Intimate Moments with Lungelo KM S02 E03 | Engineer Your Life Podcast, Being Queer and Christian

Lungelo Mdletshe, also known as Lungelo KM, is a definitely one of the voices and personalities of our generation to watch.
Born and bred in Durban, South Africa, Lungelo is a qualified and registered consulting engineer by profession, a master of ceremonies, content creator and the host of the Engineer Your Life Podcast.
Through this talk show, he aims to facilitate conversations that change lives; and he’s definitely succeeding in that - having hosted some of the most interesting and impactful people in South Africa.

[@EngineerYLShow]

Thank you for hosting me and having the heart of God Ndumiso in how you conduct conversations. I pray God continues growing and diversifying the streams of greatness for this platform. Kindness and love above all. Blessings to you! ❤

[@rirhandzurahosi]

YOH you and you pastor friend are missing the narrow road

[@NtombozukoZenani]

What an intelligent young man ,I admire you ,your work ethics and your strong personality. Bless you 😍

[@stanleymathabathe4703]

I just wanna ask Lungelo..as u were talking about masculine and feminine gays...how do u really honestly regard Feminine gays?

[@chamuvelgo812]

Lungelo!

[@LindoMchunu]

May we never be comfortable in sin.

[@eliasmatsoso6822]

Yes sex before marriage is wrong.

[@curzdb1045]

Ohhh you mean your sins

[@LindoMchunu]

@curzdb1045 Oh yes, especially the many sins and iniquities that I've committed rudely! May I never grow comfortable in them. Wretched man that I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death?

[@blessingmkhwanazi8952]

It’s very sad to see the standard of Christianity deteriorate so much. This is due to biblical illiteracy and psychologised Christianity that doesn’t want to call out sin. We have one standard of truth and that is the Bible - we don’t get to define truth for ourselves.

[@ThaboAkebulah]

votsek mmakgunyo kwena

[@sekoaib]

@@ThaboAkebulahtael nawe

[@sphumelelesijadu]

But you do choose though. Slavery? Women being quite in church? Divorce? Stoning people to death? Wearing mixed fabrics? Women who are menstruating being unclean? Y'all ignore all of that but when it comes to queer people suddenly the Bible must be followed to the T.

[@lesedi3040]

True

[@buffalo_skies8490]

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ truth!!

[@rhumash5977]

with love guys, you dont have to label yourself something that God doesn't. our lives are not our own. when we are saved we die to self. Live for God and inherit the kingdom of God.

[@tlhomphomalumbela2855]

No Lungelo is the best in the country 🙌🏾 by far! The poise, the composure, skill, brains!!! The absolute best! Love from 🇧🇼🇧🇼🇧🇼

[@siviwekulu6996]

Absent/inconsistent fathers create a serious problem and are detrimental to humankind, especially to the neglected boy child. The repercussions of their barbaric actions are eternal and they can't be reversed nor rectified😔 😟 😢

[@msawenkosilanga1379]

May I ask. You not justify homosexuality as the result of being fatherless? I'm asking because there are people who grew up having both mother and father present, some of those people are pastors kids but they still turnout to be homosexual. And then we have a guy who grew without a father and had women in his upbringing but is heterosexual.

[@tumelothobejane4284]

Musani ukudlala ngo Nkulunkulu

[@nomtee_deefaer8109]

Please ,people must stop .Homosexuality is not God’s pattern and regardless of how many people support it ,it won't be okay in the Lord's eyes .1 Corinthians teaches us ,that we were like them but in the name of the lord Jesus, we were cleansed ,sanctified and justified.We are now of Christ and we cannot follow our old ways nor desires .The goal is Christ .I myself am from a life of homosexuality and wanted to take on this identity but the Spirit of God within me kept saying No .Until I gave up and accepted what the lord said about me .I am of Christ .People homosexuality is a lie and only Christ's love and power can help .I pray that as they continue being intimate with the Spirit of God He gives them wisdom and brings then to a place of a broken spirit .

[@nhlakaniphomdlalose5208]

Injalo sisi 🤝🏿

[@lamoola9279]

Unkulunkulu owabanani kanti?

[@msawenkosilanga1379]

​@@nomtee_deefaer8109may I ask something Mam. How do you know that homosexuality is not pleasing in God's eyes. 2. What do you mean by homosexuality being a lie?

[@bryanlupindo942]

Niyathanda ukwenza sengathi owenu nodwa nezulu niyolingena nigijima 😏

[@lusandabota2809]

I could listen to him everyday, he is so eloquent and smart 💯

[@lunginn]

I admire this young man's self-knowledge, assertiveness, intelligence and strong personality. Big ups to him and wishing him all the best. Momma and grandparents did a good job here ✌🏾.

[@disciple8531]

I enjoyed this interview. It was good to hear Lungelo being interviewed, can listen to you the whole day... Big ups brothers. It's my first time on this platform, Ndumiso, you've gained a subscriber. My comment as a believer in Christ on your topic on queerness and other behaviours you mentioned as sin which can take a person to hell. According to the Bible, what can take (sin) a person to hell is rejection of Christ, not believing in Him, and not any other thing. Remember Christ's death was a substutionary death. The penalty/ wages of sin fell on Him. If behaviour can save someone, then Jesus would not have died. Again, as a born again believer, when you have believed in Christ, you need to be discipled. As you are discipled and taught God's word (where sound doctrine is taught, where the word is correctly divided). You will grow and learn of your identity in Christ and walk in it. The word you hear will renew your mind and leads to transformation. That's where even fornicators, liars, people with outbursts of anger, bitterness, etc can change through God's word. Lastly, a believer in Christ who's mature, transformed, rooted in the word will love everyone and speak the truth of God's word as it. We need not pick and choose what we want but embrace the word in its totality. Christianity is not about behaviour and morals but about Christ, who became man to die for men's sin. Oh, one last thing on divorce. Yes Jesus told the Pharisees that divorce did no exist in the beginning......and went on to say it is adultery when a spouse divorces and remarries while their spouse is still alive. He never said divorce is sin.

[@lucricia_mokgolo]

I love Lungelo's calm aura.❤

[@SamboNsovo]

Such a diligent inspiring fellow 👏🏾. I inspired. On the matter of queerness, it was an L take. The bible is very clear on this, and if we make it a matter of "interpretation", then the bible doesn't say anything about anything. The bible is clear, it's a sin and it's immoral. And no, it doesn't mean we have to treat queer people poorly. We need to treat them with love and digniy, but never compromising truth. And also, one thing that was distasteful, was draging other people's struggles in defense of one struggle. It's not ok to defend one's sin by calling out other people's sins, God will not judge according to what other people have done.

[@msawenkosilanga1379]

If I can ask my Sir. Are you saying the bible should not be interpreted? Please explain...

[@SamboNsovo]

@@msawenkosilanga1379 No, I'm not saying that. Scriptures csn be explained and unpacked. I am saying what the writers wrote on this matter is clear. They are communicating something after all, and did so clearly. Their aim was for it to be read and understood. If we can read it any other way then the scriptures do not say anything. That's how we get heresies. Heresies wouldn't exist if everything is up to interpretation.

[@msawenkosilanga1379]

@@SamboNsovo I'm sorry for sparring a kind of debate but what you see as clear may not be clear to everyone else and those people deem necessary to interpret that. There are many scriptures from Leviticus and other verses that we say we should interpret them with context not that they are not clear. It's like the scripture that seems to forbid women from being ministers. You don't decide what other people interpret, as long as thier interpretations are correct biblically. And this is not a a simple thing as you should love your neighbour as you love yourself, it has to do with realities of the people within the church, of a topic that is ever debated in church. In that way interpretations are valid.

[@SamboNsovo]

@@msawenkosilanga1379 Someone can make the same comment you are making about the "love your neighbor scripture". It's clear, but someone can say it's based on interpretation. You can interpret scripture in "that" way, but it would be an erroneous interpretation. That's why we have orthodoxy. If there was no right way to interpret scripture we can sign off all heresies as valid cause the bible is open for ALL interpretation. Scripture's correct position on homosexuality is that it's sinful. If we can say it's "based on how you interpret it" when it comes to homosexuality, then we can do the same for lying, murder, stealing, fornication, adultery etc etc. We know all of these are sin and we wouldn't dare say "well based on your interpretation". It's only when it comes to homosexuality that we want to have different interpretations to what is made as clear as the other vices.

[@busisiwephakathi7793]

I could listen to Lungelo the whole day. What a bunch of positivity. He could be my BFF 😅

[@mandlankosi3874]

The God of love created diversity for His own glory. The rainbow He sets in the sky stands as a symbol of that diversity. Humanity has only one divine duty, which is to love and embrace God's diversity manifesting itself in every facet of human life.

[@khanyingosi9229]

I love lungelo,he is a wise, matured, God fearing young man,may God bless, protect and guide that young man,he is so encouraging,big up bro ❤

[@londiweprincess3547]

Yho Lungelo! You are so informed and well articulated, I'm in awe. Keep on being you man, we love you.

[@khanyingosi9229]

The first time, I bumped to lungelo, when he interviewed, sister londy mazwide, since then, I was like wow,who is that young man, what I love most about him,he is a Christian,all the best bro ❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@busisiwepakade3924]

Another brilliant interview, Ndumiso. It was great to know more about Lungelo KM, as a subscriber in his channel. He is a young man with so much wisdom💯 . I wish more "estranged" parents may learn from the example of Lungelo's dad - a tough journey but as parents we need to humble ourselves and allow our kids to lead the journey of mending and healing when we have failed them in any way irregardless of "the circumstances" that led to that.

[@nokwazishezi7580]

I love the confidence ke sana Lungelo you are so sure of who you are and your capabilities ❤

[@sphumelelesijadu]

I'm not religious but I love to see a Christianity that affirms my Queer people 🤎🖤💞

[@buffalo_skies8490]

@@sphumelelesijadu it's still unGodly and against God's word! It's still sin

[@sphumelelesijadu]

@@buffalo_skies8490 But Gods word says slavery is okay, that women should be submissive to men, we shouldn't wear mixed fabrics, people should be stoned to death. No body listens to all that but when it comes to gay people we must follow to the T?

[@thabisamgquba8891]

Lungelo is brilliant thank you for the interview. It’s good to see him in a different seat

[@MokwenaDD]

Lungelo is a joy to watch and listen to. A great conversation this was.

[@nomthandazomsimango5206]

Ndumiso you are enlightening us❤.

[@Nonkosi_M778]

I'd listen to LUNGELO all day everyday 😍

[@productofgrace3235]

With all due respect being gay/lesbian and Christian will be hard because it was never Gods original plan. God will always love us as sinners but he will not break his word too. Leviticus 20v13 the act of two men is seeing as detestable. We all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God. If a murderer confesses the sin and leaves it then he is forgiven however a murderer cannot be accepted by God if he wants to continue being a Christian and a murderer too. Everything about is about purpose. God loves you incredibly however he will not accept that we choose to dishonor his word when he honours his word above his name. If this offends you I apologise it is not intended to do that.

[@simeliwenkosi3722]

Lungelo KM, what an intelligent young man. 💫

[@neo_mohapi]

Absolutely enjoyed this episode. Thank you gentlemen. Lungelo is such a confident young man, focused and inspirational. I didn't think I would listen to the entire episode all in one go especially, but you both kept me interested. Thank you!

[@LwaziGwegwana]

Lunge lo is such a gem 🙌🏽🙌🏽 So much wisdom in one human. Thank you for this informative episode🤗

[@elsientuli2538]

Lungelo keep it up I love your knowledge and your forgiveness

[@sic_transit_gloria_mundi]

Lungelo speaks words of wisdom.

[@mandisamthembu9230]

This deserves more views honestly

[@sibusisomorgen1432]

Thank you for an amazing show ❤❤❤❤❤

[@abrahamserote1178]

Such rich insightful conversation 😊😊. I learned a lot from Lungelo. Great job Ndumiso!

[@sinegugumaphumulo4100]

Lungelo u smart, smart haibo❤❤ I could listen to you talk all day💞💞💓💓

[@sellitwithlebo2659]

Big ups @Lungelo, nothing is greater than encouragement, when you are starting out. Especially from some you inspired by..

[@nikitasigowadifferent363]

If we were to introspect ourselves ngesingekho apha pointing out what others does and do not do,the Bible mentions a lot of sins it says “ we mustn’t even eat with such” if we think we have mastered those sins I believe it’s not our power but through the help of the spirit of the Lord and therefore we must be compassionate enough to go to God and ask for the same mercy to fall into other. Yona iyibeka ngokuphandle that “Queer” just like all other sins is not acceptable before God,we must look beyond the eyes of the people and listen to what God has to say about it.

[@wandsilembabalo4037]

I love Lungelo with all my life❤❤

[@tebogomolatudi1329]

Woow what a session!🙌

[@mbalimngunii]

I thoroughly enjoyed the episode🥹💕it felt more like a meaningful conversation than an interview. 💯

[@user-fy7mo8et8i]

We are all sinners and saved by grace.

[@DannyLTerry]

I love this, great interview.👍🏽💙💙💙💙👍🏽

[@teyisenkosekhaya]

I could listen to uLungelo the whole day.

[@claudiemunyai8650]

Wisdom 💯🙏🏽

[@sphiwemahlangu3598]

Thank you for this interview ❤

[@user-dl2dq8wt5f]

I love the interviewer and the interviewee for their ongoing concept-building skills. Keep it up, guys. I just love the both of you...Please invite me one-day neh. Reagrads...

[@strawberrygumede4831]

Lungelo the greatest ,such intelligent young man

[@zuzilezungu5899]

The LGBTQi matters are amongst the issues that The Methodist Church has our agenda

[@MissCombs1511]

You may have been the only person who asks him in a while, and actually caring enough to listen to his response.😊

[@namelastname2127]

Lovely video, I'm so inspired watching this video, and I've really enjoyed this, thanks so much for sharing, lots of love from Toronto Canada 🇨🇦 💕

[@hollykent2421]

To all those who are here quoting scripture, I really want to ask you, what do want gay people to do? Honestly, should they confess their gayness and ask God to change them? They have, still gay. Should they abstain from all sexual intimacy with the same sex? Okay, this is what I want to get to. Who does that please? God or man. If you say God, then I will challenge that. The true law is not one kept on the outside but one kept from within. If you look at a woman with lust, you have committed adultery in God's eyes. Therefore, simply staying away from sex is not fulfilling the law or any righteouness in God's eyes. He looks at the heart. I can abstain from sex but still be filled with all manners of lust and desire. Yes, you will congratulate me, but will God? The answer is No. We are saved by Grace, through faith, not of any works. That is the new covenant. What someone does after they reeceive Christ is between them and God. The Holy Spirit will work out their path, it is not for you and I to condemn and try to bring them back under law. For the strength of sin is the law. When you condemn people, you are not helping them get closer to God, no, you are rearming the devil and allowing darkness to take control. You have absolutely no right to judge. Pick out the log in your eyes before trying to remove the spec in your brother's. Our path is to lead people to Christ and offer guidance WHEN asked. We are not judges holding up the law. For those who are alive to Christ are dead from the law. Stop with your self-righteouness disguised as love. You do not love these people. You simply want to change them. That is not love, for love is never conditional. Stop with your hypocrisy. Let people experience the true love of God, and whether or not they change is NONE of your business.

[@zimasambonelwa]

🥺i love this so much. thank you.

[@lungiswagumede3603]

Best comment so far.

[@chiefer1325]

These platforms gave great opportunity for people to share their side of the story when it was difficult for people to earn platforms to lay bear their truth.

[@EdwardMolete]

It's definitely a challenge being gay and Christian in S.A.

[@sibusisomorgen1432]

Lungelo touched on being gay and proving you way out in the industry or what ever stream you in,I felt comfort that I am not alone who gone through that..

[@bryanoaitse1547]

Lungelo bathong ❤️❤️❤️

[@ntokozoshabalala6439]

Wow what a strong,beautiful woman. Ameigh you don't have to explain yourself mina I believe you,children don't lie your daughter is a friend of my child same boarding school. Keep shining my sister❤

[@derrickhypolite3250]

Love to all the gay boys and girls god love you all loves your life be happy My friends.💙🙏💙

[@gomolemonathanmanaka1539]

Colossians 4 vs 4 clarity 👌

[@MissCombs1511]

Ps Ndu you forgot to ask him "how are you?" 😅

[@TheUnChristianPod]

😂😂😂 Yazi I did. The mistake will not happen again. People must be asked… 😂

[@derrickhypolite3250]

My Brother you are so right to the truth we are god children god made me and you thank you for your veido love your life be happy with your life thanks you so much for this veido love to all gay men god blessing and Love to you all and god is always there with you My Brother's and friends , from Brooklyn New York City.🌈💙 🌈🙏🙏

[@katlegojkekana7874]

I'd love to see Christianity accept & affirm my thuggish gang

[@zikhonasomagaca46]

It is so sad that people are judgemental whereas they are engaging in sexual intercourse before marriage, they have kids out of wedlock as if that is not sinning. We are all sinners and we sin differently and need God's grace

[@redwoods7370]

Jesus only cares about what is in your heart. Nothing else matters to Him.

[@ziyandamaphini4722]

"Men of God"....Oh I know them.🤣🤣

[@bestnollywoodmovies248]

Read 1 Corinthians 6vs9 and Romans 1 vs 18-32.

[@mphohlongwane6799]

If you're so quick to point being gay it's a sin, then what about you!

[@mahin.t3427]

Great interview! However I hear a contradiction in the convictions of his rightness with the life style he tries to assert as Holy and acceptable by God! That speaks a lot to anyone who is listening well more than the superficial expressions. Being the “masculine by design” shouldn’t be the escape route but being right by principles should. Christians love the queer community but it will be hate if they don’t tell you what will destroy you. ❤❤❤

[@nene-rc2my]

Firstly you cannot be “queer” and Christian, that’s contradiction. God has clearly stated that homosexuals will not enter the kingdom of God & another thing is, if you know the lifestyle you’re living is sinful, you are no longer of God but of the World, God has said you cannot serve 2 masters you’re either hot or cold. You can only be a child of God when you deny your fleshy desires & lusts…& you walk in the Word & the spirit.

[@TheIrieman15]

Despite what you think, people are born gay. So, condemed from birth by your god?

[@nokubongancongwane3154]

Animthandi lomfana. How can you support such deception.

[@Ayathula]

This was beautiful to watch, and very enlightening. 👌🤌✊