Interstate 85 South

[@drivingbritt9617]

10:59 I don't know why, but this part makes me break out in gut-busting laughter, just the way you express your hatred for Sweet Home Alabama, along with the look of disgust you have on your face saying this. 😂😂😂

[@MrQuinnzard]

It's Thanksgiving, which is obviously shorthand for "Thanks for giving us this video, Todd." So thank you. I thoroughly enjoyed the video.

[@ControlCityFreak]

Happy Thanksgiving!

[@dhinton1]

agreed, Quinn ..... thanks, CCF 😎

[@ethanconken9471]

@@ControlCityFreak 3:47 Dude, they throw Martinsville in there because of 73. 73 will go there eventually. That's why.

[@ethanconken9471]

@@ControlCityFreak 5:51 Also, Statesville is a pretty big city, with 29,000 people living there as of 2022. So yes Statesville SHOULD be on there.

[@williamnicks2148]

Martinsville is where I 73 ultimately ends up after it dead-ends into 220 (never go to the visitor center there by the way). Winston-Salem is on there for 421. And most people who go downtown off 85 in Charlotte get off on NC 49/US29 or Graham Street, which is before the 77 interchange, so most downtown traffic has already exited.

[@j.f.e.productions4098]

6:15 Gaffney?! Why North Carolina? Great video. Glad to see my Lyman getting the praise it deserves as the best Lyman.

[@Jliske2]

Your growth as a KZbin creator has been astounding to see! This niche of content is just the thing I subscribed for!

[@ianb9851]

Right?? Every video is like a mini road trip with commentary and they're so well made!

[@ControlCityFreak]

Thanks!

[@sunny1992s]

Martinsville is signed because of the Nascar race track there that can seat upto 60,000; and has been on the Nascar setlist since its inception in 48.

[@onhiatus526]

I-85 is a sister route to I-30, because they both end at 2 different X0 or X5 interstates.

[@angelmalarkey7946]

O yeah, 30 runs between 20 and 40, and 85 runs between 65 and 95.

[@ianb9851]

The whole Spartanburg/Columbia debacle near Charlotte is actually pretty funny. The one time North Carolina is allowed to be provincial they don't do it!

[@mxderateprod]

lol

[@steve-4045]

In the original plan, I-77 was supposed to end at I-85 north of Charlotte. Wisely, they extended it to I-26 east of Columbia. The mistake was to route it near downtown Charlotte. So you get through traffic (including Canadians going to SC beaches), commuter traffic, and even local traffic near Lake Norman, all clogging up the lanes and getting in each other’s way. Adding toll lanes north of Charlotte has eased congestion, and at least giving you the option not to be in the middle of it. Plans are to add toll lanes south of downtown.

[@ColinTheMC]

I went on a road trip from Southern PA to Pensacola two years ago. Drove the entire length of 85 S in the process. Got to Atlanta just as the sun was rising. Such a cool drive at that time of day.

[@ControlCityFreak]

Nice!

[@LeviRamsey]

The Rocky Mount / Miami and Durham / Atlanta signage dates from the Richmond-Petersburg Parkway, when I-95 was solely intended as the fast way through for long-distance travelers who were paying a toll. With the tolls off and more local exits, the scope for far-off control cities decreases.

[@dhinton1]

That signage was the best, tho.

[@highway2heaven91]

@@dhinton1 It was, much easier for long distance travelers to know where their destination is.

[@tylermarchand2996]

@highway2heaven91 To me, it isn’t that great of an idea. Richmond to Miami is way too far of a drive to make in one day. Add in that truckers are forbidden by law to drive more than 14 hours in one sitting, the furthest they could realistically get from Richmond is Palm Bay (the Space Coast).

[@davidtosh7200]

They have mentioned to extend I-85 from I-65 in Downtown Montgomery to I-20 & I-59 in Cuba Alabama which is about 3 miles east of Alabama/Mississippi state line. Alabama, along with Georgia does scrapped I-14, which is unlike Texas, Louisiana, and Mississippi does have I-14. There will be the auxiliary route of I-85, known as I-x85 as I-685 to bypass Montgomery.

[@deionjackson90]

That would make much more sense than having to go south on 65 then wrapping round to 80 and dealing with them towns and lights

[@angelmalarkey7946]

I’m glad you posted on thanksgiving, that was so lucky.

[@Jacob-pt5xz]

My memories of I-85 are that I would take it via I-95 From Delaware to Charlotte

[@neoskyline2879]

3:47 If it’s the same Martinsville I’m thinking of, they probably threw it on there because of the speedway. NASCAR races there twice every year. It’s a popular track that you would use North 73 to get to

[@planetbarrett6055]

I've been on 85 so many times, how have I never noticed Lyman! Great Video as always, can't wait for 89 and 90. Have a happy Thanksgiving Todd.

[@ControlCityFreak]

Happy Thanksgiving!

[@spellcast1391]

I-90 is going to be a great one in Illinois. It is one of IDOT’s best signed interstates. They don’t do much secondaries at the ramps.

[@dhinton1]

@@spellcast1391 bcuz 90 outside of Chicago is a tollway .... and the Illinois Tollway doesn't play around with control city signage.

[@calebharper1590]

You know with the I-185 to I-85 south LaGrange and Montgomery. I-185 north traffic could've gotten off at US-27 which goes north to I-85 and LaGrange.

[@deionjackson90]

Yep exit 42

[@cj_cotton_music]

I must say, that whole Limon/Lyman thing is just hilarious to me! I think that’s just perfect for this series! I think that’s one of the last Lymans left on the primary Interstate Highways that are signed from the road; The good thing is that the only one spelled like Limon is in Colorado so I’ve got no beef with that. 😂😂

[@TheBIGJake111]

I grew up in upstate sc and drive 85 all the time, never heard of Lyman lol… and to hear it’s larger than the one in Colorado is really alarming lol

[@eaglescout1984]

I've actually ridden every single mile of I-85, in one shot (including stopping at a motel). I went to VCU and we did a spring break trip to "Katrina land" (Mississippi Gulf Coast) to help with the ongoing clean up. So, we took 95 from Richmond, getting on 85 in Petersburg, stayed overnight in Atlanta, and took it to the interchange with 65. From there we took 65 to Mobile and 10 to Gulfport.

[@deionjackson90]

Actually downtown Atlanta is behind you already when you get to the 75 south Macon sign

[@bigj200016]

The only minor complaint I have with Atlanta signage is I wish they’d include the incoming interstate’s next control city on the bypass for traffic not wanting to (or that cannot legally) go through downtown Atlanta. So one of the directions of 285 should also have Montgomery on it as well

[@calebharper1590]

Hey the I-95 sign for Rocky Mount and Miami is actually still there or just past the I-85 junction. You can highlight it in the I-95 video.

[@brandonparker6716]

In defense of the Gaffney peach, SC typically ranks second to California in peach production...yes, even above Georgia!

[@scpatl4now]

I saw recently that due to the warming climate, Georgia is getting too warm to grow peaches. Peaches need a cold winter to form the buds for fruiting. They are starting to grow citrus instead in S. Georgia.

[@brandonparker6716]

@@scpatl4now interesting. I didn't know that!

[@bgrimsle]

Not only is this true, the single county of Spartanburg produces more peaches than the entire state of Georgia. At least this was true in the late 1970s when I lived there.

[@willp.8120]

​@@scpatl4nowThere's plenty of cold winter from Atlanta northward.

[@JeffreyReedy-tm2xw]

4:18 Todd: "Asheboro, yep the Zoo". 😂

[@LiteBulb88]

Happy Thanksgiving everyone! Special thanks to you, Todd, for bringing us fellow weirdos happiness through these videos. Long live Limon!

[@ControlCityFreak]

Happy Thanksgiving!

[@steve-4045]

I don’t know recent stats, but when the Peachoid was built, South Carolina grew many more peaches than Georgia. The county Gaffney is in grows much of that.

[@timj684]

I have made a few trips to the Charlotte area from Long Island and have taken 85 from 95 to 77. As someone who does the bulk of my driving in densely populated areas, it is amazing how open the road is, especially from 95 to just outside of the Durham area.

[@dcarlone2699]

That stretch you described is literally the giant, endless forest you’d see in a horror movie lol.

[@tylermarchand2996]

@timj684 I did a road trip last year that involved driving on I 95 from Richmond to Savannah, and that is at least triple the length of I 85 from the same point to Durham. None of the urban areas in either of the Carolinas (Rocky Mount, Fayetteville, Lumberton and Florence) provide any relief. I’ll admit that I where I live (Reno) has lots of surrounding rural areas, but at least here, the endless mountains provide some respite. Across two road trips I’ve done this year and last, outside of the Pacific side of the Continental Divide, I’d rather drive along I 10 between San Antonio and El Paso, in the mountains of New England and Pennsylvania, across Iowa (hillier than anything east of the 76/80 split in Nebraska), or even the Florida Panhandle (surprisingly hilly between Tallahassee and Crestview).

[@JohnSmith-uj6gx]

95 form Richmond to Jacksonville is bumblefuck.

[@Forxa1260]

Just saying, I 485 is all in Mecklenburg County, which is basically just Charlotte and a few suburbs, anyways outer Charlotte is suburban.

[@justinflickner4938]

4:00 I would imagine that that's because long distance traffic on I-73 north going to High Point would have followed I-74 when they split north of Asheboro. For local traffic though there should probably be a pull-through for US-220 NB TO I-85 south, since the next interchange on US-220 after splitting from I-73 is for BL 85.

[@psychedelicnarwhal9599]

Somebody please make a compilation video of all the limon/Lyman jokes they're hilarious. Unfortunately, due to lack of computing power, I cant.

[@stephenplatt5048]

Hi Todd! At 4:00 When you say the far right lane is mainline 73, I thought "that doesn't sound right", with that 85 exit tab on the pull through sign (122A) there. I've driven that stretch many times so I looked at it myself in case I missed or didn't remember something. That lane begins on 85 before the interchange with US 220/I-73 south.. I-73 northbound traffic does cloverleaf up to that "feeder" road for about a mile where one can either to continue on 73/US 421 north or cloverleaf down to a parallel road along 85 to Groometown Rd. So yeah, I guess you can say in an oddity, that feeder road could be construed as mainline I-73 . The oddness is that any traffic that was northbound 73 that wants to the go south on I-85 has to to drive on two consecutive cloverleaves to exit at Groometown then straight through the light there to continue south on 85. That being said, if that lane is supposed to be a "mainline" 73, why does the exit tab correlate to 85 signage instead of I-73 signage indicating the exit for Groometown as exit 96 or 97? In my view, the exit numbering would be a bit confusing.

[@MrShortWhiteGuy]

Great video. I-85 will be the longest highway for a while as we got I-86 (Idaho), I-86 (NY), I-87 (NY), I-87 (NC/VA), I-88 (IL), I-88 (NY), I-89 (VT/NH). I'll be mid-January when you get to I-90.

[@adammoldover8769]

Looks like it'll be early March before he gets to I-95, last week of March (barring no breaks) should be I-99!

[@mxderateprod]

86 Eastern also goes into Pennsylvania

[@newflyer2198]

Noooooooooo! Lyman strikes again! This time in South Carolina! It can't be escaped! AAAAAUGH!!!!!!

[@mxderateprod]

lol

[@ControlCityFreak]

Lol

[@Suralin0]

*We are all Lyman* *Resistance is futile*

[@ControlCityFreak]

@@Suralin0 lol

[@orgrichard]

Maybe they should replace the signage for Lyman with signage for an area of Spartanburg County located not far from it known as Sugar Tit. 😂

[@Goobnav]

@Control City Freak you need to update this, it I-885 and US 70 North of Durham now.

[@mocowan6642]

Live pd in Atlanta for almost 10 years. The concurrent section of 75/85 in Atlanta is known as The Connector. Traffic always gets congested on it at what is known as The Grady Curve. Good times.

[@PhilWorley]

They’re currently talking about extending I 85 to connect with I 20/59 at the Mississippi state line.

[@BabyBang17datruth]

I thought I-14 would replace US 80 along that route

[@DTD110865]

I used to think the control cities at I-95 that included Miami and I-85 that included Atlanta were interesting, but not necessary. Now I've changed my mind and I agree with you that they shouldn't have gotten rid of it.

[@tylermarchand2996]

@DTD110865 I think it’s too much. Richmond to Miami is way too much for anyone to accomplish in one sitting. The only people that would have to do such a haul are truckers, but by law, they couldn’t even if they wanted to…

[@DTD110865]

@@tylermarchand2996 They certainly are longer distances, but these are the roads you need to take to get to those cities, and that was why the signs mentioned them. I tend to drive longer hours than truckers are allowed to just for my own personal preference, but I know if I were to drive from Richmond to Miami, I'd still have to stay in a motel for one night.

[@BabyBang17datruth]

Yes I agree they shouldn’t have taken off Miami or Atlanta but they still do have Atlanta at one section of I-95 near exit 54.

[@SonicandHighwayDude401]

11:27 I’ve been on 85 North of Atlanta. I-85 in Northern NC and VA is a boring but scenic drive.

[@benjaminchandler7919]

Part of me thinks 81 would make more sense as the X5 interstate, but it would be hard to fit the grid if we did that

[@ControlCityFreak]

81/59 could be 85, then make current 85 28 or something

[@benjaminchandler7919]

@@ControlCityFreak I’m not opposed, but another idea is making 81 and 26 the new I-85, and current 85 the new 67. Before people freak out about it being out of grid. I checked and both 65 and 75 meet current 85 west of their junctions with 69 and 71. Also 83 is farther west than the section of 81 that is north of Harrisburg

[@Suralin0]

Great video Todd! Looking forward to the New England routes in particular! Also, you mentioned that this was the channel's last visit to Alabama... "until we get to other kinds of roads..." Interested to see what you've got in store :)

[@spellcast1391]

Massachusetts I think does an amazing job based on I-84.

[@mrmoore1972]

A little aside on U.S. 58...it is pretty much a Virginia-only Federal route, though it does run over 500 miles in the southern length of the state(giving respect to Virginia's girth border-wise), with just a mile in Tennessee at the Cumberland Gap. Lyman again?!

[@SonicandHighwayDude401]

You do know that US 58 is the longest highway in Virginia, right?

[@roadgeek1961]

Funny been on the same section of I 85. Florida to Finlay Ohio. Via Nashville, Louisville, at the time I 75 was being improved to 6 Lanes. We revisit Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia and say goodbye to Alabama. Signed pretty good for main carriageway. Not being signed in the Charlotte area.. Lot of cross-country and local Traffic. Have a great Thanksgiving Todd.. western I 86 Idaho next week.

[@ControlCityFreak]

Happy Thanksgiving!

[@tigerraven7552]

Lyman strikes again 😂😂 6:52

[@ControlCityFreak]

lol

[@samseddmedia]

6:29 I don't know if that is why North Carolina signs Gaffney instead of Greenville or Spartanburg at random interchanges.

[@drivingbritt9617]

Have a very Happy Thanksgiving Todd, and keep on trucking!

[@ControlCityFreak]

Happy Thanksgiving!

[@Tested333]

We're getting so close to I-95!!!!

[@tylermarchand2996]

@diamonduser9391 Don’t get too excited. There’s still I 90 and I 94 beforehand. Both are guaranteed to be two-parters.

[@mxderateprod]

@@tylermarchand2996 I agree.

[@samseddmedia]

Samm Said's "The Way It Should Be" for Southbound I-85 (the whole thing): Durham/Greensboro (skip over South Hill, Henderson, and Oxford) Greensboro/Charlotte (skip over Burlington/I-40 West goes to Greensboro DOWNTOWN) Winston-Salem/Charlotte (I-73 North to I-40 West goes to Winston-Salem) High Point/Charlotte (US 29 South goes to High Point) Salisbury/Charlotte (US 52 split in Salisbury) Charlotte Charlotte/Columbia (I-77 South goes to Columbia) Asheville/Spartanburg (US 74 West goes to Asheville) Spartanburg/Atlanta (skip over Gastonia, Kings Mountain, and Gaffney) Lyman/Atlanta (Just for jokes) Greenville/Atlanta Atlanta Macon/Montgomery (I-75 South goes to Macon) Columbus/Montgomery (I-185 South goes to Columbus) Montgomery/New Orleans (I-65 South to I-10 West goes to New Orleans) Mobile/New Orleans (ending with I-65 South's "The Way It Should Be" control cities)

[@Boss-KingInc.]

Another great video. I enjoy all of your content. I always think your reaction about Limon/Lyman is hilarious

[@damienredd9068]

The best and great job of a few more years of course but it's just a good time for the next one of the week 😁

[@somethingrandom987]

You know what they say, every road leads to Limon eventually.

[@ControlCityFreak]

Lol

[@JEMtheEASGuy2024]

10:59 for me it’s the best state welcome sign my dad loves that sign

[@alexcerny5881]

A bit odd that this interstate goes at 45-degree angle compared to the other north-south interstates

[@btx5740]

I-95 from NY to I-85 from Petersburg,Va to Charlotte,NC

[@drivingbritt9617]

6:53 Limon, Lyman, and Lyman are all cousins! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@ControlCityFreak]

lol

[@dvferyance]

There is also a Lyman South Dakota. And it's right off of I-90 but for whatever reason the exit for it does not even mention it. Disappointing I was looking forward to another one of his Limon/Lyman rants there but we got one here instead.

[@drivingbritt9617]

@@dvferyance What an anomaly! lol

[@irh_real]

@@dvferyanceLYMAN

[@atine834]

Lyman!

[@ControlCityFreak]

Lol

[@FreeDarth]

I live in Lexington (right off 85 in NC) no mention of 285 that takes you to 40 and Winston 😞

[@iandf305]

1:14 There still remains another Rocky Mount NC Miami 95 pullthrough at Exit 50 at US 301

[@samseddmedia]

Instead of "Henderson/Durham" or "Oxford/Durham," I'd sign "Durham/Greensboro."

[@jordanjones5751]

Awesome, Happy Thanksgiving by the way

[@ControlCityFreak]

Happy Thanksgiving!

[@jordanjones5751]

@@ControlCityFreak thanks Todd

[@samseddmedia]

I feel like throwing High Point in there, because of the Piedmont Triad (Greensboro, Winston-salem, and High Point), Southbound only.

[@mxderateprod]

That's sensible, but I would do High Point/Charlotte.

[@samseddmedia]

@@mxderateprod That works. I agree with Charlotte being on the bottom line of I-85 Southbound from Greensboro. Just make sure to put High Point in as the secondary until US 29 splits off from it. (I don't care if Salisbury is signed, as long as Charlotte is the main control city, which sometimes it isn't.) However, at the interchange with US 29, US 70, and NC-150, they put Salisbury in as the control city because of North Carolina being "provincial." Control City Freak forgot about that. Also, Northbound I-85, beyond Salisbury, Greensboro is the primary control city. (Winston-Salem is co-signed with Greensboro when I-85 Northbound meets US 29 before it reaches Lexington NC. It's a shame Control City Freak lost the footage of that or... I don't know what footage Control City Freak lost when he did the Northbound I-85 video.)

[@mxderateprod]

@@samseddmedia Yeah I think High Point is big enough to be a co-primary with Charlotte. Salisbury is fine as long as Charlotte is on there.

[@samseddmedia]

@@mxderateprod I still feel like Charlotte by itself is good enough to guide drivers. They don't really need to add Salisbury onto the signs. Charlotte is good enough on its own.

[@mxderateprod]

@@samseddmedia Agreed.

[@jimcoddington4100]

Happy thanksgiving Todd! Have a good one buddy

[@ControlCityFreak]

Happy Thanksgiving!

[@jimcoddington4100]

@@ControlCityFreak I’m thankful for My Amazing Todd!🥰

[@samseddmedia]

From the Charlotte city limits, I-85 South is signed for GASTONIA!!! (Pull up meme here.) And at random interchanges past that, it is signed for KINGS MOUNTAIN!!! (if North Carolina isn't provincial enough with their control cities.) You skipped over that part of I-85. But I can justify Kings Mountain being a secondary control city because that's where I-85 South and US 74 West split, 74 West for Asheville, 85 South for Spartanburg/Greenville/Atlanta. US 74 is actually going in the Asheville direction, so they should put Asheville on the overhead sign.

[@wriddle082]

Thank you so much for mentioning Lyman! And Happy Thanksgiving!

[@ControlCityFreak]

Happy Thanksgiving!

[@samseddmedia]

I don't know why Martinsville should even be a control city on I-73 Northbound. I mean, I understand that I-73 stops short of the Virginia border, and Martinsville is the US 220 control city, but once I-73 is completed in Virginia, I'd just switch that to Roanoke.

[@andrewdevore4799]

Asheville NC has a Lyman Ave

[@RealHeyMark]

Since you're teasing the future after all the 2dis are used up, I do hope you'll do the Avenue of the Saints between St. Louis and St. Paul. Mostly because I want to hear you tee off on the Iowa DOT for some ... curious ... decisions.

[@ControlCityFreak]

I drove a chunk of it recently, will do in the future.

[@brianlatteri8207]

I do like the beginning of south 85 Atlanta and south 95 Miami its too bad thats gone its always good for control cities.Also i like how 85 crosses over in North Carolina its weird but i like it

[@ChampionAidan]

Happy Thanksgiving everyone

[@ControlCityFreak]

Happy Thanksgiving!

[@highway2heaven91]

My way it should be: Durham Greensboro Charlotte Atlanta Montgomery Spartanburg and Greenville work as primaries or secondaries within SC only. No need to use them outside of SC. Also, Boy Meets World sign again at 5:21

[@ControlCityFreak]

Solid

[@njv1234]

Charlotte’s innie/outtie thing drives me crazy

[@spellcast1391]

I’ve been on I-65 from Louisville to Gary Indiana and it’s signed well.

[@mxderateprod]

I-65 all around is signed very well.

[@spellcast1391]

@@mxderateprod love that monster sign that Todd showed in the vid. YOU CAN USE CHICAGO FOR I-65 North.

[@samseddmedia]

6:20 That's the second best NCDOT signage I've seen!

[@mxderateprod]

What a great way to start my Thanksgiving day!

[@ControlCityFreak]

Happy Thanksgiving!

[@spellcast1391]

Happy Thanksgiving Moderate Productions!

[@njv1234]

You should have 100k subscribers. For the record, I was #here when you were at 2k

[@mxderateprod]

I was here at around 300 or so

[@ControlCityFreak]

Thanks! Hopefully will get there

[@mxderateprod]

@@ControlCityFreak You will!

[@jayayebee]

3 things are certain in life: Death, taxes, and Lyman.

[@mxderateprod]

You got that right

[@ControlCityFreak]

Lol

[@anidnmeno]

7:25 let's take a moment to talk about how ✨nice✨ South Carolina's state highway signs are NC here, I'm jelly

[@j.f.e.productions4098]

They used to be just a white rectangle with black numbers and outline. On some older interstate signs, you can still see the old shield design.

[@VidClips858]

SC loses points for what they did to their tags, though.

[@j.f.e.productions4098]

@@VidClips858 I know. The sunset one is waaaaay better

[@orgrichard]

I live in SC. Not only is the signage poorly maintained, there is no lighting at many interstate interchanges.

[@j.f.e.productions4098]

@@orgrichard Most overhead signs on I 85 in the upstate are lit. Signs in rural areas aren't as well maintained as signs in urban areas

[@boomad11]

Happy thanksgiving Todd

[@ControlCityFreak]

Happy Thanksgiving!

[@mikeshumaker]

6:54 Lyman: Just learned there is a LYMAN in South Dakota off Interstate 90. Exit 241. Sign on freeway just says Exit 241, and nothing else. Only Lyman sign you see is when you get off on the exit ramp. Next to nothing there. Edit: According to Wikipedia, there are 11 states with a town with this name and spelling. CO is the only one with spelling of Limon.

[@thomasrinschler6783]

They're named after the city in Ukraine, presumably from people who emigrated from there. Weirdly enough, the original was in the news not long ago when the Ukrainians took it back from Russia.

[@samseddmedia]

I do NOT justify signing Burlington anymore. Just skip it and go straight to Greensboro!

[@pat02537]

3:51 there's a NASCAR track in Martinsville

[@johncrandall5782]

Finally! Some entertainment while I supervise my turkey in the fryer

[@ControlCityFreak]

Happy Thanksgiving!

[@dvferyance]

Happy Thanksgiving everyone. I was kind of surprised there was a new video today after all.

[@ControlCityFreak]

Happy Thanksgiving!

[@titanytofficial_]

Origin’s the way it should be for I-85: Raleigh-Durham, Greensboro, Charlotte, Greenville-Spartanburg, Greenville-Atlanta, Atlanta, and finally Montgomery also great video

[@mxderateprod]

I agree although I would add Raleigh before Durham. It's much more well known and slightly bigger.

[@ControlCityFreak]

Solid

[@titanytofficial_]

@@mxderateprod true but 85 technically doesn’t go to Raleigh so that’s why i didn’t include it

[@mxderateprod]

@@titanytofficial_ Doesn't matter. It's still more well known than Durham and not too far off the route.

[@titanytofficial_]

@@mxderateprod well true and it’s the capital of North Carolina so I’ll add it

[@jimc.goodfellas]

I'm just here for the "YEAH"

[@dhinton1]

"gotta give the people what they want" 😂😂😂😂 #crying thank you fellow fans for pointing out the Lyman (SC) sign on 85 😎

[@CrystalClearWith8BE]

I was thinking of a better way to sign southbound I-85 not just primary control cities, but also cities for different routes. Observe.: •Durham, NC | >Raleigh, NC (Research Triangle) •Durham, NC (after paralleling US 1) •Greensboro, NC -High Point, NC | •Charlotte, NC (I'm fine for signing High Point, NC in this direction and I think I'll do the same with northbound since that city is a 3rd control city of the Piedmont Triad.) •Charlotte, NC •Spartanburg, SC •Greenville, SC •Atlanta •Montgomery, AL | >Columbus, GA (after the concurrency with I-75) •Montgomery, AL (skipping I-185 GA)

[@mxderateprod]

This list is solid!

[@ControlCityFreak]

Solid

[@spellcast1391]

I would add Gastonia south of Charlotte. It’s bigger than Spartanburg and in-state

[@mxderateprod]

@@spellcast1391 I disagree. The Spartanburg-Greenville metro is significantly bigger than Gastonia.

[@MrBlalalalla]

@@mxderateprod Gastonia is part of the Charlotte metro though (unfortunately) lol

[@angelmalarkey7946]

This is my favorite one ❤

[@mxderateprod]

Mod's the way it should be: I-85 Southbound Raleigh (much bigger draw than Durham imo), Durham, Greensboro, Charlotte, Spartanburg and/or Greenville, Greenville, Atlanta, Columbus and/or Montgomery, Montgomery

[@ControlCityFreak]

Solid

[@spellcast1391]

I would add Gastonia southbound. It’s bigger than Spartanburg, and in NC. It should’ve NEVER been signed northbound because Charlotte is so much bigger, a major league city(Hornets, Panthers), and over 850k people in the city alone.

[@mxderateprod]

@@spellcast1391 It's not bigger than the Spartanburg-Greenville area.

[@123isacoolname]

you thought lyman city limits was weird? look at the neighbor city of greer south Carolina

[@VidClips858]

We knew NC was going to North Carolina this thing up.

[@ControlCityFreak]

lol

[@spellcast1391]

WE ❤ Provincial Control Cities!

[@mxderateprod]

It's not North Carolina without doing so!

[@samseddmedia]

Will you discuss this control city (Lyman SC) when you get to US 29?

[@williamiwells]

Good ol' US 58. Know it well. Runs basically the whole Southside of VA, just N of the State line of NC. Also, don't tell a Burlington resident they live in a suburb, you might be itchin' for a fight!

[@tylermarchand2996]

@williamwells8563 I just think Alamance County is stuck in a no man’s land between Durham and Greensboro, where it can’t be considered a part of either metro.

[@dannysteadman1357]

For Martinsville Speedway?

[@spellcast1391]

I’ve heard of the NASCAR Track

[@samseddmedia]

This time, I don't justify signing Lexington. Charlotte by itself does the job well enough. (By the way, when I-85 Southbound leaves US 29 beyond Lexington, it signs "Salisbury/Charlotte" again, because of US 52. That's the only justification I'd make for signing Salisbury, however, because it's a junction point for US 52 traffic.)

[@SonicandHighwayDude401]

Happy Thanksgiving Everyone! 🦃🦃🏤🚙

[@ControlCityFreak]

Happy Thanksgiving!

[@DMAN_2314]

Dave's the Way it Should Be for Southbound: Raleigh/Durham, Durham, Charlotte, Spartanburg, Greenville, Atlanta, Montgomery (I could be talked into throwing in there Columbus with Montgomery but I think just Montgomery by itself would do the job)

[@ControlCityFreak]

Solid

[@mxderateprod]

Solid list! Yeah I think Raleigh should be signed at least as a co-primary. It's a much bigger draw and even slightly bigger than Durham.

[@DMAN_2314]

@@mxderateprod I would most definitely do Raleigh/Durham until probably the US-1 exit and then do just 85 South Durham

[@mxderateprod]

@@DMAN_2314 Agreed

[@zapprmitromia]

6:56 They are everywhere O_O

[@catholicactionbibleonlyist1813]

As much as I like sweat home Alabama Lynyrd Skynyrd put more heart in Free Bird While I was living in PA the road that I was living on was off of U.S route 6 Should I visit my cousin house in Georgia my have use I-85 Would like vist Atlanta someday

[@ControlCityFreak]

I'm a Tuesday's Gone man myself

[@truckercowboyed2638]

So really 85 can get you from Richmond Virginia to La since you take i85 to i65 down to i10 at Mobile and i10 all the way to LA.....I think 85 could be signed Charlotte/Atlanta/Mobile after Durham......

[@ControlCityFreak]

Why skip Montgomery? State capital and it’s bigger than Mobile.

[@truckercowboyed2638]

@@ControlCityFreak yes I don't know why I skipped Montgomery,

[@tylermarchand2996]

@ControlCityFreak Actually, Mobile is bigger. 10k (Lowndes) + 55k (Autauga) + 85k (Elmore) + 230k (Montgomery) = 380k Montgomery metro. Meanwhile, 15k (Washington) + 415k (Mobile) = 430k Mobile metro. And I’m not even including the roughly 250k in Baldwin County (across the Mobile River and abutting the Florida state line (Pensacola). The OMB currently has Baldwin County as its own metro (Daphne-Fairhope-Foley), but it could very well become part of the Mobile metro if the OMB updates for the census…

[@ControlCityFreak]

@@tylermarchand2996 Metro yeah, I meant city proper.

[@tylermarchand2996]

@ControlCityFreak I always say that city limit population can be very misleading, which is why metro populations are what I take into consideration. They say more about how expansive an urban area is.

[@geraldnagytenneson]

The way I think it should be Durham Greensboro Charlotte Spartanburg Greenville Atlanta Montgomery