Interracial Couples Are Fighting For Their Lives | Issa mess!

[@Merrybandoruffians]

Okay, so I have this theory that WM/BW interracial relationships are almost always healthier than BM/WW ones. I think it stems from the fact that BM and WW are socialized into victimhood. And while at its core, it’s true that they are victims of a society designed to oppress them, society teaches them to base their entire identity on that victimhood and make it the defining feature of their experience. It’s reinforced in popular culture, media, and even the social expectations we have of the two groups. On the other hand, WM are not victims, so many of them learn how to be accountable and take responsibility for their actions/experiences organically (Especially nowadays when there’s a big “push” to force them to recon with the actions of their ancestors). And BW are actually victims - and in fact MORE oppressed than both BM and WW due to our double minority identity. But because society’s expectations and tropes are inverted for us (i.e., we’re never given innocence) we’re *forced* into our accountability/responsibility. And there’s actually some data out there that supports my theory (i.e.,BW/WM couples get divorced at MUCH lower levels than BM/WW). So imma call this Back-White Relational Continuum theory and y’all can quote me when you write your PhDs 🤣 _Footnote:_ I hate when people in IRs try to frame other black people as “haters.” I’m in an IR and I 100% understand why people are opposed to them. It’s a lot of work to be with someone who doesn’t, won’t and can’t completely understand such a large part of your life. Plus, your children will (usually) be “read” as black _(unless you’re a bright bright lightskin like Lionel Ritchie)_ so there’s a LOT of pressure on you, alone, as the black parent to help the kids navigate blackness. Some people just don’t feel like lifting these burdens and they shouldn’t be shamed for that.

[@ThemisThoth]

Well isn’t this something. I made this video months ago and decided to scrap it because I could not find a missing link in the research (would be great to do my own study, but I do not have the time). In any case, I agree with your theory. However, my agreement is based on my hunch with something very specific missing. I will have to revisit this.

[@lorelange]

Hi, I disagree with the accountability of WM part. I would say that patriarchy has perks that allow them to not be accountable till this day. "Boys will be boys" teach them very early, how many restraining orders a woman has to fill before she is killed, because for some reason the laws writte by mostly WM won't correctly deal with that. It's only recently that they've been challenged, only challenged, with harassment at work laws that don't work all the time often because it is a culture hard to dismental, the NBA NFL owners bs we've been seeing, all the regular folks caught on tape, and the emergence of these incels threatening people online, and killing left and right cause they couldn't get laid, all due to feminism somehow. Also, when angry they would storm the capital and get a few months in jail. They still can rape girls and get 6 months in jail and get early release because the white male judge thinks it's was enough, usually if he can sees himself or his son in the rapist, especially if the rapist and white and rich. They're barely starting to be challenged, being racist is simply their 1st amendement right, and any type of criticism or bad negative consequences... you want to cancel them, you should get over it, or you're a communist, a snowflake, etc... There is still a lot of arrogance and entitlement.

[@jobunny919]

You just said A WORD!

[@attitudeproblem6462]

I’d say they are. How he gon’ sit up there and say “oh, _surely_ , dis Black Woman is gon’ choose a _b-lack kang!_ …when homeboy is sitting across from them w/ a whole white woman!?🤦🏾‍♀️

[@evertt7326]

Lol! Thanks for this comment. The PhD part made me giggle 😂 I have been researching things related to this in the UK and there is actually a paper from around 2015 called “Falling through the cracks” that talks about black girls falling through the cracks in education as most research doesn’t really focus on them. It focuses on black boys and white girls to the point that the data on black girls education barely exists and is considerably lacking in comparison to the other two groups. It’s a very interesting read because it was done when Obama was president and talks about “post racialism” being naive and damaging too.

[@Bigdaddy099]

Him not addressing the white guy is VERY telling

[@palmtreemrs]

Most BM are like this……so much hatred towards BW/WM relationships while pretending they don’t see BM/WW relationships.

[@Firecracker876]

It’s about to get real cold out here for bm. I’m with a biracial bm, and bm see him as white and they’ve definitely given me dirty looks and complained about seeing us together. But I’ve had WW and HW complain about me being with a LSBM because they felt entitled he should be with them instead, even had DSBM complain about me being with a LSBM while they were with WW, saying I was a jump off for my bf. Listen these nakers have a lot of audacity and once more bw start looking past them and getting better men who happen to be nonbm or biracial bm, those dust bandits will be feeling the frost bite

[@Aggy38447]

@@Firecracker876This never happened

[@Aggy38447]

What hatred do we have on ur relationships???? If anything it’s y’all that h8te on ours 💀💀💀🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿

[@chocolatebubblegum1550]

It’s so interesting that everyone else on the stage is able to embrace a sort of victim hood but Rachel (the black woman) is forced to not only absorb everyone’s guilt, she was also tasked with figuring out how to solve racism. The white woman gets to be virtuous even though she is completely avoiding dealing with the hard issues HER family/friends are promoting! This was exhausting 😒

[@Kelema86]

Yep! She is directly asked to coddle and soothe the white woman. It was truly disgusting.

[@masterreflections]

@@Kelema86 I would have answered, “I don’t know, what is she doing to be accepted already,” and if that is not good enough I would tell her she is on her own because I didn’t hear about any black person that didn’t accept her and therefore I am confused about how to help if there are no examples. Then to be petty, I would ask the white man, my dude, “what could she do about her family and friends?” Redirect that crap off my lap. I’ve done stuff like this in the past, it pisses people off that I don’t bend to their crap. I don’t have time to coddle grown folk!

[@coolcat6341]

Well the white women dropped his ass,,, she said bye bye

[@melinatedvessel6840]

This indeed was exhausting.

[@aloveaffairwithself]

BW take the brunt of everything BM are responsible for. Including his relationship with Becky and her family. They need to go ahead with that. We are moving on and moving up. Black men don’t know how to act, and we tired. We are coming to rest in our femininity with Bryan, Lee, and Pablo.

[@elegantlady8312]

I hated this interview and never watched this guy’s content again! When he said that BM are upset because BW are dating out but never addressed BM dating out i was like 🙄

[@ThemisThoth]

Same. This video was just not it

[@kittykatz4001]

That interviewer was 🗑.

[@tyrishasmith-grady703]

Of course

[@MiamiPush2theLimit]

They’re so needy and dramatic. Just live your lives 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@ThemisThoth]

This part!

[@z.z4596]

!!!

[@nickeeb79]

Black women LITERALLY do not care about ww with bm. You can have em just keep our names out your mouth.

[@Victoria-AI]

All that focus on the BM/WW couple and they're not even together anymore....however, the WM/BW couple- married and still going strong.

[@aloveaffairwithself]

Statistically, BWWM are the longest running marriages out of all the pairings between the sexes.

[@XeniasWorld]

I laughed so hard at "I am taking a strong black man from them" 🤣🤣

[@kittykatz4001]

She’s taking a Blk dude who put picture on the internet of himsrlf in his gf bikini 👙.

[@hymnodyhands]

@@kittykatz4001 WOW... well, yeah, he can stay wherever he is...

[@catflon2388]

It was weird. The whole premise is how accepting blacks were of her while also implying that BW, specifically, had an issue with her🤣🤣🤣. But they could only give examples of whites and BM that were opposed to their relationship. It is confusing. How can we both not support and support at the same time. Pick a truth people, just one. And what does strong mean? And who is she taking him from, we have no ownership on each other. Unless she still thinks of us as cattles 🙄🙄🙄

[@Alyssaj1236]

🤣🤣

[@hymnodyhands]

@@catflon2388 BINGO. She comes from racists who see us as cattle, and she hasn't cut ties with them, so...

[@aaydrian]

It seems as if the host expected the conversation to be about “BW hate seeing WW with a “good BM””. This is why when the WW said her family/friends are racist to her Black BF, the host eventually pivots to how can BW stop the hate towards BM/WW relationship. The whole conversation is fragmented and lacks depth.

[@crochetqueen93]

Right, the talk session is named "Uncomfortable conversations with a black man" yet he didn't want to have THAT conversation.

[@Shineynsparkles]

They were scared I hate to say it but many communities don’t like BM in particular But BM try to make it a black issue When BM know why people hate them … BW are tired of capeing and marching for them Look how the bm was in the entire vid No women wants to be around a dude who can’t defend her

[@crochetqueen93]

@@Shineynsparkles It's true, BM are a problem and they try to make it BW's problem as well. BW really to work on separating from the collective of BM (and black male worshipping women) because we don't need them dragging us down.

[@tamarra1502]

So they’re mad at black woman for dating the king 👑 🤷🏾‍♀️🤷🏾‍♀️

[@Monique-xz3jp]

He literally was IGNORING the WM like he wasn't even there! Smh meanwhile trying to make this WW a freaking VICTIM "WHICH SHE IS NOT!" 🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️ crazy mess

[@denioops2903]

This whole segment was geared towards Rachel and any black woman in a interracial relationship.

[@RDCFemmes]

That's how I felt when I watched it!

[@aloveaffairwithself]

My thoughts exactly. No matter what is going on whether the black man dates out or not, we are responsible for their insecurities. WW can have them.

[@beyankasimmons1336]

Her: “I’m not sad it makes me feel extremely guilty.” Him: “Why?” Her: “Because I am taking a strong black man away from them.” Themis: -__- You can keep him. 😭😂😭 I about fell out of my seat!!! 😂😂😂

[@sxyteesa0890]

☠️

[@z.z4596]

!!!

[@melinatedvessel6840]

Yes please keep him Becks,please..

[@brittanybranch5744]

I can't breef 😂😂

[@darkcontinentschild2962]

They’re not even together anymore🤣😂😩

[@qn7403]

BM and ww relationships sounds like they need a lots of villains for the relationship to survive, they need black women to hate on them so bad, even when black women seem not to care, hence black men always say the reason we date out is because BW blah blah blah! In this relationship it’s clearly the yt people who hate him, but it’s not doing what is supposed to do, giving them the victim thing they get when “hated” by BW! It’s like they poke at black women until they respond! She’s talking about taking from BW like her dating him is an assault on BW! Girl bye

[@denioops2903]

I can attest to this.

[@LedePat]

He wears her bathing suits.....come on. Shes very masculine so any man shes with for a period of time will be feminine

[@bonita-u9ve]

Who gives a f , that dude already submissive and a cat lover !! If he feels he can't express that fruity side of him fully with a brown skinned girl (and everytime you fall 💩 he's gonna be mad at you for that, mad at you cause you got short hair 👽mad at you BC you are willing to take on and fight against the"man"👻 unlike him .Let him go be with the ww FFS y'all would prefer to die broke in ghetto love to keep your black stripes

[@lifeis2171]

I thought he was gay. No offense.

[@BlackTalkNoLimits]

I was so frustrated and annoyed with this interview. As a Black woman married to a white guy, the interview was trash. I expect more than questions from my partner. Action speak louder than words. I am still in the fight for Black liberation. Black women did not create white supremacy, racial categories, miscegenation laws, or European beauty standards There is accountability to be had. Black women are already doing the work. We need everyone else to step it up.

[@crochetqueen93]

You need to rest. Enjoy your marriage with your husband. It's actually not your job as a black woman to fight for black liberation. It's on black men. Especially given the fact that black women have done more than enough. Please leave it to black men to pick up the slack, and if they don't care, you certainly don't have to care. I obviously can't tell you what to do, but it'll be more conducive for black women to redirect their focus and attention to only black women and girls.

[@blackgurldaily4055]

@@crochetqueen93 this was lovely and beautifully spoken

[@anywhoo]

Amen

[@gaitsmarialegae8080]

Doing the work? In what way and can you please provide some data to back up that assertion because there are too many that contradict that notion

[@hymnodyhands]

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[@d.fattyadams1313]

I wish the world would leave black women alone. We haven't done anything to anybody. And I don't care what other black men do. Besides, you can't steal a donation. Some of these black men couldn't pull a black woman to save their lives. Periodt.

[@ZariDV]

It's so unsettling and creepy when people paint "dating out" as a betrayal. Particularly bm who try to make bw feel guilty or ashamed for dating/marrying non-black men. It's not just the hypocrisy, it's that gross sense of ownership. It's like they think they own all black women and are entitled to each one. It's repulsive.

[@illoyd04]

This interview is what made me dislike Emmanuel. He and Rachel were supposed to be friends and he totally gas lit her even though her relationship was actually genuine and is still going strong.

[@black_anime3747]

So the point of this interview was to validate ww and bm victomhood instead of having an educated conversation… Got it continue. 😂

[@nycsweetnessniijiamarukhan7918]

I remember Carlton (Alfonso Ribeiro) from the Fresh Prince show was crying out this very thing. Saying the blk community doesn't accept him over his IR marriage

[@ThemisThoth]

I remember this.

[@ThemisThoth]

A mess

[@Sony-u8p]

Most people didn't know he was married or hetero and really didn't care.

[@alienunicorn4178]

Most of didn't know he was married

[@zua77]

@@raeray815 Yes, I have seen that man since Fresh Prince days. I didn’t know he was married or had kids. He really think’s he’s on Will Smiths level. Carlton you are not a big Hollywood name, and you are not a favored entertainer in the black community.

[@rhondaherbert9282]

Just go on into her community. Im sure you're accepted there. Go where you're wanted and leave other people out of your mess.

[@abigailyah3462]

Exactly, they only focus on and try to bully blk people.

[@ThemisThoth]

This!

[@ThemisThoth]

@@abigailyah3462 precisely

[@honieethesolarpunk4895]

putting the two weakest link of there community in a room with the strongest link then asking silly question omg

[@blackwidowrowe6271]

😂😂😂😂

[@TheSReaction]

I got a good chuckle from the “You can keep him. You can keep him. The strongest and the blackest…you can keep him *sip sip sip*.”

[@Essetheartist]

😂😂😂😂

[@invinciblesummer2844]

I googled Lindsay and she's been with multiple black men before PK. So you're telling me that after seeing her in multiple long term relationships with BM her friends and family are still prejudiced and she and PK are just okay with that

[@ThemisThoth]

It’s probably a whole plot.

[@catflon2388]

It fits the narrative for both of them. Two peas in pod, same mentality really🤣🤣 wished they stayed together..

[@Merrybandoruffians]

Tbh, I believe it. The cognitive dissonance with WW/BM is strong. And I guarantee, she’ll just sit back and watch those same relatives make disgusting micro aggressions against their children. Not to mention, “good” white people are terrified of people finding out that they’re racists because they know it’s not socially acceptable. I guarantee you, her family/friends smile in the dude’s face and are all nice in person while calling him a whole ninja behind his back

[@booboo6373]

@@Merrybandoruffians if a yt person is racist especially against blk ppl they are not good. You're contradicting yourself like this yt woman in the video. You don't get it. Bm and ww are good at playing victim when they are usually the problem. The blk woman has to defend both of them as they continue to try and stamp her out.

[@aloveaffairwithself]

The men of her community don’t want her. That’s why she over there with those BM

[@Londonlink]

Folks there's a difference between being accepted and tolerated most non black people families tolerate you sorry not sorry

[@Patrice9]

That also works the other way around

[@ThemisThoth]

😂

[@lovelyone1675]

@@Patrice9 not really. Black people accept white spouses fully…if they are cool people.

[@thisblackgirloverhere9013]

@@Patrice9 No it’s not the other way around. Black people tend to love them some white folk…and most of them wish they were white. It’s not the same at all.

[@karenwilliams8450]

Because Black people don't have the same Freedom of speech as white people I'll keep my comment to myself!!!

[@misst-1538]

I find the piano in the back sickening. Like 🤢 sickening. It's feels like emotional manipulation. "listen to this peaceful music while this foolish battle takes place in the foreground."

[@AlliterativeAtheist]

Everyone looking to the bw to be advised, uplifted , encouraged is why we need to be mindful of finding the glamour In being called strong . Not only does it say “we can handle it” we are made to do so. So often when we show any display that isn’t strength we are ignored. Our vulnerability is confusing . Ever cry in public and be ignored ?

[@k3sh1a21]

Awww I really like Rachel despite this disappointing worthless interview. I listen to her podcast occasionally. Her and Brian are still married ❤️

[@FocalPointElisa]

The interviewee definitely amplified an unsafe environment to have real conversation. Under different presentation and interviewee I believe Rachel would have spoke with more truth.

[@MsTruthhurts007]

And the other couple are not together anymore, isnt it ironic in my Alanis Morissette voice

[@pri2x0x]

Its interesting the dichotomy here. Rachel's partner said so little yet spoke volumes. Meanwhile the WW said a whole lot of nothing 💀

[@faith6575]

🎯🎯🎯 He say in his power.

[@hymnodyhands]

@@faith6575 He was OPENLY accorded the position of a king ... so he sat there and let those who describe themselves as only powerful enough to be servants talk among themselves BENEATH HIM.

[@blackwidowrowe6271]

Facts. He sat in his Power and Privilege.

[@aloveaffairwithself]

She spoke like she was the man in this relationship. She answered his questions. Even the body language here is that she’s in control.

[@bubullibooooo9928]

​@@aloveaffairwithself He's a king to black men so...he don't gotta talk!

[@purplescorpio4456]

I am a black women who as been with my white husband since we were freshman in high school , we got married at 20 yrs old and we are almost 28. This whole interview was trash mostly. People are people , that whole how do you love a black man thing was super annoying. I hated all of this. Date who you want but stop being weirdos about🤦🏾‍♀️

[@faith6575]

I loved how Rachael's fine a** husband... Chilee he fine lol. I loved how he said nothing, but sat in his power. The strong black man had to overcompensate, overreach, and overreact. He even allowed his white princess to answer for him a few times.

[@hymnodyhands]

Carter G. Woodson said that a broken BM will make a back door he has to go through if there isn't one. We saw how that was done today...

[@faith6575]

@@hymnodyhands WOW!! OOF! that's a word. Wow! So poignant.

[@hymnodyhands]

@@faith6575 Shout out to Dr. Woodson, the father of Black History Week and thus also the month... the ancestor TOLD US the real truth about a lot of his fellow MEN, and he is STILL RIGHT...

[@deborahfrederick916]

Deeann Mathews SIS, A Word. You articulated exactly what I was seeing, and why I was so annoyed with him.

[@faith6575]

@@hymnodyhands He absolutely did! His words are even more resounding now than they were years ago. Thank you so much for sharing this quote because you literally had me at the library today researching him. I also listened to an hour long lecture about his work from another professor on KZbin. ❤️

[@nicholalewis8698]

One thing I learned from watching this interview is P.K. is not her man but her pet on a leash. The interaction between the two of them is fake vs. Ryan and Rachel which is more natural is quite telling. I wasn't surprised when they broke up!

[@deborahfrederick916]

Actually, I think he was the only one who was surprised, especially after his total submission to her as displayed in this video.

[@brownsugako7772]

@@deborahfrederick916 Black men totally submit to ww, and then tell us we're difficult for not submitting. Sh*t's wild!

[@operationtk8906]

You can tell by the body language their is a massive issue between them. He’s super excited to be with her while she looks miserable

[@tyrishasmith-grady703]

Lol so the BM and WW are no longer together 😂😂😂😂

[@Melanin-richh]

Why did I read this title and holler 😂😂

[@ThemisThoth]

😂

[@dolanminaj2381]

One of those interracial couples is now broken up btw…I’ll let y’all take a guess which one😴

[@clardjinesaint-quitte2548]

BM WW

[@maatamandala7257]

"I'm taking a strong black man". Tuh, bish please! This SAME SBM wore a matching swimsuit with her LMAO. I can NOT-

[@lakeshaarmstead3241]

The music is killing me haha 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ThatPrettyGirlYongz]

I can’t stop laughing😂😂. This video gets me every time. We lost a king y’all!

[@marriejames01]

Weird this video is being done now. She gave him back to the “community” last year. I guess she finally realized that BW were unbothered with her taking a Black Kang.

[@niax782]

@@marriejames01 Are they no longer together? Chhhillleee ☕️

[@Tristan11406]

@@niax782 they broke up shortly after the interview video was originally posted to KZbin. I knew they wouldn’t last. Rachel & Brian are still married though.

[@peppermintpattie6006]

Themis, those eye rolls are legendary!

[@ThemisThoth]

😂

[@LifeAfter50withTerree]

I could have sworn it sounded like the host temporarily developed a speech disorder when he tried to say “your white husband,” in reference to Rachel. I swear these guys are a trip🤣🤣🤣

[@BabyGirl-xo2vj]

Rachel and her husband are still married. Pk and his partner broke up a few months after this video.

[@honieethesolarpunk4895]

what she wanted to say is idk how to date a black man and uphold white superemacy

[@bubullibooooo9928]

These black men are upholding white supremacy themselves!😂

[@melinatedvessel6840]

That whole TAKING a strong black man...Huh? This is just par for the course with this type of wht women. She likes the idea of taking something from a blk women,she literally had a devilish smirk on her face during this whole segment... Becks stop playing with us,JUST STOP IT.....

[@kmariamv]

Themis, the title 🤣🤣🤣😅♥️

[@ThemisThoth]

I recorded the video after I read an email and 🥴🥴🥴

[@nia-qx2dc]

right the pettiness 🤣🤣🤣

[@CapricornQueen7425]

The issue here is that the host is in favor of the BM/WW dynamic but not the other way around. So first of all the host is biased. Just like BM are attempting to keep BW trapped in the B.C. dating BM only while supporting BM dating the rainbow. Typical BM Dusty.

[@AP-yd1nt]

This is standard for how little people care about BW. We are only here to prop up BM, WW etc. If the BW went off then they'd say she was an angry BW.

[@aaydrian]

I just got to the part about “Why BM are with the slave master’s daughter”. When I tell you I am HOLLERING!!! Then I see Themis’ and I’m dying. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@blackwidowrowe6271]

I screamed so darn LOUD! These BM are DERANGED. They are performing masculinity and are embarrassing.How can you admit live how you feel WP are above you? Have you no pride or dignity ?

[@tacrewgirl]

I saw this interview a while ago and it's so bad. The questions were very dog whistle pointed towards the BW/WM couple but crickets for the WW/BM couple. The math ain't mathing. Emmanuel painted the narrative he wanted, period.

[@candlecane]

35:20 In university, a BM shamed me for entertaining the advances of WM students like I could control who was attracted to me. When I pointed out that his GF was yt, he looked me dead in the eye and said he was a BM taking his power back from WM by being with WW whereas BW being with WM was b3dw3nching and fuelling yt supr3macy. I was speechless.

[@BlairWaldorf2013]

The reason why they did that whyte guy the way they did is because this is one of the RARE times they could. In almost all cases the Whyte Man is the Alpha so BM can’t do anything but accept it, in this case the two BM had a rare advantage by the white man implicitly understanding he can’t show his position of inherit power so as to not turn this into WM being disrespectful to the BC show. In *ANY* other circumstance where the WM is generally in his position of power this wouldn’t have happened. And at the end of the day the stats bare out as the WW/BM aren’t together anymore but the BW/WM are. That’s also why the BM have so much hatred towards us dating out (but not when they do it) because they know when we do it is rooted in respect/love and BW are loyal to a fault so if that loyalty is being given to non-black men (and in mass like we are now) then the inevitable conclusion is that BM will be left with no one and nothing to fall back on once their relationships with non-black women eventually end. It’s all rooted in using BW, and we are finally getting to a point where we want better for ourselves and see that centuries of putting everyone else 1st hasn’t and won’t get us anywhere…BW choose the best man!

[@melinatedvessel6840]

Lauren relationship /STILL GOING STRONG. PJs relationships,OVER.... YOU SHOULD SEE EXACTLY WHY THAT IS..IT'S BLATANT...

[@AlliterativeAtheist]

I’d like us to do away with the king and queen appellations . Not only is it unnecessary , it’s elitist , and untrue. Most have not traced their ancestry back to being descendants of kings and queens , and if so why the need to attach yourself to that? Why not the farmers, the fishermen , the doctors, the witch healer,

[@tiphMsSophia]

It’s the tears for me. Whew they are exhausting 😩 leave us alone!!!! Please😮‍💨

[@ZariDV]

Themis, the host didn't just ignore the wm saying she kept relationships with racist friends and family and her husband saying he loves that so the host could talk about black folks not accepting interracial relationships. The host actually ignored those two huge revelations from the ww/bm couple to then specifically degrade bw who date wm and specifically the bw in the interview who was supposedly his friend. The host legit ignored all of that content where a black man said he loved the racism he faced from his white gf/wife's family and friends without degrading his blackness or manhood. Yet he immediately turned the focus on a black woman and said she was less of a black woman for picking a white man and how bm would ignore her intellect and accomplishments because they may think she shouldn't speak. The host clearly doesn't respect black women while respecting wm, other bm and ww. Disgusting.

[@ThemisThoth]

I found his ignoring the BM WW relationship revelations repulsive. He wanted a narrative.

[@ZariDV]

@@ThemisThoth I was over it. Your steupes was my entire mood. I wish you really did get to interview them because I bet we'd get even more revelations if the host dug deeper into the foolery.

[@jamilafever8110]

I remember watching this episode and never watching that channel again. I was extremely disappointed in the host. I felt like he was seeking answers so that he could smoothly transition into dating white women himself. He didn't dig into any of the psychology of that pairing (BM/WW) and it's never seen as traitorous when those two date but only when BW date WM!! Typical and I checked smooth out.

[@LedePat]

He already stated he dated them

[@TheSReaction]

Especially after he and Yvonne Orji ending their relationship.

[@Tristan11406]

@@TheSReaction WOAH they dated😳 🤯 ?

[@TheSReaction]

@@Tristan11406 yep!!! For a nice little minute, vacations and all. Everyone thought an engagement was coming to was happening but then you stopped seeing her post about him. Very suddenly.

[@pennrai976]

At 25:49 when Themis said, "You can keep him"....I fell all the way out! Looking forward to the live this Friday (teeheehee)

[@ajm935]

"The strongest & the blackest of men, you can keep him." 🤣🤣🤣🤣💀

[@deborahfrederick916]

Except she didn’t keep him. Which is a source of complete hilarity tome after all the BS she spouted on this video.

[@z.z4596]

!!!

[@rffrostbite9989]

@@deborahfrederick916 Just go to show the Karen’s and Becky’s of the world 🌎 lose value once they date BM in White ppl world ..

[@briantbmoth6472]

Who dey fighting?!😂

[@ThemisThoth]

Themselves 😩😭

[@hymnodyhands]

@@ThemisThoth Exactly right.

[@Sherrell_S]

I subscribed 1 sec after you called that white lady Rebecca. Not Becky, but the whole proper name. Chile, I get your sense of humor. It's subtle & shady at the same time.😏

[@preshizpink4340]

I truly enjoy you feel like I'm having a drink with a close friend❤

[@ThemisThoth]

Thank you 🙏🏾

[@z.z4596]

!!!

[@Thula_Impala96]

She can go “super market sweep’ on ALL the strong bm she wants. Couldn’t be me sitting there looking like boo boo the fool

[@AMYP6]

That video was so cringe. Thank you Themis for stomaching it.

[@jg3865]

Of course Rachael & Brian are still together, however the other couple is not.....

[@mystea840]

The question wasn’t even for her!! 😂😂😂

[@Sony-u8p]

She wanted to jump in and answer a question (which by the way, not directed at her) just to 1) scapegoat bw, 2) draw attention to herself, and 3) to look like a victim like Themis eloquently pointed out. All she (along with the host and his poor questioning skills) accomplished in doing is pointing out that her (the ww's) family and friends did not accept him.

[@herscepter5263]

Rachel should've said, "It goes both ways." How can bm accept a bw with a wm in a relationship? They always want to make the wm the victim? But anyway, they are not together anymore, but Rachel and her husband are still going strong.😁

[@anywhoo]

49:12 BM do not require anything from the WW but BW definitely requires more from whomever she’s in relationship with ... whether she is in relationship with a black or white man.

[@hymnodyhands]

One is content to be a plaything. The other wants what Mother Harriet wanted for her, no matter where she landed (and Mother Harriet upgraded from a broken husband okay with her being in slavery to a United States Colored Troops veteran as a second husband!)

[@t.t.y2dat960]

Lol, my grandfather was bussed to an entirely different county to be able to go to school and he remember living through the Jim Crow south like having to go to the colored section of hospital to be seen and he experienced a multitude of other forms of racist behaviors growing up... and he's in his 70's today.... It was not that long ago.

[@catflon2388]

I was as confused as you look @Themis when I saw this last year. Coincidentally as the situation with the BM Bachelor was unraveling with the Georgia woman with the racist bullying background. I was on the floor. What in the self-fulfilling prophecy is going on here????🤣🤣🤣

[@cyn7993]

They are divorced now so problem solved

[@blackwidowrowe6271]

Omg 😂 I didn’t even know that. I knew that was gonna happen.

[@Xara_K1]

Themis you KNOW you're wrong for this title and the picture 💀💀💀

[@ThemisThoth]

I really am 😂

[@Doone226]

I don't understand the premise of this "interview". It seems like the interviewer/host/moderator, has problems (issues) with Black women not accepting HIS interracial relationship and he's trying to project that onto these women. Particularly the Black woman.

[@aarondavis2258]

Find love where you can find.....with that being said. We DON"T CARE about your interracial relationship. Stop bringing it to the table as a topic of discussion, as well as telling us "Black women never found me attractive." The Interracials are not OK & we'll say a quick prayer for them. Oh & Themis you wrong for that title lmao!

[@Daug555]

My goodness can 2022 be the year the BC stop with the “king” and “queen” titles?! The COMMUNITY as a collective does NOT exemplify king/queen behaviour..show me a castle in the hood🤦🏾‍♀️! Makes my ears bleed when I hear these delusional words. Stop it.

[@just_dev1981]

Yes!!! Thank you! These terms do not AT ALL apply to the BC.

[@callmecanolli322]

First time watching. This man with the white shirt is dropping science, and I appreciate his work.

[@LuxuriousBlu]

Com’on Themis, with this crystal clear camera quality!

[@monas]

That ww and bm broke up not too long after this interview...😐

[@rockieleftwing]

Themis 😂😂😂 I already see you giggling with this title!

[@ThemisThoth]

😂

[@theresamyers5327]

Big up you self Themis keep up the good work

[@ThemisThoth]

Thank you 🙏🏾

[@Kelema86]

It is comical how the moderator keeps harping on black people not accepting other black people in interracial even though according to the black male/white woman couple it’s literally just white people who are the ones having a problem with them together. This was such a bad conversation. The black male moderator has no interest in actually exploring the real issues of interracial dating or the rampant hypocrisy in the black community where everyone is harsher on black women for dating out even tho black males do it at a much higher rate. He also doesn’t care about holding the white woman’s feet to the fire for admittedly keeping racist friends around. He also spent way too much time centering the white woman in this whole crazy conversation. It felt like the discussion was just an entire support group for Becky and her feeling bad about dating a black man. It was boring.

[@rbee4821]

It was all about making yt people comfortable smdh

[@CLAUDINEtbmoth]

The damn title 😂😭🤣😭

[@ThemisThoth]

Petty😭

[@aliciastalksessions]

I watched this a while ago ..It was so very very painful to watch ..You deserve all the likes in the world for commentating on this. It must have been like nails on a blackboard ..😬

[@imo.124]

The title is hilarious lol

[@ThemisThoth]

😂

[@judahscattered4corners757]

As a Blackman I've had the best experience being alone. American culture is too toxic for me.

[@bubullibooooo9928]

If it makes you happy to be alone...🤗

[@Bullet-Magnet]

Im happy for you

[@ramonajohnson757]

Black women really do not have a problem with black men and white women being together socially. However I have an issue with much-needed resources going out of our community through these unions. I have yet to see a white woman or white man bring resources into the black community!

[@TheeBratzDollxox]

Wow Themis with the hair white turtleneck and glowing skin is giving Fashion Week VIP 😄😍🥂✨✨ stay giving the girlies LOOKS honey! 🥳 I don’t even care abt this interview I’m watching just Bc LOL ❤️

[@candycrusher2024]

LIndsay divorced the black man and now has a Colombian man like Rachel. That is all

[@Firecracker876]

She chose better 😆🤣

[@blackwidowrowe6271]

One more thing, When he said at 34:00 that WW were princesses and that Black people think BM dating WW were dating the Slave Master’s daughter,I knew he was deranged. That’s mostly super woke people. Other than that,nobody cares. This is what BM are thinking because they think WM are kings and BM perform masculinity all the time.THEMIS your reactions are hilarious AF. I was cracking up the WHOLE TIME. They are brain dead 💀 like…to even admit that is SOOO EMBARRASSING 🤣

[@bubullibooooo9928]

What does woke mean? 🥴

[@brittw9781]

This video makes it very apparent to me why Yvonne Orji didn’t go the distance with this guy.

[@unanuevapecula]

That's who he is?? ok very apparent

[@TheSReaction]

This!!! Yvonne don’t even TALK about him and it makes sense now.

[@aviolin77]

So all those Disney movies reinforced the “princess prize” mentality for blk men ….?

[@user-pk4sj8fs4x]

Lindsey and PK ended their engagement 6-9 months ago.

[@britbree04]

And she got with a white man after him

[@Drando1989]

@@britbree04 AND THERE IT IS. Chile 🙄🤣

[@beyankasimmons1336]

Look at the body language of the two couples. For majority of the video, the BM WW couple are holding hands (very awkwardly might I add) whereas the WM BW couple appear more relaxed during the interview. Notice the WW’s hands when she’s talking about how she hasn’t lost friends but implies that they’re still a part of her circle. Is it me or does it seem like the BM WW couple has something to prove or hide? I’m no body language expert tho. Just a theory 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@quintillajohnson4759]

The host did a horrible job with his line of questioning! DAMN! Really?! Why the hell are BW always being asked to explain “jealousy” ? I don’t understand why some BM think all BW are jealous of who they date/marry outside of BW instead of fear what could possibly happen to him based on the past and PRESENT. Who usually march for them? The WW literally sat there and said his family accepts her but, her family and friends only see his color. I’m so f*cking annoyed by these two BM…NO! Just NO! I judge people in general as individuals…I’m so glad not all BM think this way! That BM with that WW are a confused pair I hope they don’t procreate until they get a clue.

[@blackwidowrowe6271]

I subscribed from CallMeCocoa channel. Your facial expressions cracks me up! 🤣 I’ve been binge watching your videos. First of all,they should have had that conversation of acceptance before marriage. White People know the double standard they have in their community,she could have had that conversation with her parents. LOL 😂 Like…now they are divorced NOW. Also,the moderator saying he felt some type of way that a BW chose a WM but didn’t have that same energy for the WW/BM shows his bias. She (The WW) answered the question ,even though he was asking the BM, because she was deeply effected the MOST. We all know the BM’s friends loved it and thought that was a WIN. Let’s be real 🍵🐸 That BM looked very pathetic accepting the fact that His wife is still working through dealing rejecting him. Like….they accepted that as if it was normal. That’s EXACTLY why their divorce rate is so darn high. WW are not built for that sh*t. The host is trash and btw he’s Nigerian. 😂😂😂😂 He use to date Yvonne from Insecure. Lastly,she’s not taking a strong BM away from no BW. She didn’t take anyone. That BM is weak and she can stay with him 😂PK is willing to settle to join a racist family yet that’s a strong BM!? WW/BM couples want attention so bad. This interview was so bad and trash 😂 It made BM look desperate and pathetic. Most BW would not accept being in PK’s place at ALL. Also,a BW would have had more judgement. WM tend to cut their family off for the BW anyway,but that’s a different story. PK and his wife are not gonna stay married for long.

[@aloveaffairwithself]

They never got married. They were engaged. It’s the black woman and white man that were the married couple.

[@sf2892]

34:15-34:50…says a lot about black men’s thought process about how they feel about themselves, white men, white women and dating out. That’s sad.

[@hymnodyhands]

TRAGIC. A pathology crippling them and the whole community...

[@true4585]

I left hat comment on their video when I first saw it. That stuck out to me too.

[@FluffymeF]

YEAH THEY REALLY DIVORCE AFTER THIS 😔😭😭😭🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 THEY JUST NEED TO LEAVE US OUT OF THEIR BUSINESS. AND FURTHER MORE MY JOB IS NOT TO MAKE A GROWN WOMAN THAT I DON'T KNOW COMFORTABLE JUST CUZ SHE MARRIED OR DATING BLACK WTF LOL LOL

[@browneyesblackdragon7999]

I love your new look 🤩👌 it goes well with that shade you're giving 🤣🤣🤣

[@ZeeTheGreat333]

The first 60 seconds always snatches me in 🥰

[@deborahfrederick916]

Me Too!

[@z.z4596]

!!!

[@---re9jc]

Love your show. Ethical, knowledgable, witty, funny, fun and enjoyable. Great analysis. 🥰🥰🥰 Who is that host? He has such horrid mindset.

[@deborahfrederick916]

Themis, you had me hollering’ from the introduction on. I saw this video when it first came out, and I wondered why I felt like throwing my laptop across the room. Now that I have watched your reaction every initial thought I had makes sense. And YES, the host was Complete TRASH.

[@Cherryblos9]

Not Rachel's responsibility. Also, Lindsay is not with PK anymore, so there's that...

[@Willa4420]

You also see how ridiculous that question was. I just subscribed.

[@yogosapphirey]

Welcome! Thanks for subscribing 👍🏾