Interview Excerpt with Arkansas Attorney General Leslie Rutledge | The Problem With Jon Stewart

Jon sat down for a conversation with Leslie Rutledge, the Attorney General of Arkansas - the first state to pass a ban on gender-affirming care for minors. He asked her to explain why the state took this health care decision out of parents’ hands, and why they’ve overridden the guidelines issued by every major medical organization.
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[@davidcarter7547]

Who in her office thought that sitting for an interview on this show was a good idea?

[@ForgottenHonor0]

They're most likely not working for her, anymore! 🤣

[@AdmiralAverage01]

They probably thought that they were totally prepared for Jon Stewart.

[@tx3973]

It's the south lol...a bit ummm slower than norm. An by all means don't mean all but man o man. The south is something else lol. Smh

[@Ethan-uo5ff]

@@tx3973 Arkansan here: I fucking hate my state leaders and most of the inhabitants. It's fucking ridiculous living here to be quite honest.

[@monotech20.14]

Jon Stewart did great. Problem is rightwingers don't care about the facts and don't care she embarrassed herself.

[@KatarinaLandlova]

How freaking awesome is to watch an interview, where the interviewer just doesn’t let the bullshitter get away with their bullshit, and is very constructive and surprisingly polite at the same time! This is a Masterclass in interviewing and should be studied like that:)

[@shawnpeterson2523]

Yeah that was my takeaway too. Regardless of what you believe about the actual topic, there is no denying how well hey did this. It wasn’t manipulative or “gotcha”, just asking her to present her stance with evidence.

[@clintholmes2061]

Your comment is funny because you let jon get away with the BS of giving an award to a neonazi and not apologizing for it.

[@ZeekDaGeek]

It's unfortunately an interviewing style that burns bridges. You get to have a few interviews where people are grilled, but then the next person you attempt to interview says, "We saw that last one, we don't want that to happen to us." But your reputation or your organization's reputation follows you. In general in an interview you have to let people spew their bullshit allowing the person to feel like they got something out the interview and hope that the audience can form their own thoughts about the ideas, maybe framing the piece with a meta narrative, talking and informing the viewer with real informed statistics and the interview is only part of the story. Interviews are done the way they are to let the interview prove their ideas are dumb by saying them out loud. The standard styles exist because they're repeatable. ** Edit to clarify. I agree with Jon's point of view, AG of Arkansas is clearly cherry picking and being a weasel to pass whatever she already believed and wanted to pass. This response was only related to the style of combative interviews vs let them say bullshit.

[@OBGynKenobi]

@@ZeekDaGeek that totally goes against the principle of holding people accountable. Which is what journalism is supposed to do. If as a person voted into office you cannot be fully accountable in interviews or anything else then you're just a hack.

[@jl8942]

@@ZeekDaGeek long winded, pretentious, nonsense.

[@dowyler24]

One of the greatest things about Jon is that he doesn't just let the people he interviews slide on their BS. He calls them out and holds them accountable. That is what is missing from the media today. A willingness to say "No, you're wrong. Your data is not data, and there is just truth and facts, and you are doing neither." I love that about him.

[@rocortega2064]

I work for media (not the US), it's amazing how many reporters and hosts admire interviews and interviewers like this but they themselves don't have the b***s to do it.

[@pranavid]

Only Hasan Minhaj has stood up to those tests.

[@lowlifepunks]

*cough* Joe Rogan *cough*

[@spade7602]

she wasn't lying her reports are probably from books that have been recently banned by multinational invested corporations like amazon for example shes quoting abigal shrier who has a phd in psychology and has studied gender dysphoria john however is in fact talking out of his ass hes quoting peer review articles which aren't studies or even remotely credible there are no long term studies done on gender dysphoria because its been recent with the uprising which it makes sense why Abigal Shrier was banned from many publishers on her books on it because she breaks down the reasons if you all want to be gold fish and think john stewart is right without giving any credible evidence whats so ever be my guest be uneducated and a fuckin gold fish but when children grow up kill themselves because they destroyed their bodies you best believe were pointing the fingers at people like you and the corporations who profited off of children in the name of social contagion if john stewart died tomorrow id be happy hes a pos anyone who wants to see children get mutiliated for profit is fucking disgusting and your disgusting for supporting this bs. im sure the majority of you dont believe in hell but i do and i personally hope all of you g2 hell for pushing this shit onto children to further more on johns ignorance we dont have enough when did u see transgender children 15 20 years ago can anyone guess how many gender affirming care centers there were in 2007? 2 now there is over 300. so fuck you john u paid schill g2 hell

[@spade7602]

the figure isnt made up either john is such a pos it may be hard to get your hands on these books bc as said b4 the studies were done years ago b4 this became what i call a social contagion but it did affect 2 percnet of the population

[@jamesoblivion]

The involuntary facial expressions are the best. Not just in this interview, but in so many of Jon's interviews. You can see these people absolutely squirming. This is what real journalism looks like, and we've become such a softball news culture, they're completely unprepared to face actual, meaningful pushback of this magnitude.

[@keith_dixon]

Jon has a team that writes this material. He then practices these arguments. He then goes in front of someone that is completely unprepared for what's coming, while he is completely prepared. So it makes sense how these go down.

[@fabianbravoa]

@@keith_dixon "someone that is completely unprepared for what's coming" is the one pushing that law, she should be the one with the most expertise on the matter

[@dennissilber287]

She tried so hard to keep from squirming that it all came out in her face.

[@ChronoStrife]

"This is what real journalism looks like" I love that the average peanut brain Redditor thinks like this.

[@rivereverlasting8208]

​@@keith_dixonsounds like they're making excuses

[@jonathanjoestar1938]

“I wasn’t prepared to have a Supreme Court argument today” This sentence really says a lot about how other interviewers have treated her. She sees asking “what doctors recommend the policy you’ve enacted” as an unfairly high bar to have to meet in an interview, but it should be the norm.

[@fredtello]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/o36lq5mLn5qtqck.. why don't you watch Bill Maher talk about child trans issue.... He not dumb like john

[@sexuallobster134679]

That's what I said, if I agreed to an interview on a topic, if I were half-competant would be prepared lmao

[@Brittjones]

She is the Attorney General for the state of Arkansas…it’s her job to argue the merits of the law…

[@sexuallobster134679]

@@Brittjones Well yeah, "I do naht recaull" isn't a good way to do it is the point I think

[@housecastle]

@@sexuallobster134679 Half-competent - she would have to work hard to be quarter-competent. Glad I can say I didn't vote for her.

[@iamnotgroot3693]

"I don't have a supreme court argument" is a funny way of saying "I can't answer the most basic question I should have expected in an interview about this topic".

[@brucebostick2521]

along with; "I didn't know I'd have to argue a SC case," MEANING ---- "I didn't think Id have to answer any questions or be prepared for this interview." Unbelievable arrogance & ignorance!!

[@_Pumpkin_Seed_]

We should not give drugs to kids, period.

[@Dnichols619]

Does that include anti-depressants?

[@Dnichols619]

Or something you might empathize with because your empathy seems to be quite limited, does that include chemotherapy.

[@iamnotgroot3693]

@@_Pumpkin_Seed_ what a stupid take. Caffeine? Tylenol? Asthma inhaler steroids? Chemotherapy? Adderall for ADHD? Sleep aids for insomnia?

[@E3-TV]

"I wasn't prepared to have a Supreme Court argument" Translation: I'm not used to being asked hard questions by journalists.

[@alno2554]

“I don’t know it off the top of my head, we have it cited and we are happy to provide it to you.” Translation: once this interview is done, you’re happy to contact us again with your concerns and we will ignore your requests because we actually don’t have any because we are using our feelings as facts and don’t realize it.

[@Owen_loves_Butters]

@@alno2554You're giving them too much credit. They know EXACTLY what they're doing.

[@jackyichan4759]

Translation: I'm not used to speaking to someone who isn't a FOX-brainwashed sheeple or a mentally developing undergrad

[@ethandenton3393]

Yeah. I'm a bit surprised actually, because that is actually her job

[@bchero]

@@ethandenton3393 She knows it's all indefensible bullshit. You can see it in her face. It's party over everything for the cult that is the current republican party.

[@yodamoda8400]

Nothing is more frustrating than seeing people like her ruining lives because she feels entitled to impose her opinions on others

[@omarsanchez9709]

Or maybe its trying to prevent children and kids from having body parts removed all because of a feeling. Instead of getting actual psychological help and letting them decide when they reach 18.

[@voppo]

​@@omarsanchez9709assuming they reach 18, sure

[@wisewolftony]

@@omarsanchez9709 Yup just keep spewing lies. No kids are having body parts removed.

[@omarsanchez9709]

@wisewolftony 1) The article talks on the massive increase in kids identifying as Trans with the highest numbers in CA and NY. It also shows the total number of surgeries teens under 18 received as of 2021. That number is now higher in 2023, and those numbers are only those that health insurance paid for. It does not account for out of pocket surgeries. 2) Associated press: June 2022. Talks about how a leading transgender health association lowered the age for minors to 15 to have surgery. 3) Article talks about the fact that puberty blockers have unknown risks and are still to this day, not FDA approved, and have no actual measurements of how much or for how long. Plus, there is a potential increase in osteoporosis because bone loss density, loss of bone growth, cancer, and infertility, and worst still, unknown neurological effects that only take place during natural puberty years. I can keep on giving you FACTS with actual article after article, but you won't ever actually read and educate yourself. It's because of ppl like you that these horrible things are being allowed to happen. 1. AP News apnews.com › article Trans kids' treatment can start younger, new guidelines say 2.www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/when-transgender-kids-transition-medical-risks-are-both-known-and-unknown/ 3.www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/gender-dysphoria/in-depth/pubertal-blockers/art-20459075 4.www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-transyouth-data/

[@brother.teresa]

​@omarsanchez9709 not your kids...not your business. You wanna protect kids...enforce Red Flag gun laws

[@bronaghtadhg]

If knowing the name of ONE SINGLE medical organization that can back up your stance is all it takes to be "prepared for a supreme court argument", then I guess supreme court isn't all that hard?

[@000Dragon50000]

Guess it's just something you can pop into on a casual sunday in the US lol

[@whasian1487]

The experts who testified were likely referencing the Dutch study on desistance rate. And that study gives a range of 80%-97.5% desistance rate among prepubescent children experiencing GID.

[@lewisbeattie2533]

@@whasian1487 the Dutch study that has been scrutinized for a) tiny sample size (127 Boys) and b) non-valid categorization of Gender Dysphoria. The criteria they had was hugely flawed. 38/127 never matched any criteria for Gender Indentity Disorder and the study concluced anyone who didn't return to the clinic was "desisting" which is flawed because they are expecting young children to remember and return their life outcomes to a clinical study they barely knew they were part of as children.

[@whasian1487]

@@lewisbeattie2533 sounds right. Never said the study was good. There aren't any well done studies on this subject from what I understand. The only common denominator in the dozen or so studies that do exist say that the desist rate higher than 50%

[@BAP3221]

The organization that backs up the stance does not matter because that organization can be paid to promote it. What matters is what she said that a child making irreversable life decisions they may regret in the future is what matters. Kids should not be making these types of decisions until they are old enough to do it at 18 at the least.

[@EdwardTHead1776]

"you said you can't." "No no no no wrong. We said you can not"

[@DerAptrgangr]

I caught that, too. She obfuscated it by like, one sentence. Ma'am, no. You'll have to try at least barely harder than that.

[@apullcan]

Contractions night be a bit above her brain capacity

[@thomthom6268]

I think I read somewhere that people dropping contractions in their spoken speech is a sign of lying.

[@thomthom6268]

@@apullcan what about day? Heehee

[@Mx.T.Queerwater]

Lmfao exactly

[@allydidier791]

Thank you for standing up for us Jon, it's very heartwarming and gives me hope

[@ProkofNY]

NHS England just banned the use of puberty blockers outside or clinical research trials. How is it in any way compassionate or heartwarming to pretend that there is a clear scientific consensus or that “the science is settled” on this topic, when-looking at the most empirical data coming from Europe-the exact opposite seems to be the case? To continue to imply that these interventions are uncontroversial in an attempt to demonize those who disagree with you and politicizing the topic, in actuality, denotes a clear misunderstanding of how the scientific method works. Most importantly, it helps no one.

[@gastonstinger]

If good ol' Jon is your hope you are doomed girl

[@kr111ss]

@@gastonstingeryou've left 11 hate comments on this channel, none attacking any idea raised by Jon but instead attacking him as a person. Really is telling.

[@badwulff]

@@kr111ss Because these people have no arguments (or at least, no fact- or reality-based ones). All they have is fear and hatred of those they don't understand, bitterness that the system they live in doesn't allow them to be happy for reasons they refuse to understand, and violence against those they will never understand.

[@alterworlds1629]

Unfortunately these types he talks to are literally paid to push this nonsense. They are quite literally paid actors by religious fundraising organizations to push their religious authoritarian bullshit.

[@kenziawong1012]

"we're not saying you can't we're saying you cannot" LOL

[@JustAGuyProduction]

"That's an incredibly made up figure" Nicely done. He didn't go easy on her

[@onetwentydb]

He went the exact *opposite* of easy. Holy hell. It was uncomfortable to watch.

[@raulmagana1836]

He's right... its ~80% according to NIH

[@JustAGuyProduction]

@@raulmagana1836 according to what statistic?

[@raulmagana1836]

@JustAGuyProduction That figure came from the NIH... like I said... sooo...

[@gdbyzantryx810]

@@raulmagana1836 Link?

[@ComboBreakerHD]

There is something my dad (a seasoned litigator) taught me from a very young age. Something Jon exemplifies right here. It's the idea that you are not obligated to take someone at their word. And the idea that if someone is going to present something with confidence, they should know how to back it with confidence. The great thing about telling the truth is that you can also say where you get your truth from. I love that Jon is so good at this.

[@nh251]

Comparing gender confusion to cancer is kind of a terrible way to argue a point though. They are in no way the same thing or on the same level. I love Jon Stewart, but this was a weak arguing point. Jon even helped me personally when he fought for the pact act recently, but I still don't thing he's got a very good argument on this point. I don't support the mutilation of children, physical or hormonal. The human brain isn't fully developed until around age 25. This lady is trying to prevent children from mutilating themselves who may later change their minds. If you're confused about your gender you for sure shouldn't be making decisions that permanently affect your health and wellbeing for the rest of your life. Once someone is an adult they then have the freedom to go on hormones or get whatever surgery they want. I support the prevention of child genital mutilation.

[@theresa7328]

@@nh251 Why is it a terrible comparison? Kids can't have surgery until they are over 18. Before 18, we are ALL on hormones. That's where we get breasts and beards and periods and deeper voices from. Some people are just on the wrong hormones. And it is somewhat reversible. After puberty, some trans women will have to have surgery in adulthood if their voices are too deep, so the deep voice is not reversible for some, but is for others. I've had cancer and I have friends who are trans. Cancer is a cakewalk in comparison, and people bring you casseroles.

[@DrHemroid]

@@nh251 A simple misunderstanding. Doctors aren't recommending genital surgery, they are recommending hormone blockers and hormone replacement. Also, the cancer comparison makes more sense if you understand gender dysphoria is life altering and potentially fatal. But you shouldn't believe a stranger on the internet, you should believe the doctors who have spent years researching this topic and have had every argument you can imagine already.

[@DrTssha]

​@@theresa7328 Slight addendum here: the surgeries for voice aren't always effective, or have as good results as the patient might like. Honestly, it's all the more reason to make puberty blockers more accessible because puberty is permanent. Those who argue "wait for adulthood" are leaving out the fact that the changes puberty inflicts are also permanent! We can't unwiden hips, we can't reliably undeepen voices. Breast removal costs thousands of dollars. We could prevent all of this, and cheaply too. But these people don't care, because they don't understand us and don't want to understand us. They are confident they know the truth, but their ignorance is obvious the minute they open their mouths.

[@MrSlatra]

@@DrTssha Agree 💯with everything you said. Ignorant people are always so sure of themselves, on any topic. Educating yourself on something takes too much effort and the folks attacking minority groups are saying they're "doing it for the kids". Dressing up discrimination as righteousness is almost always how it's done.

[@summerbrewster5555]

My kid told me they were struggling and I busted my ass to get them help. It just turned out to be ADHD but I wouldn't stop until my baby wasn't depressed or stressed out anymore. Any good parent would bust their ass to get their children help no matter what it is. I would rather my child be alive & happy living their authentic life than dare force them to conform bc they won't and they won't make it out alive.

[@frewjitsu_funk83]

Absolutely. I want a safe home where my kid can feel like we got his back. No matter what!

[@Unknown-ov2kz]

You're a wonderful parent. It's people like you that I'd wish could be cloned, so that every kid who needed and didn't have a good parent, could have one!

[@summerbrewster5555]

@@Unknown-ov2kz awwww thank you so much. I've struggled to feel like a good parent at times and that's probably what pushes me to be a better parent.

[@zabeerfarid7687]

Thank you for supporting an adhd kid 🙏

[@saltycracker3649]

So if they said they were the opposite gender, you would've went right ahead with the surgery? It's, maybe, a TOTALLY different situation JackAss

[@jurassicsmackdown6359]

AAG: "We have proof that gender care is harming kids!" Jon: "Okay show us this magic proof that suddenly, out of nowhere, contradicts the entire medical consensus" AAG: "I dont know it personally but it's there!"

[@rambofan334]

Jon: Nice argument, Senator. Why don't you back it up with a source. AAG: My source is that I made it the fuck up.

[@chrisjones5949]

Her response is the interview equivalent of "Well, you can Google it yourself."

[@sekaiyoru01]

​@@rambofan334 You literally said this already, you terminally online Redditor

[@royalanempire2965]

This is the equivalent of that fucker Joseph R. McCarthy during the red scare. Saying he things but not even backing them up with facts.

[@jurassicsmackdown6359]

@@sekaiyoru01 cmon, leave em be. Theyre not wrong

[@chinaskibukowski7747]

I'm actually shocked her handlers let her engage with Stewart in the first place. They had to know he'd run intellectual circles around her and that's precisely what he did. It's mind boggling people like Rutledge attain positions of power when she's so clearly obtuse.

[@jeremybenoit759]

Ok so he talks a little better, he didn't prove that anything he says is true, as usual.

[@chinaskibukowski7747]

@@jeremybenoit759 Literally everything he said is true and verifiable. That fact that you aren't Inteligent enough to grasp that doesn't surprise me, as usual.

[@aarongerdts216]

He did the same thing she did.. spoke about shit he doesn't know

[@gibunjota9839]

He didnt run any intellectual circles. All he did was name drop medical associations just to say your data is wrong and mine’s correct, without showing any data. It’s less risky to be conservative and wait for more validations rather than jump into it just like how the liberal states handled coronavirus vaccines

[@chinaskibukowski7747]

@@gibunjota9839 100% ran circles around her and called out her bullshit lies. The liberal states saw FAR less deaths of covid per capita than conservative runs states did. So, it's factually safe to say it's riskier to live in conservative states thanks to their science denials and outright stupidity.

[@BRandoncoal]

"I wasn't prepared to have a supreme court argument with you" And this person is the attorney general for an entire state?

[@Silkie_Dragon]

I was shocked at that remark. Gives you a good idea of how fucked she’d be to actually stand witness at the Supreme Court

[@frishdawgz]

@@Silkie_Dragon she used 'Supreme Court" as an adjective. It's nothing but parroting talking points. A pile of word mush.

[@mattpowell6291]

This guy isn't even funny. Is he transgender? He has NO authority in this conversation.

[@strikerorwell9232]

Im totally with Jon Stewart cause the "consensus" of modern medicin never been proven wrong!

[@bgbgbg123]

@@strikerorwell9232 the "consensus" of fringe doctors has been proven wrong way more often.

[@jaredhamline]

The calm and the logic behind this spoke so much. He didn't need to yell or raise his voice. That's true power.

[@nofurtherwest3474]

He came off as mansplaining though, very condescending and close minded to any other ideas. Just as he accuses the other side.

[@NexusSomnia]

@@nofurtherwest3474 facts typically aren't open to other random ideas, it's true

[@flashpone7910]

This is such a great video and shows just how clueless these people are who make these decisions.

[@snowy1634]

She is depending on "Experts" that she can't even name and don't know who they represent? We're supposed to accept that? Thank you, Jon. You are masterful.

[@DRob-gq3ki]

Shes really bad at arguing her points I wouldn’t hire her as a lawyer. Still doesn't change the fact hospitals are profiting off of genital mutations of minors just like they profit off of the opioid crisis. Transgenders peoples problem is neurological not with their genitalia.

[@Douglas-zd7mz]

If you really want to learn Give it break w/your Stewed Stewart fanBOI worship as he us so party politics biased and easy to debate like the sane medical.affiliated for gain actions made many advisement put into place during & for covid-19 that other countries did w better results' esp for the young & elderly

[@nts4906]

Anti trans fascists have no arguments l. Just hateful religious backwards scum mad that they are the worst that humanity has to offer.

[@CrniWuk]

She's lying. Their experts are her weird voter base that gets their "expertise" on youtube or what ever strange place they visit on the net where they claim doctors are mutilating babies. She doesn't give a flying fuck about children I think. She wants to secure her position. And by pushing for this bill, she makes sure the crazy ones out there, vote for her.

[@curtisowen3233]

And at the same time is the voice for people that don't trust experts 😅

[@LeviOArts]

"Sorry I didn't come prepared to have a debate with you" bruh you literally had this on your schedule lmao

[@tompaulcampbell]

Well. even I was pretty shocked at Jon's cavalier attitude toward "changing the sex" of a minor. I think she was expecting a bit of rationality but, wow, the Left acceptance of sexual deviation even to the point of calling each other "queer" and identifying as all manner of deviants, is over the top. The comical invention of pronouns is really rich as well!

[@bw2020]

His show schedules something like this as an interview, he plays up the snark for the camera and his audience, and then of course it’s edited in his favor.

[@whimsicalstray]

​@@bw2020 no amount of editing, on the part of the show, would be able to remove a valid argument, if she had one. She was stuck in a circular argument and couldn't see simple logic. The truth is, she has a narrative that she keeps reaffirming and she'll dismiss any evidence to the contrary.

[@bw2020]

@@whimsicalstray true, she did a pretty bad job defending herself, that’s why Jon chose her, instead of say, Matt Walsh, the main guy who has brought so much of this issue to the forefront. Jon can railroad this old lady and make her look stupid. He probably wouldn’t look so smooth if he picked on someone his own size. But to be fair, this lady should have done a lot better, her case is easily defensible.

[@brycehouse3544]

@@bw2020 no its not lmao, basically every reputable medical organization disagrees with her position. Matt Walsh is a fucking idiot lmao, he wouldn’t do better because the fact remains is that there is no well thought out argument behind their position. None of their claims have any rational or scientific arguments backing them. Just made up bullshit

[@aftonair]

God bless your decency and integrity Jon Stewart ❤

[@ProkofNY]

Journalistic integrity would be to provide a well balanced and objective segment on this serious and complicated topic. He is not doing that.

[@aftonair]

@@ProkofNY you must have been watching a different interview.

[@ProkofNY]

⁠@@aftonair oh, I watched the interview, alright. However, it is not about what is in the interview per se, but about what is lacking in Jon’s narrative. There is another side to this debate with science to back its claims, yet the implication is there that because this lady is ineloquent and unprepared, then the evidence to contradict Jon’s views does not exist. This is not objective journalism, and I would go as far as to claim that it is irresponsible and lacking in integrity to fail properly to cover both sides of this debate.

[@nafiulawal1443]

Gaddam I am loving how you handle your interviews Jon. I am learning a lot about how to make arguments.

[@xXBuiltForWarXx]

Binge watching these interviews Jon does and usually around the 4 minute mark I always find myself wondering “who keeps letting these people debate Jon, it NEVER ends well”

[@jmd1980]

That's how delusional these people are. That they think their BS arguments will hold up where so many have failed.

[@LVL50DarkElf]

Lulz. I watch whatever new video drops 😂. Utterly destroys them with brilliantly thought out common sense questions

[@skumflum3768]

first of all his interview style is extremely hostile and he never really considered that the other side do have some valid concerns. Other countries like Sweden and the UK are beginning to realize that most of the rapid onset gender dysphasia in Teenage girls are cases of psychogenic contagion. Sweden has put a complete stop on treatment for trans minors and the UK has closed the only dedicated gender identity clinic for children and young people. 1000 lawsuits is filed against them. It’s not a health professional job to confirmed patients self diagnosis or identity. Self reporting is a part of it of cause but now it’s required by law some places. Older studies (real large population studies) has indicated that 80% settles into their gender from birth if left alone. And a large portion of those actually turn up gay. I would love to see him interview some knowledgeable who actually know something about this topic instead of a half dumb politician

[@claudiasolomon1123]

​@@skumflum3768He's so hostile. Extremely hostile. I feel so bad for her having to deal with this big bully. We have to make it illegal to get hormone replacement therapy until age 28. I know some teens who said they're transgender have un-alived themselves when given no choice but to go back into the closet &, that is kind of sad I guess but we have to protect our kids.

[@skumflum3768]

@@robhall2891 the typical approach is to have long talks beforehand and have a perfectly balanced longer discussion. This make the interviewee feel comfortable and then utterly unprepared for the slaughtering.

[@j.t.hartzfeld1368]

The look on her face when he responds with, "Wow! That is an incredibly made up number." That was priceless.

[@simonb4689]

it's actually not a made up number. all studies without puberty blockers show that 60-90% of kids, depending on the study, grow out of their gender confusion after puberty, most of them finding out they are just gay/lesbian.

[@lobopix_]

Her thinks bubble had an atomic bomb going off in it. Priceless indeed.

[@bradmarchant7822]

And the sigh of exasperation at end! The realization that we’re going nowhere

[@Lahng_Blackduke]

So, what we have here is a prosecutor who is clearly fabricating testimony. Kinda makes her conviction record more than a little suspect, doesn't it?

[@Khronogi]

And she didnt defend the number either.

[@miacavanaugh5090]

I could not love this interview more. Keep doing what you do Jon!!

[@harishthethird]

One word- Beautiful

[@E3-TV]

This was brutal, and I guarantee she'll never do an interview like this again. She's strictly FOX News from now on 🤣

[@trey7772]

Lol. Probably NewsMax. Fox News is having its own issues now.

[@Raydensheraj]

Newsmax, OAN, Project Varitas, Breitbart, PragerU and she will be the main expert on in the Neo Confederate Christian Fundamentalist Journal of Creationist TrumpliKKKlans...

[@CassieAngelica]

“I wasn’t prepared for a Supreme Court argument with you.” Shows you the average level of questions they are asked.

[@CCFQuelex]

She's not just a lawyer, she's the state's AG and she knew what they'd ask about when the interview was set up.

[@CassieAngelica]

@@CCFQuelex the point was that most journalists who work for mainstream outlets are not good at being journalists.

[@PaleGhost69]

When asking someone to support their bullshit is now "a Supreme Court argument"

[@ProfessorTravis]

@@CassieAngelica for a comedian, Jon's scientific literacy and critical thinking ability is through the roof.

[@malkneil]

Thing is, the current SCOTUS would probably be on her side.

[@deborahmitchell4575]

Brilliant Jon! You're the best debater I've ever seen!

[@ProkofNY]

Hmm…if he chooses that soft a target the of course he will come out triumphant. Why not debate someone who will actually challenge him?

[@bijtah]

Jon’s metaphor for pediatric cancer really altered my perspective on gender-affirming care. When you realize that gender-affirming care is a serious yet life-saving matter like chemotherapy for a child dying of cancer, it entirely changes your perspective

[@ProkofNY]

The evidence for the benefits of GAC for minors is lacking according to the systematic evidence reviews available on the topic. The largest study on trans suicide concluded that GAC does not mitigate risk of suicide. The methaphor with childhood cancer is insulting at best.

[@anastasia11986]

@@ProkofNYthis is just incorrect. I’m sure you don’t mean to spread misinformation.

[@ProkofNY]

@@anastasia11986were you aware of these systematic reviews and have you read them? Otherwise, how would you know “this is just incorrect”? Any evidence to back up your claims that the findings of these systematic reviews (or my pointing out the existence of such reviews) constitutes “disinformation”?

[@justanidiotmk2749]

​@@ProkofNYBecause your reviews not only have been disproven but are sponsored by anti-science Christian conservative movements

[@senormacaco2834]

@@ProkofNYJust say you hate trans people bro

[@jrg2866]

Most American interviewers have lost 100% of their nerve with these people. Keep it up! Hold their feet to the fire!

[@aarongerdts216]

He literally did the same thing she did.. bold claims no data...

[@ProkofNY]

According to you, what should be the goal when reporting on these issues? Objectivity and finding the truth of what is essentially and intricate and polemic issue, or _owning the conservatives_ at all cost?

[@phillipsouthard8285]

@@aarongerdts216 He named multiple organizations that backed up his comments, she did not. She just made stuff up.

[@aarongerdts216]

@@phillipsouthard8285 sources that profit from mutilating children... it's like when people came out and said the vaccines were safe and effective. And they served on the board of advisors for Pfizer.. well no shit they said they are safe and effective.. turns out they might not be that safe, nor are they effective... they made billions of dollars though so who gives a phuck?.. go watch the video of the lady at Vanderbilt talking about how they need to push theese surgical procedures because they bring the hospital 10s of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of dollars..

[@phillipsouthard8285]

@@aarongerdts216 Odd, my family practice and my wife's family practice don't serve on the board of advisors for Pfizer and said the vaccine was safe? The urgent care doctors I saw when I tore a muscle in my leg all said the vaccine was safe and none of them are on the board of advisors. Tell me, do you normally get your medical advice from twitter/internet? Have you talked to an actual doctor? Doesn't seem like it.

[@DocRock71]

I have never seen a politician look so tense and squirm so much as this lady and it was WONDERFUL to watch.

[@Scott-fy7fm]

How can someone who passed the bar exam not be able to put together thoughts better than this?

[@user-zh4vs9kg2w]

Because they're a far right republican from AR? Maybe the Arkansas bar exam leaves off the logic section.

[@Scott-fy7fm]

@@user-zh4vs9kg2w (Signs name at top of page) " sweet, 20% done!"

[@veemie8148]

​@user-zh4vs9kg2w You might say they may be "Lowering the BAR"

[@narnius6139]

Also, her position is indefensible, at least up against Stewart's skillful prodding.

[@MWorsa]

I concur.

[@SupaDupaMoisty]

Despite what is right and what is wrong, it's frightening some of our government operates under opinion rather than fact.

[@Mickey-1994]

You're cool with drugging kids and removing body parts off them when they're physically healthy?

[@TheTrailburner]

So basically her argument is: "We feel that parents need to get a 2nd opinion. So we're going to pass laws to ensure that they ONLY get said 2nd opinion that we want them to get." At that point, how can you even call it a 2nd opinion?

[@wingsandash]

You don't. She and her ilk are the worst humanity has to offer, and speak fluent word salad.

[@olezidane392]

@wingsandash I agree! Person with uteruses are so stupid

[@wingsandash]

@@olezidane392 WTF?

[@olezidane392]

@@wingsandash I'm with you comrade. She and her ilk (persons with uteruses) are the worst of humanity. Intellectually and physically incapable of competing with their trans sisters. We (persons with scrotums) will rid the world of them and breed amongst ourselves so there is no longer a binary.

[@wingsandash]

@@olezidane392 I'm against intolerance of any sort. I don't know what you're going for, exactly.

[@josephmulvaney4595]

I remember jon saying a long time ago, that he would never seek public office bc there are photos of him in college that would prevent him from getting a job at the post office. The bar is so low that we have people in congress who "allegedly" traffic minors for sex. Not to mention "alleged" rapists and people who live in alternate realities. Jon, whatever you have in the closet is nowhere near as bad.

[@kiskaloo6843]

He's be a saint compared to the lot standing for election for the GOP

[@jcb355]

We had a career criminal, serial rapist, FASCIST president for chrissake! They are 'installing' election deniers and fake electors into election official seats! Yeah, I'm absolutely positive that Jon Stewart sails far above the criteria for public office. *#JonStewartForPRESIDENT*

[@kelvinmack7104]

Once Upon a Time character mattered, Donald Trump ended all of that when it comes to politics

[@82abhilash]

It must be real bad. I mean if he is willing to do this level of deception in public, I am sure he is much worse of person in private. I hope he does run for some public office. His fall from grace is long overdue.

[@jcb355]

@@82abhilash So... facts elude you. Got it. 👍

[@michaeladkins6]

I love when Jon carefully and completely takes down gop bullies.

[@Mickey-1994]

Not wanting children drugged is bullying? Interesting

[@Onyyyxx]

@@Mickey-1994smooth brain comment

[@Mickey-1994]

@@Onyyyxx The truth shouldn't trigger you, little man.

[@smclemore89]

I was literally like this 😳 the whole interview. I mean WOW, she knew she was full of it.

[@kylemaddox3423]

I love these segments, he just gets a super powerful person who made a horrible decision, and just rakes them right over the coals. Makes me feel good that at least someone is keeping them accountable. And watching them squirm is fun too.

[@smax4895]

You think outlawing the chemical castration and irreversible transformation of children is a horrible decision? Lol. Disgusting

[@jennifersteele7036]

Exactly! Anyone that sides with these fools will argue that Jon keeps picking weak politicians to interview. My question is how is the Attorney General of Arkansas or a state senator of Oklahoma a weak link? Rutledge fought for this ban and knows nothing about the subject. Jon chewed her up and it was pure art watching it go down😊

[@diywrites8703]

I love how Jon is so polite and composed and calm and yet so savagely dismantles and destroys people on the other side.

[@haroldbrooks4235]

Jon is a Beast

[@billsmith1361]

@rbxl010 Coping with what? A salient argument? This is amazing try harder troll

[@3182john]

@rbxl0103what exactly do you mean?

[@3182john]

@@kilomintoni4556trump has mentioned “destroying the democrats” multiple times in many rallies and discussions… you’re right trump is very childish and sophomoric

[@jedensnow1084]

@@3182john It's stupid when either side uses it. We're here discussing what society should do, not forcing our opinions. If what society does is determined by someone "destroying" another, then why not just kill those who disagree with you?

[@bettiraige3474]

She just doesn't budge. She knows damn well it's infringing on the child's rights, and just sits there with that smug look on her face. I appreciate you, Jon because I don't think I could be this calm.

[@ProkofNY]

NHS England recently stopped prescribing puberty blockers to treat gender dysphoria outside of clinical research trials. Further, they strongly discourage patients from reviving these medications through a private provider. Did you know that Finnish scientists called transitioning minors a experimental practice based on a systematic evidence review they conducted on the topic? Did you know the Swedes conducted their own systematic review and concluded the risks outweigh the benefits for the use of puberty blockers and cross sex hormones to treat gender dysphoria in minors? The Brit’s own systematic reviews clearly state that there is not a robust evidence base underpinning these interventions. My question for you: where are the systematic evidence reviews which have been conducted by the American professional associations that advocate for these interventions, specifically when it comes to minors?

[@fa5234]

Her face when she realized he had foiled her reasoning was priceless!

[@HoOGenghisB]

That's a high level question. "What organization told you to think this?"

[@rutgerhauser2377]

I'd love to ask that to jon.

[@OatmealTheCrazy]

@@rutgerhauser2377 he literally answers that in the video

[@tonysnow2141]

The demtards ofc

[@syyner1748]

​@@rutgerhauser2377 you literally didn't even watch the video.... you people are such 🤡's

[@jasonburns6307]

Jon's getting his info from a 🍏🍎🍇🍐 🥧

[@Destinychanged]

“What medical organizations are you getting this guidance from to make your law?” “Trust me, bro”

[@jasondashney]

That's not in any capacity what she said. All the people defending this sham of an interview are blowing me away. She said people testify. That means what she's saying is easily verifiable. Not being able to name something off the top your head does not mean you are incorrect or lying or whatever. I can't believe the intellectual dishonesty of this interview and commenters. Objectively is out the window. Only agendas count now.

[@allisonmackay3818]

They're not used to talking to people who automatically question their assertions of "fact". They're used to audiences of clapping seals who don't question anything.

[@jasondashney]

@@allisonmackay3818 are you suggesting she's literally lying and nobody actually testified? That's all on the record. Good grief are ideologues frustrating

[@themazesystem5392]

Istg she was this close to starting her biblical «arguments» instead

[@themazesystem5392]

@@jasondashney Yes shes lying

[@sahd8565]

I love how she says it’s literal children that are like in elementary school going to get sex changes… most kids who start expressing gender dysphoria at those ages or even younger always start a SOCIAL transition, which is not a full step to a sex change. Social transitioning explains itself. You start to express yourself as the gender you identify with to your peers, family, etc. which involves wearing different clothes, changing your hair, different mannerisms or speech patterns, etc. it’s one of the easiest transitions any person can go through, and majority of the time that transition can help significantly ease any sort of dysphoria that individual is experiencing. I swear it’s just nitpicking on what you wanna hear.

[@ProkofNY]

It is recommended that kids start puberty blockers during Tanner stage 2, which in girls tends to fall somewhere between the ages of 10-12. In this country, most 10-year-olds tend to be around the 5th grade, so yes, this involves some kids who are still _literally_ in elementary school.

[@veemie8148]

​@ProkofNY good thing that puberty blockers are reversable and are already used in pediatric medicine for other conditions

[@ProkofNY]

@@veemie8148but are the _really_ reversible? When 96-98% of patients at the Tavistock’s GIDS who took puberty blockers eventually went on to cross-sex hormones, does the intervention really provide minors with “time to think” rather than locking them into a very specific treatment pathway? Also, the Finnish systematic review concluded that the risk factors involved with these medical interventions were not being systematically reported. Is this at all concerning?

[@cooldude6651]

@@ProkofNY The fact that 96-98% of people who got on puberty blockers in order to transition later, then went on to transition later, indicates that they were correct about wanting to transition and continued to want to transition. 96-98% of people taking puberty blockers for precocious puberty don't suddenly turn around and get on hormones. Also, you keep talking about finland and their systematic review, and then you keep not ever posting the systematic review. Is this at all productive?

[@ProkofNY]

@@cooldude6651 but are these interventions truly “pausing” puberty when patients are basically locked into a very specific treatment pathway? “A pause button” is how the drugs are being promoted to patients and their parents. Also, bear in mind that this data comes front the Tavistock’s GIDS, for which an independent panel of experts (acting upon complains from several whistleblowers) highlighted several issues, including lack of safeguards, rushed assessments, diagnostic overshadowing and a lack of data collection of long term patent outcomes. Also of relevant is that fact that the GIDS was, until recently, the world’s largest pediatric gender clinic. I just provided you with some citations in a different thread, but here is a little preview of the Finnish recommendations. Please compare and contrast this with the narrative being promoted by JS on this video: “In light of available evidence, gender reassignment of minors is an expenmental practice. Based on the studies examining gender identity in minors, hormonal interventions may be considered before reaching adulthood in those with firmly established transgender identities, but it must be done with a great deal of caution, and no irreversible treatment should be initiated. Information about the potential harms of hormone therapies is accumulating slowly and is not systematically reported. It is critical to obtain information on the benefits and risks of these treatments in rigorous research settings.” -Finland’s Council for Choices in Health Care and the Finnish Health Authority (PALKO/COHERE) new recommendations _(Medical Treatment Methods for Dysphoria Related to Gender Variance In Minors,_ 2020)

[@Silverburstnelson]

I'm beginning to love John. He absolutely takes ZERO shit. Had this lady fuming and it was fucking glorious. Keep on rockin John.

[@youtubeuser-rt3bq]

The Teacher came into class and homework will be checked! Watching the government stooge squirm, priceless. Watching the head tick, even lovelier. THX Jon 👍

[@hippo2710]

One thing I love about Jon is that he doesn't beat around the bush and went straight for the heart and mind. This short 6 minutes feels like an hour condensed with info.

[@aarongerdts216]

He did the same thing she did... bold claims no data LOL

[@Vic2point0]

@@aarongerdts216 Exactly.

[@Cactus270]

@@aarongerdts216 uhm he has the data. GOP scum

[@Vocalworship]

​@@aarongerdts216 You clearly weren't listening. He's citing the American Medical Association, the American Association of Pediatrics, and the Endocrine Society. All three are large, peer-reviewed medical associations, and their views on gender-affirming care can be easily read through a basic google search.

[@dadani69]

@@aarongerdts216 dude, everything will be bold and without data for you because it doesn't matter what source anyone quotes, if it doesn't go along with you, you don't care. Just say the slur, be transphobic and move fucking on already, quit the mind gymnastics

[@nighthawkcof]

Jon Stewart for president!

[@tsvetahristova1006]

He just obliterated her. This is what it looks like ACTUALLY confronting politicians face to face about their BS. Asking real questions and not letting them get away with anything. Thank you John Stewart for reminding us what real journalism should look like. That is so refreshing!

[@KLW50ish]

So depressing to know that this person is involved in lawmaking about the livelihood of children yet cant shed light on a shred of evidence that points to any of her claims. Then apologizes for being grossly unprepared, cause how would she know any questions were coming her way 😮😢 Bless her heart. Thank you so much Jon for continuing to point out the deplorable people that take taxpayers money and piss it away on ignorance over facts and proven science.

[@wiljaxbrantley342]

"give the kids all the candy they want" same argument.

[@at8630]

More drugs for life for the kids, more therapy, more surgeries, more side effects. No wonder the suicide rate for trans people are many times higher than the general population.

[@OneAdam12Adam]

Well written.

[@healinspaces4u]

Well said!!

[@CassVanCat]

Depressing she has children.

[@rorycollin4185]

"These are irreversible decisions these children are making" but suicide isn't?

[@joycej9415]

And hormone blockers are not irreversible. It is really the perfect thing just like all those experts he stated recommend.

[@sophiepooks2174]

@@joycej9415 They have been used since the 1950's for early onset puberty conditions and well tested, the side effects are well known and would be stated, before prescribed to the parent(s) guardians.

[@joycej9415]

@Sophie Pooks thanks that is what I thought. I myself was on hormone replacement for 30 years because I had to have a hysterectomy at very young age. I had no bad effects.

[@sharpaycutie2]

@@joycej9415 they do emtionally damage to a kid and physiological. Stop it

[@Numinus1]

Is there any data whatsoever about how many kids don't think they fit into "traditional gender roles"...or whatever it is you Americans call them? I'm genuinely asking, cuz I've been to most of the world, and I've never seen or heard of anything like this elsewhere

[@catwaffles9960]

Thank god he's back, it always feels so hopeless but I feel this on the inside deeply The disgust on his face and voice, the frustration and anger, this is what I've had to keep pushing down for all these years, I'm so tired of this, I just want to fucking exist

[@Snor947g]

i hate the 'irreversible change' argument, taking puberty blockers is completely reversible, what's not reversible is going thru the wrong puberty

[@killhomophobes11]

exactly thank you for being the voice of reason. people are so terribly dishonest sometimes

[@DiegoMartinez-mf8dy]

except its not reversible

[@Snor947g]

@@DiegoMartinez-mf8dy do some research

[@JamieNoah638]

​@@DiegoMartinez-mf8dy puberty blockers are in fact reversible. If you're talking about potential side effects, that only happen in specific cases, they have to be brought to attention before going through with the treatment. Like it is with everything. Doctors always have to talk about potential side effects so that the patient can make an informed decision.

[@0astral.atlas032]

@@mads4118that’s your opinion. Not fact, the actual scientific evidence is very clear that puberty blockers are reversible.

[@mena376]

2:46 Jon: What you're saying is 'You can't'... Governor: No, that's not at all what the state said the state simply said that 'You can not...'

[@Derrythe01]

Rookie mistake really, An Arkansas legislator could never use contractions. Anything that sounds like it's related to female reproduction scares them.

[@BrightS0l]

@@Derrythe01 good god this is hilarious hahaha

[@landonian1223]

@@Derrythe01 lol wtf never heard this joke

[@allhandsondik7803]

@@Derrythe01 fucking incredible XD

[@AngeloBarovierSD]

@@Derrythe01 What writers room are you from and where can I watch your show?

[@dustcircle]

What I hear: "I'm sorry I knew about this interview far in advance and still didn't prepare to answer the questions you sent us beforehand."

[@5teveV]

Thank you Mr Stewart for doing what no one else has the balls to do! Jon should be doing this on prime time television every day of the week!

[@wiljaxbrantley342]

"give the kids all the candy they want" same argument. my balls are hue..mungus

[@BnMProductions11]

The fact that shes capable of making laws in office without being able to list one specific medical organization that corroborated her proposal should immediately have her removed from office. The world is fucked that a politician can be this openly incompetent and now be removed.

[@djchambliss6561]

I lost it when Jon used the "you make it seem like a 9-year-old is going to a hospital demanding testosterone" statement 😂😂😂😂 and she got in her feels when she said, " I wasn't prepared to have a Supreme Court argument". Like girl these laws you passing aren't even all about the children and she knows it.

[@skumflum3768]

And Chloe Cole

[@curtisowen3233]

It has absolutely nothing to do with children, it is solely based on her zealot religious beliefs. What science and medicine says does not matter to her, all that matters is enforcing her and her religious communities interpretation of an old silly book of myth. And forcing down the throats of everyone who lives in what she undoubtedly believes should be a Christian theocracy.

[@skumflum3768]

@@curtisowen3233 maybe she have motives but the concerns are still valid. Look, Sweden has stopped medical treatment on minors because they have realized that we may be going through a psychogenic epidemic. 1500% increase in rapid onset dysphasia in teenage girls since 2008 should be concerning

[@curtisowen3233]

@@skumflum3768 certainly there can be medical "fads" where over prescription of medicine or treatments will be over done. The way over prescription of Ritalin and other amphetamine salts during the 1990s for example, and the over prescription of opioids. More than anything this stems from financial kickbacks doctors receive for prescribing as much as possible. This is solely a problem in the structure of our Healthcare systems. And do doctors make the wrong choices sometimes? Absolutely. But to say there is an epidemic of children being pressured into treatments that they choose to do and later regret is a lie. They are the exception and not the rule. But this minority is used as a tool to push the ultimately religious agenda to do away completely with a young persons access to important care. On the political level they are throwing out the baby with the bathwater, when, as Jon says, these decisions are solely between children and their doctors. The science is in, doing away with all treatment until adulthood will do far more damage than the minority that jump the gun being confused teenagers. But again, the confused child or teenagers business is not the states business. Why aren't they passing the same laws to prohibit circumcision? Circumcision is genital mutilation that children don't agree to and is put upon them. Many of which come to regret, and claim to have their sex lives ruined by the procedure. But MOST don't. I myself wasn't circumcised till I was 6. It was horrible, don't regret it one bit! But if I did regret it and you can certainly find "experts" to speak out against it, does that give the state the right to ban the practice all together until you turn 18? Or does circumcision have special protection having Judeu-christian roots? No, people will kid themselves that it's "to protect the children!", but the motivation is religious. And these people haven't the faintest idea what they're talking about. You can tell they've never knowingly met a single passing trans person in their lives! They make it obvious when they pass incredibly stupid things like "bathroom bills"! 😂 do you realize what extreme uproar there will be by these fearful bigots when fully bearded manly people, born female, start walking into women's bathrooms looking more like men than their own husbands. And how many fully passing females, born men, with a rack larger than your mothers will be taking a dump next to you!? It becomes so obvious, all these people know of these other humans lives is fed to them through the sick mouth of their pastors, and conservative talking heads. Its not about the children... Over 10,000 children die A DAY, due to easily preventable causes world wide. But no, the real tragedy is a few money grubbing doctors going along with a confused kids wishes, and later on regretting it. Boo hoo, let's just make it all illegal!!! As for kids who it saves? Ignore them, they're sinners! But precede to chop off the tip of that new born baby! Millions of whom will come to resent you for it, but hey, hygiene and Abraham yo!

[@skumflum3768]

@@curtisowen3233 There is much to discuss in this context. It is evident that individuals, including politicians, may be driven by personal motives and religious beliefs. However, the only viable approach to organizing our society is through the exercise of free speech. Freedom of speech is not a mere philosophical notion; instead, it is a crucial instrument for preserving the cohesion and stability of our thoughts and societies. Currently, there is a trend towards restricting the questioning of transgender ideology, which itself is an ideology, resulting in conflicts. Regarding the medical facts, there are no long-term studies available on the effects of puberty blockers in transgender adolescents. While there have been studies on hormones, they are not without significant and potentially permanent side effects. It is worth noting the existence of psychogenic contagions, which have a documented history spanning 400 years. Several recent examples include the Satanic daycare ritual panic in the 1980s, as well as the spread of cutting and bulimia among white teenage girls in schools. Considering the statistics on rapid-onset gender dysphoria, there has been a 1500% increase, primarily among white teenage girls. As teenage girls have historically been most susceptible to psychogenic contagion, this could be a plausible explanation. Research, as previously mentioned, shows that 80% of individuals experiencing gender dysphoria eventually desist without intervention, which is why Sweden has ceased medical treatment for minors. This topic undoubtedly warrants further discussion. It is not fair to label people as hypocritical for prioritizing this issue over the deaths of thousands of children due to other causes. Human nature does not allow us to empathize equally with every issue. As Stalin allegedly remarked, "One death is a tragedy, but a million is just a statistic."

[@ChrisLongPhoneRepair]

I wish I could have argued with my professors when they asked where my citing was in my papers and who I was siting. "I was not prepared for a supreme court argument for my homework, so let it go Teach"

[@82abhilash]

You are comparing the interview between a clown and a lawyer to an interaction at a place of learning between a student and a professor?

[@gotzmadskittlez3406]

@@82abhilash Are you saying that the expectations of the AG of an entire state should be less than a student in a place of learning? The only clown here is you.

[@82abhilash]

@@gotzmadskittlez3406 Are you putting your words into my mouth to that you can you address what you pretend I said instead of what I actually said? It must help with the grooming.

[@gotzmadskittlez3406]

@@82abhilash What do you mean "what you actually said"? You didn't say jack shit. All you did was give one of the most powerful people of the state an excuse as to why she can't back up her claims with any actual evidence, because you're just a bunch of bootlicking authoritarians.

[@karinaz8756]

@@82abhilash YOU are comparing this interview between that between a student and a professor. A professor expects you to be able to cite your sources and back up your positions. If you want to compare the two- what’s your point. Right wing America thinks the entire country is a Fox News studio where you spout bs propaganda unchallenged. Did she think that she was going to get the floor to tout the lies she pulled out of the farthest corner of her ass and Jon was going to sit there? Really dumb on her part don’t you think?

[@thuraya53]

Jon systematically takes these people apart. Just masterclass.

[@Mickey-1994]

Jon was debating a lady that wasn't very good but he's wrong and common sense is not on his side here.

[@lankadominions959]

Good to see Jon back on the right side of history. There was one (possible) lie he didn't pick up on. If the lady was referring to blockers, they are categorically NOT irreversible.

[@ProkofNY]

How is it “the right side of history” to lie to the public about the true nature of these interventions?

[@Bareq_99]

​@@ProkofNYwhat jon said is the true nature of these interventions And the regret rates show it A study last year came out about a follow up for trans people after they got bottom surgery after 5 years The regret rate is 0.3% Thats THE lowest regret rate in the entire medical field (for extra context, second lowest is knee replacement surgery sitting at ~13%.. that's how big the difference is yet yall only compalin about trans people you absolute creeps

[@makokx7063]

@@Bareq_99 Did you read the research? I didn't so I can't say anything one way or the other but after years of reading research papers on various topics many of them are extremely misleading. I could easily see people doing things like making the regret rate low by manipulating the language by saying something like anyone who regretted it weren't really transgender hence the numbers aren't included. Maybe that isn't the case but you have actually read the research to know 100% that there's no funny business.

[@Bareq_99]

@@makokx7063 i have read it mulriple damn tines, multiple articles on it too There is no "funny business" And you are free to read it by just googling "transgender regret rate 0.3%"

[@ProkofNY]

@@Bareq_99 And yet, when it comes to minors, all systematic reviews-the gold standard of scientific evidence for guiding medical recommendations-have concluded that the evidence for pediatric gender affirmation is lacking (of “low to very low” certainty/quality as concluded in these reviews). As far as children/adolescents go, the scientific literature does not actually show, with any reasonable degree of certainty, that the use of puberty blockers or cross sex hormones decreases rates of negative mental health outcomes; the risk factors associated with these are not properly reported; and data on the long-term outcomes for this population is not accurately tracked. Not only do we have the findings of the systematic reviews (look at the Nice reviews linked in the Cass Interim report website or Ludvingsson et al., 2021) we also have the WHO coming out just a few weeks ago with a Q&A addressing their upcoming guideline for transgender people: question no. 5 “Q. Why will the guideline only cover adults and not also children or adolescents? A. The scope will cover adults only and not address the needs of children and adolescents, because on review, the evidence base for children and adolescents is limited and variable regarding the longer-term outcomes of gender affirming care for children and adolescents.” The WPATH itself failed to commission a systematic review to back its recommendations for minors citing a lack of studies. My question to you is, if the evidence for pediatric gender affirmation remains lacking/limited/uncertain, why is it that some media sources call it “life saving” (when the benefits remain unclear), “medically necessary” (when the risk factors and long term outcomes of patients remain unknown), or “settled science” (when the most empirically rigorous studies on the topic directly contradict this claim)? Things are no adding up.

[@seancastello8593]

It's always convenient that they forget the organizations off the top of their heads but use it as the reason for making these decisions.

[@azmidlyf]

So funny how the foundation of their stance seems to be so unimportant in her facts.

[@ran0427]

literally couldn't back up anything she said, just kept saying, "its for the children". this is all the republican party has, phrases and hate

[@atlasfeynman1039]

Agreed. I would have thought the AG should be able to cite her sources.

[@GrayGuard]

@@atlasfeynman1039 No, that's just for the big leagues. No way she has to prepare for little people.

[@fumarc4501]

She’s not prepared, about something she’s so “passionate” about… no, I don’t buy that. If you’re really passionate about something, you can answer questions about it beyond deflection and scapegoating.

[@SarahMaywalt]

I wish when I was a kid that I had people like you, in the public eye, fighting for me. Maybe I wouldn't have internalized the feeling of society that I was fundamentally wrong. I am glad, though, that the kids of today do have you fighting for them.

[@mattpowell6291]

He's not transgender though. It would be far better if people who transgendered spoke on this topic rather than a "comedian".

[@rainyprac]

@@mattpowell6291 you think trans people don't speak on this topic? lmfao how to say "I don't know any trans people" without actually saying it. We scream it at the top of our lungs every day, it's just nice Jon is using his platform to reach more people.

[@mattpowell6291]

@@rainyprac I'm not saying they don't but he is not an authority on the subject. Transitioning is a big and irreversable deal, a decision which shouldn't be made by kids and teens. Their brains aren't formed well enough to make rational decisions. No doubt kids going through this confusion need lots of support through services and the community but making that decision to transition should be made when they are old enough to understand the consequences of their decision.

[@ebf1003]

@@mattpowell6291 straw man argument

[@mattpowell6291]

@@ebf1003 Yeah that might be the case. I still don't believe that kids should make an irreversable decision about their gender when they are not mature enough to make it logically. I do think they need lots of support and community arpund them and when they ARE old enough to make the decision to transition then that's up to them

[@enriquehirshfeltikov2395]

Man Jon, if you see this id love to just have a 30 min conversation on wtf is wrong with how common sense went sideways in the last 40 years.

[@coreytoomey7579]

This video ages so badly the more time goes by. I love it.

[@fandomweebsvsmemes9803]

wdym?

[@andrewphilips2457]

@@fandomweebsvsmemes9803 More logical minds are questioning this insane stance of thinking kids with mental illness have the capacity to make the life altering decision of self castration before puberty.

[@food_vortex5452]

@@andrewphilips2457 if its so logical then why is nobody citing any evidence for their claims?

[@IdkIdk-pv1mx]

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the reason there’s a shortage of physicians in Arkansas.

[@ProfessorTravis]

As someone who takes care of aging parents in Arkansas, I can confirm this comment. Not only is there a shortage but there is a definite lack of expertise. You have to pay very close attention to who your doctors are.

[@jl8942]

You get the medical services and goods you can afford. Arkansas is a poor state, they can not afford quality medical services and goods. Capitalism 101.

[@User-54631]

@@jl8942 do you have a specific example of treatment available in like Ca that is not in Arkansas? Not talking about medical trials and experimental treatments. I mean established medical procedures.

[@bigbengamer]

@@jl8942 UAMS and CARTI are perhaps the most advanced places for heart health care in the country. Arguably some of the best cardiac healthcare in the world takes place in your capital city. Also, I've been to UAMS. It rivals many college campuses in size, stadiums and all. And I understand it's only gotten way bigger ever since.

[@jl8942]

@@User-54631 of course there are hospitals and facilities that provide advanced treatments in all major cities, in all states, but only if you can afford it.

[@TheDBrigner]

"...I apologize that I wasn't prepared to have a supreme court argument today in front of you..." Ma'am...you walked into a room with Jon Stewart...

[@Gardy725]

It’s a shame that we live in a society that doesn’t allow people to be themselves until they grow into adults.

[@ProkofNY]

You don’t need medical I interventions in order to be yourself. How did we go so quickly from “born this way” to “born in the wrong body”?

[@CharityApple07]

@@ProkofNY For some people, they do. Kids can't get irreversible medical care, but they can consult with psychologists/psychiatrists who specialize in gender dysphoria and treatment for it. I'd say that still counts as medical care. Also, the "born in the wrong body" thing is just a _MASSIVE_ oversimplification of how gender dysphoria feels. It's more like something on the outside is wrong and doesn't match the inside, not that your entire body is wrong.

[@sovietninja3]

​@@ProkofNYsexual orientation is not a medical condition, where as gender dysphoria is. At least that's how I understand the difference.

[@ProkofNY]

@@CharityApple07 You are not getting the whole story here, which is very frustrating. The WPATH, AAP, and the Endocrine Society (along with the other profesional bodies advocating for these interventions) have not conducted systematic reviews on the topic of pediatric gender medicine to back their recommendations. The countries that have (Finland, Sweden, and the UK) have concluded that the risk factors for these interventions remain largely unknown and are not being systematically reported. These reviews have also highlight the lack of data collection when it comes to patient outcomes, including rates of detransition and regret. These are not fringe and/or right wing political groups expressing concerns. Are you familiar with what happened in what was once the world’s largest pediatric gender clinic? The NHS commissioned an independent review following a 4000% increase in referrals to the clinic (i.e., the Tavistock’s GIDS) and in light of the concerns of several whistleblowers. The whistleblowers’ concerns regarding the managing of the clinic and its “affirmative model” (rushed assessments, lack of data collection, lack of safeguards, diagnostic overshadowing) were then corroborated by an independent panel of experts. Further, the review’s interim report (which also bases its information on two systematic reviews on pediatric gender affirmation) concluded that there is at the moment no way for professionals and clinicians to distinguish which patients will benefit from these interventions versus those who will not. Bear in mind the crucial fact that the original Dutch study (which introduced the use of blockers for the treatment of GD), used a very small and selective sample of minors without any preexisting MH comorbidities and whose Sx began prior to the onset of puberty. These sample is not at all representative of many of the patients currently being prescribed PB. Not only that, the Cass interim report also asserts that the benefits of these interventions remain uncertain even for patients whose profile closely resembles the Dutch cohort (i.e., childhood onset, no coexisting psychopathology). The NHS no longer prescribes PB outside of clinical research settings. Why do you think people do not hear about this part of the story? After all, this pertains to the NHS and to what used to be the largest pediatric gender clinic.

[@ProkofNY]

@@sovietninja3that is true, yet there is a push on behalf of activist groups for “trans depathologization.” Likewise, as many European countries cut back on these interventions for minors, activist groups here in the US seem to be pushing things in the opposite direction. They claim “the science is settled” and that no debate is necessary. Yet, if you focus on be empirical evidence you will realize that these interventions do not meet the criteria for evidence based medicine.

[@goodmourningmoon4163]

I love how ppl from this political stance say "don't tread on me government, freedom!!" and then take away the rights of other ppl LOL

[@anibalvalente3017]

Jon proves his point very respectfuly and he's a comedian. Jon makes USA journalists look like idiots.

[@aaronjmet]

most comedians make journalist look bad, or at least reporters

[@anthonytwohill9726]

He made this elected official look like an idiot too.

[@craigraboteau7024]

He’s not being respectful. He keeps interrupting her. Regardless of who you agree with in this argument, he’s not being respectful at all. I was actually pretty disappointed because I think he’s generally great. I haven’t watched him in a long time, but have always had a positive opinion of him. This, to me, wasn’t a good look for him

[@kr13100]

@@craigraboteau7024 I think it’s ok to interrupt when someone is regurgitating talking points from a playbook. And he did give her the floor to point to the scientific evidence and what did she have to say *crickets*

[@danwoz]

@@craigraboteau7024 it isn't disrespectful to interrupt someone making unsubstantiated claims and reinforcing falsehoods by asking them to cite their sources or explain the reasoning for their actions. Especially if they're avoiding the questions and responding in platitudes.

[@ellieporter3270]

This is incredible. As a trans woman, rarely have I ever felt more seen. These people claim they are trying to protect trans children when all they’re doing is hurting and killing them because of something they refuse to understand. As someone who has struggled with mental health, I don’t think I would be here today if I was denied my gender affirming care. I want to extend my deepest thanks to Jon and his team for shining a light on these issues and doing such a good job at it. Protect Trans Kids.

[@skinnie2838]

John Stewart has become a woke disaster and a liar. He supports little kids ruining their lives for forever because if he doesnt he knows the mob will turn on him. Gotta unsub to this guy finally. Oops did I just ASSUME his gender? IDGAF. What a disaster.

[@spacebunsarah]

Hell yeah girl 💖

[@fortunateeventswillhappent1080]

hell yeah trans right!!

[@benwoodard6851]

Please know that there are many of us in this country that support you and find people like this politician to be disgusting. I hope you have found joy and love in your life.

[@AvaValComedy]

❤❤️❤️❤️

[@rykerpercival8931]

The hypocrisy is unbelievable.

[@Deanriley]

Jon has the smarts and the balls to go up against these jerks. Jon Stewart would be a great POTUS.

[@carlkaufman2429]

Fabulous interview style. Calm and relentless. She didn't know what medical organization she's relying on? Nothing more to say. Their decision was made long before any hearings.

[@michaeltherrien6006]

Thei decision was based on emotion, not science.

[@eeguy77]

She knows, she was dodging because she knows her "experts" are all shams and grifters.

[@anybody2501]

She's relying on common sense. The idea that the way to resolve a problem that exists in the mind is to make permanent surgical alterations to the body is completely absurd. There's a reason why these gender clinics are slowly being shut down in other parts of the world.

[@LegitSav]

I can't imagine citing someone and not knowing what the source is lmao

[@JH-vy7uy]

Shadow banned replies here

[@jeanniep1003]

I can’t believe this woman is a lawyer, let alone a State Attorney General, she’s just the typical GOP talking head and she made a fool of herself. Jon, you’ve outdone yourself once again and I’m so excited for Season 2!

[@timowayne6993]

Again, not all doctors agree with this medical experiment on children. I'm not conservative but you have to open your eyes. Watch some documentaries from Sweden.

[@atlasfeynman1039]

Speaking of typical talking head...

[@CaptainScarfish]

@@atlasfeynman1039 Jon made a well-reasoned, rational argument backed up by science and facts. All Leslie could do was cite fringe opinions and say for the children for the children for the children

[@thejake8099]

She happens because people don't vote.

[@nh251]

Comparing transgender to cancer really isn't outdoing himself, it's actually an extremely shitty argument. I love Jon too, I've watched him since I was 14, I just don't agree with the mutilation of children, physical or hormonal.

[@Georgemanuel57]

Jon comes with Logic and facts no sugar coat which is almost non existent in mainstream news. All these people pushing social war issues cannot handle being faced with non nonsense facts

[@ProkofNY]

Read the findings of the Swedish, Finnish and UK systematic reviews on GAC for minors.

[@mrb152]

He doesn't. Nothing justifies transitioning children and all of the "medical guidelines" he talks about come from literal activist organizations like WPATH. It's like saying "how can you say guns are bad when the NRA says guns are good".

[@Mickey-1994]

LOL, Jon came with smugness and propaganda against a woman that can't debate.

[@ajpiemin]

Thank you.

[@robertblackwell1350]

That seemed like it hurt a lot. I love how calm Stewart stayed, if I had asked someone the same question that many times and they couldn’t answer I probably would have said something rude.

[@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing]

Like watching a sword master patiently pull his blows and strike with the flat of the blade, wasting his time trying to get through to a hopeless student.

[@tracyt666]

It was like a very patient parent trying to talk to an unreasonable child. (More patient than I could be.)

[@megspositiveoutlook5772]

@@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing the good thing is, even if the hopeless student will never see the light, everyone watching the master is learning the lesson too.

[@eponymousIme]

>>That seemed like it hurt a lot. I love how calm Stewart stayed, if I had asked someone the same question that many times and they couldn’t answer I probably would have said something rude..

[@harrypalmer907]

@@megspositiveoutlook5772 Learning how to be a dishonest activist.

[@phreak074]

I love presenting the failure in someone's logic and watching them scramble to try and explain it.

[@brendan904]

Right, whereas the logic that drugging kids because nature made a mistake and they feel like the other sex is perfectly logical 😉

[@jph4852]

Jon is a pro at making his interview subjects squirm. He's better than many seasoned news folk.

[@aliciageary7653]

It's almost entirely the only way I argue. It's so satisfying.

[@kentuky1233]

So the logic would be that a man can become a woman. Huh.

[@tuffkay7864]

@@kentuky1233 well more accurately we were never men in the first place, but everyone has their own personal relationship to gender and its best to respect each other

[@_mil0__]

This is what they do, and we still act surprised

[@stephanzenz5054]

Nobody slays BS like Jon. Thank you, you national treasure!

[@clintholmes2061]

"Nobody slays BS like Jon." Isn't he that guy who gave a neonazi an award and never apologized for it?

[@clintholmes2061]

@Roscoe Aryeh "never heard of this" That's understandable seeing as how jon doesn't have the decency to admit it much less apologize for it. "Explain" KZbin video titled, "Jon Stewart Presents Medal To Ukrainian Nazi At Disney World." You can skip the first minute.

[@nh251]

Agreed, Jon is an overall positive for the world. I just can't get behind the idea of child genital mutilation for any reason, including circumcision.

[@stephanzenz5054]

@@nh251 I am not 'behind' abortion but I'll fight for the right of women to choose.

[@billweaver9982]

Ha. Matt Walsh would destroy this woke wuss.

[@Destinysproblemchild]

I really think it's hilarious when they mention protecting children's childhoods and let them be children but, child marriage is legal in 44 states and in some areas, children as young as 12 can be married, with parental consent. So, if they are old enough to get married, why aren't they old enough to decide this? I just think the hypocrisy is really rich.

[@clairestjacques]

Cuz marriage is eminently reversible, I guess... /s

[@richardrafuls7907]

That is disgusting too, let kids be kids

[@infinitude7625]

this is the only comment that widely projects sanity here. You are right. Indeed hypocoristic. Both should not be legal simply that a child cannot consent. Both are evil so not okay.

[@mickeydougal]

Marriage can be ended. Cut your junk off, and it’s forever.

[@TheSands83]

N how often does that happen?

[@zokkoop1]

Like a teacher talking to the kid who didnt do her homework

[@nyerineu3388]

'peer review' .....Ms Rutledge has no clue. Mr. Stewart Spot on!

[@thegazetteyt]

Her translation for this is, "The 'second opinion" I'm forcing you to get is the one that agrees with me."

[@chriscox5831]

When she referred to this very straightforward interview as a "Supreme Court" argument, I couldn't help but momentarily flash to Jon in a robe alongside Samuel Alito, Gorsuch, Thomas, etc. quashing their hollow arguments. The kind of elevated thinking and reasoned approach he brings to this is outstanding. This woman isn't even in the stadium with him. She's at a tailgate party in the parking lot unaware whose playing or perhaps even what the sport is.

[@CortexNewsService]

When she said that, I actually said out loud "You knew who you were gonna be doing the interview with!" He ain't just funny jokes. He took on the US Senate and WON.

[@MrZer093]

Lady is so used to everyone around her agreeing with her that she wasn’t prepared for anyone to disagree!

[@JeffLemmon-kh4nm]

Thank you!

[@BDOcrispy]

She should fire whoever let her subject herself to that level of accountability. That's not what government is about!

[@kenjiedavis5238]

This. . . . This right here. . . . is why we LOVE Jon Stewart!

[@ckeelz825]

I wouldn’t consider that something to be proud sharing

[@keaering5183]

@@ckeelz825 well your wrong so to each his own I guess.

[@princeandrey]

@@ckeelz825 Really? I would!

[@harrypalmer907]

yes, you love him because you derive pleasure from him dishonestly trying to humiliate people.

[@itcouldbelupus2842]

@@harrypalmer907 he isn't being the least bit dishonest

[@ameliecarre4783]

It's extremely refreshing to see an interview where the interviewer got informed of the issue before, is capable to fact check live, and allows himself to calmly say "well that's bullcrap what you just said, ma'am, could you correct or justify yourself ?" I think it's the way it should always be but unfortunately that's not what I'm used to.

[@barbarasimons3762]

It's still what you're used to as his perspective is wrong. He can't be able to "fact check" as the side he is advocating for doesn't have facts.

[@ameliecarre4783]

@@barbarasimons3762 Sure sure, tell yourself that, you wouldn't want to overtire your poor head.

[@barbarasimons3762]

@@ameliecarre4783 😂😂😂😂 Deny facts if you wish. That's you're choice. It'll catch up with you soon enough. Enjoy your fantasy land for a short while longer.

[@gohnjoodman2546]

@@barbarasimons3762 Your hard on for transphobia is like tungstan steel isn't it bro?

[@barbarasimons3762]

@@gohnjoodman2546 Actually it's a hard on for the truth, hence no hard on for Transphobia as there is no such thing.

[@tempestcrane8712]

God I love John Stewart

[@wilburrwould2170]

Go Go Senator John stay well

[@kamenridergnostikos4084]

I love his face shortly after the first minute when she says 98% of children with gender dysphoria grow out of it. He looks like he's really surprised at the figure, and ready to hear more and take her position seriously... and then just pops out with "Wow! That's an INCREDIBLY made up figure." And she just replies with this blank face like... uhh...

[@adamvanderriet9669]

Sure thing... NOT! kzbin.info/www/bejne/jaWUfniOmsySi8U

[@martinhorner642]

It's hard to overstate how effective not accepting bs actually is to maintaining the health of a society. And we are at the point where that is abysmally unusual.

[@carmelmulroy6459]

Yeah it's dumb. She's an idiot for not having studies on hand. The real figure is something like 80-90%. The other 10% that don't desist continue to have problems even if they do get surgeries etc. But they are generally adults at that stage and this bill is about children.

[@blackdove5940]

It's an incredibly made up figure when it disagrees with Jon's opinion . Lemme guess , you didn't fact check it either.

[@carmelmulroy6459]

You can fact check it yourself. I got the number from a pediatric medical book. They have known about people growing out of gender dysphoria since the 70s. Maybe you should do some research on John Money and what puberty blockers can do to children. Judith Butler said herself that queer theory is about breaking down sex boundaries including the boundaries between adult and child. Even the trans flag was designed by a pedophile.

[@SouthernArtist77]

She has no qualifications, remember, she was fired from The Department of Health and Human services. I might add that it’s not that easy to get fired there because they’re constantly short staffed! If you’re in Arkansas, please vote her out! Thank you so much Jon for taking the time to do this interview.

[@ZipplyZane]

For the record, voting her out is not what Arkansans need to do. She's not running for State Attorney General this time. She's running for Lieutenant Governor. So it's more don't let her move on up.

[@BrentReader1]

Yep. Chronic job hopper since law school and fired "do not rehire" from the only important legal job she's ever held.

[@teemuvesala9575]

Fired probably for political reasons cause some democrat rats wanted their communist fellows in her stead.

[@johnjames2470]

Artistic: So the Department of Health holds some magical power for you? Did you know that the Head of the FDA, and second after him, resigned in protest when the FDA gave the approval for vaccine boosters, without any data to back up it efficacy? Of course you don't, because Jon Stewart is your go-to-guy on medical procedures. Let me guess, you are on your fourth booster by now?

[@shynickel8239]

Jon,.. run for president, please,...make sanity great again.

[@balla2172]

Jon is one of the BEST interviewers of politicians of all time he pulls the gloves off asks the hard questions and forces them to answer

[@chadhumbert1791]

Thank you Jon Stewart for holding her accountable for her BS and not letting up