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@tylerlindblad3240 3 ай бұрын

So I double checked this interaction 15:45 after the game and it turns out I did this wrong. The short version is that I attempted sacrifice both KCI and Esoteric Duplicator to KCI while paying costs for the Esoteric Duplicator trigger from sacrificing my Corridor Monitor token and I can't do this in a way that give me KCI mana for both KCI and Esoteric Duplicator and have triggers for Esoteric Duplicator for both artifacts. During the game, we discussed this interaction a bit and we believed it was fine because I was doing it during paying costs and thus, we believed, Esoteric Duplicator would see both artifacts be sacrificed due to things going on the stack after paying costs and then I could pay for the triggers. I could've sacrificed two of my other artifacts before sacrificing KCI and then used Esoteric Duplicator's activated ability to achieve a similar result but I still messed it up in the game and wanted to point it out in case anyone else tried to do this as well. I discussed my mistake with the other players once I found out and we didn't think it would've changed the outcome if I had done it correctly but if I had misplayed in a tournament, I may have lost the game due to not knowing how this should work and I believe the judge could've ruled that I couldn't undo sacrificing my artifacts and that would've lead to me not having a KCI on my next turn.

@tylerlindblad3240 3 ай бұрын

I can't get both KCI mana and Esoteric Duplicator triggers, even while attempting to do this while paying costs, because Esoteric Duplicator has a triggered ability that only triggers if it is on the battlefield and if I sacrifice it to KCI, Esoteric Duplicator will have already left the battlefield by the time I can sacrifice KCI to itself and I wouldn't get a trigger. A similar thing happens in the reverse case for when I sacrifice KCI first as KCI will already be in the graveyard when I want to sacrifice Esoteric Duplicator to it and thus I can't. This is similar to the KCI + Scrap Trawler + Myr Retriever combo as you need to sacrifice Myr Retriever, a 1 or less CMC artifact and Scrap Trawler while paying costs but l didn't realize that you have to sacrifice Myr Retriever first so that Scrap Trawler will have see it die and then setup a triggered ability that goes on the stack after costs have been payed. This is what I get for not playing Modern when that combo was popular 😅

@MTG_Basics 3 ай бұрын

Thanks Tyler for providing the clarifications and correction! Appreciate you walking through the lines. You’re right that we spent sometime talking about the interactions and there were definitely a lot of lines you could had taken, so the game was already decided at that point, just wanted to show case a cool way to get there! Thanks for the games!! (Still killing Arcum onsite, now there’s video proof)

@O6R3M4N 3 ай бұрын

I love that you guys have the turns bookmarked. Often times with games where edits are made to shorten the video it can be hard to keep track of turns. Also love the in person games. I feel like the chemistry/vibes are better when everyone is in the same room.

@MTG_Basics 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! We like keeping track of turns internally just to average out how long on averages games will last. I think table banter is easier IRL, and people can be more in the moment, but there are def pros and cons for IRL vs spell table.