Intersex isn't always beautiful...

[@milkteanomnom]

My second cousin was intersex, but no one knew in my family (i.e. My mum didn't know, and neither did I, but my grandmother knew since "he" was a child). "His" name was Keiji, and he was born in 60s, and when he was born he had both genitalia. Doctors asked his parents (My great aunt and uncle) which gender they wanted this child to be, and they immediately said they wanted a boy. So, Keiji underwent several surgeries all the way up until he was 13, or so to have his vaginal canal sewn up, ovaries removed, womb removed, and eventually breasts removed. Now my mum being his first cousin never knew, and neither did any of my mums siblings. My grandmother told us about him literally like 3-4 years ago, and it was a shock to my mum. So, my mum grew up with him, and saw that he had some emotional issues, and also turned to drugs when he was a teenager. My mum thought he was a typical drug addict. Several years later, when he was in his 30s, his family found him dead in a tree from what looked like a drug overdose, but many of us in the family suspected that he purposely overdosed aka committed suicide, but we didn't know why. We just thought he was getting depressed with his life, so he ended it. Many many years after he passed, my grandmother told us the truth about him. Now it makes so much sense as to why he was so depressed in life, and never fit in. I personally wonder if he felt he was really supposed to be a girl, and struggled with his parents choosing his gender for him. Keiji knew he was intersex (they called him a hermaphrodite back then) growing up, and I think it caused him great strife, confusion, and sorrow. I think he was confused as to who he was, and had a hard time identifying with the gender his parents chose for him, or forced on him. Once I heard his story, I started to understand what it must be like to be born intersex, and not have much choice in the gender chosen for you. I never knew anything about intersex people before, but once I heard Keiji's story, I did a lot of research on intersex individuals, and I have come to realize it's much more complex than people think. If I ever had an intersex child, I wouldn't have any surgeries performed, and once they are grown up, if they want to choose a gender, then that's their choice, as I'd never want to make the wrong choice for my child. I hope more people can be educated on intersex children/people, and realize that it's something they can't control, and it's something that's ultimately their choice if they want to choose a gender, or maybe not change anything at all. Either way, I think it's up to the person, and if they choose not to change anything, and live with both genders, we as a society need to learn to accept all people, and love everyone with the same level of respect, and compassion.

[@darkanser]

I suspect he was born with intermediate genitalia -- somewhere between male and female genitals. Imagine!! It was challenging enough to come out as gay back in the 60s and earlier. There was even MORE ignorance surrounding being intersex. I could only imagine what your second cousin must have experienced.

[@deehowe4141]

Maelui Yumiko thank you for sharing this beautiful and heartbreaking ( yes, both) story.

[@anemone6260]

none can have "both" genitalia, that's misinformation.

[@aricm5973]

Wow... I feel sorry for the people who loved your cousin. X

[@milkteanomnom]

Anemone Tell that to the millions of parents that have babies born with both genitalia. Either you’re a troll, or you’re ignorant. Get educated.

[@metalsomemother3021]

Dear Pidgeon, for 36 years I have worked in women's health care. Thank you for documenting your story. My heart ached when you spoke about your forced surgeries. Thank you for speaking out and being so brave and educating us.

[@nairam0410]

This is such a great way to bring the intersex community together😊

[@pidgepagonis]

Thank you (Are you really a unicorn?)

[@zelandonia]

I love this person!!! They are truly amazing!!!

[@margotbecker6131]

You're so gracious and straight forward, Pigeon. Beautiful.

[@Meowykitchen]

It's great to hear you found a community to connect and belong with. Keep up the good work and keep on with the running !

[@boybriar]

This might seem weird but YOUR VOICE IS SO SOOTHING AND NICE TO LISTEN TO.

[@TatianaDiaz2195]

Just subscribed and watch all your videos. I definitely look up to you for making these videos and being so open and not only educating people but also making other intersex people know that they are not alone and giving them confidence and reassurance. I'm am very intrigued and would love to know more. Have so many questions but wouldn't want to get too personal so whatever you decide to share just know you have a subscriber on your team. Keep doing you. Mad respect

[@oh_kale_yeah1199]

I just found your channel and I'm in awe at your presence and strong sense of self. Thank you for sharing your story and exposing me to a new perspective of Life! You are such a beautiful being, much love and respect to you! Thank you! 🤗✌💚

[@TofuDriver11]

Hi Pigeon, you are such a beautiful soul and you are the light that shines in this dark world. Thank you for being you and for doing what you’re doing. Let your light shine bright!! Love you Pigeon 🙋‍♀️✨

[@panicat21dicosfor5secondso7]

Why are you so attractive?

[@jessw.6250]

Panic! At 21 Dicos For 5 Seconds of our Summer damn..... right But this person is saying some stuff important & I'm on cloud nine 😓

[@alex34533]

Ikrrr?!

[@darkanser]

Pidgeon is just adorable!!!!

[@CaseyQueens]

You are a BEAUTIFUL person and intelligent as hell! My goodness... Keep doing what you do!

[@myriamn.2639]

Your eyes and your soul are beautiful, you are so strong. I hope life brings you happiness and success

[@davidmicheletti6292]

You are doing a great job of getting the message out there. Intersex isn’t always pretty but we will learn to deal with it if people take the time to learn and accept us at face value.

[@peterc2448]

That's a great thing to do. Us bisexuals thought we were the unmentionable of the LGBT community. However, as much as bisexuals are told we aren't real, you intersex people are called damaged way too much and it needs to stop very soon. I want to help you guys be with other intersex people.

[@mayganphynix8267]

Pantelis Keravnikes most definitely! I'm bi too :)

[@mayganphynix8267]

Pantelis Keravnikes these kind of videos remind me to make it LGBTQI. it covers everybody :)

[@bornwithoutconsentobviously]

You never heard of non binary people? Or ace folks?

[@CherryGryffon]

As a pansexual, I relate.

[@meowforcats6694]

Pantelis Keravnikes bi is more real than others, but limited to just the binary

[@russellhancock9765]

It is so sad that society wants to change a person before they are given a chance to be who they are. I hope things will change in the future.

[@NotABushFan1]

Thanks for being so open - hope you did great

[@Veronika-Zahradnickova]

Good luck with the marathon and the whole project!!*

[@kenni_blvck]

My friend’s daughter just had testes removed and I mentioned AIS to her. I was familiar with it prior to seeing your channel and she became extremely upset. I explained there is no other explanation I know for internal testes on a girl. Do you think she is in denial?

[@TheEllenMellon]

Kendra Blackwell Is she as educated on intersex people as you? I would encourage her to learn and educate herself more before subjecting her daughter to more possibly unnecessary surgeries.

[@kenni_blvck]

TheEllenMellon she is a LVN so she should comprehend, they told her after the surgery that they weren’t male testes after all. The word choice I feel is really suggestive of what pidgeon has described. I think they said that to make her feel better about the surgery, if they weren’t male testes then what were they?

[@TheEllenMellon]

Right. It sounds like they are trying to sugar coat (unnecessary) to "normalize" and "feminize." I am not positive, but I would hope your friend researches on her own and questions the doctors more in the future! She is going to be her daughter's number one advocate.... so the more she speaks up for her the better.

[@kenni_blvck]

TheEllenMellon I so agree! I don’t want to push the issue any further because people get very sensitive about their kids, but I want her to understand what happens.

[@alzbetaressnerova7930]

they are usually taking out the testes because they are causing cancer often (since they are "locked" in the body where they should not be) so it might not be about feminising anything. people with internal testes look like women and usually, they don't even know that they are genetically male until they want to have kids. Not every intersex is the same. there are different causes for this condition.

[@westfall35]

Hi Pidgeon, thanks to one of Ash's video, I just started watching yours. It seems you and I have a friend in common. I've known Lynnel a few years now. I have had the privilege to meet and get to know several intersex individuals now. Each of them are uniquely beautiful souls. I personally identify as Transgender so I can't specifically understand everything you have been through but I do empathize with you. I hope one day we can stop the barbaric practice of the many surgeries intersex individuals are subjected to. No one should have their genitals mutilated, unless you are an adult and consented to it to a medical professional for your own reasons.

[@tamarindotibio7652]

I just finished and sent the sub translation of this video to the KZbin community for revision. Sorry I didn't do it sooner! My internet signal was fairly crapy and it wouldn't load ;__; Best of luck in the marathon!! Fly high dear, and thanks for being visible. See ya on the update :')

[@pidgepagonis]

Tamarindo Tibio muchas gracias amor!

[@tamarindotibio7652]

Aaaaaa I'm blushing like a dork (>

[@TheEllenMellon]

I am so glad i found you!

[@paigemason7555]

I thoroughly enjoy you as a human being. ❤️

[@andiehernandez1995]

Good luck in the marathon. I wanted to know which words you like to be used by other people to refer to your aesthetic beauty? I know you're not cis and I don't want to make you uncomfortable and dysphoric. I love you Pidgeon

[@pidgepagonis]

Thank you... I have never been asked this before but I think anything works :)

[@kamrynbur5713]

Omg I love your voice sm!!!

[@prihaps]

I love you and everything you represent Pidgeon!

[@hiimgemini]

I love you, saludos desde Latinoamérica *-*

[@honeybunn_deluxxe]

I think we've all met another intersex person before; some just got lucky, and are able to aestheticly assimilate better than others. Being yourself, in a world that will stigmatize & label you is hard; respect. 🙏🏽💕 Thank you for being a ✨️mouthpiece, for those who are silenced.🥲❤️

[@vanessajordaanais6802]

Love you pidgeon. Xoxy

[@pidgepagonis]

Vanessa Jordaan awe thank you!!

[@vanessajordaanais6802]

If you have the time please add me on Facebook aswell. Vanessa Leigh Jordaan Ais. Wish I could meet you some day. Xoxy

[@Mal-0-vent]

pigeon, I dont know if you will see this but your blog has been such a rollercoaster. but in the other hand you shine. I know its not been perfect all the time. But you are a beautiful unique person. if more people stop worrying are u this or that and just care for whom you are inside. is more important in life than its self. I wish others would if let nature take its course and let the teen decide do you want to stay the same or do you feel to change. it shouldnt be up to anyone other that person.

[@ashleyambrose1216]

I'm so curious, could you tell us if you have a g spot?

[@gailfrank8422]

Your energy is amazing. ...labels suck

[@monicahow]

I would love to know more about intersexed community. It sounds like there is a complex set of circumstances going on with intersexed persons. You look very androgenous. I think there should be a section on our forms and official documents to include this as a third sex; male, female, intersexed. We need to recognize our diversity and celebrate it and it woulld be so much better for those who want no surgery. I was watching a youtube video about a intersexed guy who had his on kid. He seemed to have donated sperm and ova. Mind blowing.

[@tereana777]

wow. you are GORGEOUS

[@michaelhouse678]

How do you identify your gender as an intersex person?

[@EduVacation369]

Michael House exactly! That's why it bothers me when people care what gender you are. Like why do you care what's under my clothes?

[@michaelhouse678]

Kevin Bohannon I dont care what's in your pants.. I want to know what pronouns should I use because I don't like misgendering people..

[@andybee1381]

It’s different for all intersex people, but I believe Pigeon considers themselves non-binary, or neither male nor female.

[@M-CH_]

@@andybee1381 That would make them a cis-NB. Rare.

[@thefilipinojoe]

You have a stunning male/female look like Frida Khalo. Absolutely beautiful.

[@GrowingGoodHair]

Agree!✨

[@EllieMcHale1]

You are lovely and amazing.

[@jerrybaba2]

Pidgeon, you are so beautiful. You are a handsome young man and with a glam squad you'd be a gorgeous young woman. I like you bare faced where both take turns in your expressiveness. You have become so wise. You understand that the doctors didn't know better, and that your parents did what they thought to be best. But, you allow us to see the damage that can be done by not waiting and allowing the child to ask for what they need, which in a better world would be no change at all. But, this world was even worse just a few years ago. You are the pioneer who is allowing us to see for the first time, what this issue involves and how best to go forward. I am writing a book about how we have been duped into beliefs that prevent us from progressing as a species. The binary thing is one of them. God is both male and female, there can't be a father or a son without a mother. We are each both as biology will attest. Limiting ourselves to one or the other limits our potential as a human being and a spirit being. You are a living angel, the personification of both genders in one. The very definition of a spirit being. Your videos should be shown and discussed in classrooms.

[@jdaragon]

Nahongvitah! Run Strong!

[@EduVacation369]

You're so brave!

[@jessw.6250]

OMG SHOOOOOK! Grab my heart omg did you say YOU live in Chicago???!!!!!!!!! *Do you still live in Chicago???????*

[@kelseywagner803]

I am literally so attracted to you! Don't take this the wrong way but you are like the best of both worlds! Beautifully mixed between male and female...😍

[@fabianlopez5345]

💕💕💕 you’re beautiful babe

[@Odjeto]

Good luck good luck good luck

[@stormgirl09]

i thought you looked oddly familiar!! wasnt the turkey pretty tasty? :D

[@pidgepagonis]

???

[@erikav1038]

Hi pidgeon, I'm curious and not trying to be disrespectful but I was wondering are you able to have children? And also were you originally born with the name of Paloma? I am Mexican and pigeon would be Paloma in Spanish so I was just wondering lol. I didn't know anything about intersex so it's cool that watching your videos I learned something new!

[@iimmannii]

Carina Moreno I think they said in another video that they didn't have ovaries. Maybe with an embryo implant though

[@MommyOfZoeAndLiam]

As far as I am aware people with AIS do not have reproductive organs (no uterus, Fallopian tubes, or ovaries).

[@jgr_lilli_]

Carina Moreno I believe that Pidgeons original given name is "Jen". They were called that in a documentary I've seen.

[@GummyBearRecords]

if your insensitive to androgens why do you have facial hair? not trying to be rude it's an honest question

[@ericashouldeen7965]

GummyBearRecords she has partial insensitivity not complete

[@andybee1381]

Latinos are also very skilled at growing mustaches in general

[@prihaps]

Miss Adjusted lmao we sure are👨🏻🤣

[@salamandah69]

GummyBearRecords The other commenters are right. Us Latinos grow a lot of hair...arm hair, leg hair, etc.

[@maureenmargaret8262]

Beautiful human

[@MRWHO-gt8zo]

If everything is beautiful. What meant to be ugly

[@cupcakexlindsay]

You are beautiful ❤️

[@amberwheaton2252]

I am not Intersex, but I just wanted to comend you for what you are doning for you and those like you. Until recently I didn't really know there were people like you in the world. Just know that God doesn't make mistakes and that you are all loved.

[@pidgepagonis]

I think god did make some mistakes... and those would be the surgeons who do this stuff to intersex kids.

[@--5783]

O, no, we are exotic beautiful, girsl-boys!

[@ElleXY]

Tax write-off. Haha. I really want to be there for the conference in Chi next year!!

[@pidgepagonis]

Lavelle come!!

[@ElleXY]

It's on my agenda. I've been thinking about it for the past 2 years and never made it happen. I'm coming!

[@winb4200]

Subtítulos en español por favor

[@scottbennett777]

...it is in your case.😀

[@Slimshady3minem]

Intersex IS always beautiful

[@quasi8180]

Isolation oh man i know that one

[@oniciamuller]

Awesome

[@andygonzalez3939]

You've always been beautiful to me though.

[@proplay5394]

Hi

[@jasonjanke7638]

I think you are lovely

[@Samuel115s]

Wow. You look equally as male as you do female. What pronouns do you prefer?

[@atomictea21]

Samuel115s They pronouns

[@antoniobulilis9828]

I found i was interesexed six yrs ago

[@hunterwilliams4361]

What pronouns do you personally prefer?

[@landosampson9928]

Hunter Williams Same... I've been wanting to comment but I wanna be respectful

[@gabgisellerv]

In a video (I guess that it's in the intersex girlfriend) where Pidgeon says it's them or they

[@anirbanbhattacharya3392]

Gabriela Rodriguez Nope a male intersexed person would be represented as he and female intersexed with she. Here it would be she as she's clearly a girl maybe in mind she thinks herself as genderless but its her personal choice as many intersexed persons think about themselves as either male or female. Plus an intersexed person could lead a life of a male or female with the help of medications and surgery.

[@t.w.d.g.2730]

Anirban they clearly said they use the pronouns they and their. You dont get to assume for others

[@thechickks]

can you have kids?

[@lovelife-dt4tq]

is he a boy