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In this video, we carry out a full review of the A2A Comanche 250, within Microsoft Flight Simulator (MSFS).
We will take the aircraft on an IFR hop, along the United States' eastern coast, from Hudson Valley Regional (KPOU), over to Block Island (KBID).
Please note this video and all its contents / materials, is for entertainment / simulation purposes only.
PC Specs
ASUS Z790
Intel Core i9 13900K 5.8GHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090
64GB DDR4 2666MHz
Hardware
Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog
Saitek Pro Flight rudder pedals
HP Reverb WMR headset
TrackIR5
Earthquake Shell Shoxx transducer
Enjoy the flight!

[@ShockwaveProd]

Thank you for reviewing the Comanche 250. Impressive flight and enjoyed the commentary. BTW, you can remove the pilot by opening the door and click on the anti slip black portion of the wing or going on the walk around. Time acceleration isn’t currently supported but we do plan to support it in the future. Also fair point on the downloads, it makes sense thinking about it to just make that unlimited. Thanks again for the feedback, both praise and criticism.

[@AdelHaiba78]

This is really beautiful bird, you did an amazing work, You've set the bar high, when it comes to sims, Great work, I applaud you for that. I wonder, when will the Aerostar follow the amazing Comanche?

[@vermin1970]

Made one flight last night, this will likely be the only aircraft I fly now until your next release. very well done.

[@graemejohnstone7734]

Is there a support forum or discord?

[@braveheart1985]

THE most immersive ac in the sim to date. My only gripe, no copilot functionality.

[@jordancollins7714]

WHat do you mean by "time acceleration isn't support," does that mean we cannot turn it on at all when using the 250?

[@cancian95]

A2A always set the bar for ultra-high quality add-ons since FSX...these guys work is just amazing ❤

[@anonharingenamn]

This may be a $50 product, but just look at the attention to detail. No other small aircraft add-on even gets half way to this level of quality. Mindblowing.

[@CMBelite-FR]

the BS TBm 850 disaprouve :)

[@crazygamingyt7245]

@@CMBelite-FRthe Comanches is the most detailed ga

[@Spartan536]

Scott Gentile and Co (A2A) are second to none, Scott being an IRL pilot really tries to get simmers to feel as close as to what we feel when we fly IRL. Given no simulation is ever going to be like flying IRL, but as far as at home products goes, A2A IS THE GOLD STANDARD.

[@HashtagFelix]

the videos this guy makes are on a quality level that noone else has. its way more than a review, its a scenic experience of idk how to explain it. its awesome! keep it up :)

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha, thank you very much for the kind words Felix, throughly appreciated! I certainly try my best to make my videos more than “just” a review; I very much enjoy planning the flight and creating a little backstory etc. I’m really glad you’re enjoying the content. Thanks again and all the best! : )

[@HashtagFelix]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations No Problem, your content is outstanding and just uncomparrable to pretty much everything at tutorials and reviews out there :) Also they helped me understand quiet a lot of planes better and learn more where i thought i figured it all out already. Also thanks for taking time to respond to comments of ur community, something a lot of creators dont do sadly :D have a good one :)

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

My absolute pleasure, Felix! Cheers : )

[@OifelOifel]

Hands down this is the most realisticly behaving aircraft for msfs2020 to date. I am a student for light aircraft in real life and the comanche feels very close to real flying, whether in the air, during landing (e.g. slipping) or during the flare. I enjoy a lot of other planes in the sim but NOTHING compares to A2As comanche. They really did great with all the modeling and physics. And the sounds... Man! Amazing. 👍👍👍

[@CMBelite-FR]

you mean for a GA ? yes maybe but i think the TBM 850 is very close as well

[@OifelOifel]

@@CMBelite-FR will check it out then! I like turboprops :)

[@Orzorn]

This is the best sim channel on youtube. Your attention to detail and how you cover the material is always easy on the ears, easy to understand, and very thorough without being long winded. Keep it up!

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thank you very much indeed for the kind words, Orzorn! It is hugely appreciated and I’m really happy to hear that you’re enjoying the content. I shall try my best to keep the videos coming : ) Cheers and all the best!

[@TerminatorFRA]

Waiting for the 377 Stratocruiser to be finaly refreshed to that level with the captain of the ship extension. What a monster it was in fsx. It would be gorgeous !

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

I would love to see the 377 and indeed the rest of A2A’s previous lineup within MSFS, Eric! The A2A Spit, is still my favourite sim addon of all time, so I really hope she’ll be gracing the skies of MSFS one day. Cheers, all the best! : )

[@berlinflight_tv]

Here's a fun little detail that doesn't seem to be mentioned in the manual: When you do the walk around, you can check the pitot heater. There's a clickspot on the pitot tube. Normally, if you click on it, the tube gets a blue-ish glow. However, if the tube is heated up, you'll get a red glow instead as an indicator that it is warm. EDIT: Also, I must admit that I skipped ahead to your conclusion and have yet to watch the whole video, so I may have missed that bit, but when you say that you couldn't remove the pilot model, did you look at the following section from the FAQ in the manual? "How do I remove the pilot from the plane? Open the cabin door and click the black non-slip walkway on the wing. But I can’t open the door! It’s a two-part process: first unlock the latch at the top of the door by rotating it forward, and then use the handle below the window. Bear in mind that if the engine is running, the prop wash will push the door closed."

[@tommijeep]

Just to add, the pitot also has a heat haze.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Hi BF, I must confess, I didn’t even consider the FAQ section - thanks for the info! That’s an amazing little detail on the pitot. All these little details really add up and they’re part of what makes an A2A product so special. Cheers! Much appreciated and all the best to you : )

[@ClausThanner]

BOOM! Well spotted young man! ;-)

[@H.EL-Othemany]

That door details you mentioned were a thing since FSX.. you gotta love A2A

[@skyhawk_4526]

I loved A2A back in the FSX/P3D days. Now I wish they'd bring back their Piper J-3 Cub for MSFS. It was one of my favorite addons with the simulated hand-propping to start the engine.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Same here, Skyhawk; I’ve been a long time fan of A2A and I would love to see their past lineup return to MSFS. The Cub would be great, but it’s the Spitfire MKI that I’m really keeping all of my fingers crossed for haha ; ) Cheers, all the best!

[@cobra10908]

I fell in love with the Comanche the first time I took one up. The airplane flies like a homesick angel and cruises like a bat out of hell regardless of power setting. It's stable and responsive throughout all flight regimes. Your review of the 250B aligns quite nicely with my experiences flying the 260B.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thanks very much for the info, Jacob; it’s always nice to hear from those who have real-world experience with the aircraft in question! I’m not surprised, but it’s great if A2A have largely managed to nail down the characteristics of the real-world Comanche. Cheers and all the best : )

[@johnarmstrong3782]

It's fifty quid well spent as far as I am concerned. I've never had any sim plane like it. So nice to fly. It's especially good value in view of the number of engines I've blown up in just one day!

[@jxk4500]

man I was just crank starting it until the starter broke lol

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha indeed, John! I do hope you’re enjoying the Comanche then, even if the aircraft does spend most of its time sat in the maintenance hangar : P All the best!

[@tanberjan]

It actually works out at about forty quid as it is fifty dollars!

[@OzzyInSpace]

Great video, as always. It's so amazing what they're able to do with these aircraft now days. Each raising the bar for the next. We all win... what a time to be a flight sim enthusiast.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thanks very much Ozzy, I’m really glad you enjoyed it! I 100% agree; it’s amazing how far the hobby has come and it’s a great time to be a flight simmer. Happy flying and all the best : )

[@Snowy57]

I’m only 20 mins into your review and it’s living up to and exceeding my expectations. I had the A2A FSX Kittyhawk and was very impressed with it so have high hopes for A2A in MSFS2020. Thank you for this as always excellent review. I have to take a break but will come back and enjoy watching the rest….Having finished watching your truly excellent review, I thank you for this. A really helpful review.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thank you very much once again, Snowy! As always, my absolute pleasure on the video, I’m really glad you found it helpful. A2A have always been masters of their craft and the Comanche is certainly no exception. It’s really nice to be able to pair up the visual of MSFS, with a truly exceptional GA aircraft. Now I just hope to see some of A2A’s warbirds haha. All the best! : )

[@liortaylor5305]

wonderful! lovely review as always, bar non the golden standard for aircraft reviews for this sim!

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thank you very much once again Lior, very kind of you to say! I do hope that I managed to do the Comanche some justice, as it is undoubtedly the gold standard for MSFS GA addons now ; ) All the best!

[@Peter-55]

It was a long wait, but boy was it worth it! Great review as always, and a great GA aircraft for the sim. I am really looking forward to many hours in this aircraft exploring the flight sim world 😎

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Indeed Peter, but as they say; “good things come to those who wait” - that was certainly the case with the Comanche. I love that A2A take their time, create relatively little fanfare, wait until everything has been finished properly and then just put out an absolute corker of a product. For VFR / GA simmers, it really doesn’t get much better than this. I’m glad you enjoyed the review. Many thanks as always! : )

[@ianwilliams7740]

Late subscriber but I would just like to say I really enjoy your videos and the attention to detail you put into them - especially with your naration. I feel like I have learned a lot just by watching them and have increased the time and effort i have put into my pre-flight checks etc .. Thank you for your efforts.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Hello Ian, Thank you very much for the kind words. I’m really happy to hear that you’re enjoying the content and finding it to be beneficial : ) My absolute pleasure on the videos. Thanks very much for watching and welcome aboard!

[@Josue_mej]

Best first landing I've seen from all the reviews! bought mine last night, can't wait to get home and fly it!

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha, thanks very much Josue - one tries one’s best! ; ) I really hope that you’re enjoying the Comanche then. Happy flying! : )

[@kokoeteantigha389]

Just bought. Hope it lives up to the expectations. I've heard so much praise.

[@rolanddutton]

The sound of the wheels and suspension during taxi! The metallic "thunk" from the wing spar(?) when you get hit by a gust! Actually being able to tell an engine fault from the sound + all the other great little details. Not to mention the great handling that seems to avoid the usual msfs problems. I'm an A2A newb but I see what the fuss is about. I'd have to say the external visuals aren't the best, noticeable because the rest is so good. I think this might actually save me some money, because I won't be looking for "the" piston single any more.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Ahhh, I didn’t realise. Welcome to the (wonderful) world of A2A then, Roland! : ) I’ve long said, I think one of A2A’s biggest tricks (alongside their superb engine modelling), is their excellent use of sound. Not only do their highly detailed soundsets make the aircraft feel more immersive / alive, but also realistic (sounds make up for some of the feedback that we generally lack in the sim, as you described above). I agree on the visuals. Not bad by any means, broadly on a par with Just Flight’s GA aircraft, but a Carenado model with A2A systems, would be a match made in heaven! It may well save you some money, until the next A2A aircraft comes along ; ) Cheers!

[@hjr2000]

​@@IntotheBlueSimulations what aircraft will they do next I wonder? Have they generally done GA in the past?

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Hi Haden, A2A have historically worked on a mix of GA aircraft and warbirds (as well as a couple of classic prop-liners). I have my fingers and toes crossed that we’ll see a return of the A2A Spit one day (and the rest of their warbirds) but, if I was a betting man, I’d say it’s more likely we’ll see another of their GA aircraft next. We shall see. . . Either way, it’s basically a dead-cert that it’ll be an excellent addon haha! All the best : )

[@wingcommanderjetson5660]

Yay! I was waiting for your review!

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha, thanks very much WCJ! I hope that the review proved useful and that if you did ultimately pick up the Comanche, you’re enjoying the aircraft : ) Happy flying and all the best!

[@garysmith5256]

Attention to detail, oh yes! It just doesn't stop. For example, put yourself into a nice cruise, make sure the headphones aren't connected, operate the cabin vents under copilot yoke and/or on the side panels. 💨

[@jress9967]

Thanks, always look to your concise and professional aircraft reviews.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thanks very much Jress, I’m really glad you’re enjoying the content! My pleasure and all the best : )

[@MichaelBrodie68]

I still regularly use Prepar3d v4 because of this aircraft. The A2A Commanche 250 is by far my favourite GA aircraft. So the news is fantastic and the review superb. Thank you!

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha, likewise Michael; the only reason P3D has remained installed on my PC, is so that I can keep on flying the wonderful A2A Spitfire (still my favourite sim addon of all time). I’m keeping all of my fingers crossed, that we’ll see the A2A Spit in MSFS one day. Thank you very much for the kind words, my pleasure on the video! All the best : )

[@wism881]

excellent review. well done. as the a2a, your attention to detail in these videos is unmatched

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thank you very much indeed, Wism! That’s very kind of you to say and throughly appreciated : ) I’m really glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks very much for watching and all the best!

[@XCougar85X]

Thanks for another amazing review. This one definetely will end up in the hangar at some point after vacation.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Cheers Coenraad, a pleasure as always! Haha, I’m sure you’ll enjoy the Comanche when the time comes. Have a great holiday! : )

[@chrisholmes3137]

Nice! Thanks for this great review. Another masterpiece from this channel. Just bought mine.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thanks very much for the kind words, Chris! I’m really glad that you enjoyed the video and indeed that you’re enjoying the content in general. I do hope that you’re having fun with the Comanche then! Happy flying and all the best : )

[@ChristopherWilliamsakadopher]

Great review of the A2A. This will be my next aircraft for sure. Also great to see you again over Rhode Island, I live in Warwick, Mins from KPVD and about a 30-minute ride South to the Point Judith ferry that takes us to BI a few times during the year.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thanks very much, Christopher! I’m really glad that you enjoyed the review and indeed another jaunt out in your neck of the woods : ) I do hope you have fun with the Comanche when you pick it up. Happy flying and all the best!

[@markscars1069]

Epic stuff. The 310R has been my preferred ‘ownership’ option in the sim and I will continue to use it, but will be getting this too as the level of software engineering is clearly on another level. Brilliant stuff.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Cheers Mark! Undoubtedly, the C310 is still a great addon and comes pretty close to the Comanche in terms of features. The Comanche does however just take things up another gear and I think it would be fair to say, offers the most comprehensive GA experience within MSFS at the moment. Either way, it’s great to finally be spoilt for choice! ; ) Happy flying and all the best : )

[@pinkfloyd7572]

Been reading about this plane being the new big thing, but I want to hear what you say. You remain the authoritative voice for honest in-depth reviews.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Well, thanks very much PF, very kind of you to say! I do hope that my review lived up to your expectations and proved useful in helping you decide whether or not to purchase. As you could probably tell from the video, I think the Comanche and A2A, deserve all of the praise they have been receiving! Many thanks once again - much appreciated! All the best : )

[@asill8122]

Truly amazing. Can't believe A2A managed to shoehorn so much functionality into this plane. Outstanding video & really comprehensive review. It's difficult not to get drawn along with you, when you have such an obvious passion for both A2A & the Comanche. Will it come to the Xbox? Somehow, I don't think so, but I can hope. This is one I will definitely buy when it does.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thank you very much once again, AS! I’m really glad my (thoroughly deserved) passion for A2A and their products shone through. The Comanche is a masterpiece, though I was expecting nothing less : P Sadly, I don’t think this one will be making its way onto the console; the aircraft uses a lot of external coding / applications, which presumably wouldn’t be able to run on the Xbox - a real shame. Cheers once again! : )

[@ZK.d0s]

I’ve never heard you use so many superlatives in one video ITTB! Great overview for those of us yet to purchase it, thanks for putting the time in for us 👏

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha and that was with me trying to keep things toned down, so it didn’t sound as though I was running a marketing campaign for A2A XD In fairness though, A2A deserve all of the praise they get. They have long made some of my favourite addons (the A2A Spit is my favourite sim addon of all time) and apparently continue to do so. My absolute pleasure on the video! Cheers once again and I hope you had a great weekend : )

[@Keith_Butcher]

Fantastic overview. Also a great tutorial. I’ve just been learning about carb heat. I was thinking ‘carb heat on’ and right on cue you went for it. Same on the final carb heat went off so you had full power for a go around. Looks like your attention to detail matches A2A’s! You’ve got a new subscriber and I’m looking forward to getting to grips with this a/c

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thank you very much for the kind words, Keith and I’m really glad you found the video to be enjoyable / useful! I suppose I do try and emulate A2A to some degree, in as much as I don’t put out any content that I’m not completely happy with (and I try to emulate procedures etc accurately, as best I can). Many thanks for the subscription! Welcome aboard : )

[@Sebastopolmark]

What a GREAT aircraft. This developer certainly has raised the bar. This is not a cheap plane but you definitely get what you pay for. If you are into the nitty AND gritty, this is the plane for you! !! !!!

[@aengberg1]

Wow. A2A have really knocked it out of the park with this one. Will take this for a looong spin this weekend!

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

They have indeed, Adam! Happy flying : )

[@flightgamer7849]

A must buy for me especially to show my support for quality work.

[@PluckyUnderdog]

GA aircraft in the sim hasn’t generally excited me much (I do like the Milviz 310R a lot though) until this. I think this has to be something I pick up. It seems exceptional. (Edit) I bought this. Oh my god, this thing is nigh-on perfect. It's the plane that all other planes should aspire to, in terms of features, flight model, failure modelling et al. And I include the airliners in that comment. This is the best aircraft in the sim, simply put.

[@MorrisseysMonkey]

Looking forward to buying this! Bit skint at the minute! Great review.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha, well I do hope you enjoy the Comanche when the time comes then, mate! It’s not the cheapest addon, but put into context, the aircraft is worth every penny. I’m really glad you enjoyed the review! May the money gods shine brightly upon you ; ) All the best!

[@patrickbureau6717]

This is astonishing. thank you for this detailed review.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

The Comanche really is an excellent effort. My absolute pleasure on the review, I’m glad you found it informative : ) Cheers Patrick, all the best!

[@andysim232]

Its the little things i love. They add up to something special. For instance the sun visors that vibrate with the engine rpm 😂

[@Niskan40]

They also drop with high G maneuvers :)

[@andysim232]

​@@Niskan40didn't notice that heeh 😂

[@magneticmonopole]

It is great to see a product from A2A. I wish to see their rendition of modern GA aircraft like Mooney Acclaim Ultra, Diamond DA 50RG and similar IFR certified models.

[@NoticalMyles]

Excellent demonstration! Thank you, sir!

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thank you very much once again, Myles! My absolute pleasure : )

[@braveheart1985]

Already bought this beauty, but knew this video was coming with anticipation

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

I do hope you enjoyed the vid then, Braveheart and I’ve no doubt you’re enjoying the Comanche also! Happy flying and all the best : )

[@ysteineker7001]

What a week. Waiting for this and JF F28 for two years, and they arrived within a week. An expensive week and both fighting for my my attention now. As expected, you did a complete preflight and run up. Some other reviewers just jump in and start up, as you may do with other aircraft in msfs. Be aware of maintenance and preflight is not an addon for just immersion that you may skip. - A2A accusim will certainly bite you for not taking care of YOUR aircraft. I know from experience with stuck l/h flap inP3d - and inflight engine shutdown. Both memorable moments. Thanks - hope you will be back soon with both JF F28 and A2A Comanche.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thanks very much Øystein! Indeed, it is the sort of details that you mention, that really set A2A aircraft apart from the rest. I love the fact that a proper walk around, run-up etc are required, as that’s all part of real world flying. As you say, neglect to carry these sorts of things out and an A2A aircraft will often punish you for it. I took the A2A Texan on an around-the-world tour a few years ago and it was a genuinely interesting experience, with some memorable moments (and failures haha) along the way. I already have another video planned for both the F28 and the Comanche, though I’m on my holidays at the moment, so it might be some time before I get around to recording anything. I hope you’re wallet is staring to recover ; ) Cheers once again!

[@noanykey]

Extremely excited to get into this one

[@geebee2262]

Great video, as always. I was waiting for your review, I have seen a lot of other reviewers getting really excited about this plane and I wanted to see what your opinion was, your reviews are always balanced and objective. Thank you for a fantastic review and now I'm off to spend 40 quid! 😁

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Well, thanks very much GeeBee! I do hope that you feel that the Comanche lived up to my assertions. I think it’s fair to say, that all of the hype surrounding the Comanche was completely justified. Many thanks for the kind words. Happy flying and all the best! : )

[@geebee2262]

The Hype is absolutely justified. It's an amazing plane that somehow makes you feel like you own it and you have to care for it. It's got one issue....I don't want to stop flying it. 👍😁

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha, well quite, Geebee. The only fix I can see there, is for A2A to bring us more aircraft! : P

[@andygm525]

Was thinking of a round the world trip in msfs using a plane like this, this would be perfect

[@StainlessRocky]

Already doing it :) Nice one to fly.

[@AboutOliver]

I'm thinking of doing the same thing!

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

A2A aircraft are indeed perfect for this sort of thing, Andy! The failure / wear and tear modelling really adds a whole new dimension to the endeavour. I took the A2A Texan around the virtual world a few years ago and it was a considerable but very interesting / memorable undertaking! Best of luck with it all! Cheers : )

[@stevejackson5557]

As always, superb, but please A2A, make ambient sounds available when engine is shut down and the door is open. It just adds so much more immersion into the environment, and it’s such a shame it’s not a feature at the moment.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

It’s a fair observation, Steve and I noticed the same thing myself. I guess the lack of sound internally, is due to the Comanche using external code for the aircraft’s sounds (rather than simply using the sim’s ambient sounds). Luckily, it’s only an issue for a small portion of the flight, but it does kill the immersion a little. Presumably, it wouldn’t be too tricky for A2A to address the issue, so hopefully they will do so at some point. Cheers, all the best! : )

[@gizmo104drives7]

Exactly the kind or nerdy attention to detail I like. As a non real pilot, i love to learn new things and this fits my around Europe trip perfectly Hope it is vr friendly 😊

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Enjoy your trip, Gizmo! I’m sure you will have a cracking time in the Comanche : )

[@andrewjamez]

Have Tim on light aircraft, the very first time I flew an A2A aircraft, I knew I wasn't in a game anymore!

[@TrevUk]

Thanks, been a while since i used commanche, this was amazing to get back into it. My pistons were siezed and needed replacing after such a break 😂

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thank you very much for your generous donation, Trev - it’s very much appreciated! I’m really glad you found the video useful; I’m afraid I don’t offer any tutorials on how to change a piston : P Happy flying and all the best : )

[@hmr171]

I think the fuel display USD is "fuel used". I'm a native Rhode Islander and we used to sail to Block Island in my father's sailboat.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Ahhh, you’re probably correct, HMR haha. That makes more sense. That must have been a very nice trip! I’m glad the video brought back some good memories : ) All the best!

[@MoisesSimana]

An add on like no other is correct. It is even more amazing in VR. WOW!

[@peterregan8691]

Great review of a superb add on! As for your sound problem, it’s most likely related to the FS2020 ‘exe.xml’ file. If for some reason the text in this file isn’t in the correct format, the A2A installer can’t insert the required section to autostart the sound module. Apparently the Fenix installer is a major culprit. Luckily the xml is easily edited and what worked for me was to correct the existing problem then re-run the A2A installer and it’ll install the required text. Also the view forward is angled down by 12.5 degrees so as to be optimised for a monitor but isn’t right for VR so I also edited the ‘cameras.cfg’ and changed the ‘initial pbh’ part to 0,0,0, this gives a straight forward view.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thank you very much for the info, Peter! That’s hugely helpful and much appreciated - I shall have to look into it. I’m really glad you enjoyed the video and indeed that you’re enjoying the Comanche! Happy flying and all the best : )

[@johnknapp952]

You forgot to mention the excellent manual (separate download). And from within the manual you can download that actual instrument manuals for the STEC and EDM.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Huh, I thought I had mentioned the manual, John. It must have slipped my mind during the conclusion then. . . The included manual is indeed excellent. Cheers, all the best!

[@davidh7280]

Nice review! I remember this in FSX, you had to purchase the GTN separately then, nice to see its included. They did this level 15 or so years ago and looks like they have achieved the same level in MSFS. Good standard for others to follow.

[@AlexWBKK]

the gtn isnt included ^^ But there is a freeware version in msfs. But it lacks features compared to the payware version.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thanks David, glad you enjoyed it! As stated by Alex, a GTN option is available for free (the PMS GTN 750), though it is not as detailed as the TDS GTNXi that I featured in the video (the Comanche supports both). A2A have indeed been putting out superb addons for many years; it’s great to see this level of quality now available in MSFS! Cheers, all the best : )

[@davidh7280]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations cheers, I got the free PMS version, all I need really! I got my old friend back, just like FSX days....she's a beauty 😍

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha, great! Happy flying, David : )

[@paulkirkland3263]

Great to see A2A back.

[@stephenbull2026]

Been waiting for A2A to join the roster in MSFS since day one. They have not disappointed and demonstrated can be achieved and what we can now expect from this simulator. One fun thing I would like to see is a having a “Rental” option whereby you are flying a used aircraft that may have 1,2 or 3 faults with it. Assuming you do the walkaround and pre-flight checks properly you should pick these up. If not, if the fault causes a crash, you get an NTSB report showing the cause of the crash. Maybe in 2024 ? 😀

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Hello Stephen, I believe the “auction” option (from the tablet) is essentially what you’re after. I haven’t tried it myself, but I gather it gives you Comanche in a used state : ) I hope that helps a little. Cheers!

[@hobanagerik]

As a selling point, I would say if you are struggling with crosswind landings, and takeoffs, and find yourself skewing about on the runway, get this, and immediately reevaluate your skills. And also learn some new skills needed, like actually needing to turn into the wind after landing to keep the upwind wing down. A superb plane, and highly recommended.

[@conlethbyrne4809]

Awesome, I don't think I have seen this in full. Last time I flew, it had good fun & very realistic SlainteP. S. Worked out the intall problem, Cheers 🍻 👍

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Glad you got things sorted Conleth and that you’re still enjoying the Comanche. I need to get back in the aircraft myself at some point! Happy flying and have a great day : )

[@sascenturion]

Excellent review of an excellent aircraft Well done to A2A and to ITB 😊👍

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thanks very much Centurion! I’m really glad you enjoyed the review and indeed, I hope you’re enjoying the excellent Comanche also. Much appreciated and all the best to you : )

[@johnotooledoggames2336]

Hi from Dublin Ireland 🇮🇪 Wow this is totally brilliant magnificent flying 🛫and brilliant scenery

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thanks very much John, I’m really glad you enjoyed the video / flight! Cheers from across the water and all the best : )

[@jay-rus4437]

This is a really interesting plane. Unfortunately I just dont fly small GA aircraft, so it simply wouldnt get any use. But looks like they did a great job

[@aaronrazz9676]

Awesome flight! Great model thanks for sharing

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thanks you very much once again, sir! My pleasure, as always. Have a great day : )

[@johncrichton4341]

With a title such as that I simply cannot ignore this one!

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha, I think it’s a fair title John, at least within the realms of MSFS. If you did end up picking up the Comanche, I do hope you’re enjoying it! All the best : )

[@aurel42]

The A2A hype is real. Thanks for your review (tbh, it's been a while since I watched one of your reviews to the end, mainly because of limited interest in many of the planes you reviewed recently, also because I generally don't like when developers hand out review copies before release, for personal reasons). You mentioned the download limit in the A2A store as a negative. If people have an issue with that (I don't, I've never used up all my downloads, and I trust that developers using this system, like MilViz (Blackbird) or A2A, would reset the counter if necessary), they could just wait until the product is available from another store with a different policy. I think it would be fair to mention the other side of the issue: with A2A planes you don't have to worry about serial numbers or DRM. Unpack, install, and you're done. They don't punish paying customers for the misdeeds of others. Regarding running the audio helper manually, as I understand it, the main reason for this happening is that MSFS fails to read the exe.xml fully because some other add-on introduced a syntax error in the XML, and MSFS only parsed the file up to that point. Checking the file (there are XML validators online) and perhaps fixing that syntax error should resolve the issue for most people.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha, indeed Marc; I think that A2A thoroughly deserves every bit of praise they receive for the Comanche (and any of their other addons)! The download limit isn’t a major issue and I know why A2A have chosen to have one of course, but I imagine it does little to stop any piracy and whilst A2A may handle such things in a reasonable fashion, not all addon developers do. I do have a few other addons where I’m almost bumping up against my download limit. . . As you say though, no DRM protection etc, which is great. Thanks very much for the info regarding the my sound issues! I shall have to take a look at the exe.xml when I get a chance. Much appreciated and all the best! : )

[@reedi30]

Superb, love it, pnly gripe for now is that it doesn’t look like it has any glass in the windows from some angles, particularly in VR, maybe it’s a little too clean?

[@hummerz]

good looking aircraft. enjoy your uploads thank you

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thanks very much Michael! My pleasure on the videos, I’m really glad you’re enjoying them : ) Cheers and all the best!

Brilliant as always 👍 In the same way aircraft such as this one sets the bar, your reviews do. Maybe the time has come to let the PMDG 737 rest for a while and do some GA hopping 😊

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thank you very much for the kind words Richard, high praise indeed! A2A really are the gold standard and it’s great to see them actively back in the hobby. Haha, GA hopping is (in my opinion) where MSFS really shines. Maybe the 737 can go in for a spot of maintenance ; ) Happy flying and all the best : )

[@metulski737]

As always: perfect.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha, very kind indeed, Peter! Much appreciated and all the best : )

[@Colorado_Ronin]

I wish it had a more modern autopilot, but everything else is perfect

[@danmorand3658]

I've owned the plane across two sims already so not likely to buy it again for MSFS. That said, A2A really just "gets it" when it comes to delivering a top notch sim flight experience. I'd surely buy the T-6 Texan if they bring it to MSFS. Or the military turboprop trainer they wanted to bring in. Good review, as always.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thanks very much Dan, I’m glad you enjoyed the video! I 100% agree re A2A. I would love to see a return of the Texan (one of my most used aircraft in P3D) and I’m really holding out for A2A’s Spitfire (my favourite sim addon of all time). Cheers and all the best! : )

[@jaysmith4302]

Well done, as always. Do you remember the superb A2A Boeing 377 from the FSX days? It was every bit the equal of the PMDG DC-6, if not better. Dare we hope to see it one day in MSFS?

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Cheers Jay! I certainly remember the A2A 377, though I never had a chance to fly it myself (I always wanted to, but was too poor at the time haha). I can certainly imagine that the Stratocruiser would trump PMDG’s DC6 as again, I don’t think anyone does engine modelling quite like A2A (and of course, handling the engines is half of the challenge with those vintage monsters). I really hope we’ll see all of A2A’s previous lineup at some point, but sadly we’ll probably have to wait a very long time for that to come to fruition. All the best : )

[@Danko05]

Great video and great addon from what I saw.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thanks very much Danko, I’m glad you enjoyed it! The Comanche is indeed a great effort from A2A : ) Cheers, all the best!

[@mikeallen789]

Great review & video. Will be adding this to the hanger. Can I ask what ATC you are using? Sounds great & much better than default sounding ATC

[@MrSunlander]

Finally bought this. They did not deal with our ability to make the pilot disappear. I loved this plane in P3D. Would really love having the AT-6 (and the B-17?) Cheers! The AP is sluggish, even in HI, so I prefer using the heading setting. Just me.....

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Hi Mr S, There is a roundabout way of removing the pilot (detailed by A2A, in the pinned comment) however, I think an option via the tablet would have been easier. I’m eagerly awaiting any further A2A offerings but, especially one of their warbirds (with the Spitfire MKI being a personal dream ; ) Happy flying, sir! : )

[@MrSunlander]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations Was flying again today (before I read this) and I wound up using heading as well. I heard A2A made a Zero once. That's a fantasy..... Still, we have much to keep us occupied and entertained these days, huh?

[@briancota4544]

Great video. Thank you

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thank you very much once again, Brian! A2A made this one easy for me haha. I’m glad you enjoyed it. All the best : )

[@sailwesterly5444]

Great video - you're as enthusiastic about A2A as I am. I was hoping you'd demo if the Headphone jack cut the engine/ enviro sounds as they did in FSX/ P3D.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thanks very much, SW! Yes, I’ve always been a big fan of A2A and their work; it’s great to finally see them in MSFS. I’m glad the enthusiasm came across haha. I had actually meant to demo the headphone jack, but invariably I forget at least one thing during a review ha. Happy flying and all the best! : )

[@Jack-Wall]

A2A will surely provide addition downloads if these are ever necessary. I noticed the review was done in the early hours, bravo on the dedication. The sounds issue you have experienced is a concern. If this is more commonly reported issue, hopefully A2A will respond. S!

[@peterregan8691]

The sound problem is affecting a few users, it’s in the A2A forum. It’s related to an improperly formatted ‘exe.xml’ file but is easily fixed.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Hi Jack, I suspect A2A would readily reset the download limit, but with some devs this process is more reliable than with others. Having a download limit is a little pet peeve of mine, though of course I understand why devs do it and I can’t say that I blame them really. The sound issue is slightly annoying, but it seems that the root cause has already been figured out, so hopefully a fix can be implemented quickly (if the first patch hasn’t already taken care of it). Haha, my pleasure on the dedication! Thanks for watching and all the best : )

[@ExpiredToast11]

just bought and love the tablet feature. all teh checklists and info are right there. they should make missions where you can train emergencies and checklists. rather than doing it manually. but this is major improvement from fsx

[@psour33]

Flew six hours for now in this beauty. The plane is awesome. I use to fly the 138HP 55% rated economic profile @10000' for now, as I try to keep my new plane 🤣 in perfect shape as long as I can. I missed A2A quality aircrafts in MSFS, I don't regret the money, She's the best for me now.

[@bluesfool1]

Great review. I purchased yesterday and it is amazing. Although, I’m not sure how I did it, but I had it up on the jacks and I think it fell off or something, but it crashed. Lol

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thanks very much Jason, I’m glad you enjoyed it! Haha, well I do hope you managed to pick your Comanche back up off the floor and that you are now enjoying flying the aircraft. I’m sure it’ll buff out XD Cheers! : )

[@andywerner400]

Good afternoon/evening from Seattle. Just took my MSFS A2A Comanche for a test flight this morning and it is at the bar we expect for an A2A offering. I flew the previous Flight Sim SE version frequently and the MSFS Comanche is just lovely with all the details and systems modeled. As always this is an appetizer for more airplanes from my favorite developer. MSFS badly needs a good P51D and I am praying to the sim gods for A2A to deliver 🙏🏻 Great review as always and looking forward to the next video!

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Hello Andy, I hope you’re keeping well! I’m really glad the Comanche lived up to your expectations. A2A set the bar high with their previous efforts, but have completely outdone themselves in MSFS. A good P-51 would be very welcome (I have another P-51-related video coming soon actually), but it’s the A2A Spit that I’m really holding out all of my hopes for ; ) Many thanks again! Have a lovely day in Seattle : )

[@andywerner400]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations Good call! I would happily take an Accusim 2.0 version of the Spit Mk1 which is my very favorite variant of the Spit!

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Likewise, Andy! ; )

[@06L]

I agree with your conclusion as always! My quick and easy way to check the realism of an aircraft's mass and inertia on MSFS, is to look at the compression of the landing gear suspension on touchdown and the Comanche from A2A Simulation reproduces the physics quite well. On the other hand, a maximum of 10 downloads for a purchase hurts my demanding consumer side. A2A should take inspiration from Just Flight for their impeccable customer service (no max downloads). A2A missed the opportunity to use the realistic visual rendering that MSFS 2020 masters so well. The Comanche looks flat (2D instead of 3D) and washed out (no PBR: Physically Based Rendering), as it doesn't reflect "really" the aircraft's environment (ground, buildings, clouds, etc.). PBR is the new norm now... and the crown jewel of MSFS 2020-24!

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha, well thanks very much 06L, I’m glad you feel that I broadly hit the nail on the head! ; ) The download limit is a shame. Quite a few people are perplexed as to why I brought it up. 1) I do own one or two addons, where I’m knocking up against the limit (some devs handle this just fine, but not all). 2) It’s a product that I’ve purchased. So psychologically, it just grates a little, when I’m told how many times I can download it. 3) If the dev isn’t on their A-game, it can mean a couple of days without being able to use a product, whilst one waits for their download limit to be restored. Is there no PBR on the Comanche then?? As I mentioned during the review, I thought the texturing looked a bit “off”, but I couldn’t quite put my finger on it. A very strange choice from A2A. . . The product is still excellent, but PBR rendering is virtually a given these days. Thanks for your thoughts and all the best! : )

[@AntGG77]

No way! I was just at kpou/hudson valley yesterday irl (my local airport(

[@jamesmurawski44]

Wow, I'm impressed! Felt just like performing a pre-flight walk-around years back during flight training. The sounds, visuals, the small details, it looks like an absolute joy. Thank you! I'm curious, if you were to "forget" removing one of the tie-downs on the wing, would the aircraft proceed to do circles on the apron while applying power to taxi out? Saw this happen back in the day to a fellow peer during flight training, wondering if there is true "fidelity" 🤣

[@FunktasticLucky]

I did an auction aircraft to get done wear and tear. I started to do my walk around and the left aileron was kind of sticky and was squeaking a lot. Started playing with it more and then decided to have my passenger start moving the yoke to move the ailerons and the damn thing broke. That could have been super disastrous. Freaking love this plane

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha, that’s not one I’ve tried myself, James, but it would be interesting to see the end result XD The Comanche is indeed a real joy of an addon. If you picked the aircraft up, I do hope you’re having fun! Cheers and all the best : )

[@FunktasticLucky]

Actually yes. Someone posted on discord that when they released the parking brake the plane would just go in circles. Turns out they forgot to remove the tie down.

[@jamesmurawski44]

@@FunktasticLucky I'm sold!!

[@dreambound.]

Man this is a lovely plane. Excellent detail all around the machine. Seems like it's definitely worth a buy - for myself as well. Really love all the features of the engine management. Looks really satisfying. Sounds satisfying too - nice crisp sounds. Now who do I need to bribe at A2A to also get a PC-6 Turbo Porter with the same quality? As always thank you for the review!

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Cheers, Dream! The Comanche is on the pricier side, but definitely worth the money. Haha, you’ll have to join the queue; I’ll be backhanding A2A fistfuls of £50 notes, in order to get their Spitfire MKI back up in the air : P A pleasure as always, sir! : )

[@dreambound.]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations With the amount of quality, detail and depth going into the Comanche I don't mind the product being priced steeper at all. In this case it pretty much goes back to the old saying "you get what you pay for". Now a Spitfire would be lovely as well. But perhaps something else could be nice too since we already have a few Spitfires available. I certainly wouldn't FW-190 since I'm not aware of any mod for this aircraft. However the Turbo Porter would still be a dream come true.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Absolutely! FlyingIron are working on an FW190 as we speak : ) True, that we already have a couple of Spitfires available in the sim and I gather Flight Replicas are working on a MKV also (at one point in time, Aeroplane Heaven were also working on a MKV, so who knows whether we’ll get both haha), but none of those will be an *A2A* Spitfire : P Cheers Dream!

[@CCitis]

It truly is the most realistic airplane in the sim. No doubt. It flies like a real airplane does. One critique I would give is that the wind noise is overwhelming with any vents open in the cabin…. A touch too much. But I’m grasping. I would also agree about the texturing. A touch basic… compare it to the FI BF109…. Not quite there. I won’t be flying much else now. I also forgot how capable the Comanche is. A very stable aircraft, and also can get in and out of fairly short strips too.

[@GapeGang]

You can add sound proofing in tablet

[@michaelheely]

Hello great review as always ! You missed out the towing feature:) I think the level of detail didn’t get through completely. I watched a few dev videos and it is absolutely amazing how deep the engine and systems are modelled. You can hear 1 Zylinder failure in the sounds. The sounds for example when taxing on gras were made by towing the real plane with a car so there is no engine sound. The product is made with passion and love. It’s also rare to see such perfectionism. The Xbox version which just came out has just a minor. A product like no other. That said it all :)

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Hello again Michael, Thanks very much for your thoughts and I’m glad you enjoyed the video! For sure, I didn’t cover every single aspect of the product but, I don’t think I could have done whilst still keeping the video at a “reasonable” length. I purposefully chose not to focus on the towing feature (though I did make mention of it) and whilst it would have been nice to cover some failures, I will have to save that for another day. I think I may have given some examples of the lengths that A2A went to, in order to produce the Comanche but, either way, the addon is clearly a product of passion and love, as you say! The Comanche is one of a kind currently and I can’t wait for more A2A addons in MSFS : ) Cheers and all the best!

[@michaelheely]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations Good morning, all good sir as always you make good reviews if not the best. I just had the feeling the people won’t realise how deep this simulation goes. I cannot fly other planes as nothing matches the feeling of realism this plane gives me. This plastic bag that stuck in the air intakes…walkarounds are needed :) happy sunday!

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

I’m 2 weeks late haha but, a very happy Sunday (and Happy Easter) to you also! : )

[@stevemac3752]

Nice review. Having heaps of fun with this plane at the expense of every other plane in my hangar. Any chance of a quick tutorial on how to use the ED380 for rich of peak leaning at high altitudes? Sorry I'm a total newb at this lol.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thanks very much Steve, I’m glad you enjoyed the video! I know exactly what you mean and you aren’t the only person feeling that way about the Comanche haha. I’m afraid regarding your request, it would be the blind leading the blind ha! I haven’t had much of a look at the ED830 myself and I’m certainly not all that familiar with the unit; I tend not to like making tutorials, unless I’m confident about the content I’m covering. Sorry I can’t be of more help on that one. Happy flying and all the best! : )

[@Banquet...]

Great video and seems like an awesome aircraft - very tempted! What it the ATC going on in the background? Ooh, and what are the fps like?

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Hello Banquet, The ATC is real-world recordings, which I’ve then edited into the video. There is actually an ATC chatter app available for MSFS though, if that’s the sort of thing you’re after : ) I hope that helps. I’m really glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks very much and all the best!

[@hobanagerik]

One minor fault with it is the animation of the yokes. They aren’t as smooth as other planes, such as the Asobo default 172.

[@friendhui4320]

Just bought it. It’s awesome. Best plane in MSFS. I 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 🎉🎉🎉

[@madyoda]

Omg. This just came out on xbox. I'm so getting this. Best plane I've seen in sim.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Oh, nice! I wasn’t expecting that haha; I’ve no idea how A2A managed to pull that one off (given that the Comanche uses an external flight model). Happy flying and all the best : )

[@ClausThanner]

Mate ;-) As always - your reviews are second to none! Solid - always. I agree in your parallel comparison to PMDG - this A2A product is to GA aircraft what PMDG are to the Pax Jet Airliners. Just a teaser - Let´s be honest - on a day flight sortie, like in your review, you wouldn´t necessarily check any of the lights, other than the beacon light, on your walk around/external inspection..? Would you IRL? Honestly, no harm done in doing it, other than often the batts on these "old Ladies" are not always fresh and new and considering that you may want to preserve every bit of Voltage for the engine starter.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thanks very much Claus! Very kind of you to say and I’m glad you enjoyed the review : ) Haha, well I don’t really do any GA flying these days. When I was flying GA, I would typically check all of the lights; your point is a valid one though and on some aircraft, I would do a quick whiz around of the lights pitot etc, then turn the battery off and continue on with the rest of the walkaround. I never got caught out, although on one occasion I did come close, in a clapped-out C152 haha XD Cheers and all the best!

[@ClausThanner]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations got ya! ;.)

[@Streaky100001]

To quote a recent great movie: *When climbing into A2A aircraft in MSFS* "It's been a minute huh Mav?"

[@BiGVERTi]

For a work around for removing the pilot for external shots, enter walk around mode then change your camera to external view. Pilot no longer visible.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thanks very much, Andrew! Very helpful and very much appreciated : ) Happy flying and all the best!

[@StainlessRocky]

I figured it with the sound. Just before you switch to the desktop press END for outside view and go to the desktop, no sound so far with this setting. The sound only plays when in cockpit.

[@peterregan8691]

Check their forum, your fs2020 ‘exe.xml’ file could be in an incorrect format.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Hello Michael, As outlined by Peter, apparently there is an installation issue with the Comanche, that can course problems with the sounds (I experienced this myself). I haven’t tried the workaround myself yet, but I’m sure it will be detailed online. I hope that helps a little. All the best! : )

[@patrickskahill6530]

Thanks for the great review, going to pick this up now. Just curious what the radio chatter program is you are using also? Thanks. Hoping A2A eventually revives their P51 for MSFS as well.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thanks very much Patrick, I’m glad you enjoyed it! The ATC is real-world recordings, which I’ve then edited into the video. There is actually an ATC chatter app available for MSFS though, if that’s the sort of thing you’re after : ) I’d love to see the A2A Mustang in MSFS and doubly keeping my fingers crossed for their Spitfire MKI ; ) I hope that helps. All the best!

[@patrickskahill6530]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations Appreciated!

[@pythosdegothos6181]

** What traffic are you using where the parked aircraft are not generic? ** That preflight feature is positively insanely awesome. As a mechanic not a fan of the Comanche in real life. They are not easy to work on, have a horrendous AD on the stabilator, and the cockpit is just difficult to work under the instrument panel. Many have had an illegal modification of the brake calipers that leads to notches cut into the main spar which as you can imagine weakens the main spar of the friggin wing, That said, this simulation is just incredible. I mean, it even has a sound for the mechanical rotatating beacon. That is just a gorgeous simulation.

[@Guerry-3]

Thank-you for your comment. I truly enjoy reading from those who are exierienced in real life and are able to compare reality with a simulator. Thank-you again.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha, jeeez. . . Cutting into the main spar - what could possibly go wrong?? : O The Comanche does sound like a bit of a dog then (at least from a maintenance perspective) and it’s not my favourite GA aircraft by a long stretch. Being an A2A Aeroplane, I knew it was going to be a “must have” though haha (I had no idea about the rotating beacon!). I have started using FSTL traffic, but I believe the (static) traffic on the ramp, was actually part of the freeware scenery I was using (available from Flightsim.to). I hope that helps a little. Cheers once again! : )

[@pythosdegothos6181]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thank you for the traffic info. I don't really mind the "generic" planes, but I also do wish for more of the actual ones, and having an A-300 standing in for an F-22 is just silly.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

100%! I wish Asobo would give us the option to enable / disable installed addons as AI traffic. It really kills the immersion sometimes, when you rock up and see a totally inappropriate aircraft sitting on the ramp. . .