Intel i5 4690 vs AMD Ryzen 5 3600 | GTX 1070 | Test in 19 Games + 2 Apps

[@Red_Horizon]

I have i5 4690 paired with gtx 1660 ti. Bottleneck most of the AAA games. RIP 4 cores cpu in near future

[@Allen_2033]

The same here. Think ryzen 3600 Will be the New purchase

[@polarmirage7682]

But your config is enough for playing every game on high so i dont know what do you complain about dude

[@hewhobringsthenight9907]

lmao im still rocking my i3 7100 dual core

[@s4rcasm428]

Nice test of 1070! Thank you!

[@fujigames]

A word of advice: if you're testing CPUs, it's better to use low settings. A lot of your tests have similar frames rates because the GPU is maxed out.

[@AdverseGecko3]

Yes, I know, but I wanted to test with the graphic settings I usually play =)

[@Milosz24PL]

@@AdverseGecko3 Who play in low?

[@AdverseGecko3]

​@@Milosz24PL People who want to get the maximum fps possible and the minimum latency possible, for example =)

[@erikbritz8095]

he tested the correct way i own a i5 4690 just for gaming and im upgrading either to a 1070 or 1080 so this vid really helped in choosing which cpu and which gpu i need.

[@ahisay7423]

​​@@Milosz24PL i5 and GTX 1070 if play in low setting it feel wrong right..😢 must be something wrong /bottleneck

[@eligaller9190]

I have the k version of the 4690 overcklocked to 4.6GHz and paired with a rx480 nitro+ 8gb (weaker than a 1070) i experience stutters in ac:origins, rottr, sottr and exactly like in this video i get stutter almost always when the cpu hits 100%. 4c/4t even overclocked to 5GHz can't render newer games smooth, but for 4-5 years it was the best gaming cpu i ever had.

[@AdverseGecko3]

I wish I'd the K version to at least reduce the stutter a little bit, but if you experience that with a RX480... I would have had also stutter on most recent games. But for a CPU that cost me 200€ 5 years ago, it did an awesome job.

[@eligaller9190]

@@AdverseGecko3 vsync is a good way to reduce stutters. Your gpu will be under utlized but you will get smoother frametimes, your cpu will not be forced to push as high fps it can on permanent 100% load. Depending on your monitors refresh rate it will be e.g. 60Hz/30Hz (in my case)

[@simplemarks3420]

@@eligaller9190 I got my i5 4690k to 5ghz with 1.5 volt, yea not sustainable.. I get 1.375v and 4.6ghz kinda easily but past 2020 games really need that 6 cores at least

[@sushantgupta2498]

i5 4690k can be overclocked up-to 5 ghz ?? Is it possible. ??

[@eligaller9190]

to achive a 5ghz oc you need to delidd the cpu. even with 4.6ghz the original contact paste under the ihs becomes the cooling bottleneck. @@sushantgupta2498

[@scotchwhisky6094]

I'm going from a i5 4590 to a i5 10400F. Should be a huge boost in performance and remove all the stutters!

[@pops7249]

So, how is it

[@Oozaru85]

6 years later, and this is all we get at the same price point (~230€)? Thats not even 20% performance increase. After 6 years! This is really sad...

[@scaron1320]

Thanks ! Don't listen the other guy, i have actualy a 4690k and I will change for a 3600, thanks for your video it helped me a lot

[@iuribills]

Good video I have a 4690 and just ordered a r5 3600

[@Syndicate0031]

A teoria só vê fps. Eu SEI o tanto q meu 4460 trava nos jogos.

[@RichLifeStories]

I just wanted to say, you probably get a lot backlash from making a video where the two CPUs arent even in the same league. I just wanted to say thank you! Im experimenting on an ITX build and right now an Intel system is cheaper. I have a 3200g in my first ever Pc built but i would also like something more portable. So a cheap itx build with a i5-4690 will do until i can create a built with a 3000 series gpu.

[@lucasbrittoferraz]

amigo, a gpu ta limitando o 3600 maior parte do tempo, o certo é deixar os games no low, para poder mostrar o real desempenho de cada cpu, mas top parabéns pelo vídeo

[@erikbritz2637]

So im 20min in and can say 1.)the i5 4690 for games is still great if matched with a good gpu sadly tho you will have to hold out with stutters from time to time 2.)the R5 3600 is only the way to go if your planning on rendering etc. In the future 3.)my person i5 4690 boosts higher then the one in the video for some reason meaning i might get a slightly smoother experience and 4690K users with an overclock might too. 4.)for anybody wanting a upgrade hunt around for an i7 4790K and you will already boost performance by as much as 20% everywhere and more so overclocked and on certain boards with overclocked Ram example 1833mhz DDR3 other then this maybe hold out for two years and save up then build a new setup with whatever mid to premium CPU is out.

[@danwarb1]

You have to lower resolution and graphics settings to compare the CPUs. The GTX 1070 is the bottleneck in most of these tests.

[@SIPEROTH]

it's bottleneck for the Ryzen CPU but i doubt a 1070 can bottleneck a 4690.

[@LucasTowers__]

Gracias por esta review, si bien me tienta comprar un 5 5600x para actualizar mi pc, creo que veré la nueva generacion como viene!

[@Renekor]

Miedoso -.-

[@gergovigh9882]

Win win fps, i5 cpu drop.. :)

[@FischToaster00]

Good Video! Thank you!

[@kalashnikov4742]

Worth upgrade in 2023?

[@AdverseGecko3]

TL;DR: No, get an Intel i5-11400f. Long answer: Right now (at least here in Spain where I live) there is no point on getting a Ryzen 5 3600, because it is still listed for ~180€, and currently there are better and newer options. Right now, if you want to go 100% on AMD I would choose the Ryzen 5 5600 (~160€), but there are better Intel options. If you want the best CPU quality/price/performance ratio, I reccommend the Intel i5-11400f (~120€). Or if you want a little plus of performance, the i5-12400f (~170€), but I think it's not worth the extra 50€.

[@dinordenton7269]

Амуд. Запустилось 😂

[@DemonLordGamingAC0]

I liked the video because It's basically comparing the first iteration of my PC vs current. But I had to dislike because you're running graphics benchmark, and running games on high settings. It's good to show that the 4690 can still be used nowadays but it's decieving because the GPU is causing a massive bottleneck on the results

[@AdverseGecko3]

But I'm not LinusTechTips, I don't have access to a 4090 or a 6950XT. At that time I had a 1070 (now a 1080), I upgraded my CPU, Mobo and RAM, and I wanted to see the difference with the settings I usually play those games. Also, you have Cinebench and 3DMark (on this benchmark you have the regular benchmark AND the CPU stress benchmark). I know there are others like Geekbench, the CPU-Z test, etc. Or I could have even tried tried a video rendering test, but that was not my main focus of the video, the focus was gaming. And there is actually 4 games with low settings: CSGO (with a 4:3 stretched resolution), CoD Warzone, Fortnite and R6 Siege. FPS games are the only games I play with low settings. The rest I usually play them with highest graphics as I don't want more FPS, but a higher quality.

[@erikbritz8095]

whats really weird is my 4690 somehow boost and stays at 3.89Ghz in some scenario's when yours stays at 3.7ghz meaning my performance might be slightly better hmmmm still building a secondary pc with a Ryzen 5 3600 next year tho.

[@AdverseGecko3]

With only 1 core working to the fullest it can boost up to 3.9 GHz, with 2 cores to 3.8 GHz and with 3 or 4 cores to 3.7 GHz. I tried to "overclock" all cores to 3.9 GHz, but I never succeed. Only with some modded BIOS you could get 3.9GHz all cores, but I never tried it.

[@erikbritz8095]

@@AdverseGecko3 hmm maybe the guy i got the pc from boosted it but it moves between 3.7ghz to 3.9Ghz no matter what game or program i'm using hey im not complaining tho maybe im getting 2% more performance from it thing is i'm watching your vid to see the vast gap between the R5 3600 and i5 4690 meanwhile in most games its not that big but in productivity its quite extreme so yeah building another pc with the R5 is probably a good idea.

[@ahisay7423]

Try test both of them in Hogwarts legacy.. you will see some magic

[@hater_ss1930]

Good comparison processor 4 thread vs 12 thread. It would be better to compare 1 threaded versus 16 threaded processor

[@ZXspectrum..]

Good effort but you should have tested with a more powerful GPU to see when the i5 is at 100%. But regardless the 4690 is still a CPU that can play almost all games at 60fps and the 1070 is a good match but better with the 3600. The ideal card for the 3600 would be a 1080ti

[@AdverseGecko3]

If you give me a 1080Ti I will test it =D

[@Hot_since97]

So you say i5 is still relevant in 2021 ? I am considering to buy it, the price is 75 euros, so any information would be helpful :)

[@ZXspectrum..]

@@Hot_since97 the i5 4690k played rocket league at 100fps and Witcher at 60fps and destiny 2 at 60fps on high settings , you will struggle to play modern games at 60fps on high settings but on medium on lots of titles ok. Best paired with gtx1060 I would say..

[@galaxytraveler5779]

I just dropped $1000 on that 3600 from my i5 4690 (including new RAM and motherboard.... what a complete fucking waste of money

[@Leo-rh6rq]

This is a gpu bottlenecked benchmark. Nothing to trust

[@Flutteragon]

Why fortnite have such stutter? I play on G4560 2 cores 3,5 Ghz and dont experience something like this, on other videos fortnite works normal, interesting.

[@AdverseGecko3]

Yeah, it was quite strange. Battlefield V, Fortnite and both Tomb Raider were the only games I couldn't play properly, but Fortnite was the only one with that horrible stutter. Also was the only one with an always 100% CPU Usage and low GPU Usage. I'm pretty sure that this poor GPU usage made the CPU push even more and made that instability (even the mouse movement was quite choppy). With a lower spec GPU like a 1060 or 1050Ti could have been better.

[@budgetking2591]

I just bought a i5 4690k for 20 euro's, thats 10x cheaper then ryzen 5 3600 but only 10% slower LOL

[@MadFaker]

GTX 1070 is bottlenecking the CPUs at doing 100% load. The relevant benchmark here is the Cinebench Benchmark at the start of the video. For AC Odyssey look at the CPU usage I5 is around 100% and R5 3600 is around 40% only.

[@portman8909]

I don't believe this benchmark for a second but then again it's a gpu bottleneck here.

[@enkidu001]

It s hard to believe what you see, right?

[@SilverMusicAndGaming]

When you test games on ultra you won’t really see that big of a performance difference with two CPU’s

[@swdeadpool1129]

1st of all why compare a cpu from like 2k13/14 to a cpu that came out in 2k19?

[@AdverseGecko3]

Because I upgraded the CPU and wanted to see the differnce

[@Sebapops]

Que placa de video sería la perfecta para este proce y que funcione todo bien sin cuello de botella?

[@AdverseGecko3]

La RTX 2070 Super (o la futura RTX 3060 / RTX 3060Ti) seria lo ideal tanto para 2K @~80/100fps como para 1080p @+144fps. Y para 4K incluso la RTX 3080 aguantaria sin problemas.

[@Sebapops]

@@AdverseGecko3 No hace cuello de botella con el i5? yo porque tengo el i5

[@AdverseGecko3]

@@Sebapops aaah para el i5, pensé que decias para el Ryzen. Con mi GTX 1070 el i5 hacía cuello de botella. La tarjeta ideal seria una GTX 1060, GTX 1660 o GTX 1650.

[@Sebapops]

@@AdverseGecko3 Gracias por responder amigo !

[@esdeathraido9973]

I have the i5 4690 with gtx 1650 super when i did ultra in odysse it was 7 fps . But in some video ryzen 3600 with gtx 1650 super in ultra it aroud 45-50. Should i buy the ryzen i will se a big difference ?

[@AdverseGecko3]

Some games like Odyssey struggle with a low core/thread CPUs, so with the Ryzen 3600 you will get a massive extra performance. So if you want to play Odyssey smooth, it is a super recommended upgrade =)

[@esdeathraido9973]

@@AdverseGecko3 thank youuuu so much bro

[@adeebhumayun3229]

should I upgrade a i5 4590 to a r5 4500

[@AdverseGecko3]

I wont reccommend this CPU imo. The Ryzen 5 3600 has a better value: PCIe 4.0, 32MB L3 (24MB more), and the most important, has a better performance. And at least here in Spain, the price is the same for both chips, ~70€. And the upgrade for that price is just superb, although you will need a new mobo (You can find decent B450 for ~85€, or if you want B550 for ~115€) and DDR4 RAM (16GB 3200MHz for ~40€)

[@adeebhumayun3229]

@@AdverseGecko3 and what if I say I got motherboard processor and 16 gb ram for 110 USD

[@AdverseGecko3]

@@adeebhumayun3229 That changes everything, huge deal!

[@adeebhumayun3229]

@@AdverseGecko3 IKR, Hopefully everything comes out perfectly. It has been shipped, I'll update once it's up and running.

[@adeebhumayun3229]

Received and setup both of them, a noticeable bump in performance, watch dogs legion used to average at 28-30 and it's now at 49-50

[@krauserpistola6360]

Ótimo vídeo! 🇧🇷❤️

[@КрасивыйУрод]

Why when i translate your comment on russian,Brazilian flag changes to USA

[@maximilianoguerrero9817]

hola, tengo un i5 4690 sera necesario actualizarme? o aun le queda vida quiero pasarme a un ryzen 3600 o 3500x pero en el video, vi que no hay tanta diferencia, igual es un gasto es grande, placa, proce y ram para 15 a 20 fps que dicen amigos ?

[@AdverseGecko3]

Desde que tengo el Ryzen 3600 estoy encantado. Son solo 15 - 20 fps de diferencia, pero parece que son 30 o más. Si te fijas en las comparativas donde hay gráfico de FPS (donde más se puede apreciar es en la parte de Batman Arkham Origins, F1 2018 o los Tomb Raider), puedes ver que hay muchos picos de FPS con el i5, en cambio, no los hay con el Ryzen. Solo por eso, parece que estés jugando a muchos más fps por la fluidez, ya que la CPU no se satura para nada. Si tienes una GTX 1060 / RX 580 o inferior quizás no lo notes tanto ya que la GPU no genera tantos FPS y no satura la CPU. En ese caso, supongo que podrás aguntar algún año más. Pero en mi caso con la GTX 1070, al generar bastantes más FPS, la CPU se ahogaba, y creaba un cuello de botella horrible. Se puede ver fácilmente en títulos que consumen más CPU (como CoD: Warzone o Battlefield 5). La CPU está al 95-100% todo el rato y la GPU a veces no llega ni al 80%. Espero haberte ayudado! =D

[@Milosz24PL]

@@AdverseGecko3 How is direct 12 battlefild 5?

[@AdverseGecko3]

@@Milosz24PL The fps are a bit lower and not stable at all, expect 5 fps less or something like that

[@Milosz24PL]

@@AdverseGecko3 How fps rtx 3080 and i5 4690? I buy rtx 3080 to i5 4690k

[@diaco226]

@@AdverseGecko3 hola vos decís entonces que vale la pena el paso? Tengo una i5 4590 y estoy pensando en el r5 3500 que opinas? Tengo una rx580

[@kevinshart836]

Sooo ryzen 3600 is better than I5 4690?? I am thinking about getting a vr

[@AdverseGecko3]

Absolutely!, a CPU of the same price range that is 8 years newer is always a better option =)

[@civotelezd6045]

@@AdverseGecko3 6 years

[@Balkancuga]

So practically the same FPS.

[@AdverseGecko3]

But a muuuuuch more stable frametime

[@Balkancuga]

@@AdverseGecko3 I still dont have problems with i5 4690 honestly, its not worth the upgrade still.

[@AdverseGecko3]

@@Balkancuga not for you, but for me is an incredible upgrade as I work with multiple Virtual Machines and the extra cores are crucial for that. Gaming is an extra thing that I wanted to test, but not the main point of the upgrade.

[@Balkancuga]

@@AdverseGecko3 Oh yeah, Ryzen 3600 is alot better for rendering and stuff like that, but for gaming its still not needed for a year or two.

[@civotelezd6045]

@@AdverseGecko3 but for gaming there is no reason to upgrade

[@MrHuge-dt4yt]

Is it oc?

[@AdverseGecko3]

Nope, both stock. But on my last video (Resize BAR On vs Off Comparison), I have the Ryzen 5 3600 at 4.2GHz undervolted

[@LucaMucci13]

Stock cooler?

[@AdverseGecko3]

Nope, I have installed a Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition

[@Milosz24PL]

How is in 4k?

[@AdverseGecko3]

Haven't tried any game (except Forza Horizon 4) since I only have a 1080p display, but with this GPU recent games will probably be quite unplayable. In Forza Horizon 4, to take screenshots, I get like 35-40 fps at the Highest Quality

[@hachirokuae8657]

It will be same, in 4K GPU is more needed

[@e7sence]

nice fake hahah

[@beratsbs5012]

Fortine fart 💨

[@макссила-к5н]

упор в видюху же, нет? разрешение опусти или видюху мощнее тогда увидишь разницу

[@TheSand07]

Я думаю тут гением не надо быть, чтобы понять что 3600 намного мощнее, просто по факту никто не будет играть с 1070 на средних настройках и получается, что как бы большой разницы в играх и нет.