Intel's Last Single Core CPUs...

[@TimmyJoePCTech]

I copied your video sorry., but I did give ya a lil shout out :)

[@FullyBuffered]

Thanks man! :D

[@isaacvinsonios7343]

Yep I was there and NONE went and checked out his channel :( I subbed to him tho

[@neilychoppers841]

Maybe back in the day, these cpu's would have been fine in an inexpensive HTPC setup. Informative video, subscribed.

[@FullyBuffered]

Thanks man!

[@SpikeTheBear]

There is something oddly sayisfying about torturing these chips with things they were never meant to do, nice vid! The slowest chip i ever had to deal with was an old amd dual core, never had the displesure of running a single core :p

[@FullyBuffered]

Thank you!

[@HTXJoseRosae]

Turion X2 , they were slow, all they did was convert cold air into hot air

[@averyoldYoutubeuser]

Yessss

[@cosmic_drew]

Timmy Joe sent me. Subbed as well!

[@kwlkid85]

This is the last single core desktop chip but Intel still made a few single core mobile chips after this. There's an Ivybridge Celeron 947UE for example.

[@AshTechCorner]

Nice video man 🙂, maybe this CPU was the answer to the Sempron 140/145/150 from AMD. Curious if these celerons are failed/bad Pentium or i3 chips salvage. This Celeron is probably good for a basic file server could potentially run it passive and also get quite a good undervolt

[@FullyBuffered]

Thank you!

[@intel_celeron_d_326]

Actually yes, Intel has a binning style where they take silicon and see if it performs enough to classify as an i7 for example, if not it’s an i5, and then i3, then Pentium, then Celeron, then Atom. If it can’t qualify for atom, it’s thrown out. This is a rough example so take it with a grain of salt.

[@bassblaster505]

Grew up on a Socket 478 single core Celeron on a Windows XP Machine. you could move the mouse cursor around the desktop and watch the CPU usage go up 6%. But oddly enough there was also a time when THAT was able to play a 480p youtube video.

[@Tc4ify]

Back in 2006 I was able to play KZbin videos (honestly can't remember the resolution) on a P2 266, lol

[@mrwang420]

These cpus would have been great for making high end versions of 90's pcs and running 90's pc games.

[@F2FTech]

I guess there’s a reason I had no idea these CPU existed... great video man!

[@FullyBuffered]

Thanks Mike!

[@TimmyJoePCTech]

Miss you man ;)

[@jaypormei1881]

I found similar with that CPU likewise, Intel Celeron G460 found at POS machine. I worked as part-time job of repairing and dealing broken machines as well as POS. Mostly Pentium and Celeron G series comes with single core that is good enough to run basic kiosk programs.

[@latebloomer2]

That is why I am disappointed when maintenance section in where I work as IT, without any consultation, they installed some electricity meters for the production lanes, with a 2 cores 2 threads Celeron powered Intel NUC for displaying the electric usage as real time generated chart in a web page... The Celeron run 50% just for running the Edge browser, and when we push windows update on it, it freezes it for few minutes. Windows 10 needs at least 4 threads to make it usable.

[@averyoldYoutubeuser]

Interesting that these Celeron can work with DDR3-2133, I always hate the Sandy Bridge DDR3-1066 capability, at least it should be DDR3-1333 and I'm pleased when Ivy Bridge came out with DDR3-1600 capability

[@wishusknight3009]

I picked up a 440 and 460 from ebay a few years ago just to add to the collection. The 460 ended up going into a Nas box with Truenas and it seems to serve ok there, though performance is limited, its good enough for its task, and it is undervolted with a - offset of nearly 2 tenths, which allows it to be passive cooled. So its just great for this alone.. The 440 served well as a terminal for a bit and proved upto that task just fine. So these are some use cases

[@BlindingWulf]

This is still faster than my school computer

[@Olivyay]

at 3:51 you can see that KZbin uses the VP9 video codec which that Radeon is too old to decode in hardware, so you're not using the GPU at all for video acceleration which is why your CPU was at 100%.

[@GregoryShtevensh]

Awesome video! 👌 Way more interesting than seeing what a 4090 does with a 7800x3d ngl! This sort of niche stuff just seems to be more entertaining for me

[@enzomeister]

You should do multicore benchmark on it :P

[@simonupton-millard]

Wonder how meny NAS drives had that chip? Mine runs on a quad core Atom cpu wonder if the Celeron is slower or faster? Good chip for a Point of sale or cash machine system or similar industrial or single use PC where low power / price and reliability is king

[@drumsmoker731]

A chip made for professional applications, where buying used (and better) hardware wasn't an option. I can imagine it running a room reservation schedule in a hotel or a surveillance camera system.

[@FullyBuffered]

I could indeed see chips like this have found their way into stuff like surveillance systems or a simple HTPC.

[@fishrsa9046]

The fastest pc i ever had was equipped with a 3.06ghz pentium 4 LGA775 intel cpu. It was faster than my 3ghz celeron(in the same motherboard), 2.6ghz dual core(also same mobo), and my 1.8ghz twin celeron cpu server. It had 768mb DDR 400mhz ram and three 80gb IDE hard drives. it booted win7 in seconds and i remember booting san andreas multiplayer so fast i thought the game crashed because the black screen only came on for 1 or 2 seconds before it was open(in 2010!). I still use the twin cpu server today because my other stuff has died and i cant afford a new pc. I didnt know there were newer, slower single core cpus made after those ones

[@paulwilliams4274]

@fully buffered I found your channel via Timmy Joe PC Tech's video. I subscribed!

[@FODTony]

great video!

[@FullyBuffered]

Thank you! :)

[@jevgenijobzigailov2376]

Such CPU could also be used in routers, I remember Pentium III 450 easily distributing 100Mbit Internet to 200+ users under m0n0wall with maximum 30% load. Its 10W consumption allows fitting it in 1U switch case with 40mm fan or just passive heatsink.

[@kawafahra]

The 2.6 Ghz Pentium 4 C was my first gaming rig CPU, and i overclocked it to 3 Ghz. Did it help with fps ? I found out what fps were when i discovered fraps - years after the overclock.

[@AshtonCoolman]

I'd do some early to mid 2000s gaming with these

[@AmstradExin]

I have an Atom Netbook, similar specs. Atom N475. For the low power, it does what it has to just fine. Computers are not just for games, boys. :)

[@itzamedave6242]

I still have a G640 2/2t in my retro XP gaming rig with HD3870

[@LeoLijo]

Well not surprising to see a low spec cpu like that it was probably used ins embeded stuff and maybe in a sbc if they existed back then celerons are still used in those kinds of things now

[@sharoyveduchi]

I like what you've presented. However I think it would be much more fair to run more period accurate software. For example, I would at the very most run Windows 7 and some popular but slightly older games from the time period like Left 4 Dead 2 or Team Fortress 2. Not only that, I would also see if it could run Windows XP (assuming there are drivers for it) and more importantly FreeDOS. In DOS, everything is single-core and single-threaded. You don't need any fancy instructions either like SSE or AVX. A clockspeed of 1.8 GHz would be amazing if you were planning to run a bunch of DOS applications or games without buying period accurate hardware. The only problem is that you probably wouldn't be able to find a compatible soundcard, especially for MIDI playback.

[@RuruFIN]

I remember having a G550 as a temporary solution back in 2013 when I moved from AM3 (965BE) to LGA1155 until I got a 2500K. At least G550 was somewhat okay as it was a dual-core. :D

[@Ktotokroto]

Sat on G550 for almost 10 years. It was an... Experience

[@denvera1g1]

I've been working with an older couple to troubleshoot their computer from 2016, it was a single core AMD processor with........16GB of RAM. It said it had SMT (1 core 2 locical processors) but maybe it was a dual core and windows saw it as single with HT It actually ran surprizingly well for a single/dual core AMD processor of this era and i just figured it was like an A4-6300 4 core 4 thread Darn, i thought i took a screen shot of the task manager but it seems i just used my phone to take a picture of the CPU pegged at 100% and it only using 3.5 out of 16GB

[@kingeling]

CPU for Office work/home media/public use devices for information

[@malcolmmacdonald3597]

Could be a viable option for a very cheap Windows XP retro gaming rig

[@averyoldYoutubeuser]

Yeah true, such a shame for the LGA1155 socket released in 2011

[@kasimirdenhertog3516]

Interesting question indeed: why did Intel produce and sell a single core chip at a time when they were already obsolete? Looking at some specs, it seems these Celerons use the same die as the larger chips. So perhaps the yields for Sandy Bridge - being the first of a new architecture - were quite poor and Intel figured they could still ship the ones with just a single functional core. Also telling is the G470 is the last Sandy Bridge to be released.

[@marcoescamilla8856]

I'm thinking of getting cpu for retro pc gaming seem good for some classics

[@johnkristian]

pop filter, pop filter, pop filter. AND high pass filter on your mic. When you scuff the table, my subwoofers goes bananas. WHY CAN'T KZbinRS DO AUDIO RIGHT?!?!???!?!?!

[@Hlupa722]

3:45 I think Win10Pro its overkill for this single-egg CPU. In my opinion with Win10 LTSC this stone start feeling themself more normaly and painless, without all useless service

[@TheSimonarne]

could potentialy work in a diy router or nas but i would probably buy something more recent that uses less power i think

[@spookie1012]

Did the speedometer 2.0 with my 12700kf and got 301 runs per min

[@kleingib213]

I would have used Windows 8.1 since it's designed and optimised for 2012-era tablets with awful Atoms and 1GB RAM

[@POKEMANZZ3]

if i had to guess, these chips probably where an attempt to salvage a bad yield of chips. you see it from time to time, like AMDs dual/tri core phenoms originally where bad yield quad cores, but had 2 or 3 working cores, so AMD just disabled the bad core and sold them as dual and tricores.

[@iplyrunescape305]

TBF though Windows 10 is full of bloat, this CPU was probably much more bearable back in the Windws 7-8 days. My first laptop ever with a Core 2 Duo was blazing in all of my time using Windows 8.1 on it AND with just 4GB of RAM. Granted all I did was run a few games and browsed. But I did use some software that didn't feel too sluggish, it was all fine. Of course the problem came when it was to play heavier games. But overall it was very usable. Come Windows 10, and it can barely browse without being at full utilization, and now 8GB of RAM is barely doable on W10. It's very more at fault, than the CPU is. Yes of course, it's better to have at least a regular i3, but just saying due to your points saying why intel released such a cpu in that time, it was just more useable on Windows 7 and 8.

[@harryshuman9637]

It's like prime hardware for low-power NAS.

[@fxgamer-11yt]

I wonder if u brigde some pads on the CPU if you can overclock it some

[@FullyBuffered]

That's an old trick which really only worked on Core 2 Quads where you could freely increase FSB. With Sandy Bridge and on that ability became severely limited.

[@fxgamer-11yt]

@@FullyBuffered also works on 8th/9th core series chips to get them in older z mobos and there's also exon that accept the mod you can also do it to a lga 775 board to make it use xeon chips and over clock the snot out of them two old school way of over clocking chips or by passing motherboard lock down to certain chips do have to find a modded bios to make it work tho but the lga 775 trick you don't really need to do it

[@kamerat7689]

This make the original Celeron 266 look extremely good.

[@chloedevereaux1801]

funny how EVERY YOU TUBER forgets the core solo's... you know the one's before the core 2 duos.

[@sumuduranathunga]

It's very slower than my old Pentium D 925 beast!

[@cortezbaldur413]

Imagine a core 2 duo destroying a far newer CPU. I know c2d has twice the cores but the single core comparisons show the c2d is still faster.

[@evandrochaves9596]

I live in the middle of nowhere in a 3rd world country, these processors coincide with the best era that PCs had here, circa 2011~2014, so working with tax and finances management software, I deal with a lot of PCs with this processor paired with 2 or 4 gigs of ram, by this era you could afford no problem a new pc with current gen, nowadays a current gen pc is probably more than double the price from that time so most people still keep their 10 year old pc running a non updated windows 7, told my boss to order a ton of i3 2100 and i5 2400 that are fairly cheap and can give a new life to these machines alongside an ssd, just like 60% of the cheap new pcs which most of our software costumers buy, always a chinese h61 mb with an i3 2100 and an unbranded cheap and unreliable SSD

[@JohnSmith-iu8cj]

Imagine how bad of a bin these silicones have to be

[@TechnicalIssuesOfficial]

Atleast i have 2!

[@LGEEZZA]

I used to hate Celeron too much, ooh

[@bramvandenbroeck5060]

The core solo is also a single core cpu :p

[@averyoldYoutubeuser]

The shame is they are released in 2011, yes, in 2011 Intel still release these things out, I believe its clearly a silicon reuse

[@tatreteam3423]

I stil have I7 4790k xd

[@chrisrudi7162]

Good for overkilled Windows 98 Retro System 😁😁 Supports one CPU only...

[@severussnap4373]

timmy joe said you were cool , ill give you a shot

[@itsmenoname2247]

im watching this video on a intel core 2 quad Q6700 cpu works great

[@SprunkCovers]

Add a GT 210 and you have the ultimate ultra low spec machine!

[@Cooe.]

Should have used Windows 7. That was your critical mistake here.

[@FullyBuffered]

It really isn't a mistake. Even on a much older single core Pentium M machine I got identical results with W10 (albeit an older version 1607) and W7.

[@juanmshaw5617]

ExplainingComputers' son.

[@nvidiafun5906]

Xd czemu ja widzę komentarze z przed miesiąca lub roku?

[@JohnSmith-iu8cj]

and I thought the g530s I have are bad 😂

[@QuillAlpha]

my core 2 duo e7400 better than a c2q qx9300 :O

[@robdom91]

Can you play games with a single core CPU? Sure! You can play catch with it, if you have a dog.

[@92_miata]

Man is using a trial of minecraft. how???

[@floycewhite6991]

Atom tablets.

[@cosmefulanito5933]

That crap is made to sell to OEMs, who make computers that are also crap. But they are cheap. And with deception in advertising, people generally don't know and buy this crap.

[@John-McAfee]

This is a nice torture device. I'd go mentally insane trying to use this.

[@arnislacis9064]

These Celeron Single Core CPU's are e-waste.

[@mrbilly5282]

E

[@williamcricket7931]

You look like Vladimir Putin

[@dokt9304]

sorry, but too british for me tbh :|

[@FullyBuffered]

I am Dutch

[@give_me_my_nick_back]

wow, why? what were they thinking? Back then single cores have already been obsolete so I struggle to imagine what was the target market and why whoever wanted some slow CPU did not go with some Raspberry Pi and likes

[@andrepohlon1283]

Imagine trying to use the G440 at 1.6GHz and without HyperThreading. You'd probably have a better computing expierience with a Pentium 4 at that point (which is rather sad considering these chip came out in 2011). Then again I could see these chips being useful for something like a simple file server or similar applications. Anyway great video as always 👍

[@FullyBuffered]

Thanks André! Yeah the G440 wasn't Intel's finest work, to say the least...

[@dabombinablemi6188]

You'd be surprised. A Pentium M at 2.13GHz is as fast as a P4 at 3.2GHz, so a single Sandybridge core is still going to be far faster at 1.6GHz.

[@nikolakarovic5964]

@@dabombinablemi6188 Yep but P4 had HT

[@dabombinablemi6188]

@@nikolakarovic5964 ...that was needed to keep up with Pentium M. It's hard to understate just how bad Netburst was compared to anything derived from P6.

[@nikolakarovic5964]

@@dabombinablemi6188 PentiumD 900 and 800 dualcores are power hogs but they could run win 10 and youtube, Core2Solo (PentiumM) couldnt run KZbin last time I checked. Personaly I dont know for PentiumHt 478 socket and ddr1 didnt have touch with them for 7 years.

[@dj_paultuk7052]

These Celeron G's were typically used in Cash ATM machines and shop POS systems. For that task they were just fine. Low wattage and heat output are a requirement for ATM machines are they are typically in sealed boxes which are also normally in a sealed room with no ventilation.

[@arduinoguru7233]

Pentium E2180 are way better than this in terms of performances stability and good power consumption

[@Fee.1]

And they’re still sitting in those systems and signage etc. to this day, in many cases with a blue screen error

[@dragogos]

@@arduinoguru7233 The E2180 isn't quite the best for embedded systems. The Celeron has a TDP of 35 watts, but the Pentium has a TDP of 65 watts. Keep in mind that back then when the Pentium E2180 was released, it was Intel's mid range CPU and it's basically a cut down Core 2 Duo.

[@paultheacer269]

Wow really? Man the world really loved intel and they still do!

[@averyoldYoutubeuser]

@@dragogos yes true, the 65nm "Allendale" series which the e2180 be in is significantly hot, I bet the real TDP of them is much higher than 65W. The simple example here is that I can actually run E5700 (45nm, 3GHz, 65W TDP) WITHOUT any coolers on it, barely exposed to the air while the E2140 without coolers will immediately shutdown 10 seconds later after bootup or even shorter because of overheating, the same goes with pentium 4 like 515, 630,...

[@PixelPipes]

Oof! Even at that cheap price, I don't think they were cheap enough considering they were almost useless even in 2011/2012. But it does make for entertaining video fodder!

[@1NIGHTMAREGAMER]

Issues were no cache on cpu

[@virtualtools_3021]

@@1NIGHTMAREGAMER and no core on cpus

[@1NIGHTMAREGAMER]

@@virtualtools_3021 sorta these chips had like 1 to 2 mb cache like a 90nm cpu When higher end chips had 6-12mb so windows immediately overwhelmed it And bad pipeline was badly designed

[@Sarah_Kinz]

Why is no one talking about the most obvious use for a single core CPU? Minesweeper and pinball ☺️

[@DJdoppIer]

That Celeron G440 would probably still lag while playing 3D pinball though. Such a cursed piece of silicon.

[@itsmijail]

@@DJdoppIer But... Can it run DOOM?

[@DJdoppIer]

@@itsmijail Can it run it? Yes. Can it run it *well?* No.

[@Vladislav888]

@@DJdoppIer doom was developed for 486

[@razorsz195]

It would be really tempting to grab the base spec sandy bridge celeron and put it head to heat against my socket 754 semperon at the same clock speed, see how much IPC "improvement" there would be compared to a chip 6 years older

[@evandrochaves9596]

Socket 754 sempron 2600+, processor of my first pc from 2006 haha, fond memories

[@guily6669]

@@evandrochaves9596 You can easily check CPU benchmarks from PassMark... -Intel G440 1.6GHz overall score: 425 and Single Thread Rating: 743; -AMD Sempron 2600+ 1.8GHz overall score: 253 and Single Thread Rating: 325; So off course is much better than such old CPU however none have any performance at all not even for 2011 at least not for a normal desktop use, only good for other crap, embedded stuff... EDIT: Forgot to add for fun that currently at this moment in time the top tested CPU there has a general score of 96999 points (threadripper Pro 5995WX) and the highest tested single thread is 4405 (I9 12900KS), so far from that miserable score (the threadripper technically would be around 228x more powerful than the G440 on that benchmark on overall score)😁 For last the Threadripper now also cost even more than 228 times the price of the G440 back then so it's actually not even a good deal 🥳🧐

[@DJdoppIer]

That Celeron G440 is definitely the most unlovable cursed CPU of all the 2010s. A single core without hyperthreading??? Fucking yikes!!! Even AMD (which at the time was really struggling) didn't make anything that pitiful back then.

[@igors_lv]

when doing stuff like that I would recommend testing period accurate OS, like win 7 or win XP Also low wattage CPU like this probably would do OK in file server with some 4-8 HDDs, backup NAS or something similar, running Linux probably.

[@andreewert6576]

Please explore it for retro gaming. Can probably boot win 98, and it should slay anything that runs on that. The challenge would be finding a PCIe or PCI graphics card that is a) cheap and b) supported under 9x.

[@monkeslayer-km5ho]

Intel bulldozer: netburst/prescott Intel zen: conroe Amd bulldozer: bulldozer and all architecture based on it Amd zen: zen

[@ahmetrefikeryilmaz4432]

My first cpu was a p3 733. I gotta say the software of the time was quite happy with what they had. I got a 3900X now, I am around 70% even when streaming...

[@ProjectPhysX]

3:24 that is not a testimony of how slow that CPU is, but how inefficient and sluggish software has become. A simple website should not max out any CPU core. It's bad programming on so many levels.

[@uglybad4]

Tangentially related, I love reading and learning about techniques that developers of older games would employ to make the most out of the limited hardware they were working with. Anybody who wanted a game to stand out and run halfway decent would have to put a lot of work into optimization and clever programming; it was almost an art form unto itself. Modern hardware has thrown that aspect of game development out the window, if you want a game to run well as a consumer, you just have to brute force it by throwing better hardware at it.

[@ProjectPhysX]

@@uglybad4 totally gree! Back in the day you had to master code optimization to make software run well on the old hardware. Prime example is the legendary fast inverse square root algorithm.

[@FatheredPuma81]

Yea modern Minecraft has some crazy requirements. Gone are the days of running Minecraft on onboard graphics from 2004.

[@GrulbGL]

i had a celeron 420, with 1 gb ddr2 ram about 15 years ago, this thing give me horror even today

[@The-Gougar]

I think installing win 10 on this thing was a mistake, 7 or 8 would have been less bloated.

[@potatoes5829]

But its funny

[@IvanOoze1990]

Just found out today that my amd Kaveri APU dual core is actually a single core, I ran cinebench and was very confused about it showing 1 core 2 threads and after looking into it I guess the bulldozer core lie applies to my APU as well. AMD should be ashamed of themselves for how they marketed that CPU, 6 cores it says... 2 cpu cores and 4 graphics, Yet... Even thats a lie. I never thought it was a six core, but can only imagine how many people did.

[@skate6788]

I was surprised how you have only 2k subs, i am pretty sure if you keep uploading you will reach 100k at the end of the year :#

[@FullyBuffered]

Thank you!

[@ViperBenchmarks]

cool video :D

[@lucasward9506]

its weird to think that for $35 I can get a whole ass raspberry pi that can whoop this thing's ass.

[@sirkastic]

I always wondered what happened to Choda Boy

[@Jason-fp7vi]

Awesome video

[@FullyBuffered]

Thanks!

[@TechTechPotato]

Celeron 🚀 to the moon

[@FullyBuffered]

🚀🚀🚀

[@ruikazane5123]

What in the world...the core clock gave it away. Embedded systems might find a use for that along with those micro PCs the size of a brick that are usually seen as mass deployment units at schools and other places that benefit such deployment. For the era it would be at least decent enough with Win7 for that purpose...even with the dreaded "Intel HD Graphics" at 1366 x 768 which is a common screen resolution for the time.

[@JohnStopman]

Cool: the Celeron G465 (35 Watts) has an average passmark score of 525, my Celeron 3350 (6 Watts, dualcore) 1128 :)

[@TheAtom0]

Well a cpu is a cpu if this cpu was able to clock up to 4ghz or 5ghz it would like to have an dual core cpu

[@cosmicusstardust3300]

I think the only people that bought these things were corporations needing a cheap throw away office computer these CPUs are only decent enough for doing web browsing, emails, and office apps. (even that's still iffy lol)

[@wakesake]

Its a good cpu for retro gaming , try using it on win xp i bet it will be pretty good