International DT466E Coolant Leak from Timing Cover - Part 2

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Watch Wes Work

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@suzuki230
@suzuki230 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve never seen a more accurate video of basically explaining how working on stuff goes, it’s just always one thing after another, props to you man. Way to keep pushing.
@WatchWesWork
@WatchWesWork 5 жыл бұрын
Yes! It's not all rainbows and happiness. Everything is junk and someone has always been there before you!
@gtfkt
@gtfkt 5 жыл бұрын
I'm going with "everybody who touched that cover before Wes had never worked on anything before ever".
@WatchWesWork
@WatchWesWork 5 жыл бұрын
Seems that way!
@arnoldromppai5395
@arnoldromppai5395 5 жыл бұрын
not always, i take it you have not worked on much, never mind aluminum parts/steel bolts, something old that is made up of mix of metals chances are threads are going to come out with the steel bolts
@aserta
@aserta 5 жыл бұрын
I'm going with "the people who touched that had left feet instead of hands".
@jonka1
@jonka1 5 жыл бұрын
As for every thread stipped out---- My money is on an impact gun (so much faster than those silly wrenches).
@larrycroft470
@larrycroft470 5 жыл бұрын
Wes you are a remarkable mechanic I enjoy watching your channel while learning a great deal.
@WatchWesWork
@WatchWesWork 5 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@mikelezcurra810
@mikelezcurra810 4 жыл бұрын
I love that Wes has the humility to show his moments of struggle, so we can all learn!
@MrVile-bz9fw
@MrVile-bz9fw 5 жыл бұрын
Wes, I worked on Fleet Navistars (Internationals} 33yrs and I found many bolts {very important } bolt holes in key locations TRUELY messed up. I attribute that to many Wanna be mechanics, who had no right calling themselves mechanic. You marvel me with your open mind, always going back to basic reasoning. NEVER lose that open minded point of view and you will go far with out too many costly mistakes. I really enjoy your channel and at a point in time would of enjoyed working with ya!
@cncshrops
@cncshrops 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone who has worked on older stuff like this as a micro business knows how this rolls: the crappier the job, the more the onus is on you to improvise, economise and re-use. It's all painfully familiar. Well done, you're not alone.
@cornbreadntatersalad1634
@cornbreadntatersalad1634 5 жыл бұрын
Amen
@dean754
@dean754 5 жыл бұрын
I like your honesty and humility when things don’t go to plan. Engines are complicated systems and take time and experience to understand sometimes. You did your best and it worked out well in the end. Good job Wes👍🏽🏁🍻
@jimbrod9696
@jimbrod9696 5 жыл бұрын
as a canadian that worked on plow trucks for years at international i feel your pain, salt is awesome. and that job no matter what is miserable
@WatchWesWork
@WatchWesWork 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, there's no way around the suffering.
@jimbrod9696
@jimbrod9696 5 жыл бұрын
@@WatchWesWork just a follow up on the gear-rotor pumps you always need to pre lube with white grease to get them to suck oil, the DT's always did that, from first gen up to maxxforce
@davehevner8219
@davehevner8219 Жыл бұрын
Wes, I had to laugh at the comment on taking a picture of timing gears before putting cover on. I too had the middle of night doubt experience. I ordered all timing chain replacement parts for my daughters car and 3 days after received a part in the mail from manufacturer saying “ here is the part we forgot to send ! Well I had a HS moment Knowing I had removed all timing chain parts and did I forget to put this part back in because I didn’t have it in my new parts ? We’ll car is still running and I say a prayer daily now. You really relate all of our personal experiences with these videos. Great work. I watch all the time.
@isoguy.
@isoguy. 5 жыл бұрын
Because of the cost of stripping the cover out I would have advised the customer to buy a new one. However, its the customers call after you explain the options and risks. Great vid and thanks for sharing 👍👍👍
@NoWr2Run
@NoWr2Run 5 жыл бұрын
I agree, NEW COVER then explain the risks of using other covers.
@arnoldromppai5395
@arnoldromppai5395 5 жыл бұрын
@@NoWr2Run after the fact, no way, the customer may nor agree or not want to put that much into it, if asembled right you stand a 98% no problems later using the old, i have dont it a few times with no fail, it is not like there a lot of pressser behind it, and if you do, you have bigger problems
@load4less
@load4less 3 жыл бұрын
How much yo fix this problem
@NitroGuyJH
@NitroGuyJH 5 жыл бұрын
I was scared when you said everything has to be taken apart again. It was a genuine sigh of relief when that thing started.
@facundofuentez582
@facundofuentez582 2 жыл бұрын
It’s never too late to appreciate great workmanship! You keep making your videos and you’ll always have your viewers entertained and educated. Not to mention you immense ability to teach us a wider stretch of the English language.
@spud-from-Nam
@spud-from-Nam 5 жыл бұрын
You're a good wrench. There was many a night when I had a hard time getting to sleep, going through in my mind whether I had tightened that bolt or hit those marks correctly. Good idea taking a picture.
@pudermcgavin4462
@pudermcgavin4462 5 жыл бұрын
New part always new part saves a come back save a headache and using anything else marries you to this truck forever
@richardbaumeister466
@richardbaumeister466 5 жыл бұрын
When in doubt, Dont Get The Torches Out. Wes you are by far my favorite KZbin Mechanic! I'm a 63 year old disabled and retired Jack of all trades and a Master of none. Lol Aluminum and cast Iron do not play well together especially in a wet environment as you have seen. Electrolysis happens.
@jlucasound
@jlucasound 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't intentionally watch out of order. And you wanted this out of your shop in this video. I am so glad you got that issue out of the way, eventually. Runs great now. Like you said, amazing it ran at all. You are a worthy man, Wes. Thanks for sharing your not so good experience with this truck. I would trust you as my mechanic any day! We live and learn. We are human. Nobody is perfect. You are now a little closer, though. ;-)
@calvinwright1816
@calvinwright1816 5 жыл бұрын
"while I was looking for a suitable fan belt to hang myself" I might have laffed a little to much on that one! 😅🤣😂
@pinwizz69
@pinwizz69 2 жыл бұрын
Friggen unbelievable how you put up with some of the FUBAR stuff you put up with and yet manage to actually fix. Incredible job you did in this SNAFU.
@satguy
@satguy 3 жыл бұрын
I say you let the customer decide. You give them all the options, all the pros and cons, if they ask you, you do the professional thing and recommend new replacement. You also make it abundantly clear unless you put a new unit on, there is no warranty whatsoever and put all of it in writing. When I was turning wrenches that's how I handled similar situations.
@eavesstreet6307
@eavesstreet6307 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely a new one. You did all that work and let's say a week later it breaks or starts leaking.
@FredMiller
@FredMiller 5 жыл бұрын
Congrats Wes. What a nightmare project. I felt your frustration when it was not building pressure and the thought of having to disassemble the cover again. Great save!
@WatchWesWork
@WatchWesWork 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah the fan belt was calling...
@rgmoore
@rgmoore 4 жыл бұрын
Wes, I'm a robot sent back in time to tell you that you forgot two bolt for the oil intake on the lower part of the timing cover. Great video Wes, I appreciate your work!
@WatchWesWork
@WatchWesWork 4 жыл бұрын
You need to look into this for real. It could save me a lot of aggravation.
@davelowe1977
@davelowe1977 5 жыл бұрын
I can't think of a single redeeming feature of that truck or engine design. I've not seen anything vintage like that since the 50s where I live. You have the patience and attention to detail of a saint!
@TheSynthnut
@TheSynthnut 5 жыл бұрын
I'm with you on the tidying thing Wes. If I'm feeling mad or things just seem to be going to pieces, it's kinda cathartic to put something you can control in order!
@xyz4469
@xyz4469 5 жыл бұрын
I think it was the best, that you fixed the old cover, BECAUSE everyone can change parts, but not everyone can repair stuff. Great deal. Well done.Greetings from germany.
@WatchWesWork
@WatchWesWork 5 жыл бұрын
That's true, but may not have been the right choice. I guess we will find out!
@bevanson
@bevanson 4 жыл бұрын
Fixing up the old one was the best decision, working on shit-boxes requires compromise. It’s amazing what you can get to work and keep working.
@Tugabud2
@Tugabud2 5 жыл бұрын
You made my heart sink you said you might have to pull off everything and check all of the seals. I really felt for you, all that work, all that time. But, I was so gratified at the end when you solved the problem and got a some oil pressure. It is amazing what a few millimeters of wear can do. Kudos for an outstanding job, I don't think these people in town probably appreciate you as much as they should. Keep up the good work and thank you for these interesting videos.
@chadwalton8448
@chadwalton8448 5 жыл бұрын
A tip. When you do an oil pump, pack the pump housing full of engine assembly lube. It helps create the vacuum to pull oil up, reduces initial dry scoring, and helps to reduce burning of the front main seal. Good job though.
@andrewhudson1912
@andrewhudson1912 3 жыл бұрын
Brooo, you are a life saver. Well, time saver. Like you mentioned, I couldn’t find crap on this job anywhere. You provided me everything need. And luckily I’m from Texas, so no rusty bolts 😆.
@nelsonhouchen6541
@nelsonhouchen6541 5 жыл бұрын
Great, great, video Mr Wes! When I was a young mechanic years ago I worked on sh*t like that, thankfully I’m retired now but was sweating bullets watching you work on that oxidized hunk of boat anchor. Way to keep fighting Murphy’s law and winning!!
@wymershandymanservice9965
@wymershandymanservice9965 5 жыл бұрын
Aren’t you glad you are doing the work in the days of cellphones and easy pictures. Things are so much easier to check and recheck since a camera is always in your pocket. You do great work and explain the process well. Used to hate timing gears on Mack early E-series motors hot plate and oil to expand and replace. 👍👍
@WatchWesWork
@WatchWesWork 5 жыл бұрын
I love having a camera with me at all times. I always doubt myself.
@wheelieking71
@wheelieking71 5 жыл бұрын
Petroleum jelly works well to help oil pumps prime themselves as well. Pack the pump clear full before assembly. They prime pretty quick that way.
@WatchWesWork
@WatchWesWork 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I should have done that first. I've never had one not prime with just oil on the gears.
@kevinhornbuckle
@kevinhornbuckle 5 жыл бұрын
Good tip!
@thomasolsen8052
@thomasolsen8052 3 жыл бұрын
I always coated oil pump gears with STP oil treatment stuff.
@thomashopkins2609
@thomashopkins2609 5 жыл бұрын
I was having flashbacks when you were cranking what seemed like forever. I've never worked on a diesel engine and am very impressed with your skill level and work ethic. I'll try to remember that when I am looking for the right sized fan belt to hang myself with! Love to watch you work!
@WatchWesWork
@WatchWesWork 5 жыл бұрын
LOL. I think any size will do it if you try hard enough.
@beckywatt5048
@beckywatt5048 5 жыл бұрын
Thomas Hopkins The belts for a Ford truck with a powerstroke in them are about the longest I've seen at about 10 ft.
@coleholland6903
@coleholland6903 5 жыл бұрын
I was told to never install a DT oil pump without filling it up with lubriplate, that’s what our shop uses for assembly lube, sucks you had to do it twice but now you and I both know. I’m a international tech if you need any help just ask, I really enjoy watching your videos. Oh and yeah you have to crank it for awhile before they fire off
@jimr129
@jimr129 5 жыл бұрын
Wish I had come across your video sooner. I worked in an Intl truck dealership parts dept for 42 years and saw a lot of these covers leaking. There is a TSI letter out on replacing the inner and outer covers. Take the part #'s off both covers and the parts dept can tell you the correct covers to replace the old ones. Possibly kits. The DT engines all have front seals WITH sleeves
@mrbumcraic5046
@mrbumcraic5046 5 жыл бұрын
You have made a wise choice, at the start you mentioned the customer was not flush with cash I’m sure another 15 years of life will come from that timing cover
@WatchWesWork
@WatchWesWork 5 жыл бұрын
I hope so!
@Volcker1929
@Volcker1929 5 жыл бұрын
That was a rollercoaster of emotions.
@malindasamarasinghe9909
@malindasamarasinghe9909 5 жыл бұрын
You are a man of many abilities. I'm not talking about the mechanical ones. I enjoy the narration and the honesty in your videos. Wish you call the best.
@tommypowers9695
@tommypowers9695 5 жыл бұрын
I would of insisted on a new one with that much damage to the part with the size of the job.
@thomaslee4725
@thomaslee4725 5 жыл бұрын
This way when you put it back together you know what you got you ain't got to worry about ship-breaking on you or having to tap and die and all that good crap just go ahead and put it back together and you know what you got amam talk
@Chris-yy7qc
@Chris-yy7qc 4 жыл бұрын
Me, too. Or the customer has to take the risk if he wants me to reuse the old cover.
@PatrickBaptist
@PatrickBaptist 4 жыл бұрын
@@Chris-yy7qc Anytime a customer wants a used part I provide no warranty for the labor. I refuse to have to work more because the customer wants to cheap out on used parts. I don't mind to do it the wrong way, the paying customer deserves to get it their way, but when it doesn't work out, I don't "make it right" and work for free. That's the cost of a gamble.
@yako0000
@yako0000 5 жыл бұрын
you're a real mechanic Wes. nothing's worse than someone bringing you some old rusty truck that nobody has greased for 6 years to work on and then telling you 'we really don't want to spend a lot of money on it'. yet the same people will buy a new $450,000 road grader every 2 years because 'you gotta have new equipment'. it's the same story here.
@cornbreadntatersalad1634
@cornbreadntatersalad1634 5 жыл бұрын
It's the same around here in Alabama I use Dex in all the newer stuff E7 Mack's and Paccar PX-9 (ISL 9 Cummins) and anything with the coolant filters. Green on the old stuff (big Cats or 350 mack) great videos man I'm by no means a professional mechanic but it's what I do for a living is maintaining the fleet of the company I work for. 30 trucks from 6.7 powerstroke to a few DT466 ISL9 Mack 350 & E7 Cat 3126/C6/7 Acert. I could go on but I won't. I'm thankful we don't encounter the rust issues here in the south like you guys do. Merry Christmas Wes that oil pump is.very similar to Cummins engines. Gerotor pump is what it's called. I actually had one fail on an ISL9 with 150k miles. Idler portion of.pump sheared off and destroyed crank/cam/ fuel pump gear sets. Busted inner and outer timing cover and broke crankshaft 50/50 in the 2nd main journal. I took it to a machine shop to see what they could do after I got the bottom end out. My mic says no-go but I needed a second option. Work...
@StreuB1
@StreuB1 4 жыл бұрын
26:40 I found that cleaning is indeed therapeutic when you aren't sure which way to turn when a project goes south. I've had BMW clutch jobs and cylinder heads go south on me and when I am so frustrated I am about the throw my 24" all-16ths, I stop, wash my hands off a bit, grab a clean rag, and begin slowly and methodically wiping down my tools and putting them all away. Then, sweeping the floor, putting things away. Usually by the time that I am done, my brain has settled enough to where I can think more clearly and I have given myself time to rationalize what is going on and gain some perspective. So, you're not alone on the cleaning regiment.
@craigsudman4556
@craigsudman4556 5 жыл бұрын
I would only use the salvage yard if I was desperate, I would do what you did...repair the piece you took off. I don't think the customer would go for the new piece unless there was absolutely no option. Good job Wes, thumbs up.
@n1dp
@n1dp 2 жыл бұрын
The idea of cleaning in the middle chaos and set backs, works. Applies for any job. Resets the brain, gives back a sense of success in a sea of defeat.
@martyscncgarage5275
@martyscncgarage5275 5 жыл бұрын
I'd let the customer decide. I'd personally replace the cover with a new part and make that recommendation. Anything you decide to do on your own is on you. If it doesn't work out, you'll have to test it back down at your expense. If the customer decides, he accepts the risk for anything other than new parts
@zmmj2024
@zmmj2024 5 жыл бұрын
100% Tell the customer the pros and cons, and say you can't guarantee the old part will work for a day but it might last a decade. I'd also make them adopt at least a yearly washing of the engine and entire truck.
@kevincrosby8998
@kevincrosby8998 4 жыл бұрын
If you put the salvaged in you still end up with junk when you are done. I'd tell the customer that if you don't go with new, you get a tail light warranty.
@1575murray
@1575murray 3 жыл бұрын
When you consider the time involved in taking the engine apart to get to the cover and the cost in downtime to the owner getting the work done I would install a new one. It's just too critical to mess around with. Also the owner needs to be instructed to maintain the coolant correctly otherwise this problem will come back again some day.
@Compactmechanic
@Compactmechanic 4 жыл бұрын
At the end of the day, the customer holds the reins on how in depth a repair will be. As the tech, our job is to try to steer them on the right path. Thank goodness I work on stuff in Texas and usually don't have to worry about rust. Personally I wouldn't try to repair something as corroded and damaged as the cover. I would highly recommend to the customer that a used one be installed due to the condition of the rest of the truck. Unfortunately I've attempted repairs on stuff like this only to have to be back in it within a year because corrosion ate out another part of it. I believe you handled it correctly. New subscriber and really enjoying your content.
@whoolph
@whoolph 5 жыл бұрын
Yes . . . . cleaning the work area and putting tools away resets the thinking process . . . . :) good job Wes . . . Rog
@hfraat25
@hfraat25 5 жыл бұрын
In the uk I doubt this truck would be repaired at probably scrap it or fit a cummins engine. Wes you are my hero. Good job.
@eddiereichel9354
@eddiereichel9354 5 жыл бұрын
Just a quick tip. I use like a garden sprayer that you put your roundup in to kill the weeds to fill all kinds of stuff. Differentials, transfer cases, I even adapted one to act as a pressure brake bleeder. The 1 gallon one at home depot is like 10 bucks But anyway You could have used a setup like that to prime that oil system.
@josephbenassi9697
@josephbenassi9697 5 жыл бұрын
Personally I wouldnt use either one of those covers regardless, its the owners coin but it's your reputation at risk also, thanks for sharing.!!
@poolmotorrepairguyFL
@poolmotorrepairguyFL 4 жыл бұрын
The Florida pool pump motor repair guy approved ! that was good info
@alecmccance8409
@alecmccance8409 4 жыл бұрын
Jeez Wes, I bet you were glad to get that truck out of your shop, that fuel injection system seems really complicated compared to 6 litre Cummins motor. But I salute you sir you cracked it in the end, your perseverance knows no bounds, really interesting video. When it wouldn't start initially i felt your pain brother. Best wishes from Manchester UK.
@Vader1957
@Vader1957 5 жыл бұрын
Oil pump will be fine, even warn. The issue was no prime. Happens to everyone at one time or another. Wrenching can be an art as much as a science. Kudos to you for being honest when issues arise. That is what really helps all of us learn. Good video.
@davemack7908
@davemack7908 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great discussion about how this stuff really goes and the risks involved in the decisions necessary. It’s easy to believe that you really do care about this job and your customer. Well done, sir!
@gsallen9588
@gsallen9588 5 жыл бұрын
Bravo! I think you made the best and most economical choice on the timing cover. On tech writing estimates, I usually do my most exact, then add 20% just in case. If things go well the client is happy to be charged a sub-estimate final. If not, the lebensraum usually allows an on-estimate outcome. And... Wow! That work is not only physically demanding but seemingly treacherous as to just what might turn up within all the innards of the mystery components. You must have had a few days of crooked-spine syndrome after working in the gap. And then there's previous "service" legacy - a time capsule that might be home to venomous creatures, so to speak. Such bravery in the face of those complex behemoths is most commendable. Your easy going, explanatory and competent manner makes the videos a pleasure to watch, especially with the good lighting and revealing close-ups. A patient, conscientious temperament seems essential for dealing with all the possible unknowns. . . or a future of hypertension would ensue, accelerated, with added expenses for hurled tools. Thanks for the additional efforts made to document and disseminate your entertaining, and often awe-inducing, endeavors.
@dedrakuhn6103
@dedrakuhn6103 4 жыл бұрын
I learn so much from wes's videos he does an excellent job of explaining what is going on.
@Ashjuk
@Ashjuk 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you found the issue of it not starting. Sounds just like the oil pump on the old Buick V8s as used in the Range Rover/Land Rovers I owned back in the 80s. If you left the oil filter off for too long when doing a filter change the oil would drain from the pump and it would not pressurise on restarting. If that happened you had to strip the pump and pack the gears with Vaseline grease to get it to prime. Suffice to say I always made sure the new filter was ready to go on as soon as I removed the old one. 🙄
@lakesideranch
@lakesideranch 5 жыл бұрын
Great video series Wes! Great fight too, and overcoming all the corroded components allowing you to win like a BOSS. Much respect for your perseverance and drive to do the "right thing" 5 stars bud. Work safe, stay warm Doug@ the "ranch"
@WatchWesWork
@WatchWesWork 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@pearcemachineshop5200
@pearcemachineshop5200 5 жыл бұрын
The wizard Wes strikes again, top job bud I’m impressed as usual. Regards Alan.
@strokervolvo383
@strokervolvo383 3 жыл бұрын
From experience on these junks, prelube the main oil pump as another person mentioned. Also pull the oil temp sensor from the cover and prefill the HPOP oil reservoir. Great job keeping your head on straight, these are the jobs that separate the men from boys.
@walterpchrysler9446
@walterpchrysler9446 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Wes just recently found your channel. Really enjoy your your videos. You really explain the repairs thoroughly. Seeing you put the cam gear and accessory drive gears on brings back a lot of memories. Work for Cummins Eng. building M11/L10. Did a lot of cams and accessory drive gears.
@WatchWesWork
@WatchWesWork 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting. These are pretty easy. The overhead cam engines get kind of involved.
@georgescott1180
@georgescott1180 5 жыл бұрын
Did the right thing lubing up the oil pump. Great job of repair!!! Thanks
@robertklein9190
@robertklein9190 5 жыл бұрын
It's alive again! Nothing like working on anything that plows snow, guaranteed big problems. Replaced 6 bulbs in a pair of plows lights, just $130.00 just for bulbs alone.I think your decision to use old cover was OK, that old gal can't live too much longer without further problems. JB Weld and Right Stuff makes them live another day.
@WatchWesWork
@WatchWesWork 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, we can't put too much lipstick on this old pig!
@pjwarez
@pjwarez 5 жыл бұрын
I love how you close each video. 1: Extreme closeup. 2: Don't blink... EVER. LOL!! Fun videos. I work in IT and know nothing of Diesel Engines... Very interesting to watch.
@nvlvdave
@nvlvdave 5 жыл бұрын
Your perseverance is epic. "...really not that bad of a job..."...looked like a nightmare to me haha. On the timing cover....4th option -used cover from another place??? Great work. I like how you give it a rest and come back after you've thought about it. I do the same thing - I call it "coming back with a new aptitude". I'll give it a break when something is confusing and needs to be thought out, or sometimes when something bad happens (broken bolt, for instance) and I'm getting frustrated. I'll take a break before it all starts going downhill and everything turns to shiate. Another thumbs up, man.
@cdouglas1942
@cdouglas1942 5 жыл бұрын
I was hoping for a JB Weld moment somewhere. Still a thumbs up.
@waynep343
@waynep343 5 жыл бұрын
pickup a tube of StayLube 3331 moly graphite assembly lube... it is not like the lucas assembly lube.. its thick and will stay for weeks in place. i have always put some in the oil pump gears prior to assembly.. in snout mount pumps.. i put some behind the gears/rotors in the housing so there is no rotor housing rubbing.. i also have had to crank engines with the switch in OFF position.. and the OIL FILTER OFF.. so the pump has NO RESTRICTION to pulling oil pump and priming.. as soon as i get oil out the filter.. i screw the filter on and continue cranking for at least 10 seconds. but usually if i assembled the complete engine with stay lube assembly lube on the cam, rod and main bearings.. i don't want to wash it off with oil flow. i would have probably painted the corroded water pump molded gasket groove with some permatex number 1 .. hardening type like you use for freeze plugs.. just a thin coating perhaps smoothed out with a sanded round piece of wood.. so you add to the bottom and sides just slightly.. on molded round insert in a groove seals.. i have used a permatex product.. Flange dressing permatex number 85420.. its actually hylomar in the squeeze tube.. its good for 500F.. does not harden ever, i am talking decades.. and does not wash out with fuels, oils or coolants.. i don't know if you do valve jobs. as in actually having the valve springs off and the valves out of the heads.. i use the 3331 on the valve stem.. working it part way in and out till it slides so smooth.. then i push it all the way thru.. put a little dab on the top of the valve guide and push the seal down.. leaving a small reservoir of the moly graphite assembly lube for later.. i rarely do diesel engines.. most are gasoline engines. the oil systems are similar in either.. this is the sealed power T40 engine oil priming kit.. www.summitracing.com/parts/slp-t40/overview/ you can create your own.. using a garden hand pump sprayer. with the understanding that it won't last forever as the engine oil will effect the check valves in the pump end.. so you will need a new 15 to 20 buck sprayer every few years.. get a second one to pump gear oil in with.. get a third one to pump ATF up thru the bottom pan fill on newer transmissions.. the T40 and others plug into the oil galley between the pump and the oil filter inlet so it back fills/primes the pump.. i have had a few hard to prime engines... crank snout oil pumps.. i have used my hand vacuum pump with a tapered nozzle or hoses stuffed into the oil filter mount where the oil comes out. this creates suction and pulls oil all the way up from the pan.. thru the pump gears and into your hand vacuum pump.. screw the filter on quick and crank the engine.. want to see my current project engine install ... imgur.com/a/WqJfZEj
@horvikhorvath9488
@horvikhorvath9488 5 жыл бұрын
Impossible to guarantee it without a new part. Super job!
@brianwinters4991
@brianwinters4991 5 жыл бұрын
New cover is the way to go , that is a tough job and you dont want to have do it twice . Good job you got her done !
@465maltbie
@465maltbie 5 жыл бұрын
Worth watching just for the tip about the wet sleeves and coolant. Thanks for sharing, Charles
@bostedtap8399
@bostedtap8399 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Wes, better the devil you know, having the second hand one helped favour the original one I would surmise; always a balance in justifying new parts for an older vehicle, and customer cost expectation. If they consider writing the old truck off, then you lose future work on that single vehicle. Great job, and technical information. Thanks for sharing.
@TUMBLINJEST
@TUMBLINJEST 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Wes, I never worked on one of them engines in my life, but, if all else fails, try priming the oil system via the oil pressure switch or gauge plug, maybe make a fitting from an old switch and use an old grease gun to "charge" the oilways with oil.. just an Idea here.. back in the old days on PINTO race engines I built, i could use a correct sized hex bar that fitted the oil pump with the distributor out, put the hex bar in a drill so it spun the oil pump to pressure up the engine, checking the oil flow on the OHC lifters.. when it sprayed out the little oil flow holes you knew it had a pressurised system.. Just saying..love your detailed videos mate.. (ian) - UK
@michaelb.5345
@michaelb.5345 5 жыл бұрын
Install the original one you fixed, advise him that it goes bad , buy a new cover and shove it someplace. Great job so far and your assessment of the whole thing is great also. Love your channel.
@WatchWesWork
@WatchWesWork 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds just right.
@richardlucy3822
@richardlucy3822 3 жыл бұрын
I believe your heading the right in the right direction!
@GrandsonofKong
@GrandsonofKong 5 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine working on this type of truck/engine..EVER..but still found this amazing to watch. So question, if county/city maintenance guys bothered to pressure wash this engine and frame, etc at least once at the end of every plow season to get all the salt off would greatly extend the life of this vehicle..and made your job easier too.
@wornoutwrench8128
@wornoutwrench8128 5 жыл бұрын
The cover from the scrap yard was just that, scrap. So, that leaves the 2 options. How I would have approached it would be to contact the customer and give him the options. But if he chose the repair the old cover option, I would strictly state that there was zero warranty due to the damage and corrosion. I would recommend to order and install a brand new cover but I would still give a limited warranty on the work just due to how "crusty" everything under the hood is. Your welding repair looked fine. You stated early on that the township doesn't have any extra money to spend so going with your repair was probably the best choice for the customer. Well done Wes, good to see another one heading out the door. PS, have been there looking for a belt to hang myself with. Not all jobs go as planned.
@WatchWesWork
@WatchWesWork 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, failure is always an option!
@morgansword
@morgansword 5 жыл бұрын
Stopped at 8:40, to address those grooves for sealing, I use Rite Stuff and it always works when that clean and use sparingly as you don't want it to find places it shouldn't be. On the water pump surface, I would mix some marine tex to that area and then sand smooth so it doesn't cavitate possibly .... your call, and if this is work that has to be warranted, He buys new period. I do some good ol' boy stuff but not customer projects. On with video.... Wes, don't beat on yourself. the DT466 engines are fairly bullet proof. I never use lithium grease in engines as I have seen it plug oil screens tight. I would use wheel bearing grease before that. Once I had to find a oil galley plug and pull it and put a circulating pump for oil and suck it from pan to engine entry point and just pump it full till the magic happens. If your gut says no, just go with it and add it to the bill as there is no time limit on being right. I have watched enough of your work to be very confident in your work. Your good and being gray haired at thirty serves no purpose LOL.
@WatchWesWork
@WatchWesWork 5 жыл бұрын
The Right Stuff is awesome. I use it when needed.
@JlerchTampa
@JlerchTampa 5 жыл бұрын
The Coolant additive topic for Diesel's with wet cylinder's thru me for a loop the first time I heard about it. Once I understood the topic and why it is important it makes perfect sense and is one of those topics where it won't be a problem until it is and once it is a problem it is a massive problem!
@Ryan-dz3jo
@Ryan-dz3jo 5 жыл бұрын
I'd say the longer pan bolts explains the damage to the timing plate casting. Nice work Wes and great to see you overcome the problem.
@WatchWesWork
@WatchWesWork 5 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@silasmarner7586
@silasmarner7586 5 жыл бұрын
That was a really really rough project but you did a really great job and I think you showed caution and due diligence and not wanting to lunch the motor and it's evident from that other timing cover that there's a lot of careless mechanics out there and you're not one of them so congratulations
@WatchWesWork
@WatchWesWork 5 жыл бұрын
Well I'm getting there...
@davewhittington1368
@davewhittington1368 4 жыл бұрын
Was holding my breath when starting 😦😦 phew can breath again. Excellent job and what a honest job. Thanks for sharing
@mctobbsi
@mctobbsi 4 жыл бұрын
On one engine I did it took more than 2 minutes of cranking before the pump got the air out and started sucking. But I also chickened out early at first. Good call replacing all the fasteners!
@williampringle6897
@williampringle6897 3 жыл бұрын
I hope younger vehicle Technicians watch you and learn .I’m retired now but can remember sleepless nights wondering about that 1 little error you might have made . Good luck
@jimgree
@jimgree 11 ай бұрын
I had the exact same problem on a DT one time, and nothing was cracked, the coolant was leaking from a hole the bolt or stud went into. Almost drove me crazy. Your the first I've ever heard that heard that had the same problem.
@DangerousSportsForSeniors
@DangerousSportsForSeniors 5 жыл бұрын
I’m really enjoining the content. I think a new cover would have scrapped the truck. Fixing the original is the only option. I’m sure your repair will hold but I’ll bet it’s not the last we will see of this gem. Thanks.
@WatchWesWork
@WatchWesWork 5 жыл бұрын
Probably not.
@jrgenfriborg3508
@jrgenfriborg3508 3 жыл бұрын
Super job. Not only this video. Have seen 20 of yours videos and all have been good.👍👍👍👍👍
@russb3816
@russb3816 5 жыл бұрын
Yay. You got it running. Great job. My heart dropped before when it didn't start. Nice job!
@mohabatkhanmalak1161
@mohabatkhanmalak1161 5 жыл бұрын
That was a heluva job, and I am sure you would have been glad to see the back of that truck.!
@kenmccormick3052
@kenmccormick3052 4 жыл бұрын
What a great sound- its alive again!
@rancelynch6514
@rancelynch6514 5 жыл бұрын
I'm by no means a mechanic, but from what you've explained I would go with new part. Yes, I know it is going to be a lot of $$$$.$$ but big trucks cost big money!!!!!
@rustybum2
@rustybum2 5 жыл бұрын
Hey young man, totally impressed with your work! It seems there are no limits to your skill a and knowledge. You can tackle the "old-school abandoned in the woods" stuff and the more modern neglected stuff with eqal dedication. Top marks and best regards from that old Yorkshire fart in Ireland.
@WatchWesWork
@WatchWesWork 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@ShnitzlHaus
@ShnitzlHaus 5 жыл бұрын
I always prime pumps prior to installing now. to avoid what you experienced. the pesky pumps in tractors buried and tangled with steel lines is never fun to do twice!
@beckywatt5048
@beckywatt5048 5 жыл бұрын
ShnitzlHaus These type engines , whether cat or IH depending on mileage and or wear if they sit for a length of time the primary low pressure oil pump can lose it's prime , not fun in a Ford chassis . Like you say put the vasaline to it.
@SteveSummers
@SteveSummers 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you got it up and going. I hate that feeling when you just know you have to redo everything you just did. Been there many times. Motor running and eyes pealed waiting for coolant or oil to start hitting the floor. Great when it doesn't happen.👍
@WatchWesWork
@WatchWesWork 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's a sick feeling. Plus that was the day before Thankgiving when I tried to start it the first time. So I had a holiday to stew about it.
@lesmansom7817
@lesmansom7817 5 жыл бұрын
Well done for not chucking a spanner😎 I did my apprenticeship 40 yrs ago on international truck and farm equipment, I see they haven’t improved much. PS Don’t be shy using the silicone on them, They need it when the factory finish is to International standard 😎👍
@WatchWesWork
@WatchWesWork 5 жыл бұрын
Well the service manual tells you to use it, which is crazy!
@alantorrance6153
@alantorrance6153 Жыл бұрын
You are right about ditching that "bad" casting. Just too much damage and stripped out threads. On the casting you are going to use, at 7:58 you have a the place where a gasket is to be situated. That needs to have aluminium welded along that edge to make up the corroded section and to restore its strength.
@kutamsterdam
@kutamsterdam 5 жыл бұрын
Aaah Wes glad you're back and as every-time, ... your misery is our fun because your sarcastic humor almost made me piss my pants🤣, i needed that and i thank you for it, by-the-way i think your editing is top notch👌, never boring and a quick flow to the events, my compliments, make one again soon ... please😉
@georgegoff8298
@georgegoff8298 5 жыл бұрын
JB Weld works wonders!
@woopimagpie
@woopimagpie 5 жыл бұрын
I have to admit that occurred to me also. Not the most professional way of going about it, but it does the job if you're careful with it.
@Chuffin_ell
@Chuffin_ell 5 жыл бұрын
No, it doesn’t.
@prevost8686
@prevost8686 5 жыл бұрын
Too much work to risk .
@Hvtesla
@Hvtesla 5 жыл бұрын
You're a talented repairer with a wide range of skills - a rarity these days!
@WatchWesWork
@WatchWesWork 5 жыл бұрын
I try!
@shovelguggelheim8454
@shovelguggelheim8454 4 жыл бұрын
I guess the first option would always be get the new parts but it depends on the customer and their usage of the vehicle. If they plan to scrap the vehicle in the next year or two and they only use it intermittently the choice would be different to if they were driving across the country on a daily basis. It is always a toss of the coin. Customers always want the cheaper option but as a mechanic you need to be careful that you don't end up with the motto "We do it right because we do it twice". Whoever worked on the cover that you got from the scrap yard was a better mechanic than you think because they were obviously very pedantic with their torque settings of the bolts. Unfortunately the torque specs they used were "Tighten everything until it strips then back it off half a turn" :) Love your work Wes. Cheers from down under.
@WatchWesWork
@WatchWesWork 4 жыл бұрын
Well stay tuned. I may have screwed this one up...
@shovelguggelheim8454
@shovelguggelheim8454 4 жыл бұрын
@@WatchWesWork I highly doubt that .... you're tha man.
@murrayhall908
@murrayhall908 5 жыл бұрын
What a detailed video! I admire your determination and clear thinking in all of your projects. At least the local township will be able to follow yout trials on your video!!! Just keep smiling :-))
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