Intel, you’re doing it wrong. - Intel NUC 12 Review

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@WaLApA117
@WaLApA117 2 жыл бұрын
Had me at the stealth Alchemist GPU-hopefully that would be uncloaked soon.
@ElectricBlakeGames
@ElectricBlakeGames 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone should subscribe to the commenter haha. Blow up their channel for no reason! Edit: Actually their content is amazing
@vedaryan334
@vedaryan334 2 жыл бұрын
You didn't see it because you are unworthy. Only if you were worthy enough because I saw the whole thing in its full glory in this video . But godspeed to you ig
@WaLApA117
@WaLApA117 2 жыл бұрын
@@ElectricBlakeGames I actually release garbage on my channel once every decade as a hobby-unless you're joking or being sarcastic, I fail to see why my content is "amazing."
@WaLApA117
@WaLApA117 2 жыл бұрын
@@vedaryan334 no biggie, us low-level peasants will be able to bask in its glory in due time.
@doingwithdave6608
@doingwithdave6608 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I am so excited to see the new gpus from intel
@portalwalker_
@portalwalker_ 2 жыл бұрын
Just a question: Is the gravity in Canada somehow much stronger than everywhere else? Because you guys seem to (almost) drop expensive tech quite frequently
@39zack
@39zack 2 жыл бұрын
Naaa that's just Linus
@portalwalker_
@portalwalker_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@39zack Wow, Linus isn't that heavy...
@DwAboutItManFr
@DwAboutItManFr 2 жыл бұрын
Ironically enough the place with thr least gravity on the surface of Earth is located in Canada.
@chanhjohnnguyen1867
@chanhjohnnguyen1867 2 жыл бұрын
It’s part of the joke
@raymeekss
@raymeekss 2 жыл бұрын
easy to be careless when you have the money to replace any of it
@xekhan7713
@xekhan7713 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so dissappointed that they put "Paste Piracy" instead of "Paste Privateer"
@resentfulsoulofthetoilet589
@resentfulsoulofthetoilet589 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly, not many got the history joke... Time to drown my sadness in Captain Kidd's Punch
@dimlightbulb10
@dimlightbulb10 2 жыл бұрын
@@resentfulsoulofthetoilet589 Written History made an adaptation of Wing Commander?
@dannonyogurt98
@dannonyogurt98 2 жыл бұрын
"Reusing thermal paste is the exact same thing as piracy. Literally the exact same thing. Ppl will still do it and I've been guilty of it at times, but we just need to be aware of the impact- LS"
@munjee2
@munjee2 2 жыл бұрын
@@resentfulsoulofthetoilet589 while it is a history joke, it's more specifically a reference to WAN Show from a few weeks back
@Pakistani890
@Pakistani890 2 жыл бұрын
Its really good to see that intel is embracing the right to repair in these compact pc's unlike apple who glue's everything together
@madlad25
@madlad25 2 жыл бұрын
@Telegram only👉@LinusTechTips0 omg omg omg SHUT UP BRUV STUPID BOT
@PZ-VH
@PZ-VH 2 жыл бұрын
Uh do u know if the nuc 12 comes with a dedicated gpu or not
@user-rh7pk7ys6m
@user-rh7pk7ys6m 2 жыл бұрын
@@PZ-VH why would it be able to comfortably game at 4K without a dgpu and what kind of igpu would be able to do that
@ADMONIUS
@ADMONIUS 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-rh7pk7ys6m For real like what was his point? 😭
@Raxtus3106
@Raxtus3106 2 жыл бұрын
@@PZ-VH it’s right there wthin the first 30 seconds wtf do u mean
@Burssty
@Burssty 2 жыл бұрын
Intel NUCs have always been a weird fixation for me. They have a value proposition that just never makes sense, but that makes it even more tantalizing
@YKSGuy
@YKSGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Space / quiet (at least for a typical NUC), if you value SPACE they are very good.. There are AMD alternatives and generics out there but I broke down and purchased one at the slight premium and I am very happy it sits on a small shelf and runs server stuff for my home.. Tin
@ArchusKanzaki
@ArchusKanzaki 2 жыл бұрын
The engineering is so creative that I kinda want to pick one.... but its reaaaally difficult to justify the price
@alexdavis9324
@alexdavis9324 2 жыл бұрын
@@ArchusKanzaki the justification is the Form factor. If you don't need small Form factor no matter what a SFF build is not going to be cost/feature effective
@verqu3450
@verqu3450 2 жыл бұрын
They are kinda like vaio or alienware
@coaxill4059
@coaxill4059 2 жыл бұрын
@@verqu3450 Except with a product that while seeming unreasonably expensive, is of an impressive standard of quality and innovation.
@unattributed1641
@unattributed1641 2 жыл бұрын
I'm confused, what's the "doing it wrong" part? I don't see anything in this video to convince me that there's something wrong with this system. Even the price proposition doesn't appear to be too bad, which is typically the weakest point for most mini-pc's.
@dannonyogurt98
@dannonyogurt98 2 жыл бұрын
Click bait.
@t800-t4c
@t800-t4c 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to KZbin !
@destinacecilia4422
@destinacecilia4422 2 жыл бұрын
Linus is an intel shill wouldn't be surprised if Intel actually sponsored this video...it's click bait he wants you to think he's questioning intel but it's actually an ad for intel the whole video is linus advertising the nuc as a super dooper amazing great absolutely packing top tier tech inside lmao i gotta stop watching linus this guy just too much at this point.
@ribstogo12
@ribstogo12 2 жыл бұрын
Yeup. Why I disliked the video.
@mandaloretheproud6622
@mandaloretheproud6622 2 жыл бұрын
@@destinacecilia4422 Don't know how he would be an Intel shill. He has seemed quite positive about AMD while criticising Intel a lot during the heights of Ryzen's dominance.
@R1987R
@R1987R 2 жыл бұрын
So, I don't understand the title of the video. This is an awesome machine and i hear almost nothing but praise in the video. The video did lack some gaming performance stats, how are the fps on this thing?
@derrickmelton5844
@derrickmelton5844 2 жыл бұрын
If I am not mistaken, the joke is that every other company that offers some mini-workstation like PC is both overpriced and has poor specs. So compared to the competition; they are doing it wrong. It is basically a dig at everyone else.
@fredmerizen
@fredmerizen 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like I'm missing a joke here. How is Intel doing it wrong?
@matejaem
@matejaem 2 жыл бұрын
Mainly a clickbait, but also a shade thrown at Apple for popularizing unrepairable design where everything is soldered on (Mac mini & Mac Studio), while Intel is offering a fully modular PC this size, hence “doing it wrong”
@TheMiig1513
@TheMiig1513 Жыл бұрын
This should be pinned lol
@isub2fgctubers940
@isub2fgctubers940 Жыл бұрын
I think its mostly cause they're using a "compute unit" isntead of just a normal motherboard
@PolarisNC001
@PolarisNC001 2 жыл бұрын
I'm starting to really enjoy the new thing you're doing with extra people contributing to the videos. It really shows how y'all work a team.
@Thommygun-qv7um
@Thommygun-qv7um 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you kinda missed an important point. The wohole point of the modular design is that you can reuse the backplane/case and pop a new compute element in it to upgrade. So, are those compute elements sold separately? Or can you even use the 12. gen module on the backplane of the 11. gen? You literally had them side by side and not tried it. If it is not possible why bother to make this design at all? Would be nice if you could make a follow up where this question gets answered.
@TubbyJ420
@TubbyJ420 2 жыл бұрын
4:03 my old Thermaltake Tsunami case had a 90mm side fan. The stock black fan replaced with a cool UV blue 92mm fan was close, but not quite an exact fit. The screws were never flat, they had to be angled.
@broodjenoodles
@broodjenoodles 2 жыл бұрын
@Amanda Diaz ad
@AsbestosMuffins
@AsbestosMuffins 2 жыл бұрын
I think 90mil fans are like 200 mil fans where everybody has a slightly different interpretation. only 120 and 14 are really standardized
@johnsausage
@johnsausage 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately they missed the most important part: Upgrading a previous model with the newer compute element. Is it financially competitive when comparing it against a normal PC upgrade? Is the older power supply powerful enough? Can you reuse all previous M.2 SSDs (except for one). Can you sell or make REAL use of the old compute element (I highly doubt that!).
@johnsausage
@johnsausage 2 жыл бұрын
@SOUL SEEKER Yeah, but in what new case, if you bought this unit as your first? The form factor and special cables are still proprietary, aren't they? After all I think this is just fancy marketing and you'll never actually upgrade that compute unit..
@RichardTheRoe
@RichardTheRoe 2 жыл бұрын
You okay there, LTT? This video seems unusually... Incoherent? You didn't even put your video intro in it. The transition from the Linus segment to the Alex segment just felt weird. Title doesn't match the content?
@olivercorrodi3340
@olivercorrodi3340 2 жыл бұрын
would be cool if there were different front panels. i'd love to own a compact PC without a cringy edgelord RGB skull so prominently placed on the front
@nathangoddard8115
@nathangoddard8115 2 жыл бұрын
The engireering looks amazing! I have an older gen NUC and I am very impressed by Intel's continuing commitment to this line!
@bapt_andthebasses
@bapt_andthebasses 2 жыл бұрын
Intel: *gives each LMG employee 5k to spend* Also LMG: "Intel, you're doing it wrong!" Don't forget to compare the new Mac Studio and these lol
@ThomasAlex
@ThomasAlex 2 жыл бұрын
Just in time, with the Mac Studio. A head to head comparison video would be really interesting to see
@nahidsarker69
@nahidsarker69 2 жыл бұрын
You read my mind bro
@nahidsarker69
@nahidsarker69 2 жыл бұрын
@Photo Bunny What is the difference? Something like..one of them is a refrigerator and another one is an oven? No..both of them are pc. Can't you use that gaming pc as your so called workstation? Yes you can and you can do it as much as you want.But i am sure that you can't use that "workstation" for gaming..if you ever want to🙂 and another thing..Mac Studio costs way more than that NUC for no reason.
@TylerTron21
@TylerTron21 2 жыл бұрын
@@nahidsarker69 you are subscribed to this channel. You know the difference between gaming CPUs, storage and GPUs vs workstation variants of those components.
@girlsdrinkfeck
@girlsdrinkfeck 2 жыл бұрын
@Photo Bunny hardly a, workstation more like a nettop it has no dedicated gpu
@girlsdrinkfeck
@girlsdrinkfeck 2 жыл бұрын
@Photo Bunny?
@TechArc_
@TechArc_ 2 жыл бұрын
OK, one thing LTT has got to change, is the abrupt changing of the titles on the videos, and also what is Intel doing wrong? I didn't see anything wrong with it in the video, so why change the title?
@chronossage
@chronossage 2 жыл бұрын
I thought last year it was pretty cool that you can change and upgrade the compute unit but I'm kind of disappointed they made a whole new enclosure. It feels like a loss since I figured Intel was taking a step in making some kind of waste reduction with swappable parts. I'm even more disappointed that Linus didn't swap the compute units and see if they would work in the other enclosure. Last year I felt like the whole point was you'll be able to buy newer computer units separately and just upgrade what you need.
@UncleKennysPlace
@UncleKennysPlace 2 жыл бұрын
It turns out that most people don't upgrade their computers at all; some may add a little RAM or an extra drive, and just about nobody will swap out the GPU or CPU. I mean, _we_ do, but we're real enthusiasts. Pretty much the same 30 years ago.
@ArchusKanzaki
@ArchusKanzaki 2 жыл бұрын
The new enclosure have some upgrade, but I don't think its mandatory to upgrade the enclosure. Pretty weird that they do not try to confirm it though
@Ocastia
@Ocastia 2 жыл бұрын
@@UncleKennysPlace really? I never felt the need to swap out my CPU. I want to swap out just about everything else when Lovelace and RDNA 3 comes out, so i will be building a whole new computer, but swapping out anything regularly seems strange, you either have enough performance or to little. and if you have to little, it'll rarely be just one part, and once you upgraded you should be good for at least 4 years.
@suntzu1409
@suntzu1409 2 жыл бұрын
I doubt that you will ever be able to actually buy compute elements seperately
@ashlyy1341
@ashlyy1341 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ocastia depends how long your upgrade cycle is and what your use case is. i have a 4690k and sure it's nowhere near any of the 12th gen stuff or ryzen 5000-series, but my gtx970 is what's holding me back the most. a gpu upgrade would make sense while saving for the rest of the pc. i also added an nvme drive last year to improve game load times and texture streaming in cyberpunk imo cpu upgrades are more for when you have a longlasting platform (eg ryzen's 450 motherboards) and want a performance uplift, or if you need to save a buck and can grab a lower tier cpu for your new build with the intention of upgrading in a few months
@driftlx
@driftlx 2 жыл бұрын
2:22 was chilling and then almost had a heart attack 😅
@dfgoui
@dfgoui 2 жыл бұрын
9:48 are we just going to brush over the 670 point single core reduction from your overclock?
@rightwingsafetysquad9872
@rightwingsafetysquad9872 2 жыл бұрын
I'm really interested in the i7 version. The product page on Intel's website says it's launched, but neither Amazon nor Newegg has it even listed.
@samuelberton3778
@samuelberton3778 2 жыл бұрын
If Apple’s claims on their M1 Ultra are true, this will be a large Gaming PC!
@allan_archie
@allan_archie 2 жыл бұрын
Apple doesn't care about gaming. Lol.
@cyroz2
@cyroz2 2 жыл бұрын
every apple claim is based on cherry picked scenarios for productivity
@BenSwoloest
@BenSwoloest 2 жыл бұрын
@@allan_archie what does that have to do with anything? He’s saying that M1 is insanely powerful and small. Smaller than this
@kernalmustang260
@kernalmustang260 2 жыл бұрын
MacOS barely supports a game library. Don't try and force them into our space please.
@alexanderpaulino3303
@alexanderpaulino3303 2 жыл бұрын
Apple claims have never been true, unless you count the features that they remove.
@ze-ph9774
@ze-ph9774 2 жыл бұрын
The Intel NUCS design coupled with it's specs always caught my eye and always wanted them but cannot due to price. The NUCs is one of Intel's best creations. Kudos to them.
@NicholasOrr
@NicholasOrr 2 жыл бұрын
Cheaper ones on special work well instead of under powered ARM SBCs. Pi or equiv cluster is great for tinkering, find the NUC for not much more, simpler ;)
@ze-ph9774
@ze-ph9774 2 жыл бұрын
@@NicholasOrr I understand your suggestion. But you can't exactly play Elden Ring or triple A games on a PI or ARM equivalent.
@NicholasOrr
@NicholasOrr 2 жыл бұрын
@@ze-ph9774 ha - totally - yeah as a primary device NUC doesn't do well for budget/value builds ;)
@joemarais7683
@joemarais7683 2 жыл бұрын
"No Compromises" Proceeds to have a massive compromise by only having 65W max. But I guess when Intel is paying y'all, you'll say anything.
@user-dn5bx2iu3e
@user-dn5bx2iu3e 2 жыл бұрын
"no compromises" *$* exists.
@BrianMcKee
@BrianMcKee 2 жыл бұрын
When you take account the size of the machine the price proposition of these NUCs is actually really good. Most mini itx rigs require cases in the hundreds of dollars. Really if space is at a premium there is no better solution, especially if you need 10 gig networking.
@elshanmalikmammadov4379
@elshanmalikmammadov4379 2 жыл бұрын
Mac studio is better than cheaper (when configured as M1 MAX)
@Neoxon619
@Neoxon619 2 жыл бұрын
It’s been a while since the last no compromises PC on LTT, although this one is a pre-built one.
@truthseeker6804
@truthseeker6804 2 жыл бұрын
Didn’t know there’s were small windows pcs like these, all I kept seeing is Mac mini and now the Mac studio. Glad these windows pcs exists and hope to see more videos. I use windows for specific app use cases so can’t go for MacOS.
@kartikeypandey8957
@kartikeypandey8957 2 жыл бұрын
But they aren't small enough compared to mac studio (the smallest one that linus showed is quite weak for a good ride). I think Intel still needs to work on power efficiency.
@matthewd9356
@matthewd9356 2 жыл бұрын
@@kartikeypandey8957 If Intel went with all integrated they could probably get down to a similarish form factor but these devices are still designed with some modularity in mind as demonstrated here. Apple is able to get away with it because they're forcing everyone into their ecosystem whereas the rest of the pc market is mostly able to swap back and forth/use off shelf parts.
@quintoblanco8746
@quintoblanco8746 2 жыл бұрын
Just google mini pcs. There are many small PCs is different price classes.
@kartikeypandey8957
@kartikeypandey8957 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewd9356 I am actually pointing out intel's power to performance ratio , nothing else. Amd is doing better in this department.
@WalterMan
@WalterMan 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewd9356 there are smaller PCs about the same size as a Mac Mini, but have mostly soldered in components and can’t match the performance of Apples.
@freespam9236
@freespam9236 2 жыл бұрын
0:50 considering how much excitement there was i hoped to see the original box the first nuc came in to be shown and to be opened... for those that don't know, go look it up :D
@sinuslebastian6366
@sinuslebastian6366 2 жыл бұрын
Here a cideo of Linus unboxing the first NUC for those who wanna look it up- kzbin.info/www/bejne/rn2XfotjZbtropY
@Xavierpng
@Xavierpng 2 жыл бұрын
Intel NUCs have always been a weird fixation for me. They have a value proposition that just never makes sense, but that makes it even more tantalizing
@dexmoses6887
@dexmoses6887 2 жыл бұрын
New to these NUCs but do they come with all the parts required to run or are they like singleboards like raspbi4 where if you buy the kits it has everything it needs but needs extra parts if only purchased the board
@Mobile_Dom
@Mobile_Dom 2 жыл бұрын
i honestly have no idea why Intel didn't just invert the compute element, this isn't something they need to stick to PCIe conformity on you should have the back of the compute element against the back of the GPU pulling in cool air from either side
@vigvaryb
@vigvaryb 2 жыл бұрын
Ye it is kinda strange
@danzaiver0084
@danzaiver0084 2 жыл бұрын
drives me crazy every time i see these things shown off lol, intel engineers cant figure out how to flip a pcb
@SevenandForty
@SevenandForty 2 жыл бұрын
At that point it's basically a Dan AT but locked to Intel
@A_G_YT
@A_G_YT 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. I just built a gaming pc and thank you for literally 75% of all my pc knowledge. I love the channel, plz keep it going!
@beanholder3634
@beanholder3634 2 жыл бұрын
I'm about to build a pc for editing and relate. Hope your gaming gaming rig rips 🤙
@apostolismixalakopoulos2322
@apostolismixalakopoulos2322 2 жыл бұрын
its smol for sure
@ActuallyThijs
@ActuallyThijs 2 жыл бұрын
Thats what she said
@divyeshrickesh4842
@divyeshrickesh4842 2 жыл бұрын
That's what she said
@user-gb1lm1bq4s
@user-gb1lm1bq4s 2 жыл бұрын
That's what she said
@jawadhashem5074
@jawadhashem5074 2 жыл бұрын
That's what she said😂😂😂
@nayan.punekar
@nayan.punekar 2 жыл бұрын
That's what she said
@PhanRangBoy
@PhanRangBoy Жыл бұрын
I bought a complete NUC12 Extreme + Graphic Card = $3,750. It is pricy but works real well with heavy software such as Solidworks and Mastercam. This unit can handle 200+ files working at the same assembly. Very amazing unit. I get what I paid for. I use this system to do some other side jobs and it paid off itself just within 1 month of work.
@toggtlas7099
@toggtlas7099 2 жыл бұрын
Does the "You're doing it wrong" title actually have anything to do with the video or is it just shameless clickbait? Doesn't seem to reflect the video at all...
@rijaja
@rijaja 2 жыл бұрын
They're really interesting devices, but I wish they replaced that ugly skull with something else
@TheLPN05Fan
@TheLPN05Fan 2 жыл бұрын
The NUCs are extremly attractive to me in the Design-Performance-Price Combo, even though I don't need any of it. My Uncle may like these, though a DGPU probably be more his fit.
@DebugMenu
@DebugMenu 2 жыл бұрын
Dropped keyframe at 6:40 when set to 1080p, absolutely unwatchable. Can't believe youse guyse would drop the ball like that. Embarrassing.
@MKR3238
@MKR3238 2 жыл бұрын
How random to see you pop up in the comments 😄
@dutmala
@dutmala 2 жыл бұрын
I love the compute module idea, so compact, reminds me of the old pentium 2
@nesyboi9421
@nesyboi9421 2 жыл бұрын
It's funny we have one of those literally sitting in a kitchen drawer from one of my Dad's old machines.
@LeftJoystick
@LeftJoystick 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve got an 11th gen NUC. It has this weird sleep/wake issue where the fans will ramp to 100% and the display will just stay off. So frustrating. Have taken the entire thing apart to check for anything loose/unseated. Have reinstalled Windows twice, have updated everything I can think of, have tried multiple displays/cables/display out ports… Just keeps happening.
@yashonagori
@yashonagori 2 жыл бұрын
Too look at these “small” boxes and then to realise what apple has done with Mac studio is just insane.
@MR-vg7yn
@MR-vg7yn 2 жыл бұрын
Really weird comparison, but okay: Yes, the M1 is awesome... it's not a replacement for an RTX 3080, though, which is what makes this box so "big": The full size GPU.
@yashonagori
@yashonagori 2 жыл бұрын
@@MR-vg7yn That's exactly what I meant actually, with the only exception of gamers, the M1 ultra/max will most probably outshine anything a PC can do, be it with a 3080. Especially for creative professionals. The idea that they achieved that in such small footprint is insane to me.
@MR-vg7yn
@MR-vg7yn 2 жыл бұрын
​@@yashonagori Looking at benchmarks of a 32 GPU core M1 Max that put it somewhere in the neighborhood of a mobile 1660 for general use, I _really_ doubt the 64 GPU core version in the M1 Ultra will be anywhere close to a full-sized RTX 3080 in general. Yes, there will probably be some native Mac applications where the M1 will be around that level of performance, but in general? No, it won't be, sorry. And that's not an issue really: The M1 is really power-efficient and, therefore, really fast for a small package. It's a great piece of silicon... but just like every other great piece of silicon before it, it's not the next Messiah and it's not a miracle. Just realistically compare the Mac Studio to the NUC shown here: The Mac Studio is around 3.7 litres in volume, the NUC here is around 7.6 litres. Yes, the NUC is roughly double the volume. But just swap out the full size GPU used here for a smaller, less powerful one and you could realistically bring that thing down significantly in size. You probably won't reach 3.7 litres, but as a trade-off, you're still using exchangeable, standard parts. As I said: The M1 is awesome, but it's not a miracle. These claims that the next Mac will render "normal" PCs obsolete are nothing new, either... and like every other time before, they're just unrealistic, sorry. The Mac Studio will realistically set you back around five grand without peripherals. Do you have any idea what kind of PC you can buy for that, even with the currently insane prices? Best of all, that PC is actually upgradable in a meaningful way. And even ignoring price: To actually get the most out of that expensive hardware, you will have to move into Apple's own walled garden. That means, no matter how miraculous the M1 Ultra ends up being, it will not "outshine anything a PC can do". That's just not realistic.
@andreewert6576
@andreewert6576 2 жыл бұрын
@@MR-vg7yn silicon*
@realtechhacks
@realtechhacks 2 жыл бұрын
@@andreewert6576 All these people putting random pieces of rubber in their pcs...
@silverbison
@silverbison 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like it would be a good media pc for the living room but then they go and put a skull on it :/
@rubuk2996
@rubuk2996 2 жыл бұрын
Looks exciting over the old NUC being able to tune the CPU. Shame the cooler for the processor isn't a little larger.
@LinusTechTips
@LinusTechTips 2 жыл бұрын
It actually is larger in size - the removal of one of the M.2 slots was needed for the larger IHS of a socketed CPU. -CW
@Nuc04
@Nuc04 2 жыл бұрын
Yo Linus, just wanted to say thanks for reviewing my processor. Your video was so informative and I love seeing people talk about it. Much love
@victorkhimenko2816
@victorkhimenko2816 2 жыл бұрын
That's certainly very impressive tech, but according the web site it's 14.1 x 7.4 x 4.7", while Velka-7 (where you can fit the same CPU or many others which Mini-ITX supports) is 11.9 x 7.0 x 4.4", smaller in literally EVERY dimension. And it support SFX PSU, etc.
@CouchPotator
@CouchPotator 2 жыл бұрын
but this can fit a slightly longer gpu
@OddlyIncredible
@OddlyIncredible 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of NUCs as HTPCs, I'm still using an original Skull Canyon NUC (i7-6770) as a HTPC playing live cable TV streams off a HDHomeRun Prime with a cablecard. It's a much older machine, but it gets the job done. These NUCs are beastly boxes for their size.
@TristynRusselo
@TristynRusselo 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the 12 compute unit would work in the 11 gen case? and would the 4th nvme slot work? wasn one of the points of the "compute unit" for upgradability?
@phoenixlounge7656
@phoenixlounge7656 2 жыл бұрын
I can confirm yes. It does work as that's Intel's plan to make the case future proof and the commute units to be as well. - I've asked Intel about this very question and a guy called Norman from Intel confirmed it does work.
@ItsNoot3rch
@ItsNoot3rch 2 жыл бұрын
The other title was “The no compromises small form factor pc”
@paulogodinho3275
@paulogodinho3275 2 жыл бұрын
FirsT?
@Armynator90
@Armynator90 2 жыл бұрын
yess
@LetsGetPolitical_69
@LetsGetPolitical_69 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, you won the game, here's your reward: 🤡
@paulogodinho3275
@paulogodinho3275 2 жыл бұрын
@@LetsGetPolitical_69 Cheers my dude, I had never opened a LTT video with no comments.
@shallpion
@shallpion 2 жыл бұрын
I fail to see why a "content creator", or aka, "professional", in youtuber's world, will not bring a macbook pro or the mac mini or even the big mac instead of carrying this while traveling.
@danz409
@danz409 2 жыл бұрын
im soo glad to see 10g becoming more common. hopefully soon we will find it on the avarage motherboard and not just the enthusiast tier.
@Mustafa_9628
@Mustafa_9628 2 жыл бұрын
You know what this can result into or become? A hybrid pc/console A pc in a size of a console With the modular design and the ease of plug and play nature of consoles This could be unstoppable
@DelphinusMAch1
@DelphinusMAch1 2 жыл бұрын
Micro PCs can't compete on price tho
@Mustafa_9628
@Mustafa_9628 2 жыл бұрын
@@DelphinusMAch1 True tho But it can work if someone like microsoft think it through
@LeahLundqvist
@LeahLundqvist 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see this vs the mac studio when yall get it c:
@OfSheikah
@OfSheikah 2 жыл бұрын
intel are going to be so marketing the Alchemist Xe GPUs as their official ultimate addon for these later larger NUCs with the extra PCIe slot although, missed the form factor of their Hades Canyon days...
@crushermach3263
@crushermach3263 2 жыл бұрын
12:15 No joke, I was just virtually building a PC with the same CPU and similar specs just yesterday to get a feel for modern desktop pricing. Price came to ~$2,000. A good chunk of that was a $500 graphics card, so with everything else added together (form factor, warranty, etc.) I totally believe this would be worth getting instead of building my own from scratch.
@nowerries
@nowerries 2 жыл бұрын
@@arbiya4346 LMAO
@KyudoKun
@KyudoKun 2 жыл бұрын
It seems that Linus and his gang are getting addicted to putting misleadingly clickbait title to gain more view. Apparently I'm one of those who was baited to watch this til the end.
@the_hamrat
@the_hamrat 2 жыл бұрын
This is what happens when engineers are allowed to go crazy
@BoSaGuy
@BoSaGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Linus yesterday: AMD not your friend Linus today: Intel do it wrong Nvidia supremacist confirmed. LMG was actually bought by Nvidia after Linus’ little prank/joke thing on April fool’s day. (Read: joke)
@kurtisrinker1202
@kurtisrinker1202 2 жыл бұрын
I so would've got one of these but the phantom canyon nuc is small enough to Vesa mount onto the back of your monitor so it looks like nothing is on the desk! That combined with nice cable routing/hiding makes for a ridiculously clean look. It's just my backup pc so it has more than enough performance for that.
@kevinhadap6463
@kevinhadap6463 2 жыл бұрын
Maxing out Elden Ring on my Phantom Canyon... I had to wait a LOT longer than expected for it (arrived last year about 3 months too late), but I love the form factor. Ridiculously small, quiet, and cool for its output.
@kurtisrinker1202
@kurtisrinker1202 2 жыл бұрын
@@kevinhadap6463 hah, same here. I literally got mine at the very end of last year.
@emoneydev8684
@emoneydev8684 2 жыл бұрын
4:03 I'm saving this clip
@Groovewonder2
@Groovewonder2 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I could throw one of those compute elements into a PCIe slot in my PC to run game servers, but I'd imagine it'd push power out of the connector instead of vice-versa and break stuff.
@chaitanyakulkarni6416
@chaitanyakulkarni6416 2 жыл бұрын
Or a arm based system in pcie to function like server
@soggypeanut9161
@soggypeanut9161 2 жыл бұрын
Sooooooo the only thing one gains is the ability to swap to an overclockable CPU that you wouldn't be able to overclock due to thermal limitations, a 10 gig ethernet port, the ability to add a 2 slot GPU, and you lose an M.2 slot... Zippidy doo dah. I'll keep my $1450 and my regular desktop PC, thanks.
@alexreffand
@alexreffand 2 жыл бұрын
5:00 "It needs that extra space to pull in fresh air" It wouldn't need that slot if they would FLIP THE FUCKING COMPUTE CARD AROUND. This design STILL hurts me.
@GyroCannon
@GyroCannon 2 жыл бұрын
“No compromises” Except the one that has existed since the NUC line’s introduction, you can’t upgrade the thing without shelling out another 1k
@sandman94
@sandman94 2 жыл бұрын
All you said was good things about this, even pricing is good as you said. Then what exactly the title is refering to? OG Title: "Intel, you’re doing it wrong."
@earnistse4899
@earnistse4899 2 жыл бұрын
I’d say most all traveling editors would prefer a new MacBook Pro so they don’t have to lug around a desktop , monitor and peripherals. The MacBook Pro offers outstanding performance and maintains it all on battery. Much better for travel
@modulusshift
@modulusshift 2 жыл бұрын
Huh. Didn't answer my question: does the 12th gen compute unit work in the 11th gen chassis? That's theoretically the whole point, right?
@techboy95
@techboy95 2 жыл бұрын
2:50 I guess this was recorded before the studio Mac was showcased in the Apple event. Yes obviously the Mac doesn’t support discrete graphics but the M1 ultra is surely competitive or better even then a 3070 class card
@girlsdrinkfeck
@girlsdrinkfeck 2 жыл бұрын
Ahahha no M1 sucks it can't game bruh it's no where near power 9f rtx 3070
@bonsaikitchen
@bonsaikitchen 2 жыл бұрын
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@IdunRedstone
@IdunRedstone 2 жыл бұрын
Intel doing so much cooler engineering to make the fan for CPU aim at the GPU instead of the bloody side panel and just adding some mesh.
@kojetono5853
@kojetono5853 2 жыл бұрын
This annoys me so much. Every time i see this thing, i wonder why they didn't flip the comoute unit so it draws air from the other side.
@PunisherOfDeath101
@PunisherOfDeath101 2 жыл бұрын
Ill stick with my sliger 610. No riser 1000w sfxl psu noctua u9s 6600xt 5800x. Under 1500$ total system.
@JMPDev
@JMPDev 2 жыл бұрын
Great video LTT, but with a clickbait title "you're doing it wrong" that isn't addressed anywhere in the video, it's getting a downvote :(
@Rok_Satanas
@Rok_Satanas 2 жыл бұрын
I never understood why didn't intel flip the card that holds the cpu-ram combo the other way so that it could use both sides of the case for cooling (1 for gpu and the other for the cpu)
@pixelpuppy
@pixelpuppy 2 жыл бұрын
EVERY. TIME. I see Linus holding ANY tech so precariously, I can't help but hold my breath.
@michalnowak3558
@michalnowak3558 Жыл бұрын
Just found one of them , second hand with i9 12900, WD blue 2tb , Kingston dd4 32gb 3200 but no GPU for 700€. I personally think it is worth it.
@Luckysury333
@Luckysury333 2 жыл бұрын
New graphs are looking amazing! The old ones now look it is from 20 years ago
@yashpathania6045
@yashpathania6045 2 жыл бұрын
Lol doesn’t stand a chance in front of m1 ultra. Lol noob pc garbage. Apple engineering is so much better for this small form factor.
@jfairplane8520
@jfairplane8520 2 жыл бұрын
it's 1 Tb4 ctrl with 2 port. So it's half bandwidth if you plug something requesting full power tb.
@Morphling92
@Morphling92 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Why’s it feel like two videos mashed together though? Linus just leaves and is nowhere to be seen again.
@claucmgpcstuf5103
@claucmgpcstuf5103 2 жыл бұрын
cpu madre bod and mini nuc case with 650 w = 1600$ hmmm + tha rest ram gpu 5000$ today ..... if yu find a gpu for lest the 2500 $ fora a rtx 3080 ... SF FRO VERI RICI PERSONS .. WITH NO CRISPI CPU PROBLEMS OR PARANOIA !! TMP 100c YEA shure the future ! . no mo re coment
@claucmgpcstuf5103
@claucmgpcstuf5103 2 жыл бұрын
colsvile factor yes veri coolsvile for tha form factor an it has a cpu soket so ther is a litel hope left !!1 ... bot it is veri compct and hot ! for a veri smol rici target prsons !
@EGOS42
@EGOS42 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry I missed the part where Intel is doing it wrong. Got me to click yew basteeds! Liked the video despite the title.
@rogue3398
@rogue3398 2 жыл бұрын
I've been looking for a low profile rig for a tiny guest office in my tiny guest bedroom, and this has BIG potential.
@PashaGamingYT
@PashaGamingYT 2 жыл бұрын
Old title was "The Smallest NO COMPROMISE gaming PC"
@HarpaxA
@HarpaxA 2 жыл бұрын
@4:04 It won't be Linus Tech Tips, if Linus didn't drop something during video 🤣
@Dave-oi2gg
@Dave-oi2gg 2 жыл бұрын
Dislike for clickbait title.
@zutai1
@zutai1 2 жыл бұрын
ep idea: best pc case, with the best parts you can fit into it, best cooling, etc. best of the best pc. then, you go caseless-in house made case, balls to the wall cooling, mother board with room for ANYTHING you could ever want in it, no space limits, for anything. full jank, 5gal bucket of thermal mass in the water loop, box fan forcing air into the pc fans, etc. just as far as you can push everything, with no limitations how much better can it get? is it worth it? what could it be worth it for?
@j0nthegreat
@j0nthegreat 2 жыл бұрын
What the heck is up with the title of this video? what are they doing wrong?
@toopienator
@toopienator 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh, stop changing the title of your videos and making them more clickbait-y
@davidteodorescu9901
@davidteodorescu9901 2 жыл бұрын
Why do I actually really want this now despite the fact that I don't need it. It could replace my laptop...
@buchsjoel
@buchsjoel Жыл бұрын
Man, way too much advertising in your video, it's a pity because the content is valuable.
@paky911
@paky911 2 жыл бұрын
Linus, why do you change the video title for almost every video a short time after it's released?
@NITE_PINE
@NITE_PINE 2 жыл бұрын
Is there different front panel without the ugly skull? Other than that it looks totally awesome.
@A_Balanced_Breakfast
@A_Balanced_Breakfast 2 жыл бұрын
"or you could just keep computer off" Editor does not understand capacitors evidently
@billyjhamlin
@billyjhamlin 2 жыл бұрын
You really should've kept with the bit and mosaiced the spot on the counter for the entire time.
@davids5257
@davids5257 2 жыл бұрын
Why intel do not make the CPU Take air from the outside? Turn the CPU socket to the other side.
@shutterbugsid1467
@shutterbugsid1467 2 жыл бұрын
12:01 ... you know how it is we give you some pros n cons and straight up gameplay.... Alex literally sounded like Jake Baldino from Gameranx
@MaxHaydenChiz
@MaxHaydenChiz 2 жыл бұрын
Next time you do something with a small system like this, could you report the weight? Like, if I have to send a high performance computer around via UPS / FedEx how much bang for my buck am I getting in terms of weight over a big bulky gaming laptop? I *think* the laptop is a better choice in terms of performance / weight and performance / size, but I might be wrong. And something like this has the benefit that I can check it and/or not pay extra to ship something with lithium batteries.
@Slizzo82
@Slizzo82 2 жыл бұрын
You'd be surprised where the cost difference lies between weight and size. Size of package actually has more to due with shipping cost now than weight alone.
@killacounty
@killacounty 2 жыл бұрын
Why is that guy wearing a dust mask? Is your shop like... Super dusty?
@jammaas2597
@jammaas2597 2 жыл бұрын
Yooo.. what's the DDR4 label on the M.2 slot there..!?!?!? ... can someone tell
@emirrp
@emirrp 2 жыл бұрын
Linus Tech Tips you’re doing it wrong. With the title. It sucks
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