Introducing Crossfire - World War Two wargaming

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This video introduces the viewer to a particular set of wargame rules by Arty Conliffe. They are unusual in many ways, perhaps chief among these their simplicity, their lack of a turn sequence, and their not needing measurements with rulers. I argue that they produce realistic results, and are fun to play.
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Introducing Crossfire - World War Two wargaming
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[@imGrumpyErnie]

Would be great to see Lindy have a game of this against someone to show exactly how it works

[@NoFlu]

*Watches Lindy for like a year* "HMM I'd like to get into wargames but I want ww1/2 era games" *KZbin search "WW2 wargame* *Clicks random video, on mobile so no name in the pre-view* *Camera shoot* "What a nice setting" *Jump cut, suddenly Lindy* "Wait what."

[@thegoblingremlin4435]

I have been late for three years, but may I suggest bolt action

[@puppyenemy]

Hey! I demand a "battle report" of this! I don't care if it's a 20-30-minute video or more, I want to see you play it!

[@Gokotti]

Bought the book, convinced a friend to join and bought two companies of infantry per player. At this point we've only played 2 games, but we've spent tens of hours crafting the miniatures and terrain. So much fun.

[@DonWoschto]

"It's exciting, fluid" and not available on German Amazon.

[@manictiger]

+DonWoschto I always found it interesting how, in the pursuit of 'preventing Nazism', they've become Nazis.

[@ruolbu]

+manictiger I think in this specific case it's less about Germany preventing WW2 symbols from being available and more about Crossfire being seriously niche and hard to find in general ;) +DonWoschto Have you ever managed to find a set of rules?

[@DonWoschto]

Unfortunately not. But I didn't really go out of my way to find it - I'm sure it's out there somewhere!

[@ruolbu]

DonWoschto I was in the same boat and did some digging. If you don't mind the amorality of it, this link will live for the next 30 days or so: www26.zippyshare.com/v/Q6SUXzXw/file.html

[@DonWoschto]

Well, I do mind the amorality of it. But I want those rules! Thanks a lot! :-)

[@Mikkhailov]

I'd be interested in here more about this game Lindybeige. I've personally always been interested in table-top gaming, 40k and D&D but finding a community has the hardest part, so I must live through other peoples eyes like yours, so please do atleast a couple more videos on this topic!

[@gonavygonavy1193]

How's the online multiplayer? Does it lag?

[@haijyvelho]

I couldn't even get to any servers the first time I tried to. And finally when I got to a server the enemy just stood still and did nothing. So I won every match. 6/5 online multiplayer, would play again.

[@haijyvelho]

***** What do you mean? Are you saying I spent all those hours THINKING I was playing Crossfire online? Hmm. No wonder the enemy didn't move.

[@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin]

10 frames per second is UNPLAYABLE.

[@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin]

***** ten atta ten

[@Velindian]

There's a lot of hitbox issues and desyncs, probably because the matchmaking connects people from canada to russia or china to england most of the time. I'd reccomend setting up a private server if you can.

[@ThalesII]

I'd love to see more videos like this, I could honestly watch a full 30 minutes if it were that long

[@evilassaultweaponeer]

Hmm, I've got it! Send both squads of Space Marines into a charge up the center and use your Whirlwind rocket artillery tank to decimate anyone who exposes himself to take a shot! Wait, oh.

[@Noinoi_]

Lol, who uses Whirlwinds? Just ally with AM and throw in a Wyvern. Can't go wrong with some Priests for your Termies to reroll all your saves in CC for 25 pts, too. ;)

[@Wetcorps]

And this is why I'm glad I stopped 40k years ago.

[@Noinoi_]

Wetcorps I'm only still playing it because i have a big army already, and because it's pretty tough to find people playing other wargames around here.

[@evilassaultweaponeer]

Elavion Dremorill Sell it off and buy the entire Dawn of War collection! :-D

[@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin]

Elavion Dremorill Screw that, just use space marine SSJ4 power level 9000 with decimator scourge widowmaker rockets and ultra-power fists to get three re-rolls and +2000 to windfury (boosts attack speed).

[@tofuchicken2]

Sounds really fun, hearing you talk about it got me all excited.

[@DIRTYYETTI]

This sounds fun also I’ve been wanting to checkout H.G. Wells Little Wars. I feel you could use any scale for these type of rule sets for wargaming

[@ScrollsAdventures]

I think I'd really enjoy more videos on this game. You seem to really be enthusiastic about it, which is always an awesome thing in your videos. Maybe you could go in depth a little more about how some of the mechanics work and why they works so well in making you "think like a commander" compared to other wargames, or something like that. Definitely interesting. I'll have to look this game up :)

[@chancerNW]

Its great to see one of the classic rules sets being discussed, though its not one I've evere relay looked at before. Great vid.

[@Squaddie_Plays]

I still come back this video time and again out of fascination. Wish youd come back to it in greater detail

[@sabberi]

0:26 You have a Finnish version of The Lord of The Rings board game?

[@VoodooTheGhost]

Would it be possible to have you upload a play session of Crossfire? It looks really neat

[@JackHawkin5]

More videos about Crossfire please!

[@timmarshall1447]

Dear LB, that was simply marvellous, all three videos, what a great job. Cheers!

[@OutbackCatgirl]

For us wargame-fans, I don't suppose there's the future possibility of having a full match recorded? Would mean more work for you, but since some people like trimmed and edited material and others like to see the entire process (especially when things don't go quite according to plan... every double take, every light-bulb moment is wickedly awesome to see) it may be worth it. By the way, how long did it take to set up that magnificent table? Is there any upper limit on the size of the playing field beyond whatever you have available? Could it even be possible for people to play a 1:1 scale match, using real people and life-size props? Because that... would be the most awesome thing I've ever seen.

[@olympictreehugger]

1:1 scale? At that point you should just play paintball. :P

[@Kram1032]

chandelure99 let's go all the way to 5:1 :D

[@zedzadic]

I'm very much looking forward to a longer explanation of the rules. Been in looking for a good WWII wargame for a long time now.

[@maximilianoparcio8782]

We need more videos like this Mr Beige!!

[@Gool349]

I would love a longer video where you play a short game of this or something!

[@John-iv2oz]

Any have any input as to how adaptable this rule system would be for a scifi setting as compared to oh say warhammer 40k miniatures??? GW's rules generally suck. lol

[@clockwork5986]

John try stargrunt 2 the rules are free. Also I know I'm 2 years too late

[@cicelywhite945]

When it was open, Charles Sharp was a regular at American Eagles hobby store in Tacoma Washington. I remember in 1996 after the annual Enfilade Wargaming convention, Charles came in with these rules he was really excited about... It was Crossfire and its been my favorite game since!

[@Captain-Jinn]

Got my rulebook. Absolutely crazy and so much more fun than the other wargames I've played (Warhammer mostly)

[@DZSabre]

That sounds like it was a lot of fun and gives me a few ideas for my game group. I hope you are able to do something like it again... with a staff of your own though to make it manageable.

[@mjc9057]

This sounds absolutely awesome. Any recommendations on where to pick up the little table top models?

[@SEdwards2881]

Awesome! Ive been playing and enjoying Bolt Action. Its a very tense and FUN game. I really want to check this out now! Thanks for the Vid.

[@asiamackey65]

Greatest game ever! Charles Sharp brought the beta of this game to our hobby store in 95...

[@EebstertheGreat]

I would love to see a video on the board game _Axis & Allies_. Board games are much more my style than tabletop, and though I have only played this game maybe half a dozen times in total, and never really properly understood the strategy, I always felt like it was a very deep game. In particular, I played _Pacific_ (a different board from _Europe_ with slightly different rules), in which Japan must establish a powerful early lead with its initial advantage or be slowly ground to dust by USA's grossly superior economy. Do you think the Allies have an advantage in this game? If not, do you have any ideas about how Japan should start?

[@isaacderr2799]

Lindy is such a damn creative, wonderful, kind, wild, smart dude.

[@corrosionsting]

we need more crossfire videos

[@JudgeDeadMJ]

Eric Plasencia sure do

[@commissarluke2898]

I play crossfire on tabletop simulator. It's never too late because this game is bloody amazing. I am even launching operations like he did in his operation crossfire videos.

[@Darlos9D]

This sounds awesome. I'd like to see variants for other settings.

[@KarimTheilgaard]

This was the first WW2 miniatures game I played and loved it! I enjoyed playing Flames of War too but as you said that can end up as an unfinished slog fest.

[@dereks338]

I’m just starting to get into table top games like this because of this video, but I came back just cuz I’m having a bit of trouble laying out the terrain on my table. Is there any standard way to do this? Are there a number of lanes that it should have? Any tips will help out! Thanks!

[@jeddak]

Sounds intriguing. Wondering if you've tried his medieval rules _Tactica_, and whether these rules are similar to _Crossfire_.

[@stringfly1]

Sounds good, Where do we get the rule book???? Got lots of Bolt Action and working on the game board.

[@awesomepoop321]

More of this please!

[@luc1as]

Looks like an intriguing system. Do you have any medieval wargames you would recommend Lindy? As I really wouldn't mind branching out from Warhammer.

[@kazzjarmin]

What size of models does it use, or recommend? They look bigger than 16mm, but not 28mm (heroic) possibly true 28mm?

[@XCritonX]

It would actually be interesting to see you and a few friends setup a table, play a whole game and make witty banter. It will make a long video, but people put up long videos of themselves playing video games and saying stupid things all the time, this would be so much better!

[@norrinradd6746]

The use of only a small number of d6s is what drew me to the old shadowrun tabletop rpgs. If you had a copy of the basic rules, it was possible to play the game with nothing but printed character sheets and the dice from a yatzee box.

[@forlornfoe352]

Very interesting stuff, I have had absolutely no experience with such board games exactly because I don't like sluggish turns with loads of dices (biased image right there). Thanks for bringing this up, would gladly watch deeper introduction or even a match against someone. Also, how come you have Finnish Lord of the Rings (far as I can see the title) boardgame? That's been haunting me the whole video.

[@ethan5354]

What brand of figures do you use for your British infantry? They look very familiar but I can't put my finger on it.

[@ajazzforrock]

I like this. Maybe we could see some gameplay footage?

[@timothypryor7952]

They play this along with other wargames at my local game shop. It's fun. I haven't played it in ages.

[@lebbyfoxx3940]

what miniatures do you use? i would very much like to get into this wargame, so I'd like to know what brand they are and where you can get them :)

[@Barnaby_bo]

Nice jumper. We used to play this as kids after seeing a similar thing on Why Don't You. Remember that?

[@coolguy92328]

Would definitely like to see more of this.

[@StutleyConstable]

What scale are the figures? Do the rules even require a specific scale since there are no measurements necessary? Could this also be adapted to shipboard actions like the scene in 'The Sand Pebbles' where Steve McQueen has to cut the cable across the river so the gunboat can sail to safety?

[@Shepuz]

I noticed a finnish package of Lord Of The Rings on the background (Taru Sormusten Herrasta), what exactly is that and how did you get your hands on a finnish version of it?

[@Rafferty1968]

How do you measure range? Sorry, its Bolt Action for me. All the tactical and strategic elements but with no 'initiative', just the random event sequence of real battle. And the miniatures are gorgeous. (28mm/1:56 is the perfect scale for toy soldiers lol)

[@21owlgirl72]

Can we get a video of a full crossfire game? Maybe it can be in parts? Ive always wanted to play these but never got the chance to.

[@weirdwwii8775]

Fantastic ramble!

[@crackwiser]

Looks cool, sounds somehow like the tabletop version of Close Combat PC games series (which I would strongly recommend by the way to people who like tactical simulation type of war games!) One thing: How do you manage the fog of war, or the spotting of enemy troops? Do you turn your back when the other guy moves his troops or something? :)

[@byezs]

More please, I'd love to know more.

[@AussieAnnihilation]

i was a 40k player but got fed up with all the rulebook changes and price rises, it doesn't seem like crossfire would be like that, am i right? This looks good to me.

[@Gh0stClown]

That is an exceedingly messy room you have there.

[@superstrudel]

To me, a wargaming room have to be like that!

[@daver5120]

See? I've told him that before as well, and he replied that he saw no mess.... Pffft...

[@lindybeige]

What makes you say that? You can see behind me, I have things stacked neatly on shelves. There is no mess.

[@lpsp442]

Lindybeige Some people are allergic to stacks. Just my experience.

[@daver5120]

Well in my experience professors and games tend to have a lot of clutter. 'Cause y'know they have a lot of reference books, etc. So its understandable, 'cause you're like the professor of gaming, and all, so yknow Lindy that kind of thing is to be expected, and it kind of fits with your eccentric/mad scientist/professor/gamer thing you got goin' on. Plus you tend to have more important things on your mind, like how impractical Orc weaponry is, or the nutritional value of Kobold flesh, something to that effect.. LOL.. Anyways that's my take on it.. :)

[@TheSparda81]

Lloyd, question, since crossfire is quite difficult to find, I've been looking into a game called Bolt Action. Now my question is this, do you have any experience with this game, and is it any good?

[@Jacob-yg7lz]

If I can't afford a massive table set up and figurines, can I just paint a board with terrain features and use lego people instead?

[@VoidDankest]

+Jacob Furrow Nice imagination!

[@MrChilliJalapeno]

Are there official crossfire miniatures or are they made by some other company. Also where could I order them?

[@seanmckeown5761]

Hey Lloyd, Have you taken a look at the "Tabletop Simulator"? I've never played crossfire but really want to now, however my life style has me moving around a lot and keeping miniatures and a board in working condition would be a nightmare. I'm hoping some more wargame type add-ons for the Tabletop Simulator come about so we can play some crossfire! Just imagine doing your operation crossfire on an online platform.

[@Trve_Kvlt]

Where can I buy pieces for Crossfire? I can't seem to find anything.

[@GrasshopperKelly]

Lindybeige, I'm genuinely curious how you never did a series on this :/ It IS a good tabletop game and your passionate enough about it to do one... and we desperately need one from the point of view of someone like you :P (someone who's read enough to know which history books are fiction xD)

[@SiriusMined]

Interesting. Novel approach to battle dynamics.

[@tinywargames892]

Great rules, use on our grass mats, great game!

[@bambam144]

cool video now i have a goal to finish my 1:87 battalions. :P have given up the whole thing since i have flash point, arma, steel panthers and co.

[@henrygarratt2801]

Hallo loyd what scale. Figures do you use 1/76 or 1/72?

[@Maggers42]

Does anyone know if these rules are still available anywhere? Would be interested in giving them a bash.

[@Indoor_Carrot]

I was thinking of collecting flames of war, this looks interesting too though :)

[@commissarluke2898]

I play crossfire on tabletop simulator. It's never too late because this game is bloody amazing. I am even launching operations like he did in his operation crossfire videos.

[@madichelp0]

This actually seems quite fun.

[@erebostd]

Recognized the munchkin box in an instant :D

[@shizzbizz1972]

Is there one for the Pacific Theater, I want some juicy naval combat.

[@abculattera4446]

I wonder what this kind of ruleset would be like if applied to other settings, such as medieval or warhammer/40k...?

[@millmack9012]

Dear lindybeige I would like to create my own table top game based in a post apocalyptic world but I'm not 100% set on the rules and so forth but would appreciate any ideas

[@millmack9012]

Heck I'm also writing a plot to a Tv animation series i would love for some advice as it is partly historical I'll spare the details at this time for prying eyes haha

[@ThePlaydohboy]

I think I was born in the wrong era....I would have loved this game as a child.

[@stephencrompton4352]

same, total war is the closest I have to it

[@sailorofthesoul1945]

Steve Spencer Except every total war game has AI that's afflicted with down syndrome. Multiplayer is fun though.

[@stephencrompton4352]

Sailor of the Soul yeah but I still find medevieal 2 fun after all these years

[@bluefishtattoos]

i have both games! they are great!!!

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

i play miniture war games, not cross fire i play flames of war which is closer to battalion level as i can field multiple companys or just one with a lot of support platoons but you could find games anywhere

[@mikevinturner]

This looks like a system I want to play!

[@corrosionsting]

We need more crossfire videos

[@paolomorresi3183]

Please, make a review of Crossfire: Medieval Warfare! (I hope it exists somewhere)

[@duke0mtg]

where do you get the minis?

[@somebloke8114]

Is this very similar or even compatible with Flames of War

[@Crouchy232323]

So is it like soduko? Except with numbers?

[@user-js8jh6qq4l]

WHERE do I buy the corebook/whatever original rule compilation there is? All I can find online is additions n side materials. ffs

[@Cokecakepopcorn]

Making a set up for all of this for myself, but can't find the rules anywhere or anything about the whole game, does anyone know of a single site where you can find out about crossfire? you google it and you get some video game come up.

[@louisjaque5049]

where have you gotten the stuff on the table?

[@Flight_of_Icarus]

Looks interesting! So it's turnless? How does that work? I imagine that a physical board game like this without turns can turn violent quickly.

[@VelmiVelkiZrut]

As I understand it, there are no "turns" but rather "initiative," so you keep doing whatever you like until the enemy forcibly stops one of your movements (you get pinned, come under fire, expose yourself to enemy view etc.).

[@oddf3ll0w]

So how do you do an offensive if everytime you get in line of sight of the enemy they can decide to fire and you lose your turn?

[@platypus01au]

You suppress them first, then overrun them with assault. That is what you have to do in real life unless you want to re-create the first day of the Somme.

[@hansgregersen3459]

good vid

[@Theicemonkeyjr]

Show us some games! Awesome video, very interesting.

[@WillUTeachMe]

looks fun. can I buy a table that comes with all the pieces? Never played but looks really interesting.

[@commissarluke2898]

I don't think you can anymore but myself i play it on tabletop simulator and are right now about to launch an operation similar to the one he made videos about. Also humble bundle got the game 50% for this week.

[@wyattw9727]

You see, this is really the type of gameplay Games Workshop should move Fantasy and 40k over. It gives a lot more options too for the sci fi and fantasy elements to come to light in the game, instead of the state they're currently in, with one or two horribly broken armies and the game focusing entire on buying more powerful units. Sure you can build armies true to the fluff, but yeah, don't expect to win. Any way to convert this type of game to 40k? Hell this type of free flowing gameplay would fit perfectly with a true-to-the-fluff 40k game, considering most armies in 40k SHOULD be highly mobile. (Orbital deployment via drop pods, valkyrie gunships, thunderhawks, teleportation, etc.)

[@2aldredz788]

Wyatt Wilmot age of sigmar :)

[@mrward6510]

We are plucky indeed 💂

[@stephencrompton4352]

💂💂💂💂💂💂💂💂💂💂💂💂💂💂💂💂💂💂💂💂💂💂💂💂💂💂💂💂💂💂💂💂💂💂💂💂

[@mrward6510]

Steve Spencer Fine ranks of Guardsmen 💂

[@stephencrompton4352]

Mr ward Indeed💂

[@michaelsaumure7697]

Always wanted a full army of Praetorians in WH40K. Bit difficult to get together these days

[@topshaggeralfieg9130]

Indeed fam 💂🏻

[@nedman211]

Have you ever tried playing company of heroes lindybiege?

[@Hevyupgrade]

Since everyone else is saying what this reminds them of, personally I immediately thought of XCOM (Which I hold would also make a very good table top game).

[@oildrum101]

i just found this channel and its the shit i need to war game with you dude

[@TeddiGramz1001]

This looks really fun. How much did that whole setup cost?

[@Noinoi_]

Probably somewhere between 100 and 200 $.

[@lindybeige]

No idea. It was built over many years, but very little. Most of the soldiers are boxes of plastic, and the terrain is scratch built out of cloth offcuts and the like.

[@texaspunisher8594]

What scale are your figures lindy

[@mark0nius]

How does it compare to SLI?

[@robertalvis625]

Could you play crossfire and use its rules but with like 1:35 scale models instead of the much smaller models I'm guessing they provide because i have a large wooden board i am not using and I'm building a lot of 1:35 scale ww2 vehicle's and soldiers

[@TeeborGames]

Munchkin! Its been a while since Iplayed that, Found my box of that not so long ago. But nobody really to play it with any more