What do you think about Wasted Studios going out of business? Will Moon Patrol and Biplanes get finished elsewhere? Do you think there are other Intellivision devs in similar situations and/or upset about the lack of progress with the console?
@quentinrountree34352 жыл бұрын
Honesty Pat I don't think there any games finished for the amico
@magheeh83532 жыл бұрын
Maybe you should invest to get these games completed!
@MAGA_Patriot20242 жыл бұрын
I doubt these games will ever see the light of day, much like the amico console. Oddly, moon patrol was pushed from the beginning. If a launch day title didn't make it, then forget about any of the others!
@michaelpolifka102 жыл бұрын
They released a new video.
@airbagged_2 жыл бұрын
It was so weird that Slopes, known for calling out Kickstarter scams, shilled for Amico like that.
@TerminallyNerdy2 жыл бұрын
I really want a full on documentary of the Amico now. A deep dive long form vid. Cause this HAS to go deeper and crazier then any of us realize.
@devilmikey002 жыл бұрын
It's going to be really interesting when the employee NDA's expire. The stories are going to be wild.
@adamrmoss2 жыл бұрын
André LaMothe once said he was doing some of the engineering on the controller, hope he can spill the beans when NDAs expire.
@nickthelick2 жыл бұрын
So, just wondering, can an employee get sued if they speak out before their NDA expires? 🤔 I assume so? That's the whole point of an NDA in this situation I'm guessing? 🤔 As I said... I'm just wondering... ✌🏼🙂👍🏼
@toyvania2 жыл бұрын
It will be tons of fun.
@Video_Crow2 жыл бұрын
Well, the good thing is that a company that doesn't exist anymore can't enforce an NDA, so once the house of cards collapses completely, the floodgates will open.
@farts64992 жыл бұрын
NDAs don't really mean shit if you lose your job over semi-fraudulent bullshit or the company folds.
@thejonnyera2 жыл бұрын
This is the type of thing that needs some sort of documentary, the rise and fall of intellivison. From interviews with former staff to stories and reenactments of things that happened. Tommy since I know you read everything here’s an idea for you maybe you can make the soundtrack. !
@Alchemistice2 жыл бұрын
Pitch it to Company Man. "The Rise and Fall of Intellivison."
@worldsheaviestjamband932 жыл бұрын
I’m trying to think of a word to replace rise with since they never really were rising. The ______ and fall. The BS promise and fall might work. There’s something more clever out there.
@TheKnobCalledTone.2 жыл бұрын
I'm optimistic that Slopes will eventually put out a Kickscammers video about the Amico that's on the same level as his ZX Spectrum Vega+ video.
@thecunninlynguist2 жыл бұрын
@@TheKnobCalledTone. me too. or McMuscles doing a what Happun?! Intellivison Amico/Tommy Talerico
@KeithPhillips2 жыл бұрын
@@worldsheaviestjamband93 It's a perfect title 👍 Or maybe: "The Fall and Death of Intellivision" 🤣
@martinhelling72482 жыл бұрын
With the Dev company that made Moon Patrol folding before the "deep dive" and there was revealed content from Star Fox written in the game.........Do you think this could have been an act of sabotage by the Dev Company as they weren't properly funded and angry with Intellivision and how they were treated?
@CaptainAshSpearow2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to your look at the "unboxing" video that just dropped- it's a doozy. I still don't know what's going to happen; but like any car crash, I've been fascinated by this saga in the "don't want to look, but can't look away" sense.
@TheCommanderTaco2 жыл бұрын
I have been viewing this as a dumpster fire rather then a car crash lol. Feels nice and warm to be next too ( might smell a bit) while listening to people criticize how the fire started, and others arguing that the contents that are burning are still salvageable or good as new in today's market lol.
@RobotWillie2 жыл бұрын
This is my version of As the World Turns or General Hospital for sure. Except its real life with real people who have got hurt in the process sadly.
@GareWorks2 жыл бұрын
I figure John spear-headed this video as a way of saying "WE'RE STILL ALIVE!" If nothing else, the video was better than anything else they've produced, and should have been what we saw a year ago. It still sucked and is too little, too late, but it was funny nonetheless.
@jordanjohnson57842 жыл бұрын
Me too, i can't wait to hear Pat and Ian's take on the unboxing video! 😭🤣🤭
@MAGA_Patriot20242 жыл бұрын
I was one of the suckers who reserved a "founders edition". Little did I know I'll be getting a paper box for my troubles (maybe). At least that was my takeaway from the "unboxing video". It pissed me off immensely knowing that no console will ever be forthcoming, yet those snake oil salesmen are acting like nothing's wrong. 😡😡🤬
@worldofretrogameplay69632 жыл бұрын
Funny how they could manufacture card board ‘IOUs’, but not the consoles. Alverado was caught saying they can build Amicos in-house. His Private messages were leaked on to AtariAge. My question is - why couldn’t they budget in a ‘team’ of people to assemble consoles there at IE, and then switch to a manufacturer later??
@paulliadis2 жыл бұрын
Because the software isn't close to being done
@worldofretrogameplay69632 жыл бұрын
@@paulliadis From what is known, the console isn’t finished yet either.
@CaptainWrong2 жыл бұрын
Tommy is a fan of “The Secret”? Explains so much… Also, of all the shills, Slope’s is the most painful. He’s done Kickscammer videos on projects with far fewer red flags than the Amico. Maybe the Cooler Cooler guy should have come on his channel?
@grandadgamer83902 жыл бұрын
You guys have done a great job over the last few years with these con artists. Such a shame though that great names like Intellivision and Atari VCS have been desiccated by this ridiculous "crowd " funding ethos.
@JohnyTheWizKid2 жыл бұрын
I got my vcs just fine. I haven't tested it out yet but at least they delivered. It just lacks more exclusive games.
@JohnSmith-yd5wq2 жыл бұрын
I do believe if the Amico did come out on time it severed more of a purpose than the VCS which is basically a crap gaming computer without a keyboard emulator machine.
@NimhLabs2 жыл бұрын
The Atari VCS merely lacks identity. It does a thing... it is a bit overpriced and doesn't have the ability to justify it being around It isn't a scam--but uh, that shouldn't be considered an achievement. However, we live in the darkest timeline
@SuperMoleRetro2 жыл бұрын
Send those games off to WATA now so you can get a jump on everyone else! What a collector piece!
@SuperNintendude882 жыл бұрын
Lol, I like that shot at Mike Mullis at the end. The dude has literally said "I love you" to Tommy multiple times. No that's honestly not a joke, he's said he loves Tommy on multiple occasions. The guy that calls Sam from Ars Technica biased, literally "loves" Tommy.
@TwinOpinion2 жыл бұрын
I ran out of popcorn long ago, but I can't stop watching! This story just keeps raising the ante!
@ggezlol-2 жыл бұрын
I like how you can see your dislike on the screenshot at 12:29 Pat lol, well played, well played.
@madmankevin2 жыл бұрын
Comments are turned off on the "unboxing" video...
@allforthenukie2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I've been keeping up with all of your coverage of this - there's so many juicy details to keep track of. It feels like my very own Coleco Chameleon, this is a hoot
@guillermos84472 жыл бұрын
They should have just promised and released a mini console with the best games. Call it a day and made people happy.
@davidlloyd15262 жыл бұрын
I think there's already been an Intellivision mini-console, though...
@guillermos84472 жыл бұрын
@@davidlloyd1526 I think there are some flashback style cheap ones. It would have been nice if they had something great like the Sega Genesis Mini. With every detail of the original, best games included. And maybe some newer versions too.
@FIXTREME2 жыл бұрын
@@guillermos8447 but there's no demand. The fact that a flashback plug and play exists is a miracle
@jameseyk12 жыл бұрын
When the Amico saga finally dies it's death, I'd love your guys take on the somewhat related thing that will also never come out, star citizen. For now though thank you for continuing to brighten my day with this train wreck :)
@cfltournaments84062 жыл бұрын
"the gang makes a console" With so many unlikeable characters and possible schemes, this is starting to feel like a rejected Always Sunny plot.
@airbagged_2 жыл бұрын
Nah, it's the "Nathan for You" of gaming.
@dwightdixon85082 жыл бұрын
You guys had a chance to go a month without Amico discussion but they decided to mess that up with their poorly executed “unboxing” event.
@TheCommanderTaco2 жыл бұрын
Sad thing is I wanted to like the Unboxing video, because John seems like a truly likable guy. I didn't like the video because they still haven't shown us the full specs or gone over truly important things towards the market they are supposedly aiming towards ( no mention of parental controls or what parents can do to make sure little Timmy dosen't go crazy on the store. Remember these are no longer cheap $3-$10 games lol).
@thelastdragon55512 жыл бұрын
They timed it right. Waited for this podcast to be taped midday and then released their unboxing. Knowing fully well they got a full week of exposure before the next CU podcast.
@worldofretrogameplay69632 жыл бұрын
I laughed at the unboxing video. It’s clearly an attempt to swindle the uninformed into thinking the Amico is being manufactured and close to release.
@thelastdragon55512 жыл бұрын
@@worldofretrogameplay6963 I thought it is before actually watching it. Thinking it’s egg on everyone’s face. 😂
@ccricers2 жыл бұрын
Now that they've done an unboxing video, the silence is broken and the scatterbrained timing of their public updates continues. It's all very ill thought out from a customers perspective, and if it was someone who hasn't seen this console before, it would be easy for them to assume it's ready to ship soon.
@Benjamin01192 жыл бұрын
When I first saw this video pop up, I thought it meant that Intellivision itself had gone out of business! If only!
@Jawnzun2 жыл бұрын
How ironic is it that Tommy was upset about the release/leak/reporting of “confidential” info by Ars Technica when he couldn’t do the same for his own partners in Choice Provisions.
@MagnaRyuuDesigns2 жыл бұрын
good lord after the unboxing, there are so many channels still "Deep throating" the Amico in praise
@JohnSegerclucka2 жыл бұрын
Like John Riggs?
@jNetDowling2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSegerclucka is Riggs still shilling for Amico? I unsubbed after that first video he did covering it.
@JohnSegerclucka2 жыл бұрын
@@jNetDowling I don't know if he's still doing it. I would assume so.
@JohnSegerclucka2 жыл бұрын
@@jNetDowling ps after seeing a couple of his shilling videos I can't watch anything he does anymore either
@JohnSegerclucka2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHPUgIlpeM2KerM So so so funny from 2 years ago. SHILL
@metalheadgamer6652 жыл бұрын
(Pat and Ian hoping that maybe THIS time they'll get that month Amico free) Amico unboxing extravaganza! (Cue The Price is Right lose music)
@Orochi_0012 жыл бұрын
Pat bought the physical products so he could participate in the inevitable class action lawsuit. No judge will believe customers bought these expecting anything less than a guaranteed eventual game.
@spiderfan19742 жыл бұрын
He said someone gifted them to him in an earlier podcast. Unless he bought more I thought they were a limited release. A quick cash grab for Mr. Scamarico.
@Orochi_0012 жыл бұрын
@@spiderfan1974 unsurprisingly, they are still quite available. I have to imagine the sales were abysmal
@GareWorks2 жыл бұрын
Pat, I personally talked to StartEngine and they told me that Intellivision's escrow account had never been opened - that no funds were ever taken from the investors because they terminated their offering, and so nobody was actually refunded. Meaning that all the money "invested" in the StartEngine campaign was basically people just saying how much they _wanted_ to contribute - it was essentially a pipe dream, potentially even just from the employees themselves.
@PatTheNESpunk2 жыл бұрын
I was referring to refunds for the console pre-orders.
@TheCrazierz2 жыл бұрын
@@PatTheNESpunk i almost pre-ordered yesterday because I like the idea and the wood theme console looks retro but I did my research and found out how it was delayed and all these problems wow
@SegaGenesisEvangelion2 жыл бұрын
I must be on my 5th listen of this entire playlist, this whole dramatic saga has been high camp and you two have covered it brilliantly. "if they were deathly silent, that when we knew - we got them." has to be one of my favorite moments, chills! lmao give pat and ian an emmy for this shit
@DavidSGrop2 жыл бұрын
Someone tell Karl Jobst to do a doc on this.
@gregorysgetaway61682 жыл бұрын
Have you two seen the Amico unboxing video?! I was BLOWN AWAY. If you could stop hating on poor Tommy and his friends for even five seconds you would appreciate that the Amico box is the most fucking beautiful box ever conceived. Never before has a box been so square or so cardboardy. Glad to see that millions of dollars were put to good use.
@worldsheaviestjamband932 жыл бұрын
Jaw dropping. A truly jaw dropping 📦.
@RobotWillie2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, secretly this project was for you to buy a several hundred dollar box for your cat to play with and companies like Petco and PetSmart were being pitched to for distribution.
@KeithPhillips2 жыл бұрын
*WOW*
@GareWorks2 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind, this was recorded a few days ago, so they'll have seen it by now. We'll see what they have to say in full next week (and it'll be glorious, I'm sure).
@FIXTREME2 жыл бұрын
Well,make sure to buy plenty of boxes during their bankruptcy proceedings. Maybe they'll throw in some branded stationary for free.
@brok95912 жыл бұрын
Why does Intellivision always post things right after the podcast gets recorded? Its obvious at this point they are posting around the CU podcast.
@XanthinZarda2 жыл бұрын
It's an old media tactic. Which is a bit of a problem in this New Media world. Can't report in the evening edition or morning edition if the moronic thing you do falls between those.
@dracovania2 жыл бұрын
As always the CU podcast IS the number 1 source for Amico news! Keep up the great work guys
@worldofretrogameplay69632 жыл бұрын
The Amico will NEVER see a retail release. The pandemic be damned, other companies STILL found a way to release new hardware (i.e. Blaze and their Evercade and Valve’s Steam Deck).
@EmeraldLavigne2 жыл бұрын
$50 says the book about this when it's all over includes like a chapter (or several asides/ cutaways that more or less amounts to a chapter) detailing the Caleco Chameleon (and whatever it was originally called) & tracing the similarities between the two situations...
@thecunninlynguist2 жыл бұрын
This dumpster fire just keeps on burning...that is pretty sleazy to showcase a game (not even finished) from a defunct company. Knowing Tommy, he probably would have kept them profits for amico, since the dev was liquidated
@shorterrecording2 жыл бұрын
Does Intellivision make announcements (unbox video, CEO change, etc.) on Tuesdays just to avoid Pat and Ian’s wrath?
@XanthinZarda2 жыл бұрын
Given that they've resorted to "Friday Night Dump" tactics before, the behaviour is as predictable as it is sad. But rather than evading the wrath, they've just given the duo a _whole week_ to dissect the video. Frame by frame, if they wanted.
@jdrakeh2 жыл бұрын
I think they'd have to invent that good-hearted "right-hand man" for an Amico movie from whole cloth because, AFAICT, all of the executives seem to be totally onboard the scam train.
@robertdanielpickard2 жыл бұрын
"You'll be gone, I'll be gone" -phrase i've heard in finance about getting bonuses for deals that are likely to fall apart in a few years
@worldsheaviestjamband932 жыл бұрын
I feel like they dropped the “unboxing video” to delay people asking for their preorder money back. It’s gonna be interesting.
@lasskinn4742 жыл бұрын
Talk is that it was to fullfill terms for german grants to avoid ligitation.
@juicyfruit63112 жыл бұрын
@@lasskinn474 So much behind the scenes stuff. Heard the guy who is supposed to get $100/sold console is the father of the guy in charge of Intellivisin Dubai? Holy twists and turns! 😱
@lasskinn4742 жыл бұрын
@@juicyfruit6311 well that would make some sense for why they had intellivision dubai in the first place
@linuxrobotgeek2 жыл бұрын
Interesting how this video comes out after the unboxing. Intellivision lives in a fantasy world thinking a video will somehow make things better. Ship the consoles and deliver them Intellivision. Enough with the nonsense.
@TheCommanderTaco2 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is if you read between the lines in that unboxing video they pretty much state the software still isn't done ( the game is free since the store still isn't up an running) lol. Sadly that was the breaking point for me to dislike the video ( was laughing that they turned off comments on the video) because I was curious what kind of parental controls they put in to make sure the child does not charge the parents card lol.
@linuxrobotgeek2 жыл бұрын
@@TheCommanderTaco I think they disabled the comments because they know the criticism they're going to get. Also I think they did the video to appease the investors.
@TheCrazierz2 жыл бұрын
@@TheCommanderTaco to be fair, what's the point of paying and maintaining servers if they aren't being used yet. If I had a company and I was trying to do the same thing, I'd cut costs by activating the server like 1 month before launch
@TheCommanderTaco2 жыл бұрын
@@TheCrazierz part of a reason to have them up early would be for maintenance reasoning. you want to make sure the store works as intended and dosen't give any issues ( R&D time which the company can't afford lol). The other reason I can think like people have stated this video once again seems geared more towards investors, and if it wasn't it would have given people more light if they John had shown himself redeeming a "physical" copy of a game which can't be done without a running store and working encrypted URL ( which we all know how well they handle encryption based on their developer port site) lol.
@davidlloyd15262 жыл бұрын
@@TheCrazierz Well... if the software is working, they could just use an old laptop to run it. Paying for servers only becomes an issue after you have 10,000 consoles connecting in...
@Gildog772 жыл бұрын
Impossible! They showed a box yesterday! A BOX FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!
@relateuk20032 жыл бұрын
The Slopes video was asking other KZbinrs if they thought these could be classified as games and opinions on packaging and delivery method. All of them disliked it
@ezg20002 жыл бұрын
Wasted Studios stopped producing Intellivision games once that German grant money ran out. Once they had to rely tommy to fund them then it was Game Over.
@devilmikey002 жыл бұрын
I imagine that's pretty much what happened.
@ezg20002 жыл бұрын
@@devilmikey00 Oh yeah. Tommy wasn't giving these devs any money. He was spending that 17 million on office spaces and giving his friends 6 figures salaries.
@TimmiiGamingChannel2 жыл бұрын
well Pretty much they have to pay back the German PPP loans so that means no money coming in or out and now their bankrupt and now the games are DOA.
@ezg20002 жыл бұрын
@@TimmiiGamingChannel Yeah. The only last ditch effort tommy can make is porting whatever game that's finished to mobile and the big 3.
@TimmiiGamingChannel2 жыл бұрын
@@ezg2000 I mean They have 3 years to finish and polishing their games and they haven't and delay it a 4th time. Mainly due to the parts shortage or them fucking up with the manufactures that have the components and don't want to pay what at least 1.5 mil to them but lost that much money and wanted to get a nice paid profit and not doing anything and now their charging the customers more money so they can paid back the German Govt and Sudash loans too.
@thrillretrogamer98012 жыл бұрын
Tommy went to the flea market research centre by the docks.
@GareWorks2 жыл бұрын
And then they had the gal to show off both of these games in some form during their latest video. Oh, sorry, you thought they were having a "quiet period"? Haha, no, that's too hard for these guys. They needed to show that they're still alive. Barely.
@benlogan1002 жыл бұрын
I’m crying, give me some extra napkins!
@gungasam30002 жыл бұрын
I know you're exhausted by this topic, but I'm loving every minute of it lol
@juannunez19292 жыл бұрын
If the Dev was liquidated on July 2021, then there's a very good chance that the Amico team knew the Dev was going under during the E3 presentation on June 2021.
@lasskinn4742 жыл бұрын
What games were they playing in their office demo vid? Doing "qa"?
@worldofretrogameplay69632 жыл бұрын
It sounds like Wasted Studios went out of business working for Intellivision. Lol!
@songohan33212 жыл бұрын
Can't wait until you break down the terrible unboxing video.
@Jordan837092 жыл бұрын
I don't understand how some people think that making a retro console with their own games and whatever is a good idea and profitable, when wouldn't it make more since to put together a digital collection on the current consoles and online? Granted most of these are already available. I mean the Atari Box, the Chamelion, and now this.
@davidlloyd15262 жыл бұрын
I think it's a pretty fun idea. Would I expect it to make money? Of course not... The digital collections have all been done many times now.
@ELSTERLING2 жыл бұрын
I had predicted the most damning revelations would only surface after the whole thing had collapsed and it seems to be happening. I wonder how much worse this'll get?
@XanthinZarda2 жыл бұрын
Have you looked into John Avacado's recent posts, thankfully collected into one image? It's kind of magical madness. Women bashing, MRA praise, trans bashing, an "Unwoke" association, "Social Marxism", an anti-islamic post, any one of these would be worthy of a sidelong stare, but he's posted _all of that._ Simply ask Imgur for 52vSYON and prepare to cringe until your soul warps though the Stargate.
@PaulWerkema2 жыл бұрын
So, where did the money from the German Government go? If it was to get these games done, then how did Wasted Games go under?
@vxicepickxv2 жыл бұрын
I imagine the grant was only for X total time.
@PaulWerkema2 жыл бұрын
@@vxicepickxv That makes sense.
@devilmikey002 жыл бұрын
It's not a blank cheque forever. There are almost certainly stipulations and at some point you have to reapply I imagine. It probably ran out and they were denied or didn't bother to reapply for more grant money and that was that.
@night_owlll2 жыл бұрын
TIL choice provisions are also the devs behind the BIT.TRIP series. the original 6 titles are great retro-inspired games and you can see some of that same flair from their version of breakout
@madonnabarker2 жыл бұрын
You thought you could go a month without talking about the Amico? Not yet. Soon, though.. Quite soon. Soon, it'll be Intellivision Entertainment going bankrupt and the Amico officially canceled. Then, the updates will obvious die down. I still think that's coming before the end of April myself. You're four yards from shore now.
@brandonlink65682 жыл бұрын
I'm not familiar with German bankruptcy law, is it public record who bought the liquidated assets?
@BolofromAvlis2 жыл бұрын
essentially those game boxes are nothing more than physical NFTs.
@neverwin25182 жыл бұрын
If only it was possible to short Intellivision, we'd all be rich!
@kjhoskins2 жыл бұрын
I had to ask twice, but they did send me a check for my refund.
@TimmiiGamingChannel2 жыл бұрын
You hope that the checks won't bounce.
@worldofretrogameplay69632 жыл бұрын
I’m soooo glad I never pre-ordered this train wreck of a dumpster fire.
@Pupppeteer2 жыл бұрын
When Ian was talking about the CEOs obsession with the secret it just makes you think. He really should have read a book called the transparency or something. Gamers like to know everything about a console mystery frustrates us.
@ayyywerelisteninghere10222 жыл бұрын
NOBODY SAW THIS COMING!
@charliecervas55042 жыл бұрын
This is the end.-Jim Morrison of The Doors.
@nickthelick2 жыл бұрын
I feel that "Toys In The Attic" by Aerosmith has some kind of relevance to this shit show situation here! Except... I can't for the life of me tie it in to a witty comment right now! (I mean, yep, Steven Tyler/Tallarico IS Tommy's cousin after all!) 🤔😉 ✌🏼😊👍🏼
@Sir_Maximus_Hardwood2 жыл бұрын
Hasn't this been going on for like 7 years now? Or am I thinking of another controversy
@JohnKelly22 жыл бұрын
4 years. You're thinking of the Coleco Chameleon. Their bullshit blends into the bullshit of the Amico.
@Sir_Maximus_Hardwood2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnKelly2 it's all coming back
@XanthinZarda2 жыл бұрын
@@Sir_Maximus_Hardwood It helps that a lot of the same people are doing the same crap.
@BadBrad1192 жыл бұрын
Too bad they couldn't have done an intellivision mini and added features. Would have been a perfect way to celebrate a 4 decade old system
@rhdata052 жыл бұрын
The real question is though, is Tommy's weekly check in finished???
@ConMag-Fhionnghaile2 жыл бұрын
And in second place this week, down from the top spot is Ouya with their debut "Retro Emulation Media Centre"
@worldofretrogameplay69632 жыл бұрын
Aside from Wasted Studios, who else was working on Amico games? I honestly have no idea.
@TimmiiGamingChannel2 жыл бұрын
Other Oceans and Choice Provision are the other German companies.
@worldofretrogameplay69632 жыл бұрын
@@TimmiiGamingChannel Do we know what happened to them? Hopefully they’re still in business.
@TimmiiGamingChannel2 жыл бұрын
@@worldofretrogameplay6963 that I don't know they are indies companies what I can tell.
@worldofretrogameplay69632 жыл бұрын
@@TimmiiGamingChannel Thank you for responding. Do you know which developer was working on Super Beakout for the Amico?
@TimmiiGamingChannel2 жыл бұрын
@@worldofretrogameplay6963 it was choice provisions that did the Breakout
@adamantium19834 ай бұрын
Watching all the videos 2 years later.. it is time for a full length documentary. Ian and Pat, you should make it!
@Mike__P2 жыл бұрын
I don't see how they think it's so strange to release an unfinished game. It's very common now, only difference is that companies today want more money for you to download content to be able to finish the game. Deep down you bought them because they're gonna be worth money in 40 years.
@DeeDee-zo3bi2 жыл бұрын
I would love a Seeeaaallleeed Amico hand delivered by Frank
@beefjerky71542 жыл бұрын
next month: Intellivision Entertainment Goes Out of Business
@Ben-do1bf2 жыл бұрын
I never really commented much on this because I doubt he intended the video to be portrayed the way it was, but I basically stopped watching Slope's Game Room with that Amico video. The part that peeved me was when after most of the guests he invited pointed out all the problems with using "NFTs" as fake physical game licenses, he immediately went to argue the opposite of them with no evidence, and then said that it "couldn't be done before" without NFTs so therefor using the NFTs was an acceptable solutions.. Not even going into the fact that doesn't solve the issues people are concerned about with digital games because.... well it doesn't, it also could have been done before. Even if the people he invited had pointed that out (I can't recall if they had or not), I feel it would have been best to have maybe asked some experts (and I mean software and networking experts, not "NFT experts") before covering the issue if he wasn't sure. Again I think this was just an issue of him going into a topic not fully informed and in turn giving his honest opinion without realizing how bad it would look, but it really rubbed me the wrong way, both in terms of being informed as a host but also in terms of considering his own guest's opinions.
@BainesMkII2 жыл бұрын
I honestly don't trust Ibbertson (Slope's Game Room). His continued Amico support in spite of the evidence, particularly while claiming he's been critical of the system all along, has been highly dubious. More so when you consider that roughly half of his channels videos cover and call out various crowd funding scams. (Which gets into another issue, Ibbertson in particular refusing to acknowledge even the possibility that anything might by problematic about the whole Amico situation is probably enough to convince a number of less informed viewers that there is nothing to the various anti-Amico claims.) When his Amico video drew negative comments, he was clearly annoyed. When the Intellivision financial report story broke, Ibbertson's response was instead to complain about his commenters posting negative comments to his Amico videos, and that it might be the last we heard about it from him.
@Ben-do1bf2 жыл бұрын
@@BainesMkII I haven't been following him since that initial video but thats all making me doubt him genuinely a bit more. I was dubious of him being so un-critical of a crowd funded project that many thought was a scam with his content being mostly "look at this crowd funded project that everyone thought was a scam it was such a scam" but at the time I felt more concerned about what was clearly off from what I was familiar with, that the NFT usage is clearly a farce. That he started to even go against clear evidence of at a minimum, issues with the Amico is certainly more concerning.
@heisensaul55382 жыл бұрын
@@BainesMkII I never watched Slope's game room, but I did stop watching ReviewtechUSA b/c of him deciding to jump on the Amico bandwagon to "own" Pat and Ian. He platformed Tommy Tallerico giving him multiple interviews and praise. That was the final straw for me after I had felt there was a huge decline in the quality in his videos in the first place.
@callak_99742 жыл бұрын
Wait, it COULDN'T be done before? There's such a thing as a digital code for a video game, and that's existed for a long time now. Just need to have a valid key and an account, voila! Also it can only be used once. I don't watch Slope's Game Room, but that was a really stupid thing for Ibbertson to say.
@Ben-do1bf2 жыл бұрын
@@callak_9974 He was claiming that game sharing couldn't be done before because no one offers it so clearly you can't do it. Which... no, no one offers it because it makes absolutely no business sense, theres been patents for it for years from companies like Apple and Microsoft, and I doubt NFTs would offer anything genuinely more superior than the ecommerce platforms weve spent decades improving.
@ivanvargas24252 жыл бұрын
Your videos haven’t popped up on my feed for 1 weeks. I actually forgot about your channel until Fleamarket Sunday reminded me today. They use to go up on my feed all the time
@mikemartinez56542 жыл бұрын
Open those games Pat, you could have variants!
@mikemartinez56542 жыл бұрын
my bad , meant to say "empty boxes".
@ezg20002 жыл бұрын
No. Those sealed boxes can be worth a whopping $1 in 20 years. 😁
@juicyfruit63112 жыл бұрын
SEA-EL-DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@kevinconnor31872 жыл бұрын
He’s absolutely the Tommy Wiseau of video games.
@parakathepyro2 жыл бұрын
At least Tommy used his own money
@billconiglio40242 жыл бұрын
Night Stalker has been lost to the ether. No updates from Other Ocean or Mike Mika has me wondering if they saw the writing on the wall and stopped production.
@PatTheNESpunk2 жыл бұрын
Night Stalker and Cloudy Mountain have not been worked on since 2019, according to sources and evidence.
@billconiglio40242 жыл бұрын
@@PatTheNESpunk Not surprising then. Night Stalker was the one title that made me preorder day 1 because I love Mikes studios (and the original title). Luckily I got my $100 back last year when shit really started hitting the fan. Took over a month to get it back (with very little communication) so I'm hopeful the folks you mentioned that are still waiting can get theirs back.
@michael_stout792 жыл бұрын
Jon taffer said it the best shut it down
@PatrickHusting2 жыл бұрын
I got my preorder money back with one email just 2 weeks ago
@heisensaul55382 жыл бұрын
I just watched the unboxing video, and it seems like they said a lot of nothing in it. A whole minute was wasted on the language feature b/c this is the European model they are showing off and of course they have to mention that Italian is the second language b/c "It's Tommy's favorite!" And as far as the games go, they only show off four. I'm gonna stop talking about it, b/c I'm sure you guys will have much more to say about it next week, but they did turn off the comments for the Unboxing video lol
@XanthinZarda2 жыл бұрын
Oh, it's more than nothing. It's net negative. Machine translated languages, box & product are all beat to hell, hand cut manual missing languages, US plug in EU box, EAN missing, no certs on anything?
@heisensaul55382 жыл бұрын
@@XanthinZarda I cant wait for the podcast this week to talk about how dumb this stunt for Intellivision was lol
@gogoarcade2 жыл бұрын
Pat and Ian got them scared
@KahlessTheUnforgettable2 жыл бұрын
Any chance Amico will get a TAPEWORM TOMMY game?
@foxmatrix25052 жыл бұрын
for the record i remember SLOPES comparing the amico to the SEGA PICO it upset me because the PICO actually came out and it was actually educational and fun for my younger brother and I even got involved in trying to find more games for it (which became difficult) this amico just tainted the gaming world.
@juicyfruit63112 жыл бұрын
Geezus. I bought the Pico for my niece and I ended up using the thing myself. I babysat her and I played it while she was sleeping. The Amico isn't even released. Slopes made a bad comparison.
@worldofretrogameplay69632 жыл бұрын
Slope was very transparent about his videos of the Amico. He said no one from IE was paying him, and the only investment he has in the Amico console is a pre-order. That’s it. I doubt Slope is ignoring everything surrounding the Amico right now. I suspect he will have a ‘scammer’ video posted on his channel, once the dust settles.
@nick6var2 жыл бұрын
Loren Ipsum is standard placeholder text for graph designers, and programmers probably use it, too. I'm guessing they threw on the Starfox text when they weren't getting paid. It was a test to see if the Amico team would catch it. It's the perfect f-u!
@hermanmcclain60002 жыл бұрын
I'll be WAITING for the AMICO Documentary in the coming months / years 😉
@DikkieOBS2 жыл бұрын
Their controller looks like Zune...
@IcyBird4202 жыл бұрын
What's up with the unboxing video they did yesterday for the Amico?
@XanthinZarda2 жыл бұрын
So there's this fellow, "Stop Drop & Retro". This is the "Screw You" update. Where they puppet whatever they've got to rub it into your face that they've taken your money. As was the case of the Aido social robot.
@jbfarley Жыл бұрын
Blatant scam
@Templars10052 жыл бұрын
Look Pat, that "game journalist" is in love. Do you understand? LOVE. LEAVE THE MAN ALONE!!!! LOVE WILL PREVAIL!!!
@DijaVlogsGames2 жыл бұрын
The saddest thing about this Amico failure is that a good amount of people will lose their jobs.
@ralsei31572 жыл бұрын
But what does this mean for Earthworm Jim 4??
@Rockysbeats2 жыл бұрын
Bing Bang Boop Bop Boy-oy-oy-oing cuckoo Amico!! 👾
@cookiesusa31432 жыл бұрын
Is 180 good price for a psx, ps2, ps3 and original xbox w 15 games?
@jstrotha09752 жыл бұрын
If they work it's a steal.
@trentgaming42112 жыл бұрын
Yes
@themadchallenger54902 жыл бұрын
Depending on the games and condition.
@rc_matic2 жыл бұрын
Not really. If I was selling these, I’d happily take $180. Takes up too much space
@jstrotha09752 жыл бұрын
@@themadchallenger5490 The fuck are you talking about, a trashed but working PS2 goes for $80 alone.
@shoked992 жыл бұрын
Send the physical products to WATA to be graded. 😆
@Lando001002 жыл бұрын
This time next year i bet there "Physical" games go for pennies 🤣 At least this is one L Scalpers well have to take. Seriously there's some one right now with boxes of these things that might as well be toilet paper. I'll pay 20 bucks right for all 8. I don't collect for money but memories and this is a big one.
@FloridaMan2132 жыл бұрын
I say the next Jake Paul PPV needs Tommy vs Pat!
@ItsGametime692 жыл бұрын
That companies twitter says in Jan they were working on a Snow game. So are they really gone.
@ElSonk2 жыл бұрын
January 2021
@nickthelick2 жыл бұрын
I am curious as to how Tommy acquired his wealth. I mean, was it just the music that he did for games? Did he program the games, or did he own the IPs or something and get royalties? 🤔 OR... Did he earn it from touring with his band? (possible I suppose, but highly unlikely!) 🤔 But yeah, I'm really curious! 😊
@ASAN20422 жыл бұрын
Steven Tyler loan
@sloppynyuszi2 жыл бұрын
He earned his cash doing video game music, invested some money around wisely, hosted the shows, and managed to sell his music in ways no other video game composer at the time could. Obviously being related to Steve Tyler from Aerosmith didn’t hurt, but I don’t think he threw cash at Tommy as the other commenter alluded to. I think he just gave him the right contacts, and channels to make his money. This whole Amico thing is really sad to see, as the dude was quite accomplished in 90s gaming, shame about his ego. He used to give some quite harsh reviews on his reviews on the run segment of electric playground. This Amico saga seems like a Karma for that 😅
@juicyfruit63112 жыл бұрын
From Cousin Tony. He calls in once in a while to document Tommy's meltdown.
@KeithPhillips2 жыл бұрын
Haven't you played *Color a Dinosaur* on the NES?
@lasskinn4742 жыл бұрын
Tv gigs probably main source, tbh. If he made 100k for some years and say 50k for the rest thats enough for his 'richness'.
@poposterous2362 жыл бұрын
Here's to the memories of things that never actually happened...
@Illcastashadow1 Жыл бұрын
Lol I love this disaster. There's some psychological term for getting relief from your own problems by listen to other people's problems which are more critical/worse than yours. I can't think of it now but that's whats got me so roped in on following this story. Bravo
@WillyWooly2 жыл бұрын
Tommy himself will file a lawsuit against Intellivision for not launching console he wanted them to make.
@tocu982 жыл бұрын
I do think you buying those trinkets make sense as you report on this. The way this company is going and the fans you know in 5 - 10 years you will likely have to deal with Tommy Gaslighting the situation and having the phyical product as the recipe of his failure to utterly shut that down as well as some peace of mind you have a smoking gun of proof. Legit of people that have bought them you should not feel dirty no one likely has more usefulness for them than anyone else on the planet. I do hope for your well being of being able to talk about other things that the company closes and we dont have the onion of bad like activision.