Interview with Senior Rust Developer in 2023

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Programmers are also human

Programmers are also human

Күн бұрын

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@miloszivkovic6256
@miloszivkovic6256 Жыл бұрын
"There are 5 games written in rust and 50 game engines" I am dying
@ghit2494
@ghit2494 Жыл бұрын
me too its too true
@Ztaticify
@Ztaticify Жыл бұрын
I felt that one
@kirillgimranov4943
@kirillgimranov4943 Жыл бұрын
that's so funny since only I have created more than 5 games in a pure Rust Seems like I'm the only creator of those 5 games the author mentioned
Жыл бұрын
Oh goodness, I can't stop laughing :D
@meanmole3212
@meanmole3212 Жыл бұрын
The best quote. My honest advice for people serious about Rust game devoplement: Forget about the engine solutions. They are unfinished and untested in large scale commercial productions. You will hit a wall easier as the needs of your game grow compared to Unreal / Unity. Instead, setup your own wgpu rendering and Rapier physics (if you need physics). There's nothing wrong in studying the engine solutions' specific parts such as bevy's skeletal animations, just keep the full control to yourself. It's more work and effort, but maybe if you are aiming for quick commercial game release, Rust is not the best language to develop with at the moment.
@datadrivendev
@datadrivendev Жыл бұрын
When I know nothing about a Programming language, I come to this channel to get a proper Introduction
@amanda.collaud
@amanda.collaud Жыл бұрын
bad idea !
@AvidLearner11
@AvidLearner11 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@sinekonata
@sinekonata Жыл бұрын
Gotta say it piqued my interest about Rust and it confirmed my intuitions about C#
@Yupppi
@Yupppi 10 ай бұрын
Actually really good take. If you learn the biggest pitfalls and struggles and think you can tolerate them, I don't think you're gonna mind the rest of the languages.
@leogama3422
@leogama3422 10 ай бұрын
so accurate
@rodrigoserafim8834
@rodrigoserafim8834 Жыл бұрын
"Throw all advantages from all languages, together. Now your code is unreadable. But it is safe." That should be the slogan for Rust.
@samuelec
@samuelec 8 ай бұрын
So true
@CleanCereals
@CleanCereals 7 ай бұрын
Ah man that made me actually laugh haha
@einargs
@einargs 7 ай бұрын
Let's be fair -- they avoided the messes of inheritance. Or ml modules. And they don't have higher kinded types (well, they have GATs which let you do the same thing).
@spaghettiking653
@spaghettiking653 7 ай бұрын
@@einargs Why would higher-kinded types be bad?
@RitoriqPrinciples
@RitoriqPrinciples 4 ай бұрын
"Who else needs to read this?" 🙂
@poochy661
@poochy661 Жыл бұрын
The unsafe macro being called trust_me had me dying
@terminallyonline5296
@terminallyonline5296 Жыл бұрын
5 games and 50 engines had me dying.
@shweddedglowy
@shweddedglowy Жыл бұрын
Haha, yeah, I was gonna say “you can’t spell trust without Rust.”
@CubbyBear-cn5kh
@CubbyBear-cn5kh Жыл бұрын
I'm just picturing an unsafe macro called trust_me_bro throwing yeets
@thedeemon
@thedeemon Жыл бұрын
In Idris there is a function believe_me : a -> b
@Turalcar
@Turalcar Жыл бұрын
"I'm not here to tell you that Rust is the best language. You should've figured by now"
@RustIsWinning
@RustIsWinning 9 күн бұрын
Fax 🦀
@_djukka
@_djukka Жыл бұрын
"And which part did you write in Rust? The frontend or the backend?" *visible confusion* "No the browser!" 😂
@julius333333
@julius333333 Жыл бұрын
and the operating system
@phil-l-tech
@phil-l-tech Жыл бұрын
**Turns around in panic** NO the browser!!!
@principleshipcoleoid8095
@principleshipcoleoid8095 Жыл бұрын
Firefox goes brrr
@bamideleemmanuel2036
@bamideleemmanuel2036 Жыл бұрын
This answer is goated 😂
@the-pink-hacker
@the-pink-hacker 7 ай бұрын
Servo be like
@kaikalii
@kaikalii Жыл бұрын
"So Iced is the best one?" "It's the most complete one." This is some of the most niche humor I've ever had the pleasure to be in on.
@Dominik3332
@Dominik3332 Жыл бұрын
"In Javascript you have to worry about memory because of Javascript" 🤣
@christopherdixon4472
@christopherdixon4472 Жыл бұрын
That one got me too
@blazehawkins2759
@blazehawkins2759 Жыл бұрын
Javascript - I love it!
@Madar2252
@Madar2252 Жыл бұрын
@@blazehawkins2759 I wouldn't recommend it
@sudiproy4413
@sudiproy4413 Жыл бұрын
​@@Madar2252 why? wait lemme guess. Because you use RUST to write wasm? 😂
@nopalfi1409
@nopalfi1409 Жыл бұрын
@@sudiproy4413 it's a reference from a video Interview with Senior JS Developer from this channel in case you didn't get the joke. Well, actually i wouldn't recommend it either
@JJ-rn9zl
@JJ-rn9zl Жыл бұрын
"In rust we are all geniuses" what a wonderful quote
@leshommesdupilly
@leshommesdupilly Жыл бұрын
…yet, they cannot handle a single pointer
@godnyx117
@godnyx117 Жыл бұрын
A wonderful yet a big lie.
@uwuLegacy
@uwuLegacy Жыл бұрын
@@leshommesdupillyC devs obviously can’t handle them either considering rust exists in the first place
@lime8738
@lime8738 Жыл бұрын
@@leshommesdupilly ?
@leshommesdupilly
@leshommesdupilly Жыл бұрын
@@uwuLegacy *the c devs that finally switch to rust
@zahash1045
@zahash1045 Жыл бұрын
Rust developers trying to rewrite their failing marriage in rust
@yt-1337
@yt-1337 Жыл бұрын
everybody knows it's failing cause of this damn memory management xD
@Primius80
@Primius80 Жыл бұрын
Why marry if you could just borrow instead?
@AnthonyDentinger
@AnthonyDentinger Жыл бұрын
They must be lacking tRust
@dmitriidemenev5258
@dmitriidemenev5258 Жыл бұрын
I tried it but for some reason my gf is not very happy about using the borrowing model for our relationships.
@rotteegher39
@rotteegher39 Жыл бұрын
yeet
@GreenFox1505
@GreenFox1505 Жыл бұрын
It's incredible to me how well you "get" the languages you parody. Like, it's clear you understand the inner culture and the most complex concepts of these languages.
@ninocraft1
@ninocraft1 11 ай бұрын
ye, wouldn't be half as good if it were jus surface level jokes
@shaunpatrick8345
@shaunpatrick8345 8 ай бұрын
He even got the hair right.
@RustIsWinning
@RustIsWinning 9 күн бұрын
Yall clueless deluxe. We are not like this. The Rust language is winning anyway 🦀
@barrettkepler7618
@barrettkepler7618 Жыл бұрын
I think that "Premieres in 10 days" is an allegory for how long rust build might take sometimes
@tanveerhasan2382
@tanveerhasan2382 Жыл бұрын
_Very allegorical_
@jimrustles4773
@jimrustles4773 Жыл бұрын
@@tanveerhasan2382 the sacred and the propane
@MantasJurkuvenas
@MantasJurkuvenas Жыл бұрын
Thredripper
@TheMohawkNinja
@TheMohawkNinja Жыл бұрын
Jeeez, is it just that unoptimized at the moment or what?
@dennieh7360
@dennieh7360 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMohawkNinja llvm optimisation pipeline for release builds takes ages and then for incremental builds the long part is always gonna be the linking step (you can substitute a better linker depending on platform, e.g. mold for linux) because most linkers we have are archaic monstrosities that dont parallelise well and that doesnt play nice with the deluge of object files rustc will spit out for incremental builds
@matthewdee6023
@matthewdee6023 Жыл бұрын
For those not getting the "write an operating system in three weeks" reference, Ken Thompson wrote the initial version of Unix in three weeks. One week for the kernel. One week for the file-system. One week for the shell. In assembly.
@masterchief1520
@masterchief1520 Жыл бұрын
Could you share any resources regarding that? I wanna take a look how feasible that is even for a prototype
@ericconnor8419
@ericconnor8419 Жыл бұрын
Not bad, but Terry Davis wrote one that could talk to God in 10 years.
@link99912
@link99912 Жыл бұрын
@@ericconnor8419 Lol, this is perfect satire of any video comment section regarding Temple OS.
@capncoolio
@capncoolio Жыл бұрын
Ken and Dennis were fucking legends though
@terraneaux
@terraneaux Жыл бұрын
They don't make 'em like that anymore.
@debasishraychawdhuri
@debasishraychawdhuri Жыл бұрын
"Is this the timer for the coffee?" "No I just finished compiling" LMAO
@arizona_iced_out_boy
@arizona_iced_out_boy Жыл бұрын
Honestly facts. I sometimes see rust analyzer spend 2 minutes trying to compile the entire repo and itll sometimes shit on PROC MACRO NOT FOUND. ALSO L LOSER I DONT KNOW WHAT THIS "SeRdE SeRiaLize and DeSerIaLizE" IS. Re run it. Teehee, i made an ooosie, ur code is fine don'r hate me uwu
@dawidd6356
@dawidd6356 Жыл бұрын
@@arizona_iced_out_boy Dont worry i spend 5 min compiling my java android application and spring boot services EACH
@debasishraychawdhuri
@debasishraychawdhuri Жыл бұрын
@@arizona_iced_out_boy the rust-analyzer compiles for a full hour compiling the substrate repo.
@joech1065
@joech1065 Жыл бұрын
I don't get that meme, because if you use a powerful enough machine compile times in Rust are not a problem. Even if the crate takes longer than you want to compile, you can just split it into smaller crates. Moreover, I have a project where both Rust and JS ecosystem is used, and producing a JS bundle takes like 10x more time than it takes to generate the WASM bundle part of it.
@yairmorgenstern416
@yairmorgenstern416 10 ай бұрын
Meanwhile in Python, the time saved by not compiling is paid in runtime and bug hunts 😢
@omdxp
@omdxp Жыл бұрын
"I have a macro for unsafe, it's called 'trust me'" 🤣 gets me every time
@yt-1337
@yt-1337 Жыл бұрын
trust_me!
@medilies
@medilies Жыл бұрын
Dz XD
@Morimea
@Morimea 6 ай бұрын
first what I had to do when tried Rust first time - is force unsafe because else multithreading communication with external hardware wont work so funny xD
@thegoldenatlas753
@thegoldenatlas753 5 ай бұрын
​@@Morimea Yea? External hardware is inherently unsafe.
@Morimea
@Morimea 5 ай бұрын
@@thegoldenatlas753 then what the point of Rust? Entire modern programming is - communicating with multiple devices in multiple threads and sync data.
@khatdubell
@khatdubell Жыл бұрын
"now your code is unreadable, but its memory safe"
@principleshipcoleoid8095
@principleshipcoleoid8095 Жыл бұрын
Tbf, wrap all of it in macros and it'll become more readable.
@khatdubell
@khatdubell Жыл бұрын
@@principleshipcoleoid8095 Someone at work actually does this. A macro for checking error results A macro for defining const values etc... I hate it.
@Jonas-Seiler
@Jonas-Seiler 7 ай бұрын
@@principleshipcoleoid8095 now you have to also know what weird magic the macro does
@RustIsWinning
@RustIsWinning 9 күн бұрын
​@@khatdubellis it memory safe tho?
@ZoltanTemesvari_temy
@ZoltanTemesvari_temy Жыл бұрын
“I let my threads panic…for pleasure” 😂
@jameskim7565
@jameskim7565 Жыл бұрын
- And which part did you write in Rust? The frontend or the backend? - "No the browser"
@zzzzzzz8473
@zzzzzzz8473 Жыл бұрын
" after a well managed , well-mannered discussion , that will make everyone unhappy " " im fully oxidized at this point " incredible video , such great specific examples
@JMurph2015
@JMurph2015 11 ай бұрын
We're on the same page that the "yeet" reference was about the "await" keyword discussion, right?
@olivierfaure5896
@olivierfaure5896 9 ай бұрын
@@JMurph2015 Nah, it was about *another* flamewar about what we should call the keyword for early-returning inside try-blocks, IIRC. Eventually the lang team decided "You know what, fuck it, let's call it the "yeet" keyword until we have a working implementation, that'll stop the bikeshedding". So now "yeet 64" is a valid Rust statement in nightly.
@profdc9501
@profdc9501 Жыл бұрын
I love the idea of a Rust compiler that tasers you when you make a mistake. That will teach you quickly!
@UnabashedOops
@UnabashedOops Жыл бұрын
Ded in 3 minutes
@blackmarvolo
@blackmarvolo Жыл бұрын
It wouldn't be too difficult to adapt cargo-vibe to do this...
@Deschutron
@Deschutron Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6fLnYKqhqaIZqM
@kaii-lb
@kaii-lb Жыл бұрын
@@blackmarvolo wheres the blteplug crate, but instead of sex toys you control a taser over bluetooth
@dorquemadagaming3938
@dorquemadagaming3938 Жыл бұрын
"Disadvantages? Rust thinks you can't keep object lifetimes in your head" - brilliant!🤣
@nibiruimagineering
@nibiruimagineering Жыл бұрын
"Lots of jobs for us, most are for startups to do some blockchain stuff.. and then go bankrupt" life is always on the razors edge when you are a Rust dev
@MasterSergius
@MasterSergius Жыл бұрын
We need "Interview with UI/UX designer"
@yacinehechmi6012
@yacinehechmi6012 Жыл бұрын
that would be interesting
@coldestbeer
@coldestbeer Жыл бұрын
Ligma
@mastershooter64
@mastershooter64 Жыл бұрын
@@coldestbeer Ligma mama! got em!
@charlieking7600
@charlieking7600 Жыл бұрын
Especially that one who constantly makes subtle changes in browser logotype. Separate one with GNOME designer (I personally hate them and would be glad to see satire about GNOME approach).
@NoNameAtAll2
@NoNameAtAll2 Жыл бұрын
those are two different people and UX people are screeming at everything UI ""design"" people come up with
@jm-alan
@jm-alan Жыл бұрын
We've come full circle from "we need to see the compiler as the enemy" to "we need to see the compiler as our friend"
@sumofat4994
@sumofat4994 Жыл бұрын
most languages compilers are your friend rust compiler is your frenemy
@rusi6219
@rusi6219 4 ай бұрын
A good compiler is your friend and so is a good debugger
@kristianmitk4976
@kristianmitk4976 Жыл бұрын
Damn, this wig for a Rust engineer already got me.
@gestaltengine6369
@gestaltengine6369 Жыл бұрын
Complements his blue eyes nicely
@lmaoiwaslikelmao1132
@lmaoiwaslikelmao1132 Жыл бұрын
@@gestaltengine6369 Facts it's the first thing I noticed and I like women
@blackmarvolo
@blackmarvolo Жыл бұрын
No programming gloves though
@heartache5742
@heartache5742 Жыл бұрын
now i can't unsee it why is he so attractive with it
@armynyus9123
@armynyus9123 Жыл бұрын
@@heartache5742 Looks like Brad Pit with it. Crazy.
@OmarKhirat
@OmarKhirat Жыл бұрын
This guy is secretly an immortal senior engineer who has seen it all and that's just his scream for help😂
@thephoenixsystem6765
@thephoenixsystem6765 Жыл бұрын
Kill me, and I will Rust.
@michaelvanstraten4390
@michaelvanstraten4390 Жыл бұрын
I am so hyped, i will sleep for the next 14 days straight.
@Adityarm.08
@Adityarm.08 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@Traisas
@Traisas 8 ай бұрын
lol
@aaaaanh
@aaaaanh Жыл бұрын
Should’ve donned a fabulous moustache and a hoodie and a pair of AKG headphones for a complete package
@TheRighteousDawn
@TheRighteousDawn Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the swiss exercise ball.
@blueberryiswar
@blueberryiswar Жыл бұрын
... hey I have an AKG Headphone
@poulet_malassis7607
@poulet_malassis7607 Жыл бұрын
@@blueberryiswar show me your homemade OS
@toddbeets
@toddbeets Жыл бұрын
"I am fully oxidized by now." Brilliant, thank you.
@fyasla
@fyasla Жыл бұрын
9:45 of Rust love and not saying "Blazingly fast" once is a performance
@henrycgs
@henrycgs Жыл бұрын
rust is blazingly typed
@PimpofChaos
@PimpofChaos Жыл бұрын
I shit you not, my old software manager, when comparing Rust and C compilation times, told us that "C's compilation is blazingly fast". That phrase stuck with me and now I feel like he was making an inner joke while trashing Rust in some aspect.
@RustIsWinning
@RustIsWinning 9 күн бұрын
​@@PimpofChaosC is blazingly fast in segfaults and 0days LOL
@DS-nv2ni
@DS-nv2ni Жыл бұрын
This is gold, every Rust developer should watch this as soon as they start thinking about learning Rust.
@nexus7c0
@nexus7c0 Жыл бұрын
Existence of Rust developers who have not yet started thinking about learning Rust is a testament to the power of the Rust language and its compiler.
@ollicron7397
@ollicron7397 Жыл бұрын
Theres like three youtubers I know that are criminally spreading their rust cultism.
@acertainnemesis
@acertainnemesis 10 ай бұрын
​@@ollicron7397I assume Mr No Boilerplate is a senior member?
@RustIsWinning
@RustIsWinning 9 күн бұрын
Video needs to be deleted
@zdzichukalafior8287
@zdzichukalafior8287 Жыл бұрын
We need one of these for sys admins. With just the right amount of passive aggresiveness towards users.
@elviskahoro
@elviskahoro Жыл бұрын
+1
@RicardoRebelo99
@RicardoRebelo99 Жыл бұрын
And active aggressivness towards devs. Lile kill -9 prod applications because of memory spikes
@MyAmazingUsername
@MyAmazingUsername Жыл бұрын
"I'm not here to tell you that Rust is the best language....... [silence]... you should have figured that out by now." 💘💘
@RustIsWinning
@RustIsWinning 9 күн бұрын
True 🦀
@talhaakram
@talhaakram Жыл бұрын
I have seen this 3 time. It is so well done, very high effort. Great job! Their are so many extremely funny jokes and the delivery is executed so well.
@theplaymakerno1
@theplaymakerno1 Жыл бұрын
It is one of his best videos. The Emacs one wasn't too funny!
@jrhutch4283
@jrhutch4283 Жыл бұрын
Dude, your videos are so good. Please do one for golang, and kubernetes!
@The_Ballo
@The_Ballo Жыл бұрын
golang devs have negative personality, though
@BrotherCheng
@BrotherCheng Жыл бұрын
I need a Kubernetes one! I have some PTSD from it.
@yavuz425
@yavuz425 Жыл бұрын
so much down the rabbithole, we need a devops one, azure one etc.
@camillelouedoc3799
@camillelouedoc3799 Жыл бұрын
The Kubernetes one would definitely kill me. I dream in YAML.
@johnychinese
@johnychinese Жыл бұрын
Tom is a genius
@torphedo6286
@torphedo6286 Жыл бұрын
true.
@luis10barbo
@luis10barbo Жыл бұрын
lmaoooooo
@noobtracker
@noobtracker Жыл бұрын
JDSL ftw
@mfinixone1417
@mfinixone1417 Жыл бұрын
He's a genius
@TheRighteousDawn
@TheRighteousDawn Жыл бұрын
Everyone send this to Prime until he watches it lol.
@riffrff
@riffrff Жыл бұрын
"I'm currently rewriting the color blue in rust" had me literally burst out in laughter
@SiddharthAgrawal-u2l
@SiddharthAgrawal-u2l Жыл бұрын
"testing in rust is easier... because we're all geniuses" I am still laughing 😂
@olivierfaure5896
@olivierfaure5896 9 ай бұрын
It's not *not* true, though.
@agrawal97siddharth
@agrawal97siddharth 9 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@olivierfaure5896😂
@elviskahoro
@elviskahoro Жыл бұрын
The speed at which this became one of my favorite channels is unparalleled.
@TheLetsComment
@TheLetsComment Жыл бұрын
"Not every dev learns Rust in a *lifetime* "
@frankiet-h992
@frankiet-h992 Жыл бұрын
😅 For real, the funniest line, apart from I joined a couple of start ups in this month or I wanted to compile my personality into a crate... actually too many lool
@RustIsWinning
@RustIsWinning 9 күн бұрын
Skill issue tbh
@1e1001
@1e1001 Жыл бұрын
"5 games and 50 game engines" so true (and i'm making one of them :)
@tui3264
@tui3264 Жыл бұрын
literally everyone are either making game engine or GUI library in Rust
@diadetediotedio6918
@diadetediotedio6918 Жыл бұрын
​@@tui3264 To be fair, this is also true for all the programming languages, the number of games you have is usually half the the number of game engines people tried to make and failed hahahahaha
@tui3264
@tui3264 Жыл бұрын
@@diadetediotedio6918 yeah it is easy to learn Graphics api by making game engine :p
@armynyus9123
@armynyus9123 Жыл бұрын
@@tui3264 right, when we are too stupid to dig into an existing api some of us tend to do that.
@aoeu256
@aoeu256 3 ай бұрын
@@diadetediotedio6918 I think its hard to build game engines in JS, so people only make games in it?
@NishantSingh-zx3cd
@NishantSingh-zx3cd Жыл бұрын
Petition to rewrite this interview in rust
@flaksoft8003
@flaksoft8003 Жыл бұрын
To rewrite rust... in rust
@shaunpatrick8345
@shaunpatrick8345 8 ай бұрын
​@@flaksoft8003they already did that. The first version of the compiler was written in OCaml.
@ericbwertz
@ericbwertz Жыл бұрын
Please invite a non-developer developer to the desk and have them (any of the genders) discuss why MATLAB is the greatest and most expensive language in existence. If you could present the pros and cons in a 1x1 matrix, that would be especially helpful.
@satyajeetjena6758
@satyajeetjena6758 Жыл бұрын
Shut up Hanque!
@nolanfaught6974
@nolanfaught6974 Жыл бұрын
I have a coworker that unironically believes MATLAB is the best language
@SoftBreadSoft
@SoftBreadSoft Жыл бұрын
The MATLAB language is public domain. The MATLAB program is proprietary. Programming languages can't be copyrighted or licensed, they are all 100% public domain.
@CodaRyu
@CodaRyu Жыл бұрын
*proceeds to interview an enby*
@SoftBreadSoft
@SoftBreadSoft Жыл бұрын
​@@techtutorvideos The language itself and its specifications is public domain, the name/branding is not. You can't copyright any form of language, including programming languages. Please just google it. There are even open source implementations of it and every other "proprietary" programming language.
@UnabashedOops
@UnabashedOops Жыл бұрын
Waiting till July 1 is about like waiting till my Rust code finishes compiling.
@skyline00069
@skyline00069 Жыл бұрын
Did it finish by now?
@UnabashedOops
@UnabashedOops Жыл бұрын
ETA tomorrow
@arthurion
@arthurion Жыл бұрын
@@UnabashedOops next life
@RustIsWinning
@RustIsWinning 9 күн бұрын
Very funny nerds 🤓 as if Cpp does not compile as slow LOL
@KirillFrolov77
@KirillFrolov77 2 ай бұрын
This is just impossibly good! :-)) I have about 30 years experience with programming, I started when Pascal was still big, so I know a think or two about the languages. So I tried Rust, picked just a simple hobby project (a curtain controller logic) and after two weeks I just couldn't finish it. Than I freaked out and returned to C++ and was done within a couple of evenings. Rust's learning curve is just... too much. Although a bunch of ideas are interesting.
@metatronicx
@metatronicx Жыл бұрын
Would be interesting ... We need interview with a Labview developper too
@heartache5742
@heartache5742 Жыл бұрын
is labview that popular
@lawrencedoliveiro9104
@lawrencedoliveiro9104 Жыл бұрын
Among those who still remember it ...
@jordangl1
@jordangl1 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to Primeagen's reaction
@victoryfile
@victoryfile Жыл бұрын
The accent, the hair, the light, the words, everything is perfect.
@genins21
@genins21 Жыл бұрын
Interview with an Ops Engineer (DB, Network, Infra etc) would be amazing
@alexanderdiogenes8067
@alexanderdiogenes8067 Жыл бұрын
"There are currently five games written in Rust. There are also fifty game engines written in Rust" Oh maaaan, I feel seen lol
@RustIsWinning
@RustIsWinning 9 күн бұрын
Fake news
@saycheeseordie4458
@saycheeseordie4458 11 ай бұрын
"I let my threads panic. For pleasure." Found myself writing a lot of multithreaded Rust recently. I was ROFL for like 10 minutes after these lines.
@spokesperson_usa
@spokesperson_usa Жыл бұрын
As a Rust fanatic, this is hilarious, on point af.
@nootnoot42
@nootnoot42 Жыл бұрын
Could you explain what he means by memory leaks happen but it will never be referenced again? As in does it keep on allocating more, or is everthing a const, regenerated upon altering?
@4xelchess905
@4xelchess905 Жыл бұрын
@@nootnoot42 The Cult defines memory safety as the absence of undefined behaviours, such as data race, double free, dereferencing memory not/no longer allocated... A memory leak, a concept independent of Rust, is when you ask memory from the OS, but then forget about it without de-allocating it. One way to phrase that it is lost is that it's memory which won't be referenced again. As such, it is not unsafe per se. It keeps on allocating more. You can have leaks of constant size if there's not in a loop, but you cannot "alter" leaked data, that's the thing, the OS reserves it for you, and you no longer know where it is. Memory leak is a big deal when comparing memory models of different languages, and the absence of leak is a big selling point of garbage collecting over reference counting and manual management. What is funny about that is that the cult sounds like it's a non issue since it is not memory safety per se. The truth however, is that Rust is a huge upgrade from C/C++ when it come to avoiding leakage, since you can't cause them without using smart pointer or explicitly leaking potentially in combination with unsafe mode.
@thomson765
@thomson765 Жыл бұрын
@@nootnoot42create a reference counting pointer a, create reference counting pointer b pointing to a, modify a to point to b: references will never reach zero so destructors will never be called and memory will never be freed, even if main completes. This behaviour is why .forget() is considered safe; rust memory safety does not guarantee no memory leakage (as proven by the first example). forget() takes ownership of a value and makes it impossible to re-reference, but does not call the destructor. An explicit leak.
@nootnoot42
@nootnoot42 Жыл бұрын
@@thomson765 Thank you
@RustIsWinning
@RustIsWinning 9 күн бұрын
Not a real fanatic! Video needs to be removed!!
@roblesrt
@roblesrt Жыл бұрын
He appears like a cool young version of Brad Pitt oxidized into coding Rust.
@lassamaria
@lassamaria 5 ай бұрын
I keep rewatching this throughout my Rust learning journey. Bravo 👏
@varcel4625
@varcel4625 7 ай бұрын
6:55 "No, I just finished compiling", had me dying 😂
@adhalianna
@adhalianna Жыл бұрын
That must have taken quite some prep work! So much of that feels like inside info that I am tempted to say the guy must have done at least some programming in Rust. Also, the blue wig matches the eyes so well 💙😆
@yds6268
@yds6268 Жыл бұрын
5 games and 50 game engines - true, but making a game engine is so much more fun
@sasas845
@sasas845 Жыл бұрын
That situtation is actually sensible and interesting. Graphics APIs (OpenGL, Vulkan, Direct3D,...) have the following challanges: 1) things are checked at runtime and *only* at runtime 2) exhaustive testing is impractical (you need the combinations of all physical GPUs and all drivers) 3) the API has a lot of variability (different implemented featuresets, different API versions,...). All in all, this is a hot mess for graphics & gamel developers. If some technology were to tame this (and prevent lots of grey hair for game developers), this would probably be worth billions and billions of dollars. Personally, I'm not sure that graphics APIs can be tamed with Rust without constraining the API functionality too much (there is just too much variety there...). TOTOH if these projects actually succeed, it would prove Rust to be a tool of truly monstrous powers...
@meanmole3212
@meanmole3212 Жыл бұрын
@@sasas845 That's exactly the reason why wgpu exists, and it is beautiful.
@marcossidoruk8033
@marcossidoruk8033 Жыл бұрын
​@@sasas845 using Rust for game/gane engine development is painful.
@SimonBuchanNz
@SimonBuchanNz Жыл бұрын
​@@marcossidoruk8033using any language for game or game engine development is always *eventually* painful, when you get big enough to actually run up against the hardware. Using Rust is making the assumption that the average to peak suckage will be lower than other languages. You probably are thinking more about the scripting side, but you can host a runtime, including new Rust-flavored scripting languages if you want that hot loading experience.
@RustIsWinning
@RustIsWinning 9 күн бұрын
​@@marcossidoruk8033big skill issue
@Y2B123
@Y2B123 Жыл бұрын
It sure takes a while to compile.
@unknownguywholovespizza
@unknownguywholovespizza Жыл бұрын
Because of the abstractions
@RustIsWinning
@RustIsWinning 9 күн бұрын
You think cpp is faster? hahaha
@vijaysinghbisht3016
@vijaysinghbisht3016 Жыл бұрын
".. well mannered, well managed discussion which will make everyone equally unhappy " 🤣🤣
@MrAlanCristhian
@MrAlanCristhian Жыл бұрын
8:03 Cult... community, community 🤣
@DantalionNl
@DantalionNl Жыл бұрын
It would be really nice if these videos would have references to all the tools and technologies being joked about. I would really like to learn about them
@JosephCodette
@JosephCodette Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for primeagen’s reaction !
@malcolmw513
@malcolmw513 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes! Famed automobile pioneer and systems programmer Harrison Ford.
@Traisas
@Traisas 8 ай бұрын
lol
@heartache5742
@heartache5742 Жыл бұрын
fifteen days? are you serious
@vesk4000
@vesk4000 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, what? Who puts videos on for premiere 15 days in advance?
@JohnnyWednesday
@JohnnyWednesday Жыл бұрын
@@vesk4000 - I hope he changes it to 30 days now.
@pehur00
@pehur00 Жыл бұрын
​@@vesk4000rust developers
@arnesl929
@arnesl929 Жыл бұрын
It is part of the Joke
@davidc.890
@davidc.890 Жыл бұрын
That's how long it takes to `cargo build --release`
@ar4hm4n
@ar4hm4n Жыл бұрын
Took it as a brithday gift. Thanks!
@calcs001
@calcs001 Жыл бұрын
Solid! Missing the split keyboard tho 😅
@gkail6980
@gkail6980 10 ай бұрын
- Yeah, but nobody knows Haskell. We're all looking to learn Rust - Come back after you've learned Haskell coming to Rust from Haskell, I confirm that this really helps
@clickrush
@clickrush Жыл бұрын
“Is it time for the coffee?” - “No I just finished compiling.” LOL
@hotpil7020
@hotpil7020 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see an interview with a LaTeX enthusiast! I am sure that would be very entertaining since LaTeX is definitely much more efficient than all that MS Office nonsense.
@jamesnomos8472
@jamesnomos8472 Жыл бұрын
I have written plenty of LaTeX, and lemme tell you - every time I have some incomprehensible error I can't find and need to go to stack exchange for the 12th time that hour, I despair that it's still infinitely better than MS Office for maths.
@Madbird95
@Madbird95 Жыл бұрын
“There are currently 5 games written in rust, and 50 engines.” 😂
@runvnc208
@runvnc208 Жыл бұрын
He mentioned gluon at the end. I didn't know about it. Looks amazing actually.
@nicoburniske
@nicoburniske Жыл бұрын
this was amazing. Please make one for Haskell/Scala/Functional programmers
@gorak9000
@gorak9000 Жыл бұрын
There's a lot of Haskell mentions in his emacs video - worth checking out
@wearegettingdumber...2263
@wearegettingdumber...2263 Жыл бұрын
LOL, "Come back after you learn Haskell..normie." That is hilirious!
@rallokkcaz
@rallokkcaz Жыл бұрын
OOF. This hit hard as a Rust dev, who also worked for a blockchain company that died lol.
@RustIsWinning
@RustIsWinning 9 күн бұрын
Your own fault! Take the --> L
@etherweb6796
@etherweb6796 Жыл бұрын
This is one of the best videos, on par with the senior JS dev
@daveice20
@daveice20 Жыл бұрын
went for the Rust Dev look, but ended up with the Gorillaz lead singer look
@almicc
@almicc Жыл бұрын
Please do one as a fresh computer science graduate who thinks the interview is actually for a job but realizes at the end that it was an unpaid internship
@vagkalosynakis
@vagkalosynakis Жыл бұрын
Now that Lemmy is built in Rust and it's also caught in the middle on the Reddit Drama, I feel like it would provide a LOT of content for satire. I am sure your video is going to be as excellent as the rest!
@Feenskee
@Feenskee Жыл бұрын
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOO🎉🎉🎉
@EldorJ10
@EldorJ10 Жыл бұрын
2:48 - "There are currently 5 games written in rust, and 50 game engines" HAHAHAHA
@andrewgr144
@andrewgr144 Жыл бұрын
I laughed so hard at everything else he made fun of. This one hit too close to home, I smiled wryly at half of it, and winced at the other half. As always, superb job, though I think he's talented and funny enough that he can risk a bit more variation in the future.
@Soitisisit
@Soitisisit Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure it's the same for other videos tbh. The perl one felt especially on point with how it feels to encounter perl code anywhere in an open-source project.
@andrewgr144
@andrewgr144 Жыл бұрын
@@Soitisisit Yeah, I kind of figured that it was just my turn. :)
@MestisoHapa
@MestisoHapa Жыл бұрын
I love rust, and I thought this was super hilarious. I died laughing at the trust_me macro, 'comeback after you learn haskell' or 'we didn't say it was a language for everybody, just for the elite'. I actually learned a bit of haskell/purescript a few years ago, so I know that haskellers respect rust and vice-versa (look at FPComplete). I can't wait for him to do one on mojo, once mojo hits a 1.0 release
@RustIsWinning
@RustIsWinning 9 күн бұрын
I cnrged so hard at everything. Not funny.
@caseynonduality
@caseynonduality 7 ай бұрын
SUBSCRIBER 4 LIFE! - Oh my god dude!!! You got something here. You are a talented comedian that just so happens to know about tech. Make this a Niche Bro if you're into it. You got talent and thanks for the laughs.
@remsee1608
@remsee1608 Жыл бұрын
"In JavaScript you worry about JavaScript" thats why its the best
@yt-1337
@yt-1337 Жыл бұрын
"...worst" here FTFY
@isocuda
@isocuda Жыл бұрын
I'm watching this now and then I'll watch the 36min version Netflix Prime will make.
@sortof3337
@sortof3337 Жыл бұрын
Love how he looks tired like evey other rust developer.
@8o86
@8o86 Жыл бұрын
it's because he's stoned
@RogerValor
@RogerValor Жыл бұрын
I feel like I bought into an ICO. Waiting for it to compile.
@MechMK1
@MechMK1 Жыл бұрын
"The compiler is your friend" - I see someone has been watching No Boilerplate
@gigiopincio5006
@gigiopincio5006 Жыл бұрын
"we compile the entire company at runtime"
@johnychinese
@johnychinese Жыл бұрын
It's worth the wait
@TheRighteousDawn
@TheRighteousDawn Жыл бұрын
I honestly cannot wait for the Prime react to this one!
@alkumhcounseling8634
@alkumhcounseling8634 Жыл бұрын
I've seen this in my queue as premiering soon for so long that I've wondered if that was the joke...
@emilymatheys431
@emilymatheys431 Жыл бұрын
I am CRYING this is even better than I was expecting
@tiranobanderas5655
@tiranobanderas5655 Жыл бұрын
A premier that makes me wait for 2 weeks. Just as long as it takes to use "cargo build --release" to compile a rust hello world. You sure are taking the joke to the next level.
@mar-wv7rp
@mar-wv7rp 9 ай бұрын
first time i encounter your? / you guys? content. Had a pretty good time. Ty - much love.
@KCrouch-t2o
@KCrouch-t2o Жыл бұрын
"...joinhandle goes out of scope... some think the task should be aborted. the others don't think at all" i am fucking dieing here
@o2xygen02
@o2xygen02 Жыл бұрын
2 more days! Just in time for sprint planning lets go!
@Hyo9000
@Hyo9000 Жыл бұрын
You know, the "trust me" macro is a pretty accurate description of what using the unsafe keyword is. You're saying "okay rustc, lemme validate this part of the code for you". Instead of "unsafe", a more apt name could've been "assert_safety", or... "trust_me"
@kitersrefuge7353
@kitersrefuge7353 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic! "I am fully Oxidized at this point"....LOL...Please do one for Scala. Please!
@kasvith
@kasvith Жыл бұрын
Option
@RustIsWinning
@RustIsWinning 9 күн бұрын
Beautiful 🦀
@Wigglylove
@Wigglylove Жыл бұрын
Damn I've been waiting for this video video to drop for weeks. Can't believe the day is finally here
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