Intense European heatwave parches France's 'garden' Loire Valley - BBC News

The Loire Valley is known as "the Garden of France" - but the garden is withering in intensely hot weather.
France's worst drought since records began has turned lush vegetation into arid fields of brown crops, shrivelling under what is now the fourth heatwave of the year.
There are warnings of a "disaster" if it doesn't rain soon.
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[@richardtheweaver4891]

No, this is not the new normal. It is what folks in the future will call "the good old days" since things are going to get worse.

[@michaelrose2443]

a lot worse: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYrLdISsatmBqbM

[@jimmymaximusace]

Wow, this quote is DEEP

[@frankinmouse]

@D R Exactly..population is the real problem. Anything that is done to combat climate change will always be offset by a large margin by 8 billion and counting humans.

[@paulhawthorne2960]

💩

[@ciararespect4296]

Great bring it on. Lovely and warm here in blighty

[@yijuntey]

Honestly people needs to start caring more about global warming than we are now

[@jasongonzaga9745]

Thats the thing global warming is a myth to the rich people like the governments all over the world and the scientist is just the crazy people in the eyes of the government.

[@yijuntey]

@@jasongonzaga9745 true

[@janetallnutt5767]

And yet, the golf courses are still allowed to water the grass....

[@nuclearcatapult]

Otherwise, rich people would throw a tantrum.

[@Ianmundo]

hottest summer? imagine how many even hotter summers we’ll have in just the next 10 years

[@ronlhubbard1353]

Maybe they should try to drop nuclear bombs into volcanos to cause overcast skies and then cloud seed the clouds to make rain and help global cooling.

[@DrDOOM-xs8jm]

Yeah, pretty much every new summer is the "hottest summer yet". Time to move to Scandinavia i guess

[@embreis2257]

maybe in a few decades we'll manage to interrupt the Gulf stream. then our winters will be bitter cold and the summer still scorching hot. it's going to get funnier every year

[@public.public]

All because the middle class management refuses to manage.

[@public.public]

@@JamesSmith-qs4hx We? Responsibility for what? Maybe you should spend more time outdoors instead of in your Moms basement.

[@leethrelfalllt]

Now I realise why people need all these SUV cars...to be able to drive across dry river beds...genius man

[@carinwiseman4309]

Need to farm with permaculture, rainwater harvesting and sequestration, etc. Climate is changed and agriculture has to change too. No more wasting water.

[@factsoverfear9771]

Rivers are literally disappearing and ppl still deny it ✅✅✅

[@christonamtb4089]

Might not be climate change... the fish might of drunk it all

[@IBTU]

🤦🏻 keep going 🐑

[@michaelrose2443]

I know theses people too-kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYrLdISsatmBqbM

[@Saiyan36912]

Because a lot of people are heavily medicated on drugs or drink or tik tok there all addicted to something to distract them lol all of Europe broke heat records for a 4th year in a row but these people will be the first to go when it kicks off they need people to feed them 😘

[@hmmmmm2634]

These deniers need to be rounded up and dumped in a scorching hot desert forever

[@blinkspacestudio8892]

Once crops die thats it they are gone. I have a small garden with some pots of tomatoes and potatoes. After collecting thousands of liters of water over the spring so I can manage to keep them alive but its running out fast. Its so hot this year I have to water them a bunch of times a day. I cant even imagine trying to run a farm in this weather. You cant just regrow these crops this is a massive problem.

[@debbiehenri345]

Same here. I have a large garden to grow some of our own food. However, the spring has dried up, the well has dried up, the stream dried up once (then we had a little rain and now it is dwindling again). Rainwater butts all dry. I grow most of my veg plants in pots (courgettes, tomatoes, salad leaves) near the house and stream - so it's easier to keep watering them from the can through the day. My apples and blueberries are high up on the hill, where all the other water sources have dried out. It's too much work to carry water up there, esp in this heat, so I'm going to have to leave them to take their chances and hope that the rain promised soon is going to be much more substantial than what we had a week ago. A weird thing is happening - I've noticed that birds are raiding berry bushes before the fruit is ripe. Normally, they won't touch Rowan berries until well into the Autumn, around October when everything else is done. However, this year, they are really laying into the berries early. Likewise, squirrels are raiding hazelnut bushes when they too are far from ready, the nuts themselves about the size of an apple pip. If the squirrels eat the lot, they are going to waste a heck of a lot of good food before it's any good for them, and before everyone else gets to take their share ( because as well as myself, there's a grand number of Jays to support). I've planted dozens of hazels all over my garden, with this year being their first harvest year, but squirrels are massacring everything. Out in the wild, edible fungi crops are right the way down. Usually, I can fill my backpack with Chanterelles - this year, one single chanterelle mushroom. That's it. Many Boletes haven't bothered at all. One tiny scrap of Chicken-In-The-Woods all summer. It's not looking too promising for the rest of the autumn, not unless we get some decent rain. I keep my vegetable pots on racks consisting of a minimum of 4 shelves, positioning the thirstiest plants on the topmost shelf, positioning plants according to needs directly underneath, this resulting in a steady trickle down of water as I water the top pots. Bowls positioned on the lowest shelf catch all the excess water. That way, throughout the day, I can just tip the bowls of drainage water back into the topmost pots and let gravity do most of the work of watering the ones underneath. I really save a lot of water that way - in case you're playing through a meter - and it saves a lot of toing and froing from the taps. Plus, this method recycles a lot of the plant feed too, especially useful if you're growing courgettes/zucchini (which can never get enough feed).

[@rdklkje13]

@@debbiehenri345 Nice potting system by the sounds of it. Reading your comment I was wondering about the hill you mention. Are there swales on it by any chance?

[@hord81]

In western Norway we had the most rainy and coldest summer for years.

[@simonscowled9925]

Norway is always cold

[@embreis2257]

funny. in south-western Norway hydropower production is down due to low water levels and they may cut electricity exports to the UK, Germany and the Netherlands

[@hord81]

@@embreis2257 🤣 then they are lying.

[@hord81]

@@simonscowled9925 Not always.we usually have nice summers. I know i have lived here for 40 years.

[@simonscowled9925]

@@hord81 direct me to your world famous Beach and show me stats on millions of tourists who come to party at your Beach resorts

[@booliev3275]

It's dramatic, but corrupted governments all over the world still won't do any significant changes.. the impact of global warming is real and now.

[@wolfiestreet6899]

False. This is standard deviation of weather.

[@justinh2150]

@@wolfiestreet6899 What you said means nothing. Just because it is within the bell curve (which encompasses basically all plausible temperatures), does not mean its a good thing if in 2nd or 3rd SD. Also it Is not great for seeing trendlines... "False."

[@wolfiestreet6899]

@@justinh2150 Nope, I'm correct and thanks for admitting that.

[@justinh2150]

@@wolfiestreet6899 this gotta be bait

[@itechtalk03]

@@wolfiestreet6899 so great to see deluded people like you on the internet…

[@ismaileee]

They're starting to look like the countries they used to colonise

[@chobblegobbler2536]

Industry wastes water on a scale that dwarfs the public - so why are “solutions” always centred around our behaviour instead of the major wasters?

[@RealUlrichLeland]

Both are important. Farming, especially meat production is a major consumer of water, but that's only because the public's meat consumption is so high

[@Synathidy]

Because they have money and those with money get to do whatever they want to the world and other people. That's capitalism. When money is the universal goal of everyone, everything, including the habitability of Earth, gets sold.

[@HandgunSafe]

Am I the only one who has noticed how many journalists are developing sudden stammers? I'm hearing this more and more often on CNN, NBC, BBC and elsewhere.

[@Digital111]

Well the world is getting faster and less patient, they are probably doing less preparation and less recordings and more live interviews with less preparation..

[@Aeronaut1975]

Yes, I've noticed it too.

[@HandgunSafe]

@@Aeronaut1975 Cool. It's not just my imagination.

[@annamelanie5151]

I’m still wondering why all the women “journalists” have to wear tight fitting dresses with no sleeves and/ or deep plunging necklines, while the men are wearing long sleeved suits with long sleeved shirts and ties.

[@janetrickwood2484]

Just imagine, the Loire is looking like the Darling. I think it's a case of, "get used to it, folks." Welcome to the world of want caused by greed.

[@janeseacombe9078]

Well said

[@mariamartins367]

The Loire is fine, Janet, stop thinking about the worst. Do something for your anxiety, too, there are ways to control anxiety.

[@lemonlemon594]

It is a drought in Europe, but it keeps raining too much in Seoul where I am!☔️☔️☔️

[@or3325]

Both are part of the same problem - a man triggered climate change.

[@neilfensome5032]

Weather manipulation

[@nickzx1082]

@@neilfensome5032 100% everyone wants to fuck up every country in the world and manipulates weather around the globe,even in their country.Genius

[@duncanjames895]

geo engineering

[@Aeronaut1975]

If the UK is currently experiencing "Extreme Heat" (BBC) somewhere in the early to Mid-30s, what does the BBC classify as 40C+ heat? "Armageddon solar furnace exctinction level heat"?

[@lizmcnay9947]

Archaeologists need to examine the river bed to see what might be present.

[@xena2559]

People are too ignorant to stop it. Only when their own existence is threatened and the disaster struck, they change attitudes.

[@xena2559]

@@JamesSmith-qs4hx 🤣 do you teach in a nursery? Or do you expect me to put master's thesis on KZbin?

[@xena2559]

@@JamesSmith-qs4hx elite secondary school, bachelor's degree, master's degree, post diploma studies, Cambridge University qualification. Want more?

[@fatandfurious5940]

In France, highways are full of cars, it is summer and people only think about their vacation... nothing can reach them...

[@quinncreel6091]

Are u suggesting the common people should stay at home, when they are not toiling away just to keep a roof above their heads? The rich pollute way more with their extravagant lifestyles: they are the ones who should be lectured about the consequences of their excesses. Also, everyone should just have fewer children or everyone's quality of life will dramatically decrease in the coming years, and yes, the poor will be the first ones to suffer, but the rich aren't immune to revolutions. And when the situation gets really dire, this is what usually happens.

[@wolfiestreet6899]

Good, I'm glad they are getting out and enjoying existence. Unlike you soul sucking miserable useless eaters.

[@emiliobello2429]

Terrible drought to be on France

[@michaelrose2443]

I think France might be mentioned here :kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYrLdISsatmBqbM

[@raghuraghu4739]

I have loved Europe since I was a child, because the climate is so good there, because everyone worships the living God there. But for the last 5 years I have heard that there is a cramming of dolls, and this is the result. I was very saddened to see the Hindu Gods being paraded together in Germany. Do you know why India lives so peacefully and coolly now, because there are more and more worshipers of the living God

[@johncayden8796]

We knew but did nothing 😕

[@SamiKotiranta]

Human condition... Ignorence and stupidly..

[@michaelrose2443]

You are right this is from 2018 kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYrLdISsatmBqbM

[@michaelrose2443]

@@SamiKotiranta Yes, well, you are right, but :kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYrLdISsatmBqbM

[@fuckbankers]

100 seconds to midnight

[@DOWNUNDER.]

Just a heads up ! The dying sun flower heads on this articles cover page is a natural phase of sunflowers especially with producing sun flower seeds

[@marioreds7826]

But the Loire dried up isn't. They could have chosen a better title, as a major river turning into sand is a major red flag, the same we're having in Italy with the Po (which isn't so dry but is at a level a third lower than the lowest recorded in the past). Similar red flag for the Rhine in Germany, where they cannot have boats fully loaded anymore because of how low the river is.

[@hmmmmm2634]

Climate change. Accept the facts and so something.

[@michaelrose2443]

@@marioreds7826 kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYrLdISsatmBqbM

[@booliev3275]

That's all you got from that report. News are news, of course they want to dramatised. But the impact of global warming is real.

[@anonymousone6075]

@@marioreds7826 Evian sold all the water

[@uapna1937]

Wow nice

[@fuckbankers]

100 seconds from midnight

[@billnavah0]

WORRYING!!!!

[@anonymousone6075]

Evian sold it all

[@rajendarkommu7821]

The global food production is battling with two fronts one is the war and the other is the weather!

[@frankinmouse]

The global food production is battling against 8 billion plus humans.

[@vanessafuchs8589]

2003 il n'avait pas plus pendant 2 mois. Je m'en souvient. Pas de bouteille d'eau dans les magasins apres 9heures. La loire etait presque assechee. Elle a debordee ensuite en novembre

[@mariamartins367]

C'est du porno climatique de la part de la BBC. Un, ça fait des clics. Deux, il s'agit de faire en sorte que la population britannique se dise "c'est pire ailleurs, ça ne va pas si mal ici finalement". Contrôle de la population.

[@vanessafuchs8589]

@@mariamartins367 porno climatique 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@fredo1070]

Best summer since 1976 and the BBC is complaining.

[@t-p-p369]

now they now how people feel who have low drinking water in extreme heat hopefully they will be more gratefull

[@zameisie7016]

Commiserations from Africa 🌍

[@solapowsj25]

Focus on year round water table maintenance, rain water harvesting and safe drainage to prevent flooding. Our best political effort since two decades is evacuation of the vulnerable population. Must do more. Focus.

[@ronishshrestha7111]

Crazy hec he

[@user-ck8zs5zo5g]

It's alr happening... but higher ups still aint taking this damn seriously

[@jarrodyuki7081]

oh boy!!!!!!!!!

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She helped recovered what I lost trading on my self

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She is real and trustworthy

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Her success story is everywhere

[@josephineikediashi4735]

Who's this professional everyone is talking about I always see her post on top comment on every KZbin video I watched

[@bikinglikebecker]

Automobile & Oil Industries are to blame!!!

[@michaelrose2443]

I'm not sure if that is mentioned in this Documentary: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYrLdISsatmBqbM

[@bikinglikebecker]

@@JamesSmith-qs4hx speeding up climate change driving us toward the next Triassic Epoch not seen in 54 million years...

[@Antechynus]

And 8 billion polluters are responsible for nothing?

[@bikinglikebecker]

@@Antechynus 2+ billion and certainly they are, who do you think bought all the automobiles?? Would they have bought them if they weren't available?

[@Antechynus]

@@bikinglikebecker only 2 billion you say?....are you going to make laws stopping the other six billion from wanting/having/consuming anything?... every human is a polluter, some have greater scale to do damage, but every human pollutes. The drive to raise everyone up to some "fair" level is ignorant at best and downright retarded at worst.

[@nickpearce1937]

Putin must be responsible...🤔

[@Pluto60]

Blame putin because u scamming people with water bill 💸 Don’t wash 🧼 your hand ✋ lol 😂 it’s coronavirus pandemic 😷

[@KONAMAN100]

No, he's irresponsible.

[@vadersnipes378]

“cLiMaTe ChAnGe IsNt ReAl” 😱😱

[@babythrones313]

Use Oil to dry soil or dry grass

[@ProtestArtVideo]

It's a combination of heat waves, droughts and forest fires and it's only going to get worse over the years and decades unless we take strong actions to phase out fossil fuels and animal agriculture (responsible for most of the third of methane emissions coming from food). Please sign the The Fossil Fuel Non-Proliferation Treaty​ and the Plant Based Treaty​ #PlantBasedTreaty

[@mariamartins367]

Bullshit Anita, bullshit, complete bullshit. 1 dry winter with predictable outcome. 2 criminal arsonists 3 the biggest artificial forest in Europe: the Landes pine forest

[@militia-je3rr]

I hope when rain ready to fall y'all prepare in case of flood

[@Kraken54321]

Anybody would think it was Summer!!!

[@sevenhavenmindfulness893]

Just one week heatwave make this worst situation really sad imagine one year continue this weather . I think all over the planet we need planets lots of trees to protect earth.

[@joshuakampamba9061]

If the earth can get this hot to a point unbearable, I can't begin to imagine how bad it was be when the Lord comes to distroy the world. So terrific. Oh Lord have mercy on me 😭😭🙏🙏🇿🇲🇿🇲

[@lindaellen808]

A verse in Bible ,Revelations says about the days being shortened due to no flesh surviving, at the end of the Great tribulation. ,many preachers on u-tubes.

[@madhumitaroy4756]

Inflation not stopping now it is confirmed

[@Annabelle66633]

0:57 there’s nothing left 😲😳💧🏜

[@eighteight984]

Glad to see this...you get what you sow

[@stekariuki4241]

The west never saw this coming

[@nurismail_]

it is the end for the west

[@divinuminfernum]

except we did but the people with the power and money decided to do nothing abbout it

[@JogBird]

i know of a certain country with suplus food

[@onlythetruth62]

Maybe now is the time to finally stop warring among ourselves and start focusing on things that are important.

[@SheepofTheShepherd-nu3lz]

Egypt went through this They had severe famine And many died Terrible how much pride will destroy civilization

[@public.public]

That was the result of intensive wheat farming changing the microclimate of the Nile Valley. The Ancient Egyptians chopped down all the scrub and hedging to plant more wheat. Same as what the farmers are doing all across Europe today. AND they are paid to do it through subsidies.

[@SahaRetreats]

All that evaporated water from the seas will end up in England’s Lake District. Hallelujah 🤗

[@yagh5653]

🌧🌧

[@pabloagusti5104]

People missing the point: "This is normal elsewhere".

[@poopootin3652]

Just bridge looks ironic

[@davidlloyd3116]

Rishi Sunak can afford to heat his swimming pool though. Hes ok.

[@UncleJames95]

Maybe we should start storing water underground during winter instead of just letting our drinking water evaporate in reservoirs

[@Meowloudandproud]

Damn where da water go?

[@mariagiia4369]

Buna dimineata.Sally Bundok nu mai prezinta stirile!

[@raymondo6665]

It was cold and wet in the North West a few weeks ago. That was due to climate change caused by my gas boiler too.

[@ashergoney]

December 2012 onwards//

[@dancrazyful]

Take it easy guys...it's a new normal...

[@joelpetersen2480]

There is hardly any cooling water left for the countless French nuclear power plants. But yes. Nuclear power plants are "green".

[@BillyBob-bv1bk]

Where else do you want to get our energy? Solar and wind can only be a part of our energy source with today's technology. France's investment in nuclear energy is the best thing

[@joelpetersen2480]

@@BillyBob-bv1bk Yes, it is possible to operate completely without nuclear power plants. What good are nuclear power plants if they can't be cooled and threaten to contaminate an entire continent for the next 5,000 years? All it takes is one reactor to go off. France has over 50!

[@embreis2257]

@@BillyBob-bv1bk how narrowminded. it's 2022 and new tech comes up all the time. nobody in their right mind would advocate nuclear power any longer (except perhaps the bloody CP of China). far too expensive, not sustainable and uranium is all but green. inform yourself about all the exciting new ways of storing energy generated by renewables and stop propagating a dangerous and outdated technology still without any clue how to get safely rid of all the nuclear waste

[@houndmaster5843]

​@@joelpetersen2480 Not true in the slightest. Lets take Chernobyl or Fukushima two of the most deadly and known disasters to happen. Only killed a handful of people directly and about 1000-5000 in potential but non confirmable cancer patients which has caused combined about 50M in collateral damages. Now lets examine the fact that both Chernobyl and Fukushima are tourist attractions, still active and very necessary for both the cities and thousands of workers thier and have actually improved the lifes of native animals with 0 documented genetic defects or behavioural issues. Now lets also take into the fact that thier has been over 100 nuclear incidents and only about 10-15% have any direct casualties. Lets compare that to Dam's, Coal, Oil, Natural Gas even air isn't great and too much solar is also an issue. Dam's like nuclear are actually 1 of our best sources of energy when either a nuclear or dam have a disaster it causes a lot of damage, However dam's cause alot more as nuclear have emergency warnings, very high nuclear proof blast doors, radiation resistant walls so most people can leave first because of public stigma of being unsafe. Dams no they always cause 1000's of direct deaths normally 10,000s of thousands and cause Billions in damages. Solar if used in concentration can artificially cause heatwaves and increased local area, however this one is fairly easy to engineer around and it would only take a solar field in the Sahara the size 335KM squared or 1.2% of the desert to power the world energy needs daily. Wind is really inefficient unlike solar which is useful 16/24h a day and with climate change getting better, Wind needs wind which isn't reliable for nearly the same amount of time as solar however it does have a unquie sense of when it rains it pours so storms, strong winds needed to push that size of a turbine will help itself and in that time span likely produce more energy than a small group of solar but it isn't likely to spin for 16h a day and it kills a very large population of migrating and native birds in the area with 50,000 birds dying in the UK to them annually. Coal is outright one of the biggest killers too date with lead aswell, causing air pollution which guarantees more cancer rates, respiratory issues and skeletial decay than any other non genetic disease in the world with 10% of all lung cancer cases alone caused by coal emissions. And the very real metal decay and increases in Autism, ADHD, schizophrenia, depression and other behavioural or learning condition from the release of lead from cars and oil which has been strongly linked since the start of the 20th century when cars became widely usable. To prove my points I will post links to some of my sources, Dont get me wrong fossil fuels are bad but Nuclear and Hydro dams and thermal vents are the best sources of safe clean energy we have and fear mongering like this is why Germany shut down all thier reactors and opened 11 new coal sites which is guaranteed to kill 100's OF THOAUSANDS where as IF, IF a nuclear reactor goes off normally its harmless. So I will argue this point but in a logical and civil way. world-nuclear.org/nuclear-essentials/what-are-the-effects-of-nuclear-accidents.aspx ideas.ted.com/solar-farm-sahara-desert-climate-impact-effects/ www.lse.ac.uk/granthaminstitute/news/behind-the-headlines-bird-fatalities-and-wind-turbines/ www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3002194/ www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2917196/ ourworldindata.org/nuclear-energy www.iea.org/reports/nuclear-power-in-a-clean-energy-system

[@joelpetersen2480]

@@houndmaster5843 fuck right off. All this billshit u've posted is for the bin. Right from the nuclear-lobbyists. So, bye.

[@thehumancanary131]

Plenty of rice in Asia - where they make bread out of rice flour. The EC could follow this example to reduce dependency on wheat...

[@thehumancanary131]

@@Automedon2 Where I am....in S.E. Asia - it's sheeting down with rain, and has been for the last few months...

[@public.public]

Feeding the wealth accumulation addicts habit is obviously more important than the survival of our species.

[@martinebon4333]

The hot weather, humans can deal with, but not loss of food and water. Without enough water we cannot make food, and without water, humans wouldnt survive for a few days. Conserve what we have now!

[@michaelrose2443]

Martin this could help: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYrLdISsatmBqbM

[@hmmmmm2634]

Depends where you live. Some parts of the world have temperatures over 50 degrees. These aren’t temperatures humans can deal with

[@martinebon4333]

@@JamesSmith-qs4hx Dont forget the essential element Water.

[@lfeb]

Sad

[@alexbort3082]

It's not important. The most important thing is that France must help Ukraine. The French citizens do not need any help.

[@raghuraghu4739]

Yes I have loved Europe since I was a child, because the climate is so good there, because everyone worships the living God there. But for the last 5 years I have heard that there is a cramming of dolls, and this is the result. I was very saddened to see the Hindu Gods being paraded together in Germany. Do you know why India lives so peacefully and coolly now, because there are more and more worshipers of the living God

[@r.i.s.t.o]

I like hot summers ^.^

[@Arcaryon]

The main issue with climate change is the lack of international cooperation. As long as states and alliances continue to rival another, we need to keep competing and therefore, there is a need to expand further and further, offsetting positive innovation due to the sheer mass of people who also consume more stuff. In the end, the only long term solution until technology makes other options truly available, is a one child per existent human, globally. Our own success is basically also what is, in an exaggerated sense, killing us. I mean, think about it; year after year we find new technologies but they all need more recourses, more energy, etc. and not only that but we need to replicate them for systems including hundreds of millions- that is not a bad thing per se, the issue arises because we keep lifting up even more millions every year so the demand keeps increasing and even if we save 50% on energy now, today, let’s very, very roughly estimate maybe 2 billion people can even access a moderate modern lifestyle, internet access, constant electricity, warm water, a varied food supply, protection against the weather, moderate travel capabilities via public transport or private transportation - we will not solve this crisis in our current approach to politics.

[@mattagamer98]

We have all the tech we need to counter climate change, no need for new tech. Now its just politics and human stupidity that needs change.

[@Arcaryon]

@@mattagamer98 Mate, we don’t even have enough recourses to ensure that all human have electricity 24/7. We have all the tech we need to counter climate change IF none of the the restored of humanity and ourselves plan on improving their standards of living and we also drastically reduce our own consumption. Let’s face it: no one wants that. Hell, do the math, see how we will hold up with just 4 billion people having the average consumption rate of the USA.

[@Jen-Yueh_Hu]

So what approach do you suggest?

[@Arcaryon]

@@Jen-Yueh_Hu That’s the hard part. This solution may even be impossible to achieve for the foreseeable future ( and keep in mind, it’s only a first step, ultimately we would need an entirely different economic policy that would shake many of the established foundations of modern trade and production ). For starters, ironically given the fact that many alliances are very political, an option that may pay off in the long term is to have more big international alliances to streamline the interests of different regions in order to make negotiations more plausible. But, let me say this in advance: there is no real answer to all of this because what I am seriously suggesting is essentially to slowly unite the entire planet and honestly, that is an utopian approach. The unfortunate thing is that, as far as I can see it, it’s also the only thing that will really work. Sharing more technology for example may potentially also help a lot for obvious reasons but it’s difficult to convince a government or a company to do that when a place is not clearly aligned with them / working for them. Of course, it’s also important to keep advancing any potential solutions that reduce the planetary environmental containment, for example; cleaner factories, artificial meat, to build with cleaner materials ( wood for example is quite ideal, there are experiments with a large variety of other materials as well ) etc. , as we however all already do in some capacity IF we can afford it and like I said, this doesn’t solve the core issue of competing, expanding civilization. The "good" thing is that people get far, far more willing to cooperate once they see the implications of a crisis more clearly. The bad thing is that this means that things will have gotten a lot worse before that happens at a scale that truly matters in the grand scheme. I may be wrong but one of the most essential and yet simplest things one can do for now is to bring attention to the fact that the issue isn’t just _what_ & _how_ we consume but rather _that_ we do so in the first place. One thing that is "playing into our cards" in a bittersweet sense is that the growth of advanced civilizations slows down drastically because new technology tends to be incredibly research intensive, as well as very hard to implement. This obviously means that, the larger a civilization becomes, the more recourses it consumes just to remain at a maintainable level. Meaning that, theoretically, only very few will even reach the next level of advancements. Meaning that one basically just has to convince the biggest players to implement new policies ( which is again, utopian but it’s probably the best shot we got at the moment ) because, realistically speaking, there won’t be enough for the rest to even truly become part of the bigger problem. The flip side you will have already pointed out is that this knowledge is so common that the global rivalry tends to increase further and further because nearly everyone wants to be on the „winning“ side, leading to even more consumption because no one wants to fall behind. Which is why, in the end, I honestly do not see a real solution. This will probably get worse for a long time before there even is a fighting chance that anything gets better.

[@Jen-Yueh_Hu]

@@Arcaryon If you do not even believe it would work, then how would it work? Personally, I think the people of the world should rise up and kill all politicians. Nations only compete with one another because of politicians inciting the population against "foreign threats" to divert attention from the fact that the politicians profit from the power.

[@berserkirclaws107]

Could the current heatwave be in part due to the Hunga Tonga-Hunga Ha'apai eruption of December 20, 2021 through January 15, 2022 which increases the amount of water in the atmosphere by 10%(38 billion gallons of water) causing temporary warning for years to come?

[@mariamartins367]

Perhaps. Or not.

[@reygalo8269]

Big companies have privileges to access water in most countries, these companies have owners with name and address. The real responsible for the environmental disaster and the last to suffer the consequences. Newscasts like this one work for these transnationals. Las grandes compañías tienen privilegios para acceder al agua en la mayoría de los países, éstas compañías tienen dueños con nombre y dirección. Los verdaderos responsables del desastre ambiental y los últimos en padecer las consecuencias. Los noticieros como éste trabajan para dichas trasnacionales.

[@public.public]

Make share holders legally responsible for the actions or inaction of management in the companies they invest in.

[@Arcaryon]

The issue is that many big companies actually have role to fulfil in society. While they may use their profits unethically, their core existence is needed. The main issue with climate change is the lack of international cooperation. As long as states and alliances continue to rival another, we need to keep competing and therefore, expand further and further, offsetting positive innovation due to the sheer mass of people who also consume more stuff. In the end, the only long term solution until technology makes other options truly available, is a one child per existent human, globally. Our own success is basically also what is, in an exaggerated sense, killing us. I mean, think about it; year after year we find new technologies but they all need more recourses, more energy, etc. and not only that but we need to replicate them for systems including hundreds of millions- that is not a bad thing per se, the issue arises because we keep lifting up even more millions every year so the demand keeps increasing and even if we save 50% on energy now, today, let’s very, very roughly estimate maybe 2 billion people can even access a moderate modern lifestyle, internet access, constant electricity, warm water, a varied food supply, protection against the weather, moderate travel capabilities via public transport or private transportation - we will not solve this crisis in our current approach to politics.

[@reygalo8269]

​@@Arcaryon You know, I thought very similar to you a long time ago. Unfortunately, the media works in favor of the owners of the biggest companies. The idea of ​​"job creation" or "increasing the economy" are false arguments, a trap that most believe insurmountable or necessary. Throughout history something similar has happened several times. Only this time it is something worrying, because the irremediable loss of natural resources is involved, especially the essential ones, to at least have a little hope: water and air. This way of believing, for example, "ALL we are responsible" or how you said: "we find new energies", is to believe that we all make a decision, when in reality some do. In the article: "The tragedy of the commons" some of this is glimpsed (although it has some errors) or in Tocqueville's point of view on the trap of collective thought in the capitalist model that he glimpsed. In short, there is varied literature, but you have to read it carefully and compare. You say that the main problem of climate change is the lack of international cooperation, and I agree with you, but the problem goes further. If there is no cooperation, it is due to the lack of honest international organizations, which do not work for the big companies but for the well-being of the population and the environment. The vast majority of transnationals have known and have known for several decades the consequences on health and the environment of the use of their products, from the fashion industry, footwear, soft drinks, food, petrochemical, mining, automotive, pharmaceutical etc. etc. Many of them carried out environmental and health impact studies (because, not only to evade the law, but by knowing what they are risking, they can better measure their profits) before launching a product, and even knowing the consequences, with impunity. , they produced their articles. The use of heavy metals, health problems for their employees in their factories, the contamination of aquifers, etc, etc, they knew it! and many international and national organizations are in collusion. These owners are like drug cartels, competing for territory and power. It is naive to think that institutions will work for the well-being of the majority. No, there is not short-term or long-term solution! That is not possible at all. First, these privileges must be ended and they must pay criminally for the consequences of illegal actions that have been committed for decades, but those responsible are the same ones who manage the institutions that are in charge of punishing said actions, so no, there is no solution. The problem is not the technology, but the misuse of it (by the same corruption described above). The more millions we are, the less educated and the poorer we are; more cheap labor will open, to produce at low cost (highly qualified or not). Anyway... there is much to say and clarify. But it is difficult to refute with the majority, because there are already anchored thoughts that are difficult to eradicate.

[@lizmcnay9947]

Engineers should build desalination pumps and refill the Loire from the Ocean. It's not going to get better without that type of action.

[@toram6210]

Where is the drought ? U guys are not showing just saying….

[@nickzx1082]

Are you stupid?

[@paulelliott4590]

Saudi Arabia gets 90% of all it’s fresh water from desalination. It’s a process of removing salt from ocean water. The only reason most western countries don’t do desalination is, because the environmental impact. It takes a lot of energy to extract fresh water from sea water.

[@wolfiestreet6899]

No, it's because it's a complete waste of money. 99% of the time there's no water supply problem. Grow up.

[@paulelliott4590]

@@wolfiestreet6899 bite me

[@history3042]

The salt sludge from desaliation will kill any plants or wildlife, it's not a scalable solution. That's not an issue when most of your country is already desert.

[@wolfiestreet6899]

@@paulelliott4590 I accept your unconditional surrender.

[@paulelliott4590]

@@wolfiestreet6899 okay

[@schlix101]

We should build desalination plants now, as they have done in Dubai (and many other places in the world). France is next to the sea, they have money. I don't understand why this is not done? Or are they doing it already, we're just not hearing anything about it.

[@vaunniethayer1484]

Desalination is extremely expensive, there are much better ways to save fresh water before going that route. Good question though.

[@viciouscircle7802]

We never act unless its too late.

[@musictheory4u153]

You can make drinking water out of ocean water.

[@denobarrey]

It’s raining

[@mxrkxo]

Please listen from extinction rebellion

[@user-xr9tt1to9l]

We are going to need Trees mixed into crops to give a little shade.

[@sharifulislamrocky8352]

Go green...

[@davidsimpsonfuntoon]

This is Karma of massive industrialization.

[@CosmicAliveness]

Weather control machines

[@Captain.Pugwash]

Quelle horreur! ☺️

[@TheBandit1059]

C'est vrai! 🙃

[@remy3014]

Something does'nt work climat is really gone water will be the major problem in the world

[@matthewthomas0330]

Heliostatic salt water to fresh water generator station byproducts: Electricity, fresh water and salt

[@johanan62]

Are we still saying that there's no global warming? France is a good example of what's happening around the world take note people

[@mariamartins367]

Bullshit. What's happening in France is criminal arsonists çreating fires in the biggest artoficial forest in Europe: the Landes pine forest.

[@alehanjdro1]

We could learn from countries like Israel and the Gulf states who are combating drought by desalination and reverse osmosis water technology.

[@wolfiestreet6899]

Too expensive, waste of time. The water will return by autumn, if not sooner.

[@elijahx9]

#save soil‼️

[@fredbeverton553]

just stop oil

[@harishs8567]

I thought winter was coming. Nope its summer thats coming

[@Pidxr]

Seven years of kine followed by seven years of death

[@mytorment]

Kassandra apologized to Ajax 🔥

[@saralowe5306]

Honestly, sea level is rising and the technology is already made to make salt water drinkable so this water shortage is just another reminder that governments need to upgrade to modern needs using modern technology.

[@ShatabdaRoy115]

thats bad for long term

[@runtothehills8992]

Quick, Tarquin and Jocasta, change of plan, it's Southend for you this year.

[@raqconthego8955]

Matthew 11:28 Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

[@abhashsingh9066]

Indian food best option European union

[@ShadowFriendMK3]

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[@michaelrose2443]

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[@MrFancyFingers]

We should have listened to Al Gore...

[@DOWNUNDER.]

I listened to him and built an ark, then the ice caps didn't melt. Waste of bloody time that was

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

More like Carl Sagan, who was far more intelligent, educated, and even produced countless analyses and timelines regarding the systemic nature of the Earth's changes (factoring in human influences). Ironically, the Earth would have 'cycled' like this with or without mankind... but it would have done so far less quickly.

[@lw3646]

My first introduction to Microsoft PowerPoint....

[@nickzx1082]

@@Novastar.SaberCombat maybe in 5000's ?