INTENSE! GodLogic & Apostate Prophet PRESS Muslims In Hilarious Debate On Islam

[@TheyHurry]

Just a heads up the Muslim Apologist guy was allegedly charged in Malaysia for possessing Child P. He's threatening to sue anyone who talks about it

[@TingTong2568]

He can't sue sh!t on anyone. A lame and cheap threat to scare people from talking about his case

[@Godwonagain]

I thought something was off with him. That doesn’t surprise me at all. Discernment is key. Jesus is King and Lord ❤️✝️🩸🙌🏼🔥💯💯💯

[@myOpinion771]

Pedophiles and wicked people run to Islam for sanctuary, it promotes and advocates for it

[@alexsmith2766]

Proof?

[@Coptic-2024]

​​@@alexsmith2766just google youtuber M.E.N.J arrested for possesing child p..n 😮

[@saitamalowry6795]

Great work Avery. You have opened my eyes , and many others i believe, with your intelligent, logical concise Apologetics. Keep going GodLogic.

[@lovespirit9061]

100%

[@AhmadSulaimanFahim57]

Can we talk?

[@JeromeRomero-m4j]

@@AhmadSulaimanFahim57 without lies, islam dies

[@3factsNG]

Issa was just wondering what he got himself in to with his debate partner😂😂

[@issakabeer1535]

😢

[@Jackkkkkkkk111]

​@@issakabeer1535You're a good human being Issa. As a christian i will pray for you my friend

[@issakabeer1535]

@@Jackkkkkkkk111 Aww thank you so much!

[@sammylong3704]

Yea, I felt bad for him. Imagine having a debate partner that is actually on the other team 😂😂😂

[@Lord_Jay90]

Facts his facial expressions said everything!! 😂

[@CuauhtemocVasquez-ld8cn]

We are witnessing the COLLAPSE of Islam by means of simply exposing what they believe.

[@pitouayato2486]

It’s been a bloody summer for Islam, all they do is lie… Most Muslims don’t know their Islam hahaah

[@MarketingStrategies28]

Iran is going back to Christmas. Little America. Over 50,000 mosques closed

[@zane01235]

Ignorance was Islam's greatest weapon, and it was only a matter of time before allah and muhammad were exposed.

[@halfwaydead3087]

​@@MarketingStrategies28 glory to god

[@MarketingStrategies28]

@@halfwaydead3087 God Jesus. Not satan allah and pedo mahamad

[@AStClair24]

Oh wow AP defending Christianity 😮😮😮. Good Job

[@AppalachianLumberjack]

He wont come out but I believe he has become orthodox w his wife

[@stufreeland5709]

This debate is about whether Islam is false or not.

[@MilitantAntiAtheism]

@@stufreeland5709 Yes the focus should be on that, I agree, people should learn to stick to the topic

[@JoanneArc-or9sr]

​@MilitantAntiAtheism he has stuck to thw topic but the guy in the white shirt went of path a couple times

[@MilitantAntiAtheism]

@@JoanneArc-or9sr I was just talking about the people in the comment section, talking about other things than what the debate was about.. Maybe it came out a bit too harsh, it wasn't my intent to mock anyone or be condecending, just trying to get peolple to focus. Don't take it for more than what it was :)

[@zoom940]

Many times Jesus advocated the protection of kids in the Bible while momo violated the innocence of children's and orphans in the quran and the hadith.

[@travonjackson3170]

And in life.

[@zatoichiable]

In the West the ones commit these shameful acts are only the christian priest and clergies. I have not read imams and Muslim religious people committing it... so better luck next with your hate speech...

[@Chell6626]

I can’t believe he said- If the government allows marrying a 9 year old it’s okay

[@stufreeland5709]

Showing Christianity to be true would automatically make Islam false, but showing Christianity false doesn’t make Islam true. It’s not a hard concept.

[@realist460]

You do know knowledge is a path right? Not just a landing zone you just jump into. And the process of bringing people to the truth of Jesus Christ is first debunking their existing beliefs. Look at how the muslims are deflecting the conversation even when they are talking about islam, imagine what they would be manifesting if christians just started hammering them with Bible verses

[@hechpee]

we can tell ISSA was very uncomfortable with Muslim Apologist answers

[@StephenMallick]

This was a great debate to sum up. This exposes the filthy truth of Islam as a religion.

[@MoisesSaldaña-e8n]

I've already hit that like button like i fear disobedience from it

[@dylancanales3854]

Use the miswaq gang, don’t want it to turn green 🤣

[@braydenbrewer4969]

Hit the like button so hard it turned green

[@ApostleCrypto]

Shame for allah with 2 right hands it couldn't

[@Khaje-ep2ey]

❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@Khaje-ep2ey]

Subscribe Share and like 👍

[@Ex-MuslimTestimonies]

Another loss for Islam ! 😀 August was already bad, but will September be even worse for Islam…?

[@curt62208]

Only thing stopping that dude from marrying and bedding a 9 year old is the law? Not the fact she’s 9 years old! That’s just sick & wicked!

[@hubertagamasu6283]

Makes you understand why he (Menj) got in trouble with the law over this same sort of thing.

[@hechpee]

SCARY BRO!!!!

[@cjjb2021]

Im wondering why they didnt address the ages about the women in the bible they brung up..n is it true

[@RabbiMalahkYah]

​@cjjb2021 that's been debunked more times than the moon has circled the earth

[@theclashcalling_]

Check his hard drive and 'phone

[@dacelticcross]

Issa Kabeer face at the end says it all😂 check mate ✝️

[@Hubalisallah]

He looks ready to leave Islam

[@solomonthomas7444]

Absolutly....😂😂😂...

[@siyabongandlovu5436]

Muslims should hide this Google guy in the white shirt

[@Pope.The.Conquer]

He was already arrested for the children illegal videos

[@pauldingkh]

Don't hide him, his job is to make more apostate, he himself would be next great apostate prophet 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@johnchrysostomon6284]

Malaysia is supposed to have an excellent eductional system... evidence of which is totally absent in this argument

[@learn1924]

Education with Malays not going to go far

[@teefue]

dont let this guy fool you about malaysia, there are lots of christians in Malaysia, i myself am a Malaysian and follower of Christ. Fyi Malaysia is a Muslim Country, the Shariah Law, (Laws from the Quran) apply here, if anyone who were muslim converts they would be put to death

[@bojka5578]

Mate rimac is important in bible debate study

[@Soturie3]

this debate is too funny from the start, ALL GLORY TO OUR GREAT GOD, LORD, AND KING JESUS CHRIST

[@elshuku1]

Why does it feel like the christians are trying to convince the muslims of islam first and then debunk them 😂😂😂

[@prayerforceone]

💯

[@zane01235]

You mean Christians describing the quran without the mandatory muslim cope?

[@elshuku1]

@@zane01235you mean google?

[@ricetanzania4148]

you have to listen to your opponent.

[@mphodiboka4367]

I guess it was about them binding themselves to what they believe si that they don't so the shuffle as we see that it's hard to defend the indefensible. 😢😢 Truly internet is the death of islam. 🤔

[@ScribesKartel]

Check Menj's hard drive

[@TheWorstApologist]

I hit the like button so hard, I left a green bruise. No like button suffers like the like button of Avery's

[@GodLogicApologetics]

😂😂😂😂

[@alisterrebelo9013]

Green like the womans dress.

[@chfun999]

Don't consult mo ... He will blame the button

[@bojka5578]

​@@GodLogicApologeticspls cek out stipe miocic and cro cop pls wery important

[@bojka5578]

​@@GodLogicApologeticsstipe miocic cro cop cek it out pls is bible

[@yayorandel6048]

Issa got stumped on Jesus being God.

[@TurtleTankers]

Time stamp it please

[@issakabeer1535]

Is that what happened?

[@BigDan21.]

​@@issakabeer1535He did not deny it when plainly asked! Modern Debate saved him by changing the topic!

[@issakabeer1535]

@@BigDan21. But what was the stumping. This is where I am confused. You are correct. Who gets the right to condemn others theologies. Are you familiar with parenialism?

[@6igPP]

God please save MENJ’s future kids from him. I’m afraid he might touch them. He literally said “the only thing holding him back from marrying kids today is the law” 😭🤦🏽‍♂️

[@mysotiras21]

SICK!

[@SheikhMawini]

Look up what he was arrested for a few years ago

[@es-rh8oo]

If he wants to marry 9 year old girls he should move to Iraq

[@EnejMichel19]

Menj is a sick guy. I genuenly felt bad for Issa the whole debate

[@bojka5578]

Stipe miočić bible study

[@HH-xw4hr]

God bless you GodLogic🙏✝️ you are bringing many people to Christ, and its so beautiful 🙏✝️

[@hubertagamasu6283]

Menj: The verse does not mention young ones. Islamic Commentries: Those who cannot m*nstr**te because they are YOUNG. Menj: It means the young who cannot m*nstr**te because they re sick😂

[@Kimkong2]

🤣🤣🤦🏾‍♂🤦🏾‍♂

[@MilitantAntiAtheism]

menj is sick

[@Coptic-2024]

​@MilitantAntiAtheism just search this guy up. He was arrested for child p..n in Malaysia 😮😮😮

[@MilitantAntiAtheism]

@@Coptic-2024 I lost him when he admitted that he is supportive of pdfilia if it is legalized, which means in sharia. He's a creep with zero morality, obviously boning kids too else he wouldn't say that.

[@ancadan9935]

Yeah. 🐒 😂

[@LeifOreilly]

Last time we saw this Menj character he was being hauled away by the police on some absolutely gross charges involving children. Not sure what ever came of that. It’s hard not to find him revolting.

[@dam1rr]

The guy is disgusting.. never heard of him, just from seeing him and hearing him for 10 seconds it's clear how your comment makes sense..

[@airkami]

Is that why his name tag says “Muslim Apologist “?

[@StephenMallick]

They found underage child porn cassettes and DVDs when raiding his house in Malaysia.

[@Killa_3]

Hes from a country where that stuff can easily be squashed so wouldn't be surprised

[@stevenrios713]

What's good name so I can check it out

[@QueenE31]

Hahaha at 42:20 the crickets (literally) in the background after AP’s spiel about truth and morality is PERFECT!!!!

[@Gavirael]

I like Issa Kabeer. He is very open minded and has an excellent view. AP and GL are always amazing.

[@ogiepee1484]

These people are sick, this is sad to watch, how will someone be defending child marriage? 😢😢😢 ISA is wondering what's going on and wondering how he can change the topic 😢

[@robertgardner4235]

Modern day debate put this out yesterday, I believe. Hilarious! You get the 👍 of course.

[@Chippoka]

25:29 kudos to AP's reply and his book reference 🙂

[@TuskerGaming]

Exposes himself as a pdf than gets excited that he thinks he caught Avery come on man what we doin

[@lloyd4445]

Poor AP he still hasn't got rid of that cricket 😂😂

[@MilitantAntiAtheism]

Now I know it comes from AP, I find it hilarious, notice the cricket when the muslims cannot answer

[@CedanyTheAlaskan]

HIS NAME IS HERBERT!

[@theplainguy5102]

@@CedanyTheAlaskanWhat’s my name! Herbert You’re goddamn right

[@R2d2..]

Herbert😊

[@wantok8117]

You're finished MENJ, why didn't you bring Zakir Naik with you? God bless GL & AP

[@halleluyah60]

AP was on fireeee

[@sugami82]

I'm proud of AP, arguing like a Christian apologist 😆✝ The real MVP is AP's Cricket. AP asks Issa a question, nothing but cricket sounds 😂🤣 AP, we love you brother ❤ Praying you come to Christ like your lovely wife 🙏

[@issakabeer1535]

Wym?

[@TheRoyalMan1017]

Nah bro, Issa was nice and genuine. He should come home to Christ, our God.

[@TheRoyalMan1017]

@@issakabeer1535 Issa your facial expressions towards the end were killing me. Believe in Jesus Christ brother. He is wainting for you and He loves you so much. Your home is not is islam. I'll pray for you brother

[@CedanyTheAlaskan]

Poor Issa. Come on over man! We love you!

[@sanchopanza6535]

Amen!

[@jejuanbatain3613]

Why is it that the 2 Christian's are talking and giving actual evidence, but the other two men are just giving their opinions as if that's sufficient enough.?.?

[@OzInfidel]

AP is not Christian. Yet

[@greats-lm3kr]

@@OzInfidel Probably going to be, there are no flaws with Jesus Christ himself and his True Chruch.

[@MilitantAntiAtheism]

Muslims have been accostumed to just spewing out nonsense and then, because of fear of retaliation and because of fear of fake islamophobe narrative, they would never meet any opposition. That has clearly changed now, and muslims are experiencing an existential crisis while trying to find their purpose in this new reality. Taqqyya doesn't work anymore, we know their scripture better than them, and dawah doesn't work because we have figured out their scripts there too.

[@aaronclaro153]

It's haram to use your brain in islam. As if it will make everything true. What do expect?

[@ricetanzania4148]

islamic polemics is silly They keep on going until they rule and can silence us.

[@beastff3228]

47:55 godlogic said the dude sitting on a pink unicorn 🤣🤣🤣😭🤣🤣🤣 the Issa guy wanted to laugh

[@michey5790]

AP: Debate was over early. Good catch AP😂

[@DoomkingBalerdroch]

so the megatron apologist is what Islam has to present lol

[@joshuafroggatt]

That was painful to watch, please tell me those Muslims were paid actors😭

[@MilitantAntiAtheism]

They did all theyh could to make islame look disgusting and only for mentally ill

[@alisterrebelo9013]

Issa is an outlier. He's a sort of syncretist because one of his parents in Jewish and the other is Islamic. He did an interview with David Wood a few months ago, where you can see all of his non orthodox views.

[@HH-xw4hr]

Godlogic, i hope you will someday feature Lloyd de Jongh on your channel. I know it is a big ask, and will become more dangerous. But people deserve to know the real truth of islame! 🙏✝️

[@gillettepatron9699]

I love how Dr James is not even "present" sometimes. Love this guy

[@agbojoadebola7428]

34:18 isa knows the truth, he's been silent and nervous 😂 come to Christ Isa

[@robynahgreen1283]

SMH 🤦🏽‍♀️ 51:40 -That's not a fallacy, it's in the past tense; a FELLacy! It fell from waaay back in the day with MuhamMAD! 😂🤣

[@TruthFire111]

Very strange uneasy body language going on with the two guys on the right of the screen🤔

[@djdanielle2k9]

This Menj needs to be on a watch list !!!

[@SacredReason]

GLORY BE TO THE FATHER, TO THE SON, AND TO THE HOLY SPIRIT, ONE GOD ALMIGHTY. HALLELUJAH. AMEN.

[@bernard88888]

44:20 Issa don't be ashamed on your brother performance 😂😂😂😂

[@kimm4stoo]

Hit that like button like it ain't got an idah

[@Evridikibio1]

I was listening to this live and at some point I turned to look at the screen and Issa looked like he had been crying. I think it was near the end

[@pratyusmitapradhan5210]

The Muslim side of the debate was so baaad

[@issakabeer1535]

Why?

[@WusWrongWitUs]

​​@@issakabeer1535 because they made statements and then backtracked IMMEDIATELY when those statements were challenged. They never established a foundation of their beliefs. They didmt represent Islam at all. And this is coming from a Christian. If u think they did a good job i feel sorry for you

[@letmetalk2240]

@@WusWrongWitUs The Old and the New Testaments contradict each other in so many ways, that they can’t logically, truthfully, honestly, rationally, reasonably be considered HOLY scriptures. So how can Muslims fail in a debate with Christians?

[@indigatorveritatis7343]

@@letmetalk2240 yet mohPlG CONFIRMED them LOLOLOLOL

[@Furinkazan541]

​@@letmetalk2240Because they failed to prove anything. They ran away from every topic. Come on Bro. You are just acting like they won because Islam gives you a fragile ego

[@Beep_beep_boop]

Issa is cool best Muslim apologist, an honest guy who can see fault in his belief and struggles with it honestly. He would make a great Christian apologist

[@JerHeck-c6r]

Ive watched issa in many videos and he is my brother in humanity.....He has a huge heart and i love him and dont know him

[@EnejMichel19]

I like him too, he's a cool down to earth guy. Wish him all the best.

[@JerHeck-c6r]

@@EnejMichel19 Yea he has a heart that needs to come to CHRIST

[@krypto-noob397]

GOOGLE IT!!!!😂😂😂😂

[@Coptic-2024]

😂😂😂 that guy is so "smart" I googled "muslim apologist malisya" and found out that he was accused of having child p..n in Malaysia 😮 Thank you google 😅

[@Coptic-2024]

Google "muslim apologist malisya" ... he is pdf just like momo 😮😮😮

[@pabloiskobar777]

Police be upon him -

[@ericbochardt2989]

Why would the moderator veer away from Irenaeus book? It's one of the most solide proof we have of text validate, that and the septuagint which is dated 300-100BC, 1000 years before the creation of masoretic texts 27:36

[@Jax-xn5bd]

Christianity 100 - momos 0. Awesome job, AP & Avery. One very dodge looking dude that mangy menj.

[@Para5555-hp7it]

Prophet Google peace be upon him

[@Kimkong2]

🤣🤣

[@cutiepatootie477]

46:19 the crickets literally took me OUT 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@thaboharryletsholo6586]

What a joke to be a muslim today 😂😢

[@pablosanchez116]

man get Bob speakers corner in here ! haha

[@yohan1370]

lol this dude doing the “I might not be a muslim” shuffle.

[@JesusIsKing-s6q]

I am ready for a fantastic video!

[@hiltonyoung3066]

When you can't provide evidence, references, or sources to back up your claim, it automatically dispels and discredits a person's argument.

[@Giorgi755]

the Quran says Christianity will be the majority.. the Hadith says Islam will be the minority

[@clearasmudyeah6083]

The quran and the hadiths are CLEAR AS MUD. Yeah.

[@Aishas_Goat]

@@clearasmudyeah6083Hadith says “islam will crawl back like the serpent of Satan; back into its hole between the last 2 mosques” a.muslim146 🕳️ 🕌 🐍 🕌 🕳️

[@zulfiqarashraf5619]

Majority and minority is not a criteria truth should be. Howmany disples jesus had?12 rejecter and runner. Howmany disples prophet had ???

[@Kvicha7777]

@@zulfiqarashraf5619 better yet, ask yourself how many women prophet graped, how many men he killed, how many children he defiled. much better questions

[@Followerofchrist93]

@@zulfiqarashraf5619lol but that’s the criteria muslims use to claim Islam is true. Why when we use the exact same logic, it is not valid?

[@FleezyTTV]

“We can’t because the government doesn’t allow it” so is they did you would marry a kid? Disgusting

[@danpaulisbitski]

🤦‍♂️Wow! Just wow!

[@PostalManiacMusic]

Damn i need to get me some of what AP is cooking!

[@airkami]

I hit the like button because I am not a black stone kisser

[@Coptic-2024]

35:49 AP and Issa reactions 😂😂😂

[@marianaydin3819]

Muslim apologist is all over the place.

[@Barbarae11]

I have yet to ever come across any honest and/or intelligent, sincere devotees to the Truth/TRUTH among Muslim so-called Apologists! 🙄😪😪😭😒 - Just 🤮👿😞

[@s1ugtrail978]

You mean Jews and non-christians didn't think Christ was god. You can only be a Christian if you believe Christ is God.... To say otherwise is a logical fallacy....

[@fab-factor.space.]

Christian means follower of Christ not follower of Trinity, Trinity is based on paganism which existed in worship of false dieties, do your own research and you will see this!

[@cowdyayaad6378]

Muslims (& unitarian christians/jews of past whom Quran calls believers) are saints of daniel 7: Beasts: Lion: Babylon. Bear: Persia. Leopard: Greece. 4 heads are 4 kingdoms it divided into. Beast: Rome. Little horn might be hadrian. Eastern & western rome are iron & clay. Son of man representing God's saints just as beasts represented kingdoms (v14, 27): Saints are daniel 2's stone who ended the feet/beast. Muslims ended it by ending eastern so they're saints. Dominion over all will be in future under Messiah or is hyperbole like daniel 2:38,39. Time between little horn's rise & beast's end would be "time, times & half". Based on daniel 12:7-12, it means 1335 yamim (means days but also years like in amos 4:4). Time between hadrian's rise & muslim conquest of eastern rome was 1335 years 9 months. God isn't a son of man (numbers 23:19) nor is "given" a kingdom, rather He sets it. Saying son of man is God because he comes with (not on) clouds & receives pelach is a deductive fallacy. These are also in the symbolic dream part (not the explanation part). "All will worship him" is a mistranslation & targums prove pelach is aramaic of abad (service or reverence) either to God (worship) or to men (not worship). No reason to chose the formar over the later. Even if son of man is Jesus, we revere him. Hadrian as little horn: Attempt to change times & laws: Banned sabbath, biblical holidays, hebrew calender, jewish courts, torah/law study, ritual practices (all followed by non pauline christians & jews whom Quran calls believers (saints) of the past) & imposed his policies. Words against God: Paganised holy city & made pagan temples on temple mount & Jesus's alledged tomb. Rebuilt pantheon, deified himself (like others did) & his bf. Opression: Against divine law abiding christians & jews. Banned them from jerusalem, unalived 600k jews, sold many. 10 & 3 horns: KJV: "10 horns out of this kingdom are 10 kings that'll arise." Not that only they'll rise, neither did only 4 empires (v17) rise. Usurped kings who left no horn due to it being uprooted by other horns fall outside 10. 3 before hadrian were such leaving us with 10. 3 of the 10 fell to senate/prefects' plot. Hadrian humbled (aramaic says humbled, not fought) the 3 by ruling the empire they left without fail just as stone crushed already destroyed gold by ruling their former land. The rest died naturally including claudius (ref: john aveline) Tying with early before the fact interpretations: Some early jews said there could be gaps after each specific periods (7 weeks, 62 weeks, half a week) in daniel 9 (same as what modern christians say). They said the last week was initiated by the ruler vespasian. Its 1st half was carried by general titus and 2nd half was carried by emperor hadrian ending with Jerusalem's end (ref: jerome's commentary on daniel 9:24-27 last paragraph). It happened in 135 november. If so, in earlier half of 132 (half a week earlier) came the abomination (appointment of false Messiah simon as leader of Jerusalem fits the time) on whose wing came the desolator (hadrian responded with war in 132 which was a divine punishment from God) until end is poured on the desolate (Jerusalem became aelia in 135). If the last half week is about antichrist, I can't see to which desolate the end will come (since Messiah will build and not end Jerusalem), so hadrian makes more sense. Some say desolate means desolator but that's unlikely. 1290 years 1 month have passed from that abomination till when murad ii laid seige to byzantine capital in 1422 but could not keep control over it. For the seige to become permanent, the muslims had to persevere till 1453 which is 1335 years 9 months (yamim as years is early interpretation done by likes of gaon or rashi) after hadrian's enthronement. (check britannica: fall of constantinople) The first half of last week would btw be from spring of 67 to autumn of 70 ending with the taking away of sacrifice (ref: josephus, war of the jews, 6.6) An annointed (not "the" annointed implying a different one) was removed & had nothing after (not at the end of) 69 weeks during when the temple was destroyed (1st half of last week). So it should be the last annointed high priest since he was unalived during temple destruction and left no legacy (had nothing) unlike Jesus who christians say ressurected and had a spiritual kingdom (gained more). There is no reason to think the abomination of daniel 12 is that of antiochus iv because in reality it lasted for just 3 years (not 3.5). There is also no reason to think the end of the 1335 yamim is resurrection since only God knows the hour and he revealed it to none. Instead as daniel 7 says, it is when saints took away the dominion of 4th beast's little horn's kingdom.

[@s1ugtrail978]

@@cowdyayaad6378 First off, from a Christian point of view, Daniel’s vision in chapter 7 is widely accepted as representing four empires-Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome. The "little horn" is seen as some future figure, often tied to the Antichrist, coming out of the remnants of the Roman Empire. So, trying to pin this on a historical figure like Hadrian doesn't make sense in Christian eschatology. That’s not how these prophecies work. The "Son of Man" in Daniel is viewed as Jesus, who’s prophesied to establish an eternal kingdom. This isn’t just some vague interpretation either-it lines up with what’s written in the New Testament (like in Matthew 26:64 or Revelation 1:13), where Jesus fulfills those Old Testament prophecies. You brought up Hadrian, but that doesn’t add up when you’re looking at the Christian interpretation of the "little horn." Hadrian’s actions and the timeline don’t match the characteristics of this figure, who’s supposed to be this ultimate evil, deceptive force. The whole "time, times, and half a time" or 1335 days/years thing? That's usually seen as future-oriented, dealing with the end times, not anything historical like Hadrian’s reign. Now regarding the Islamic side of things, what you’re saying doesn’t work here either. Islam views Jesus (Isa) as a prophet, not the Son of God, and the Quran outright rejects the idea of Jesus being divine (check Quran 4:171). So, interpreting the "Son of Man" in Daniel as Jesus doesn’t fit with Islamic theology. On top of that, Islamic scholars don’t connect their eschatological figures or history to Daniel’s prophecies. You won’t find any Islamic teaching suggesting that the Muslim conquests fulfill those specific prophecies. Islamic exegesis doesn’t back up your understanding of the "little horn" or the beasts in Daniel either. You won’t see Hadrian or any Roman emperor connected to Islamic eschatology. Whether you’re looking at the Quran, Hadith, or Tafsir, there’s no mention of Islamic conquests being tied to these specific biblical prophecies. And that whole "abomination of desolation" thing? Islamic texts don’t associate that with Hadrian or Roman actions, and it’s not part of their end-times beliefs. It seems like you don't really know what you're talking about as your drawing some pretty broad conclusions that don’t take into account how complex the situation actually was. Muhammad was a merchant and had contact with Christian and Jewish communities, so it’s likely he picked up some of their religious ideas. The Quran includes figures from the Bible-like Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus-but those stories are adapted to fit within an Islamic context. Early Islamic texts were influenced by the religious environment of that time, with Islam responding to and drawing from both Christian and Jewish traditions. Muhammad’s teachings didn’t come out of a vacuum-there was a lot of religious dialogue happening at that time, but that’s not the same as saying Islam is just a continuation of Christianity. Especially considering the fact that the people of the area did not even believe anything remotely close to Christianity let alone Judaism prior to Muhammad forcing Islam upon everyone else... When it comes to the expansion of Islam, it was driven by both religious and political motivations. But these conquests don't fulfill biblical prophecies, especially from Daniel. That’s not based on anything from either Christian or Islamic tradition. In Islamic teachings, the early conquests are not viewed as fulfilling Daniel’s prophecies to begin with... And it is because of these factors that Islam more than likely is nothing but a sham of ripped off religions mashed into one. Lastly, there’s no real support for the idea that Hadrian’s reign or the actions of the Roman Empire line up with the "abomination of desolation" in Daniel. Islamic sources don’t make that connection, and Islamic end-times beliefs, as found in the Hadith, don’t mention any of these events. They follow a completely separate prophetic timeline. If you look at the scholarly research on early Islam, you’ll find that historians like al-Tabari and Ibn Ishaq describe Muhammad’s interactions with Christians and Jews. Archaeological findings from the period also show some connections between early Islam and neighboring Christian communities, but this just shows that Islam developed in dialogue with its neighbors. It doesn’t mean Islam is simply a continuation of the one true religion. So to put it simply your interpretation of Daniel’s prophecies doesn’t align with either Christian or Islamic teachings. Christians see those prophecies as referring to future events, not historical figures like Hadrian. Islamic traditions don’t tie their historical events, like the early Muslim conquests, to those prophecies either. Plus, the historical origins of Islam are way more underhanded than just being a continuation or derivative of Christianity. You’re oversimplifying both the religious and historical contexts here.

[@s1ugtrail978]

@@cowdyayaad6378 First off, from a Christian perspective, Daniel’s vision in chapter 7 is widely understood as pointing to four empires-Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome. The "little horn" is usually seen as a future figure, often tied to the Antichrist, coming out of the remnants of the Roman Empire. So, trying to link this to someone like Hadrian just doesn’t work in Christian eschatology. The "Son of Man" in Daniel is recognized as Jesus, who’s expected to establish an eternal kingdom. This interpretation isn't just a guess either-it lines up with what’s written in the New Testament, like Matthew 26:64 or Revelation 1:13, where Jesus fulfills the Old Testament prophecies. You mentioned Hadrian, but that just doesn’t fit with the Christian view of the "little horn." Hadrian’s actions don’t match the traits of the Antichrist, who’s expected to be this deeply evil figure. The timeline tied to the "time, times, and half a time" or 1335 days/years is usually seen as dealing with future end-time events, not something historical like Hadrian’s reign. Now, from an Islamic standpoint, what you're saying also doesn’t really hold up. In Islam, Jesus (Isa) is seen as a prophet, not the Son of God, and the Quran specifically rejects the idea of Jesus being divine (Quran 4:171). So, interpreting the "Son of Man" in Daniel as Jesus just doesn’t fit with Islamic theology. Islamic scholars also don’t tie their eschatological figures or history to Daniel’s prophecies. You won’t find any Islamic teachings suggesting that the early Muslim conquests fulfilled those biblical prophecies. As for your understanding of the "little horn" or the beasts in Daniel, Islamic interpretations don’t back it up either. Hadrian or any Roman emperor doesn’t get linked to Islamic eschatology. If you look at the Quran, Hadith, or Tafsir, there’s nothing that connects the Islamic conquests to those biblical prophecies. The "abomination of desolation" isn’t something Islamic texts tie to Hadrian or Roman actions, and it doesn’t play any role in Islamic end-times beliefs. It looks like you're drawing some broad conclusions here that don’t really account for the complexities involved. Muhammad, as a merchant, definitely had contact with Christian and Jewish communities, so it makes sense that he would have been influenced by their religious ideas. The Quran includes biblical figures like Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus, but those stories are adapted to fit within an Islamic framework. Early Islamic texts reflect this environment, and Islam did respond to and draw from Christian and Jewish traditions. But saying Islam is just a continuation of Christianity is a big oversimplification, especially when you look at the distinct differences between the two. When it comes to the expansion of Islam, both religious and political motivations were at play. But saying these conquests fulfill biblical prophecies, especially those in Daniel, just doesn’t hold water. That idea isn’t supported by Christian or Islamic tradition. In fact, the early Muslim conquests aren’t viewed as fulfilling Daniel’s prophecies at all. Lastly, there’s no solid support for the idea that Hadrian’s reign or the Roman Empire’s actions line up with the "abomination of desolation" in Daniel. Islamic sources don’t make that connection, and their end-times beliefs, found in the Hadith, don’t mention these events. They follow a completely separate prophetic timeline. When you look at the scholarly research on early Islam, historians like al-Tabari and Ibn Ishaq talk about Muhammad’s interactions with Christians and Jews. Archaeological evidence from that time shows some connections between early Islam and neighboring Christian communities, but that just shows that Islam developed in dialogue with its neighbors. It doesn’t mean that Islam is a continuation or offshoot of Christianity. In short, your interpretation of Daniel’s prophecies doesn’t align with either Christian or Islamic teachings. Christians view these prophecies as referring to future events, not historical figures like Hadrian. Islamic traditions don’t connect their early history or conquests to these prophecies either. Islam’s origins and development are far more complex and underhanded than simply being a continuation of Christianity. You’re oversimplifying the whole picture here.

[@s1ugtrail978]

@@cowdyayaad6378 First off, from a Christian perspective, Daniel’s vision in chapter 7 is widely understood as pointing to four empires-Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome. The "little horn" is usually seen as a future figure, often tied to the Antichrist, coming out of the remnants of the Roman Empire. So, trying to link this to someone like Hadrian just doesn’t work in Christian eschatology. The "Son of Man" in Daniel is recognized as Jesus, who’s expected to establish an eternal kingdom. This interpretation isn't just a guess either-it lines up with what’s written in the New Testament, like Matthew 26:64 or Revelation 1:13, where Jesus fulfills the Old Testament prophecies.

[@bin4709]

43:49 Can you give me the evidence for that wild claim? "Google it. Google is there."

[@sheerbtwsheer]

YESSIRRRR

[@mphumenyambi7045]

I thought Megatron was a robotic/car space alien😮

[@JoschaviaMompremier]

Metatron, it is an angel. In the Haitian esoteric science, it is considered a mighty fallen angel.

[@Raynard-xy4yh]

I feel bad for the other muslim. He was actually asking genuise questions

[@6igPP]

Christian: Is it ok for Momo to marry 6 yo Aisha at 54 yo? Abddool: Yes Christian: Would you give your 6 yo daughter to a 54 yo to marry and mount her? Abdool: Nooooo 👺👺👺

[@lesmen4]

These exchanges help muslims to see the ultra holes in the narrative.

[@tatoodfuk]

Sheesh who knew google could solve all of our religious debates? 🙄

[@jozsefcsonka3099]

1 and a half christian vs 1 and a half muslim 😅

[@JoschaviaMompremier]

Who is the half Christian?

[@jozsefcsonka3099]

@@JoschaviaMompremier AP is half way to christianity :)

[@KennyKharbudon]

Half brain girl😂

[@davids7646]

Apostate prophet. He claims to be purely atheist but he is no stranger to christian apologist when doing debates with muslims lol.​@@JoschaviaMompremier

[@K.Whitesilver]

That's the level of malaysia education.💯.

[@kyourybus1986]

Megatron was supposedly Enoch, not Ezra.

[@bankubanga789]

Lol 😂 😆 🤣 bruh these Muslims weren't ready

[@MooseMang]

The debate was over before it even began. Team 1: Christian & agnostic. Team 2: Muslim & universalist. Game Over.

[@boxingdrama]

Muslim Apologist guy was allegedly charged in Malaysia for possessing Child P. Reason why he loves !slam

[@phillipdowner6255]

Mary wasn't married to Joseph, she was only engaged to him

[@aaronclaro153]

Engaged then married.

[@trytobestme7545]

That recap of the Council of Nicaea by MA WAS EMBARRSING AND FALSE. Church fathers IN THE FIRST CENUTRY have been saying Jesus was God, even is disciples said it in the gospels and letters. Please ask me for sources or verses if youd like.

[@moviestoshare813]

Muslim Apologist (MENJ) Even before I learned he was a pdf file… I had a problem with his Condescending + Delusional attitude. But he is attracted to children… so he’s even worse than I thought

[@kevweegbegbedia2056]

This is obviously a spiritual problem, for someone to say what's wrong with sleeping with young girls. These people need deliverance.

[@JRR8888]

Satan has confused them. Islam is everything but moral

[@BurgerSleuth-yx1ke]

Jesus is the Truth. Hell is real. We all sin. He died on the cross to pay for our sins, was buried and rose again the third day. Put your faith in Him alone to save you, trust in what He did for you.

[@melsaudio4527]

bro the pink unicorn killed me 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@csolorzano1]

I feel bad for Issa, this debate was freaking hilarious 🤣😂🤣😂

[@Michael-religiondebunk]

ישוע הוא הדרך והאמת והחיים, אף אחד לא בא אל האב שיוצא דרכו

[@raphaelfeneje486]

"If the government wants it us to do it, then it's okay." I didn't know Muslims are moral relativists 😂😂

[@dunoze]

Watch Issa's face in the last couple of minutes . Priceless !! .

[@theimpaler2317]

38:09 on one hand he tries to defend child marriage by saying that it’s okay because other people throughout history did it also and then falsely mentions Rebecca and Mary as trying to say they were married as little girls. Then on the other hand he tries to say that the Quran verse is not talking about little girls!! 😂😂😂

[@hechpee]

30:41 and the shuffling begins 🤣🤣🤣