Intellivision President Tommy Tallarico SUED

[@PatTheNESpunk]

Thanks to Kevtris and folks like wh1tepointer on the intellivision_amico reddit for investigating the details of this mess. www.reddit.com/r/Intellivision_Amico/comments/zzmfls/a_closer_look_at_the_office_chairs_at/

[@WhitePointerGaming]

Hey that's me, I'm wh1tepointer :) Thanks for the shoutout!

[@joshua.snyder]

There are companies near every major city who have massive warehouses which sell used, nice office equipment. Tommy really is clueless.

[@mcorivervsaf]

@@WhitePointerGaming Excellent job, and thank you for sharing this information with everyone!

[@SmaMan]

Damn, Kevtris is not only an amazing FPGA developer, but also a furniture spotter?

[@B1FFCO]

You should be thanking Darius truxton. He said it was a scam from day 1

[@trooper9249]

No, you don't understand--Tommy Tallarico is the first human being to ever work on Sonic the Hedgehog and made out with Shigeru Miyamoto while working on the Metroid games together (his mother is very proud). He can't just settle for regular, affordable office furniture like some peasant. He deserves to have the finest, most expensive furniture in all the lands, personally handcrafted by the greatest artisans to ever live.

[@visual_Memories]

Of all the things for this guy to get sued over. The Amico saga has been insane from start to finish.

[@M-NX]

and a lot of the things, Pat is guilty of.

[@tharimrattler]

It's not finished

[@ELSTERLING]

@@M-NX If your global console business can be derailed by a youtube channel with 250k subs periodically reporting on it you were never going to succeed anyway.

[@ladynikkie]

Oh man! I would love to hear the Tommy voicemail over this one

[@Azuris190]

Good Entertaining, financed by a lot of People haha

[@brandonwenzel2844]

Tommy is the living representation of the episode of Rugrats where Tommy and Chucky imagined they were big people. He's a child pretending to be a businessman. He wants the big-boy toys and to be seen as someone important in the industry; and for awhile he got away with it. But eventually that shit comes to roost. Once he was in the top spot and got to be the one making the main decisions from the ground up, it's become clear that he has no idea what he's doing.

[@XanthinZarda]

Worse still, he bought the name of a brand that was from his childhood and immediately used it for a toilet. He took one of his toys, and _ruined it._ He can't even recoup the investment cost because he's tanked the value. And what is he gonna do? He doesn't have a child, and I doubt he's gonna start having any at nearly 60.

[@sloppynyuszi]

@@XanthinZarda what does this have to do with him having or not having kids? Looking how he handled this, should he have kids? Not everyone should have kids.

[@AmazingFrenchman]

Amazing I was about to comment, look at him trying to look like a big boy! I would've had more confidence in it if I had seen a bunch of people in a basement assembling units by hand... lol

[@SCAGMONKY]

One should not view this logically this was a scam from the beginning which is just a projection of who Tommy really is not someone I'd leave my young son with

[@aryinc]

He wanted more and indeed become bigger. But he completely destroyed his and others future. He's all alone in his house now with all the toys to keep him satisfied. Remember the cribs episode. I can't rewatch it. If you do you see the man he is today. The problems occur there.

[@protomanv2]

Worked for a decent size I.T company. They were growing so moved into a new building and bought new all this stupid stuff. Those same file cabinets on wheels with cushioned tops the stupid over priced chairs. 1 year later they started laying people off like crazy to try to save costs. Funny part they actually hired the person who sold them all their furniture as a sales person to sell computers since she did such a good job conning them into the office furniture. They fired her in front of me since her pc sales were so low 8 months later.

[@ccricers]

I worked for a website agency that's somewhat like this. Got a bunch of cool decor but they pay their employees peanuts. One review on Glassdoor are like, stop buying fancy couches for the front desk room and give your workers some actual benefit plans.

[@GeistInTheMachine]

@@ccricers Workers are expendable.

[@GraveMemories]

@@GeistInTheMachine and the boss looks like an idiot after his whole staff walks off People nowadays aren't suckered that stay at a job willingly knowing they're getting fucked

[@NinjaKittyRetro]

Tommy's ego woudln't allow him to get basic office furniture. He didn't need fold up chairs or Costco specials, lots of small businesses and start ups can find good quality office equipment at reasonable prices both new or from liquidation. What's more telling is that the equipment they did buy shows that they have the mind set of an office from 20 years ago. These days places like Intellivision should of had hoteling stations where the workers have interchangeable and basic working areas. Buying expensive cabinets and unnecessary board room tables was a waste of money.

[@ELSTERLING]

@@googleuser3163 Tommy has always been at war with Eastasia.

[@TheCommanderTaco]

I can understand the feeling of wanting things new, but yeah for running a startup business they truly didn't need any fancy new stuff lol.

[@CaptainRufus]

If they were smart the Amico wouldn't have been made, Tommy wouldn't have been allowed to speak to the public, and a few of the Intellivision game remakes would have been made for digital storefronts and maybe a LRG release to guage interest and get some initial money in.

[@TheCommanderTaco]

@@CaptainRufus i wouldn't have gone against the Amico being made, but I would have seen it more as another plug and play with a figure ( at the time) of influential influence ( not that some would argue he still is lol) being behind it. While admittedly not for me the initial pitch had some promise for a small time family friendly console yet Tommy kept trying to add more and more saying "we can play with the big boys, but that is not what we are doing" lol.

[@FIXTREME]

@@googleuser3163 There's an entire playlist documenting why Tommy is *not* a genuine guy, but a scam artist.

[@MerelyAFan]

Its hilarious to realize that the entire run of Intellivision was Tommy essentially paying for a "Fantasy CEO Camp" ala Fantasy Baseball except walking he's away from it with likely crippling debt as opposed to a nice Yankees jersey.

[@JoeyFreeze]

My mother gave me that book “The Secret” and told me it would change my life. I shall never trust her again.

[@MarcusAnthonyCornwallWilliams]

Never trusting her again is a pretty big life change.

[@MountainHomeJerrel]

@@MarcusAnthonyCornwallWilliams 🤣

[@atarimetalhead]

My mom gave me the DVD...never watched it 🤣

[@theautisticguitarist7560]

I'd say it will change your life, because once you read it you instantly learn how to sniff out "law of attraction" bs.

[@nothingsacred8684]

I feel like it's a mystificstion of "You become what you think" like yeah the more time you put into thinking about something or as you change your thought process, that will inevitably change your actions and in changing your actions, so too your consequences. It's not magic, but some people want to make it out to be

[@Channel9001]

Remember when H.Bomberguy inadvertently fell down the rabbit-hole of Tommy's compounding lies? As soon as he mentioned Tommy I knew it would be good.

[@Rando1975]

Tommy's complete incompetence at business continues to amaze.

[@WhitePointerGaming]

There's also the 19 motorised standing desks, worth around $1200-$1300 each. Insane.

[@kronictonic]

What the hell were they doing in that office for all that time. They might not have had 90 employees but they had some. It's almost baffling that nothing came out in all that time

[@DarkZerol]

Just sitting there posting crap on social media and holding "meetings" (i.e. screwing around at the office). Considering Tommy Tallarico and his office staff aren't even programmers, engineers or technical support specialists nor are they even known for their noticeable business acumen. So why would people like them even need such an office to begin with is anyone guess. 🤷

[@ladynikkie]

Those offices were way too big for a startup company. Tommy pretty much took it way too big for granted.

[@GrandmasDay32]

I recently worked for a startup company that did the same shit. Spending money on super high end furnishings and recreational items to impress customers we didn’t even have yet. The investors were not thrilled when they walked in. The business was eating itself alive. Had to get the hell out of there.

[@Bobbleheads56]

The intellivision saga is not unique in the world of tech startups. The ceo just drew attention on himself by attacking people online

[@OneArmedRetroGamer]

Matt Mcmusles is chomping at the bit for this to wrap up so he can make the What Happened.

[@dendostar5436]

He’ll need to edit the 42,000 hours of currently recorded material.

[@OneArmedRetroGamer]

@@dendostar5436 true. It's going to have to be at least 10 1 hour episodes

[@dendostar5436]

@@OneArmedRetroGamer Whole other episodes for Tommy.

[@CaptainRufus]

Its not like he is ever gonna cover Ultima 9...

[@ryanyoder7573]

Omg i bought Ultima 9 years ago and was wondering today if he ever covered it. Weird.

[@RobertGuido]

I feel bad for some of the original people that are still alive that worked at Mattel for that were associated with the old and television. Tommy just finds a new way to keep dragging the name in the mud even after the horse has been dead

[@minimalchill]

It’s pretty nice how Tommy has boasted his own ego for decades now and it’s two podcasters who have completely exposed and dismantled him. As well as the documentaries covering his lies. Gotta love it. I said this bc you KNOW he believes he’s above being pulled down by a couple of podcasters. But Tommy, ya dumb dumb, ya did and ya are and ya done! Peace out bruh ✌🏻

[@CheckmateFixit]

This whole Amico situation reminds me of the fable if the emporers new clothes. Tommy has his minions praising him and doing his bidding when in fact there was nothing there at all.

[@azure1259]

This whole saga is now Hollywood movie worthy, I think a movie likely will be made about this now, especially if Tommy is personally financially ruined as a result of this. Pat and Ian should start touting out their movie rights. Anyone who has run a prolonged, profitable business, even as an independent contractor has vastly more experience and business sense than Tommy will ever have. Ian nailed it a year or so back when he called Tommy a cosplay CEO.

[@akaimizu1]

If made a movie, please please use Joey Kuras as chief sound engineer and put his name in big bold letters at the beginning of the credits.

[@PlutoniumBoss]

This really is the comedy gift that keeps on giving. Every time I think we've reached the peak, the clouds part and even greater hilarity is revealed.

[@TheBlueSkyRanger]

When I was trying to start a business, I was advised to get my desk from Army surplus. "The first thing an investor will notice is your desk. If it's fancy, they know you are more interested in flashing money than making money, and they'll bail. If they see Army surplus, they know you are trying to spend your money wisely and they will be more likely to bite." There are pictures of Jeff Bezos at the start of Amazon working at an Army surplus desk. Everything I was seeing of the Intellivision office would have had me running for the hills, whether as an investor or just a coder.

[@fattony6203]

During the live chat "A Google user" was either trolling or was TT using a pseudonym, touting how they played the Amico and how great it was, also said Tommy is so rich this doesn't matter. I nearly fell out of my comfy, affordable $120 office chair laughing.

[@F1JV]

Probably(most likely) was Relic Lamer.

[@fattony6203]

@@F1JV He must've spent time in one of Tommy's $400 brain washing office chairs.

[@poboxchristmas380]

@@F1JV sounds just like that creep Relic Gamer. He was always in streams saying that.

[@F1JV]

@@poboxchristmas380 …exactly…he was one of Tommy’s best goons and has been unseen/unheard for some time now. I don’t think he can stay completely silent…it pains him so much when Tommy is belittled especially by Pat & Ian. Watching that video of Relic wearing the VGL gear & catching Tommy’s air-guitar pick is a Cult O’Shills Tommy worshipping classic.

[@gmti486]

Hes in the comment section here too.

[@paulrr5711]

At my previous company the CEO told me we were sitting on $800 office chairs. He wanted us to be comfortable while working all day. But we were a successful little business that had been around for quite a long time.

[@mbern4530]

That's not even that much for an office chair. Herman Miller chairs are probably the top of the line and cost around $5000, my office is full of them. More than I would ever pay for a chair, but I can't deny they're the best chairs I have ever used.

[@PinBiohazard]

That's the difference, you are a successful small business who had profits that you could sink back in to upgrade and make the staff more comfortable Intellivision did even more without a product or sales of a product

[@paulrr5711]

@@PinBiohazard Yup. Delusions of grandeur over in Amiicoland.

[@Fragger-1]

I was really hoping some legal action would start to be taken. While this wasn't what I expected, I would guess that this going to start a chain reaction of various business partners, investors, etc. following suit. The sooner they're held accountable, the less they're able to slink off quietly.

[@lqcrow]

I have a fantastic office chair from the local thrift store that I bought for $25. He could have even gone that route to save money. It boggles my mind. As if the concept of "I started this business in my garage" is somehow a shameful thing.

[@midimusicforever]

The first of many lawsuits to follow! About scam from the beginning though - It actually was, in the sense that they were deceitful from the start. But I also think that they started out with the intention of the Amico becoming an actual product.

[@MasterZebulin]

When's the assassination coming?

[@jeremiahblum7833]

Who would have guessed the guy with an Indiana jones room in his house would overspend on office furniture 😆

[@ladynikkie]

That and opening multiple offices no startup company does that

[@juggalo4life247mfrs]

There's still a guy on KZbin making videos promoting the amico.he shows off a system that he has,and claims that it was shipped to him as promised.

[@mikemartinez5654]

He's a juggalo too.

[@XanthinZarda]

Does he have an obsession with wristbands?

[@juggalo4life247mfrs]

Cool.i just thought it was funny how one,or two people actually got what they were promised.

[@1984Chandler]

I hope somebody tells Holly and her dogs that Tommy’s ego overspent on chairs and desks when he couldve just went to a thrift store or marketplace and bought stuff for Pennies on the dollar. I deliver to nice office buildings in the cities and some furnish theirs with goodwill couches and recliners..makes them look very cozy and fun. But no not Tommy, his ego is far more superior beyond comprehension for such a silly thought. LETS GO BIG…BIG BIG!!

[@ELSTERLING]

Right? My wife is a chef for a place that does high-end event catering and they not only get most of their fancy dining tables used but they redonate them when they're a bit worn to keep the cycle going.

[@XanthinZarda]

I hope Houdini finally got housebroken. Seeing puppy training pads and dog crap in Tommy's house tours is gonna _tank_ the resale value.

[@goodtarjones]

They needed all those filing cabinets to hold all the licensing agreements from every video game company and family friendly toy company from the last 30 years. I heard that Tommy is friends with one of the guys and they just happened to be talking about it the day someone randomly brought it up.

[@KSPRAYDAD]

Think of how many Guinness Record Plaques he could store in those

[@fanciestofcats7111]

I am sad the podcast for the most part is going away for now. I wish I found these cool dudes years ago. Started listening around 2 years ago when searching for an Intellivision update.

[@TheBigfootsfeet]

Been watching Pat before the podcast started. Makes me feel old even though I was a young kid

[@scubasteve7439]

Is the cu podcast ending?

[@BainesMkII]

@@scubasteve7439 They announced it at the beginning of the full episode, which is also on KZbin.

[@synthfreak291]

​@@scubasteve7439 Not exactly. Episode 350 will be the last weekly episode. After that they will do occasional specials, until who knows.

[@poopy_fingers3324]

@@synthfreak291 i haven't listened yet, but did they give any reason? like, has it just run the course? it seems like the enthusiasm is still there. or are there going to be other ventures?

[@marioq8395]

Tommy's buddy Miyamoto son recommended this company to him. Only the best for industry legend Tommy.

[@bergfruehling]

Where there ever enough employees for all those chairs?

[@ELSTERLING]

Frankly they didn't even have enough employees to justify a full office. 100% the kind of startup that could have used a small workshop, cloud sharing and a meeting room to get everything done. More complex tech projects than the Amico have been successfully designed and built in garages and bedrooms.

[@mikemartinez5654]

There's more empty chairs than one of Tommy's VGL shows.

[@ccricers]

@@ELSTERLING My guess is after trying to attract legit VCs and angel investors didn't work out, they just went for low-info investors who subscribe to Palm Beach and get hooked in by superficial things like office spaces. It was a decent play (that is, it was very deceptive but it worked), but it came at a much bigger cost than they expected.

[@XanthinZarda]

No, and frankly there should have been maybe 6 employees in one office. Tops.

[@koalakoa]

$120k With total payments being around $180k and monthly payments around $3k for 5 years or 60 months you are looking at a rate of 18% APR. A private loan even from hedge funds isn't that high closer to 15% during that time they signed the contract. However, furniture sales companies typically charge the same rate as credit card companies. Which at the time was closer to 20-29% APR for poor credit rated clients and 10-19% for medium ratings, prime-9 for best clients. So what intellivision signed was not a loan shark scheme but more a credit card account. My guess is that they had little to no credit history as a company but had to be co-signed or guaranteed by Tom. The rate more than doubled I would say because they defaulted. So they probably were charged 4-8% APR originally but then defaulted bringing the rate up for the defaulted amount ONLY not the entire term of the loan. Once current the standard rate applies to the principal. Still really stupid stuff not to pay your bills. Looks like the company bought the most expensive of everything that fortune 500 companies buy for their executives. The brand is called Herman Miller each chair can range by model from $800 to $1,800USD. EXTREMELY stupid to spend so much money as a startup what the hell were they thinking?

[@XanthinZarda]

What's even dumber is that you have to consider the circumstances of _when_ all this was getting rented. When nobody was allowed to go into their expensive empty warehouse office. That was bigger than the Breaker or Metric 12 plants my father worked at while he was at Dell!

[@joshua.snyder]

And Tallarico thinks he can just do more concerts with his video game cover band, VGL and hope this gets glossed over? 😂

[@jambobbyb124]

Why are you guys always so mean to Tommy, he always sounded nice when he called in..

[@jdavis7993]

Because he's dishonest and manipulative. He _comes across as nice_ but thats glib superficial charm, not genuine human compassion.

[@mikemartinez5654]

Bewm!

[@THENAMEISQUICKMAN]

"STOP PUTTING THOSE STUPID RBI BASEBALL STICKERS EVERYWHERE"

[@chrisnizer5702]

Just when you think it couldn't get any worse, that the squandering has finally bottomed out and all of the fecal matter has hit the fan, T.T. somehow rolls up his sleeves and buries the company/the project/the investors a little bit deeper. A crack addict could have managed the money better than this! Thanks for the update guys, love the show. Semper Fidelis!

[@PaulWerkema]

Intellivision should have used that money to hire someone to build the console. Also, why do you need a filing cabinet when everything is digital?

[@linuxrobotgeek]

What a way to start the year for the Amico. Also Phil gave another "update" that is completely meaningless.

[@bluefates58]

What else is new

[@linuxrobotgeek]

@@bluefates58 Yep, still claiming they're looking for a production solution even though they claimed to have entered production in Nov. 2021.

[@ccricers]

If Tommy has verbal diarrhea coming out of his mouth, Phil is constipated by comparison. He rarely speaks up, very tight lipped.

[@bluefates58]

Have we gotten an answer for that earthworm Jim game? Was even in production?

[@ZForceFFC]

Wait what? I didn't get any update! I've been chomping at the bit for an "official" Amico update to laugh at since Christmas!

[@chadbyron1886]

I think we are all in the wrong business. We should all be equipping businesses with 70 dollar office chairs bought off Amazon and up charging 50 thousand dollars for the install...

[@thecunninlynguist]

Scammers gonna scam, Tommy gonna tallerico

[@muticere]

I’ve worked for small companies that are profitable and they still get second hand chairs and desks because they know not to blow it all on new stuff. And sure it sometimes sucks to sit on an old chair but I didn’t bitch about it too much bc I at least I knew my paycheck would get deposited every payday and they were able to splurge on good insurance for us.

[@juannunez1929]

$3015 a month is a lot for just furniture. For that price you can rent a fully equipped office in a big market through a service that rents office space.

[@XanthinZarda]

Why rent? For 3015 once at a thrift store, you could have probably furnished all the space the Amico _actually_ needed.

[@juannunez1929]

​@@XanthinZarda Generally speaking, because time is money and successful businesses of a medium to large size don't have time to go thrifting. There are also businesses that only need a temporary office for a few months while working in a project. It doesn't make sense for the Amico team to have an office at all. A tiny start up prototyping an unfinished product should be doing the bulk of their work from home, but there are businesses where renting a fully loaded office makes sense.

[@josiahsterling7308]

You guys missed an opportunity to buy 2 of the chairs and use on your podcast.

[@ogre706]

That would have been beautiful.

[@ericinla65]

SO GLAD I didn't prepay for 2 of them like I was planning on doing. One for me and one for my brother.

[@cartmann94]

Tommy wants Chairs!!!!

[@gvetech]

$400 a pop for chairs and 90 of them at that? What a freaking waste.

[@SuperSteaman]

And all they needed was some fuel...

[@THENAMEISQUICKMAN]

He signed a goddamn FIVE YEAR CONTRACT?! How does it get worse EVERY TIME?

[@dollarama8652]

When a scam hits your eye like a Big lawsuit pie That's Amureeee! 🎵🎻😅

[@ELSTERLING]

Most new furniture prices, even from more reasonable companies, are designed to take advantage of those who don't know any better. I haven't bought a desk, set of shelves or sofa brand new once and still have super nice, sturdy furniture bought at between a tenth and a fiftieth of what I'd pay for it in a store. It really seems like everyone who actually did business with INTV was either desperate, as clueless as Tommy or knew he was a sucker and decided to absolutely milk him.

[@spencers4121]

Companies and business use these services, because they have the stock and people and trucks to set it up.

[@ELSTERLING]

@@dissraps Business buy used all the time but even they refused to they could have still paid a fraction of what they did if they knew what they were doing. For example, some company is going to get the same furniture Tommy did at maybe 1/4 of the price or less when they buy it as bankrupt stock in an auction.

[@ShwettyBowls]

Well, now we know why all those games and consoles owned by Tommy were "sold off" at auction

[@zachhoward9099]

His house in San Juan Capistrano was on the market for just under 3 million and the price has been lowered by $300k to just under $2.7 million and still no takers. You can even see his Ferrari in one of the photos outside the house.

[@SKMCTV]

In a digital world what is the point of filing cabinets? The only departments I can think that needs them is shipping/receiving and accounting and they were doing none of that.

[@JessHull]

I'm happy to see some Amico/Tallirico content from you guys. NGL I was sad to see the Amico saga come to an end because I loved hearing you guys talk about it.

[@sunnohh]

An HHbomberguy video, a lawsuit, and a garbo console. What a proud time for Tommy T

[@STP.83]

The Amico died over a year ago.

[@hughmyers8583]

Costco sells a really nice office chair with an ergonomic mesh back for $100.

[@yukizboy3046]

Even with super expensive furniture I don't know how you can raise around 15-20 mil and have nothing to show for it at the end of the day.

[@d0nKsTaH]

They should go after the "Intellivision" name, logo, rights, and other properties. Get it out of his fking hands

[@worldofretrogameplay6963]

It’s about time! Let’s see if his inflated ego can write the check!

[@gdubbz884]

Tommy and Phil's dead relatives have a higher chance of releasing the Amico.

[@kevinconnor3187]

Why only 44 rolling filing cabinets for a start up business, why not 60 or 80?

[@ruadeil_zabelin]

11:17 Sure you can do them cheaper, but do you even need a desk drawer at all? For what? Are you printing files? If you want to save money; do it there. Make the office paperless too so you dont have to pay for printers, pens, paper, ink and all that crap. You can do things digitally; its not 1980. Also I bought a dual monitor stand off amazon for like 60$ and it works absolutely fine.

[@zpoxy]

I've been away from the video game industry and news for about 5 years due to raising children. This is literally the first time I am hearing about this, and trying to piece things together. But basically I'm getting the tail end of this failed project, and I am just stunned 😵

[@RobertGuido]

Penelec what the guy said I would go to the thrift store. In fact I have when I work for a small start-up I went and got some old school desks for $40 a piece. And then we clean them up and make them as look as nice as possible. The nicest one set at the reception office four years until they could upgrade

[@Gildog77]

Is it victory lap time yet?

[@STP.83]

Ok I'm shocked again about the amount of money this company used for nonsense. Paid with the money of the investors and backers, congratulations! Hopefully people will learn from this story.

[@andywolan]

11:30 - to be fair, those filing cabinets can also be sat on like a chair. Not sure if that is worth extra money unless you are short on office space.

[@PatTheNESpunk]

Who sits on filing cabinets?!?

[@andywolan]

@@PatTheNESpunk Co-workers who want to drop by for a conversation in your cubical, but your cubicle is too small for a guest chair. Just roll-out the mini filing cabinet on wheels with a seat cushion on top and they can sit on it. (Stood about 2-2.5' tall.) We had them at a past job after our office moved to a new building with smaller office cubicles. Worked ok. No one broken another person's filing cabinet/seat while I was there. However, I must note that the units we had looked far sturdier than the ones I see in the Amiico office. (Steal construction all around, no wood.) It's possible those Amiico filing cabinets cannot be sat on, which would be insane given their price tag.

[@RobertGuido]

You can go to the thrift store and find file cabinets for damn near free. I can't really think of why they software hardware company would need a lot of file cabinets. Most of the stuff they work on it digital anyways.. but then again you can't apply logic this situation it'll just make you go insane

[@llary]

Need somewhere to file all the debt collection letters and subpoenas

[@callak_9974]

At most, they needed perhaps 3 full sized file cabinets? Makes more sense to have a file server and have everything electronic though for the most part.

[@XanthinZarda]

@@callak_9974 A thin client and a stylish basket from Aldi.

[@juicyfruit6311]

Facebook has groups that give away stuff for free. Got used Hon filing cabinets ($400 each), desks, etc. As long as you aren't picky over condition, it's amazing what can be gotten for nothing.

[@jamespilcher5287]

I'm still in the facebook group for the diehard believers, and there are still people who think this thing might come out. It's quite fascinating.

[@SlapadelicMusic]

for my home studio i got a nice office chair, a big metal desk with multiple drawers, and a regular filing cabinet for free or damn close to free, because a thrift store was moving locations and I asked. I also have a bookshelf and a couple of tv trays that I use for space. works great and I doubt i spent two hundred bucks. that way I could more easily afford the expensive necessary stuff like the computer and mics and DAW and etc, which I buy and upgrade as I can, I built up a nice home studio for cheap that somewhat regularly improves noticeably. I'm not Captain Finance either, this just feels like basic shit. get what is in reach, use what you have, build from there

[@SlapadelicMusic]

(the chair and desk were from the manager's office, they were not for sale at the store)

[@holdingpattern245]

after seeing that hbomberguy thing, I can now only see Tommy as a joke in man form, and everything he does now makes so much more sense

[@TransLauraNumbers]

I was not aware I needed a podcast about 2 people yelling about office furniture. I loved this, please roast more offices.

[@mixedhairless]

Peeps would be sitting on milk crates before I spent that kind of capitol… WTF

[@CaptainRufus]

They didn't just go to Staples or Office Depot or something? Jeez!

[@TheCreepypro]

well he wanted to be a big shot so now he can get sued like one

[@witecatj6007]

Not only is he a fifth rate tv host and a sixth rate composer, he is the first rate scammer walkways knew he was.

[@jacobbaranowski]

That Christmas 🎄 episode was perfect, good 👍 job Pat and Frank

[@tba11]

If only there was a short sound effect from a game to show pain, maybe used from a well known game

[@darkridearts]

Meanwhile, the Atari VCS came out and ended its life, and the Evercade handheld came out, and an Evercade home console version came out, and a new revised Evercade handheld come out. And this company is still pretending they are trying to launch hardware smh

[@XanthinZarda]

Don't forget the Playdate, Steam Deck, and a whole plethora more of other electronic gaming products. Plus the Switch still having long legs.

[@Web56k]

IAN!! sad that I’ll be hearing that less😢

[@XanthinZarda]

I really hope that VGL turns out to be a loss for him, as in he loses more money than he makes.

[@dutchbeef8920]

Global corporates spend that kind of money maybe not start ups

[@shenanitims4006]

A quick survey of the scene captured shows how wasteful it was. That building was WAY TOO BIG. There’s Tommy and one person sitting there with a computer. And in the background you can see a beanbag chair on the floor. I.e. what was likely used by the employees. Not to mention, why did they even need two locations? They had nothing to sell. Besides hopes and dreams which will only strike the vulnerable once or twice before that income stream dries up.

[@XanthinZarda]

Why did they need _five_ locations you mean? Two in SoCal, one in Salt Lake, one in Hamburg and one in the UAE.

[@shenanitims4006]

@@XanthinZarda I honestly had no clue they were blowing THAT much money monthly. It’s a wonder they stayed afloat as long as they did. (Though I’d argue Hanburg was probably to keep Germany paying for the development of their games.)

[@WorldofFood]

dude really bought 40 ritzy filing cabinets for this niche mini console. Incomprehensible

[@ZafVirex]

Capper treeper sounds like some mythical monster lol. Gonna miss the weekly format for this show.

[@keyboard_g]

Steelcase chairs are nice. I got a liquidated one for 1/3 off still new in box wrapped in the factory plastic.

[@meatbyproducts]

Companies that furnish offices, do more than just bring the furniture in. If something's broke it gets replaced, if something needs repair they come and fix it.

[@sebastianschulze4970]

Curious what the business case was to invest in the office space in the first place?

[@XanthinZarda]

"Look rich and hope for a buyout." So the rumor goes, anyway. But they weren't even competent enough to pass themselves off as a hot cheap date.

[@sloppynyuszi]

When you ask for money you have to present costs and explain why you want a certain amount. Think of venture capitalists and Angel investors as crypto bros. If you want a million dollar investment, it’s easier to get it with big purchases. What happened with Tommy is not the furniture and other extravagances. It’s that he missed on delivery dates, deadlines and didn’t know how to deal with Chinese manufacturers and outsource people. When I was getting things done in China I had a Russian guy visiting the factory and sending me photo reports daily. He fell for the “trust me bro, sorry you know how it is” vendor. That’s what got him undone.

[@incognitro1420]

How does a 'Company' that doesn't pay their bills, receive any credits whatsoever?

[@UncleSilverGaming]

The money Tommy spent on all this crap could've kept the Unreal servers up for years!

[@NIProductionsLLC]

Pretty sure I saw chairs like those $450.00 dollar ones at Target for about 45 bucks.

[@scarlettmichanco8023]

They should've been working out of co-working spaces and paying for dedicated meeting-rooms until they had money coming in.

[@XanthinZarda]

Meeting rooms? What for? Most of the work was digital. Maybe a conference table?

[@scarlettmichanco8023]

@@XanthinZarda you still need spaces for meeting with clients, potential vendors, or just general so for some privacy. HR may need to do meetings in private. Like, try working a day in your life and understand the need for not everything to be in the open.

[@nothingislogical]

I work for a competent company that has been around for decades and I think they'd lose their minds if they spent $900 on one filing cabinet let alone 44 of them.

[@ladynikkie]

I want to know where they got their furniture from. It had to be imported or something. Plus whoever bought that stuff for pennies in the bucket they made out like bandits. They'll definitely flip it for profit

[@Raveneffect1989]

What’s the next failed console going to be, that’s planned by people who have no idea what they are doing.

[@necrojoe]

This sort of office furniture agreement is quite common. I've worked in the commercial furniture industry for 10 years, and had several clients finance their office furniture...including some larger ones you may have heard of in surprising industries (not just tech startups, I'm talking biotech, law firms, non-profits, etc). It only costs a little more than renting, and it's a better long-term choice because you end up with an asset at the end. But, it's a gamble...one that Intellivision shouldn't have taken. But guys, those mobile peds "the storage cabinets" are not for files and paperwork. Do you think it's 1988? XD They are so an employee has a place to put their purse/bag and lunch during the day. But, yeah...there are cheaper options available. you could get used/liquidated peds from companies that offered lifetime warranties when it was new (just as an indication of build quality) in the hundreds for $100 each. And these liquidation companies are set up to sell to businesses, including delivery, installation, replacing missing locks and keys, etc. They way they did it was insane for their position.

[@XanthinZarda]

Do you think the sausagefest that was the Amico Bro crew really needed a place to put their lunch/purse when the facilities had an onsite kitchen? And even if what you are suggesting is plausible, do you really think they needed more than say, 3 of the damn things?

[@necrojoe]

@@XanthinZarda if I had to guess, the on-site kitchen was likely the first amenity to get cut, if it actually provided meals at all. And I'm not sure why you think men would be any less likely to have bags with them. Most were likely provided with laptops, but besides that, there's medications, jackets, the graphic designers would have had sketchbooks and supplies, rulers etc... But I dont disagree that they only needed a few. My whole point was agreeing that they overspend, but that a $10 desktop file bin wasn't really a viable replacement.

[@XanthinZarda]

@@necrojoe Sketch what, pray tell? Most of the Amico design would have been primarily finished and it's quite clear that a lot of the designs were in Tommy's head, if not simply lifted from elsewhere. Are you suggesting they just wouldn't have dropped directly into Blender?

[@PatTheNESpunk]

"They are so an employee has a place to put their purse/bag and lunch during the day." I would keep my lunch in the office kitchen refridgerator like everyone else, and anything else stayed in my cubicle or 50-year old metal filing cabinet. Again, this is a startup with no revenue. And in the 2020's, I highly doubt they were working with many paper documents anyway -- it's all on the cloud or on a server. This was bravado and show.

[@BH-vh3iu]

That was the only podcast I listened every single episode, while doing dishes, showering etc, wtf dudes, now I have to find something else

[@outsideredge]

If there's ever a documentary on the Intellivision Amico I want the tagline to be: "Intellivision Amico: The hubris on this fucking guy"

[@ladynikkie]

Lol right now the closest documentary you can see is the kick scammers one. Slopes did a pretty good job on it

[@jonhufford6980]

Wasn’t he selling off a bunch of his Nintendo swag on eBay a few months ago? This guys a doof.

[@LarryLopez91]

Yeah probably to pay off these debts lol

[@fattony6203]

He was selling his stuff thru Heritage Auctions at like 5x what the items were actually worth (and that is subjective at best). I dunno what or if anything sold at the prices listed. Pat & Ian covered it in a previous video.

[@jonathont5570]

My office chair was about 900 dollars, thanks boss.