ghz Vcore 1.32V. it's delidded and liquid metal.

[@nolanngo2652]

I just bought a 10100f because it was 69$ at microcenter lmao. Sticking it in a z490 mobo with 3600mhz ram until the 11th gen comes out

[@octapc]

@10:45 You can't give credit to Intel dropping the i3 prices when it was forced to. Credit is given for something you do because you want to.

[@GamersNexus]

People don't want to apologize for mistakes and often don't have to, but they get credit for doing it. Your statement doesn't hold up.

[@octapc]

@@GamersNexus There was no mistake in Intel price gouging through market control.

[@Simon-gc6uf]

@@GamersNexus His statement holds up quite well actually.

[@saashaa51]

So does AMD, AMD is forced to do aggressive pricing due smaller market share.

[@GamerBoy705_yt]

@@saashaa51 Yes.

[@v1asec]

So basically the conclusion of your test is pretty consistent with what I expected this CPU to be good for - office PCs with no dGPU. Still rather expensive for that use, considering a dual-core would mostly do the trick, but at least it's cheaper than Ryzen 5 3400G / 2400G and probably leads in the CPU performance.

[@gianluke]

The conclusions in these reviews are completely wrong after some weeks their publication because of price changes. For example, the price of the 3300X increased to a point where it is a quite bad deal. In Italy, it costs 10€ less than the 3600, would you buy it? The i3 10100 costs ~150€ which is, in my opinion, a quite good deal, compared for example to the 3400G (~150€). For less than the price of a 3600, you can get an i5 10400F. I don't see much convenience in buying AMD anymore. Many of the budget-wise advantages AMD had in the past have gone. For example, AMD motherboard are now as expensive as Intel's ones, if not more. As of July, B550s have ridiculous (expected) prices for being budget boards (above 120€). B450s prices (for ATX) are also all above 100€; they were around ~80-90€ some months ago.

[@makoto4341]

I have to agree, YMMV depending on where you are (i'm in south america), but i'm building a new pc and after reserving a b550m board (asus tuf wifi) i ended up requesting an exchange for a z490 (msi gaming edge wifi). Turns out that when i did the full math i could get an i5 10400f with the z490 mobo and 8gb ram for the price of a r5 3600 and b550m mobo. The motherboards where about the same, but the cpu was a lot cheaper and i was definitely surprised, always assumed it was cheaper to build an AMD rig.

[@chadrussell5903]

That's because Intel will always be the kings of gaming. Clock for clock, intel just outperforms amd chips, and people who defend them are the same fools that get knuckled into buying radeon graphics cards every new generation. You get what you pay for.

[@mikethespike056]

In Chile everyone bought AMD and the prices skyrocketed. The 3100 costs more than the i3-10100, that's not even the F version!

[@GamerBoy705_yt]

@@makoto4341 That's why you do research before you purchase something based on a trend.

[@maciejfulton7890]

Great video and I do have a use case lol. Low power 24/7 Plex server cpu. The 10100 seems like a good pick for using Intel's quick sync for tanscoding while still being able to run some Dockers and possibly a VM. Thanks for the power consumption chart, looked everywhere for one.

[@caboroth]

I knew the conclusion before I clicked play, and I watched it anyway. Is it safe to call this cpu DOA?

[@MiGujack3]

For us, yes. For people wanting a basic PC, it's an OK cpu.

[@haukionkannel]

We just wait price cuts... but no need. This will sell more than 3300x and 3100 together...

[@Sir_punchwood]

It will be a great improvement for people buying little dell and HP office units if the crappy little oem coolers can keep the temps in check. People will be getting old i7 like performance for a third or the price. And in 3-6 years people will be selling them and the used market place will make them into used gaming rigs and the cycle will continue. It's nice to see the markets work so well

[@kelvinyonger8885]

@@MiGujack3 But the athlons and low end ryzen are cheaper.

[@kelvinyonger8885]

@@haukionkannel Why?

[@DoubleD42]

Thx for always telling it the way it is dude, great video.

[@MatthewLabarbera]

man, i really need to upgrade my i7 3770 from 8 and a half years ago lol

[@trash3570]

ill take it lol, just got a 3570k and mobo for free

[@crispianchealuks2024]

with an oem rx 580 4gb and 16gb 1600mhz ram (dual channel), your cpu should have close to the performance in most games to an i3-10100, at 1080p medium

[@Corei14]

Nah wait for actual competition next year unless you upgraded you from 1080p, have high refresh or could use it for other workstation tasks

[@DualPerformance]

with that rx 580 will be unnoticeable the difference with an I3 10100 vs 3770, but I have a 1660 Ti with an I7 3770 4.1 ghz, and I can see the bottleneck in some games, in wot at max settings with vsync off, the gpu usage is around 85%, with an average around 140 fps, in fornite I also have a CPU bottleneck, with an average of 120 - 140 fps, it should go past 200 at low settings and it not happening, the good thing is that all games still run at solid 60 fps vsync on at maximun settings, the bottleneck is only in the case of a very high fps

[@deshan79]

I'm still using i5 2500k

[@tjstechub]

You can run the i3 10100f with 32000mhz memory on some B560 boards. Just an FYI for anyone that’s looking into this cpu

[@XerxezsX]

The 10100F is $69.99 at microcenter 😂 I'll just pair it with my 1060(bought it new on special for $169.99 Black Friday years ago) and I can play all the competitive games just fine, coming from an i5-2300😔 from 2012 $183. The i5 2300 plays games like WoW classic well over 100fps 1080p, HoTS too, etc, but It's showing it's age😂 time to upgrade 😂. I can't justify spending $300 on a 5600x + $100 on a good CPU cooler, makes no sense. Already have 500w 80+ bronze PSU, HAF 912 case, Crucial mx500 SSD, GTX 1060. If I get the 10100F $69.99 + $60 RAM, $70 Intel motherboard ($20 off at microcenter), total $200+ tax😂😂😂 At 1080P it will play most of the competitive games at well over 100fps at 1080p, that's all I need.

[@rickywidayana2592]

The price of 3300X is almost twice the I3 10100F's, and 3100 also priced $18-20 more expensive than I3 in my country. Ryzen is hugely popular here but stock is limited so the price is crazy. So buying I3 10100F is the best choice, maybe before Ryzen 3 5100 is sold here.

[@12100F]

*sighs* remember when we thought there would be a 5100?

[@Four-sc6gj]

Haven’t watched yet, lemme guess, Intel still suckin’ for the price, just not quite as hard.

[@TR.Pixels]

Pretty much.

[@eiterpet]

You can get this thing here in Germany at the moment new at the big shops for around 90-100 EUR. And this is, in my opinion, the best ptf-ratio you can get for gaming at the moment. Would not recommend anything else to friends on tighter budgets.

[@eiterpet]

@Jovica Jevtic you can still get a 3300x in Serbia? 😳 I was dumb enough to sell mine...

[@gohanmoka]

I'm currently living in Taiwan and they have a ton of 3300x's lol. I just picked up a Msi b450m mortar max and 3300x for around 180$

[@madtech5153]

gohanmoka z wow cheap with HQ motherboard

[@sophiethemasochisticninja7655]

In Denmark, that combo would be closer to 250$. And that is getting it cheap.

[@chillhour6155]

can you send me one of those cpu's ?, I'll pay for the shipping

[@sophiethemasochisticninja7655]

@Netluxe TV those arent because of out of stock those are normal prices in denmark

[@gohanmoka]

when i bought it the guy was like hold on. It took a little while and I was like crap they are out of stock. He came walking up holding like 20 of them to restock the shelf lol.

[@anoniem9518]

Before I even clicked this video, I knew AMD would be marketed by this channel as the best option.

[@casperes0912]

Gamer’s Nexus... The 4am show for me. You always upload at 4am... Then again, I only know that cause I’m always awake at 4am, so I guess swingers and roundabouts

[@lourencoalmada1305]

Yup... it's 3 AM, I have an exam at 10 AM and here I am watching benchmarks

[@mohdfaizal6773]

Nice, now to Live TV. And see the protests madness

[@casperes0912]

Lourenco Almada Good luck on your exam, pal

[@nix123ism]

A year on and you can't buy a 3100 or 3300, anywhere where I live , used to have a 3100, sold it , cost 220 and ended up buying a i3 10100f for 150, same performance as 3100 and alot cheaper, paired it with a mini itx with wifi,bt motherboard and very happy with it

[@GOONMOTORSPORT]

7700k still impressive, I keep mine until Intel come with 7nm cpu ...

[@Mikel02127]

See you in 10 years!

[@arifazhari7598]

I personally consider upgrading when my pc barely running modern games on medium setting. I guess it's a 6 - 8 year interval.

[@ArthurM1863]

Same partner

[@EchoConstellation]

Aha! I’m this person! I need quicksync for Plex/Jellyfin, so I’m stuck Intel with IGP. I play most my games on my Xbox, but my current “gaming” / Plex rig is a 6600K and 5700XT. It’s time to upgrade the CPU, and I don’t want to spend an arm and a leg since I know I’m getting a Series X. My option is either drop a used 7700K in my current rig, or buy the 10100 and a discount board. I’m 95% sure I’m going with the 10100 for the newer quicksync implementation and more modern board.

[@catriona_drummond]

I hope they launch a 10350K - that might be an interesting chip.

[@varun2440]

I don't understand how this channel has only 850k subscribers. Like Howwwwww?? I have been watching this man for four years now

[@A_z_z_y]

Please, please! Fix the Y-axis units on your frequency graphs. My eyes are bleeding looking at 3710 or 4240 MHz lines. Do not use always fixed 10 sections (11 numbers) on Y-axis graphs - make minor units multiple by 100 or 50 and vary number of sections !!!

[@dawienel1142]

Great review as always, userbench really lost it with this one though and what nonsense they spewed is misleading mainstream consumers. Something needs to be done about the blatant lying and misreprentive results of the userbench site.

[@misterringer]

The intel IGP's support 4k HDR. I don't believe the AMD APU's support it. This may be the ONLY use case that makes sense assuming your mobo has DP 1.4 or HDMI 2.0 or higher. An ITX media center. Beyond that, this CPU is trash.

[@MiGujack3]

Yeah, it's also important to consider the nerfed TDP (T) parts. Great for a super basic 24/7 server or HTPC.

[@Sir_punchwood]

@@MiGujack3 yeah, enough threads to multi task well and heat management shouldn't be too bad. They will be good media center and office work chips, that's about it though at the price

[@amariam4454]

yeah it's strange, RX 480 can do that both are same GCN RX480 (GCN 4.0), Vega 8 (GCN 5.0). could we ask to AMD ?

[@claritoresdiano1021]

forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/ryzen-3200g-does-it-do-hdr.18860325/ How about that ? can it answer your question ?

[@warrax111]

Seems for most i7 4C/8T users, way to go is to wait for B550, then go for 3300x, then next upgrade in 2-3 years, when games start to need 8cores, wait for DDR5 and next generation of zen architecture 6C/12T or 8C/16T.

[@aussieb5402]

I come for the intro, 1 chart, and the conclusion.

[@dsarnson]

Thx for your reviews! You keep saying don't pair the 10100 with a z490 board, but I am doing exactly that, but only for upgrade-ability. $99 for the 10100 for decent gaming fps, and when the 11th gen drops, prices for higher end 10th gen should decrease, at least I hope so and we can choose to pop in a newer faster chip if needed.

[@rapasco8184]

Seems like the 3300x is still the best option in this price class. Such a beast

[@345rvv]

Yea and need a GPU, and the mobos with chipsets to ryzen 3000 are more expensive than chipsets intel 10th generation. Not a fair comparisson. For a good non gaming pc, i3 10100 is much better (in performance/cost)

[@jimmahT]

My mat arrived this morning. Looks and feels great!

[@KaloyanBratoev]

There is a new budge CPU release from intel i3-10100f, would you have it for reviewed ? Looks like decent for low end and it should fight against 3100 or 3300X

[@frankdolores6199]

I3-10100f = $80 R3100 = $120 In my country

[@purplegill10]

As a guy currently looking into getting the 9100F, there is a potentially ultra-specific use case I can think of: Low wattage single threaded performance. Right now I have the very odd problem of having a power limit from what I can take from the wall so I only have about 250 watts MAX I can get with all my parts. Moreover, I run PCSX2 emulation a lot which is almost entirely bound by your single threaded performance numbers. Without buying an entirely new system, the x100 parts from intel fill an interesting gap where I can use some of my old parts and still have an upgrade compared to my old cpu. In almost any other use case (gaming, streaming, video editing, rendering, etc) the intel pales in comparison to its competitors except specifically in PCSX2 where single threaded performance is more or less the only way you can get better frames. Given my cpu power budget, the only other processors out there that can come close are pentiums, MAYBE the 3100, and an athlon. In that specific case the 9100, and likely the 10100, absolutely blows those other ones out of the water even if it's a pretty hollow victory given the price.

[@troyn14]

Meanwhile the 3600 is 159 euros in the eu making every and any intel part irrelevant :D

[@mattevans1643]

In the states i saw it for as low as 140usd. So yeah, intel need to figure some shit out.

[@usoppbarbosa981]

If in stock :) I haven't seen it available in any online retailer here for the past 2 months. Only today did i find one at 211€. But if you can find it at MSRP yea it's a no brainer.

[@zeus1117]

This CPU is now only 99$. Really good!

[@mattevans1643]

"It's pretty fast ram, it 26six 2666mhz" It'll definitely hold up for Battlefield 5.

[@santiagoferrari1973]

Verge ? Are u antisemitic?

[@mattevans1643]

What does quoting the Verge on a PC build have to do with hating Jews?

[@dwaynewhite2014]

I subscribe to this channel, however only occasionally watch the videos. Every one I have watched though, including this one are very informative and go deep into detail that I appreciate even if I seldom grasp every detail being thrown at me. Reason I am commenting is that this video and the other one I watched regarding the Ryzen 3 1200AF both plugged the RTX 2060 KO by EVGA. A couple months back I bought the RTX 2060 KO Ultra for my son and he is pleased with the card. Of course, to him, his assessment is that it's "better". So go figure......... Anyway, I wanted to say that while I am pleased with the 2060KO Ultra, I am not pleased that EVGA did not honor the $20 MIR Visa card offer on it. When I purchased the card, I dutifully sent in all the paperwork and then a couple weeks later got a post card indicating that my submission was inaccurate and I did not qualify for the rebate. To my shame, I tore up the post card and did not follow up. That is my bad and I figured the effort to fight for a $20 MIR Visa was not worth the stress. However, seeing this card plugged twice in 2 Gamers Nexus viewings basically opened an "old wound" if you will. So I figured I would just comment on my disappointment on not receiving my rebate. Now obviously this did not destroy my world, nor does it even put my off buying anything from EVGA in the future. I just know I will not consider a rebate offer as something they will honor or something I should consider as a benefit to my purchase. Other than the rejection mailer from EVGA, I still have copies of all my paperwork and even a scanned image of the UPC that EVGA claims was erroneous. Anyway, this video was excellent. Thanks to anyone who took the time to read my diatribe.

[@GamerBoy705_yt]

Now, September 2021, 10100(F)/10105(F) are the best value in the low end budget segment. You can pair it with a B560 board for around $100 instead of a Z490 board too, for memory overclocking support without spending much. These chips are underrated and no one has yet reviewed 10100F with a B560 board which have become pretty cheap these days. LTT didn't even review these chips, what do I expect from a shill?

[@xtlm]

I just bought the 10105 non f for 90 bucks (Missed out on an open box for 71 by just a smidge lol). It's going a budget build for the parents, I don't see a problem with it.

[@ncg8224]

This is what competition gives you guys. I wish there was this much competition 10 years ago!

[@bluebandit5586]

AMD made a $120 cpu outperform intels top dog from 2017 Proud of my fellow engineers at AMD Wonder if Linus still wants to kiss intels toes

[@jeffreypaul9428]

If you were getting that fat check from Intel like Linus is, you would too.

[@mohdfaizal6773]

Lols.💐😆 Dizz😋👍😅

[@wysetech2000]

Blue Bandit Yeah, you should be proud of a 2020 CPU beats a 2017 CPU. Makes sense!

[@hofnaerrchen]

My mother would have been a typical user for this cpu - she used a i3-3120T for quite some time (up to this year) in a prebuilt HP system, playing only CIV5 on a 1280x1024 screen and doing some basic stuff like email, surfing and office. Now she's on a R5 3600 with my old GTX970, still using the 1280x1024 display but also playing CIV6 now.^^ I think the i3 will most likely end up in OEM systems for office use.

[@syrrysaver2775]

Plex transcodes use the iGPU for QVS which makes these feature sets start to look compelling for home server/htpc applications. And at current price points on older hardware...

[@SidawiKhaled]

thinking about buying it because Ryzen 3 3300X in Canada is more expensive than Intel i3 10100

[@v33nod3]

I can see myself using this CPU in a headless media server (Plex, or otherwise). The iGPU + QuickSync combo is a transcoding monster that simply blows all AMD offerings out of the water. That's about it. For everything else, AMD is absolutely killing it right now.

[@harurosech.4848]

Found it at 80 euros(90 dollars). At this price it's good competition for the 1600AF, but if you consider the motherboard (B450M for example) the costs are similar enough that Overclocking and RAM frequency matter more..

[@bhaveshnande]

Thanks for the review, I am planning to buy this CPU for my first build (non gaming, no graphics card) as it appears the demand for all AMD Ryzen CPU's is too high. Costs are as follows here in India. Do let me know if I can do anything better with a CPU budget of 11000 INR -- ~150USD. I really do not want to go with older generations. i3-10100 -- 9850 INR -- 133.41 USD i5-10400 -- 14950 INR -- 202.48 USD R3-3100 -- 8525 INR -- 115.46 USD R3-3300X -- 12999 INR -- 176.06 USD

[@SpaceLion949]

I have an use case for this little one... Powerful office PC, it offers R3 3100 like performance and comes with iGPU. I just built a PC for my cousin for education purposes and light gaming on the side (Rayman Legends and 2D games mostly), 3200G wasn't available but I ended up really liking that i3 because he can use the PC as it is with the option of adding a discrete GPU in the future if needed, also 4 more threads might come handy.

[@TomHenksYT]

Awesome review, great to see actual numbers and performance comparisons for a part that, on paper, looks to be basically equivalent to AMD's offerings but in reality it's not. If the conclusion is that the i3-10100 only makes sense if you want a somewhat-cheap CPU with integrated graphics, I'd be curious to see how it stacks up with a Ryzen 5 3400G. I suspect the i3 is probably faster in terms of CPU-only performance, but for gaming using the iGPU, the 3400G is probably going to be much better. And let's not even think about Ryzen 4000 Desktop APUs yet, because those are still quite some time away.

[@brianv3ntura]

Well I just bought a prebuilt itx system(without gpu) with a z490 mobo, 32gb ram and 10100. Sure the 10100 is a complete waste in a z490, but I ended up saving about $150 vs piecing the system myself. I am coming from a b85 1271 v3 matx build, so I felt like buying the itx prebuild was a very good upgrade for future purposes. At best my new system would be more of a lateral move, but now I have a much better upgrade path once the 10th i5,i7 and i9 k processors get cheaper later on.

[@CaptainScorpio24]

thats how one shud olways built their system

[@JayzBeerz]

B460 and H470 boards should be put in a pile and burned. Put this on a B560 or H570 and it is a great 4 core gaming CPU.

[@saxophonescott94]

I bought this CPU specifically for iGPU hardware transcoding on plex running on Unraid. Can do plenty of transcoded streams and is super low power at idle and load. Got it on sale for $100 and $20 off in a bundle at Microcenter.

[@fajarn7052]

Nice video Steve! One thing I wanna ask, and maybe a suggestion for a video (or is it already exist?). I own an R5 2400G and planning to upgrade soon, I'm considering the 3100, 3300X and 3600(as these are what my budget allows), or maybe the new upcoming Ryzen APU. Can you make a pure CPU capability comparison of Ryzen APUs, maybe after the release of the rumored new Ryzen APU, and include other Ryzen chips benchmark data too if you can, thanks!

[@APhamx7]

Hey. So I'm unfortunately one of the use cases that need to buy intel over amd for an igpu. When building streaming PCs for others, my friends wanted their system in very small form factor with no space for a pcie/dgpu. Intel quicksync is enough to stream 1080p60 and 4k through a usb 3.0 capture card and we bought a 9600k over the 2700 for that reason. The 9600k (although unfortunate not having threads) and at $150 was what fit the niche. AMD's APU unfortunately did not have enough power at 4c/8t (3400g) and leaves the user with no room for further upgrades if doing heavier streams. E.g. we can upgrade to a 9700/9900k down the line.

[@andersjjensen]

The 4700G is right around the corner, so there would have been an upgrade path to 8c/16t and 8 Vega cores. But if the current offerings didn't have the grunt I see your point.

[@zososldier]

One thing I found kind of interesting about the 10100 is due to its comparability with a i7 7700, people that are running CPU intensive systems like home built security camera computers, the super cheap 10100 allows the building of a "recommended spec" 10-30 camera computer for almost half the cost when compared to 2-3 years ago. Back when the 7700 was current, you had to run around a $700-900 CPU/ mobo/ memory combo. With the 10100, b450, and 16gb ram it's only like $300 to run programs like blue iris. The 10100 also does better than the new ryzen 3100/3300 due to them not having intel quick sink.

[@christopherdunn5799]

For what it's worth, I got my R3 3300X on May 26th (with large QTY in stock) at an prominent Canadian retailer/e-tailer for MSRP. I hope the situation improves for my neighbours soon..