Introducing Smartsuit Pro II: New Features Walkthrough

[@CinematicCaptures]

Oh man, this looks incredible! That improved tracking looks fantastic!

[@JonkariP]

One day I'll have it!

[@monstermash1571]

Dude, you're a legend! We'll watch your career with great interest!

[@_arthurking]

absolutely 💯

[@piotrekt186]

Rokoko is wasting your time and money

[@israeltheteenager]

It’s been 7mo! Have you got it yet??

[@JonkariP]

@@israeltheteenager Actually yes!

[@McRibs]

Super stoked they are sending out upgraded suits to those who have been waiting on suits for months. Makes the wait way more bearable.

[@Zs00zsa]

I came here to write this. Now the wait is gonna be even more worth it.

[@asthettic]

@@Zs00zsa omg are they doing that??? I waited for years & am now getting adds for the new one. Happy for you, but kinda disappointed for my connected company that just bought 'the old one' only weeks ago....

[@tinrats]

Same, the only thing I'm wondering is whether the new suit can connect to the old gloves or whether they will have to be separate entity?

[@McRibs]

@@tinrats the gloves have not been updated. The new connection is that the suite now has wires that will run to the gloves and can. Is all be powered by one battery unit.

[@tinrats]

@@McRibs Ohhhh! Thanks for the heads up, that's great news :)

[@loacherfilms]

Now this is podracing! 🔥

[@BrianKouhi]

Huge news guys!! this looks fantastic!

[@pequenog2323]

Hi Rokoko!! I have a doubt I have seen on your website that the software license with "Smartsuit pro I"I is included for the first year. Does that mean it is no longer a lifetime software license like the old "smartsuit pro"? If so, what is the price of the software license annually? Greetings

[@WoofWoofWolffe]

Super exciting! A new suit!

[@VRDivision]

amazing work guys!

[@ThrillDaWill]

So excited to get my hands on this!

[@tigerhix]

I am very happy to see Rokoko is reducing the overtime inertial drift and the fact you mentioned VTubing/livestreaming performances. I would love to know if you guys can benchmark Smartsuit Pro II for a typical livestreaming scenario and measure how frequent the streamer needs to recalibrate the suit. It would be nice to add more calibration poses as well, like when sitting (it would be weird for a Let's Play streamer to stand up once in a while to calibrate).

[@Kana_Fuyuko]

You guys just made my jaw dropped. I am so excited to get my mocap suit in Janurary and do so many experiments with it!!!! Looking forward to making that Vtuber+Rokoko stream review so I can share your product's name!!!

[@tefflon06]

Every time I buy something, a new version comes out shortly after 😢 bittersweet

[@kyanhudson6831]

how long ago did you buy it? is it still in shipping?

[@g3nius]

Thats pretty interessting, especially the integration of the gloves, which is so important for authentic animation.

[@donhoolieo4896]

Nice! Still saving… Can’t wait to have one for my animation work flow. I key frame everything manually with reference video. This would be so amazing to have!

[@kyanhudson6831]

just checked my emails, thanks for the upgrade rokoko! looks like this is what the delay on my order was all about.

[@TravisDavids]

Absolutely amazing! I want one of these!

[@ShowHall]

This looks awesome super

[@virtualfilmer]

This looks like a good overall improvement, Sam! Great video! :) I’m really hoping for some sort of support for a 3d tracking solution for the gloves, though. That would really change things. Without being able to clap, pick things up, or accurately interact with things, the glove recordings take a long time to clean up and end up basically being keyframe animated. 🤷‍♂️

[@rupaindo]

now this should be highlighted before getting our hands to this suit

[@BumblesAnimation]

Ordered! Can't wait for mine to get here!

[@RokokoMotion]

Welcome to the community!😉

[@アトリエチンジャオロース-r4t]

Is the magnetic field tolerance improved? Also, is it compatible with the old Smartgloves?

[@TheLovermind]

this is probably the only improvement that we expect from the smartsuit today ... with the current model, even under optimal magnetic field conditions, we still encounter the same problems ... But hey, for the moment , I think it is the best value for money.

[@MrPelastus]

Excellent! Will definitely put this in my 2022 list of production tools.

[@blackman96ify]

Same

[@NelsonLim]

Sounds like pretty exciting features! I love how you all are making mocap more accessible.

[@FPChris]

Oh like them wanting you to pay for a plan just to be able to change the FBX output options?

[@deleondln7]

Just ordered one! Can’t wait 😄

[@GibbsonTV]

I had a feeling something was coming, glad I waited to save my money! :)

[@ozarcgaming]

Amazing. You guys are killing it

[@StudioTatsu]

I wasn't interested at first, but after this video, I'm going to preorder. I'm impressed. I definitely can use this with my upcoming indie games. :)

[@soundcoaster3280]

it looks incredibly good! I just bought perception neuron studio and i think if u would reveal it earlier i would bought urs 2 suit for this price...

[@Aero3D]

I was just gonna buy one this week, so happy a second one just came out wow

[@dvdza]

it looks amazing! how about the magnetic issues tho?

[@NRubric]

That's what I was looking for in the Smartsuit!

[@cintron3d]

How have I not heard of this before, this looks amazing!

[@cryperi6918]

I don't mean to criticize but I worked a lot with their old suit and have to give an honest accounting since this video mentioned only one fix to many outstanding issues with Smartsuit version one. The suit can get interference from concrete floors under mats or metal piping in walls. We had to go record our sessions in public parks to get better accuracy. They also don't mention if they fixed the amount of times calibration forces you to remove the suit entirely to recalibrate it at random or all the firmware update bug requests that happen. The last suit was only compatible with lower USB port versions. Not worth the headache if they didn't fix anything of the major problems it had. Even the naming conventions generated by the studio software doesn't align to programs like motion builder (why name it "right shin" when all these programs list it as "right leg" for mapping?). The company could probably benefit from reading forum feedback on issues that are preexisting from the old build. We literally are looking for a better replacement at our college, please let us know of any suggestions.

[@Pneumanon]

Thanks for commenting- good to know some of the cons with this tech.

[@toluar76]

Highly recommend getting VR and trackers, Ive had the rokoko suit for about a year now and recently switched to that. Massive upgrade in every area. Aside from the personal issues that I had (my suits legs just didnt work half the time) -You dont have to stand. Rokoko simply doesnt work when your feet arent on the ground. With trackers you can lie down, spin around on your head, whatever. as long as the trackers are visible for the base station youre golden. -the tracker based capture is INCREDIBLY more consistent compared to rokoko where your limbs or the entire character start slowly drifting away after like 30 seconds of capture. -The suit is not comfortable and not at all convenient. Rokoko likes saying it is, but its a fullbody skintight suit. You will not want to put it on because its a hassle, and in summer it will fry you alive. -rokokos app is barebones and you will have to pay 20 A MONTH for basic features. This is using mocap fusion VR (do a little digging because its hard to find but worth it.) Things that I didnt realize I needed until I got them: being able to play back previously recorded mocap while recording new mocap. With VR you can literally see the character(s) youre supposed to reacting to, and it makes acting so much easier. More on this point: you can customize characters location, scale and avatar. If youre doing something like an orc interacting with a human you can record yourself as an orc, make your human avatar small and you will be extremely immersed while recording. You can add reference that plays when you press record which is extremely helpful when youre recording alone. Also, it will record your mic and handles it all in a convenient way without being a buggy mess (rokokos reference system is that 100%) I could write probably another 2 pages of minor issues that I ran into, but these are the ones that I can think of right now. After a year of use, I would give rokoko a 2 out of 10.

[@maif3ng]

Those are most of my reasons why I asked for a full refund after returning a bundle.

[@Pneumanon]

@@toluar76 Very interesting- what about finger tracking & facial capture using the VR/Trackers method?

[@toluar76]

@@Pneumanon I cant vouch for the quality of these features as I never used them, but there is facial capture using an Iphone and tracking with the programs creators DIY gloves which you can make for 150 bucks apparently. Actually I was thinking that I would ask/pay the creator of the program to add smartgloves support so that *might* be added

[@Oahspe]

Awww maannn.... I got my Smartsuit Pro 1 and gloves a year ago and love them.. but now I really wish I had 3 grand for the Smartsuit 2, lol... These improvements are considerable.. Welp, gotta start hustling to scrape up that kind of loot now. Me want.

[@KRGraphicsCG]

Yes!!!! And I'm glad I waited for this, especially for more durability, and higher frame rate capture. The ONLY thing I ask is the ability to export my data in different framerates out of the gate... Having to pay for that feature hasn't sat well with me Also I hope we'll be able to sit on the floor without our Avatar falling into a virtual abyss

[@Max-mn1yx]

hard agree on the FPS paywall

[@KRGraphicsCG]

@@Max-mn1yx most 3d apps can export at an arbitrary framerate out the gate

[@specsarena1124]

This is so awesome, I hope you guys expand into South Africa!

[@Niknokinater]

Love to see it !

[@chrisduwe]

I am glad about your improvements.. and sad I have the old suit! Can I update it?

[@Bagira33]

Can we get a test stream in the near future. I would love to see the suit live in action

[@RokokoMotion]

Stay tuned :) Or join our newsletter to be first in line for future community event - just scroll to the bottom of www.rokoko.com to sign up.

[@stedocli6387]

Awesome what you guys are doing. Keep up the good work!

[@ColeWithAGoal]

Wow, that's a pretty great price point too! Great work :)

[@wholeness]

A moment of silence for those who purchased the old suit recently. 😂

[@RokokoMotion]

Don't worry! If you bought the old suit recently we'll also be pushing firmware updates to improve the performance of your suit too!

[@swinny_]

@@RokokoMotion Excellent news

[@4KLIVE3DVR360]

me too

[@4KLIVE3DVR360]

how can I update the firmware?

[@alexsuttie16]

@@RokokoMotion Will we owners of the old suit ever be able to have vertical movement? Or is that not going to be possible?

[@crow-nut3174]

thats it i'm saving up i need this in my workflow so badly

[@andregama8068]

A few months ago I got mine. It took a long time to deliver, I still haven't had enough time to fit it into my pipeline and a new one is coming out. Will it be possible to upgrade in any way that does not have version One?

[@jamesalfaro6457]

same here

[@scorpneo9433]

same here, i got mine after 3 months of waiting would be great If i can upgrade, that would be amazing

[@rzarekt]

same here, only arrived recently after months

[@MyTypoLife]

I cant wait to test this out

[@3dmonkeybizz]

This is just so damn cool! Well done on this new version!

[@vaskerstudio9429]

Went to the site expecting this to be crazy expensive, this is reasonable . preordering today

[@TheEtbetween]

The biggest problem I see with some of the reviewers! Is lack of understanding of MoCap Suits! Unfortunately most people don’t understand how a MoCap work and what are the expectations of it! Think of it this way, imagine you took a saw to cut a piece of pipe. After cutting that pipe there are sharp edges, so you need to file it down to smooth it out! The difference between theses suits is that some suits need more filing than others! Also keep in mind that experience and understanding the suit is extremely important!

[@askNK]

Time to get this new one!

[@marshal487]

Cool , i hope when you make version 3 suit i will have money to buy it 😄

[@jacquesbroquard]

That is super cool. You could basically film a fan flick for Dune with just these badass suits! (forget the mocap capabilities!) Hah!

[@wholeness]

Metaverse talk

[@lubruz7164]

One of my dream is getting this for my productions pipeline.

[@noiseworks]

has there been improvement on magnetic inteference?

[@KenedyTorcatt]

Sadly nope

[@KenedyTorcatt]

Does this have magnetic 🧲 interference or not now?

[@WoodyDevs]

Sam, those shoes makes me wonder if I should be buying textiles or just regular footwear. Bro.

[@АндрейПодоплелов-з3ж]

Hello guys, tell me who has already ordered the 2nd version of the suit. How many days did the parcel go to you? (and what country/city are you in) Thank you)

[@DisAbel]

Someday I'll have enough money for one of these things. It's gonna so much eaiser to animated with these than by hand

[@cardermedia]

Please make a Rokoko headrig to complete the set! Looks great.

[@metulski1234]

I have just read the mail that, as a buyer of the first generation, I will automatically receive the second. I'm very happy about that and make up for the long wait.

[@fivesprite3151]

Is this true? So if we have the first gen we get a second one for free?!! Omg!

[@Xationch]

I did not get this email

[@blubberdablubb]

Can anyone confirm? I don't have any mail

[@octaviosilva5808]

A good product gets better

[@Cine_Coverop]

Glad I'll receive an upgrade for free (ordered months ago)

[@PixelFire]

This looks awesome! Would love to upgrade for better VTubing.

[@Vesohag]

Dayum!! :0

[@terrillcrookshank4363]

Hitting a punching bag! 🐻 🐻 🐻

[@leejungsuk7411]

Do you have upgrade kit sales or trade-in plans for Introducing Smartsuit Pro 1?

[@ukmonk]

Pre-ordered 👍👍👍

[@TGSuineg]

Would love to see a comparison between the old and new suits.

[@binaryspiders]

Love the new changes! We're super excited to get our hands on it. With regards to the gloves shipped with delayed orders, will these work with the single stream + power source approach? Or is this only for future bundles?

[@friedpicklezzz]

do the gloves support spreading fingers outward? what are the actual capabilities?

[@刘鸿翔-b2m]

Hello, I ordered the first generation ROKOKO and I am going to buy ROKOKO2. Can the first generation gloves be connected to the second generation clothing to realize the integration of charging?

[@AbrahamMast]

This is exciting!

[@Sepfy]

Hey Sam, this is great! For those of us that still haven't received their First-gen SmartSuit + SmartGloves, will we be able to transfer over to a preorder of the Gen 2?

[@RokokoMotion]

Check your email ;)

[@Sepfy]

Oh nevermind, I see I got an email updating that I'll be automatically upgraded to the II, that's awesome! Great job guys, excellent customer service

[@yuchuanwang9362]

Hello sam, I wonder if its output frame rate will be limited to 100fps when used with gloves?

[@GiPa98]

exciting!

[@RuniDjurhuus]

Nice ☺️ Daz 3D compatible?

[@liliput9994]

Thanks for the great video. But I still have some confusion such as ROKOKO SMART SUIT PRO II does it comes with the SMART GLOVES together with the suit? And package price is $2745? Or do I have to pay for the GLOVES separately? One major question is what is the shipment cost to Bangladesh.

[@wackcrewpeeps]

Will the new smart suit integration work with my current smart gloves or would I need to order the new smart gloves as well?

[@Nurolight]

Will any of these advancements come to the V1 via Studio updates?

[@DonAllenIII]

Looks amazing!

[@actionanimations4879]

Is it possible to create the same type of sensors that you have for the hands also be applied to the toes. This way you can bend and wiggle toes or arch a foot. Instead of feet having a stiff movement?

[@kirakhemia1678]

Such a game changer

[@stuckon3d]

when are these new features going to be active on the suit, when will the firmware be available for download? cheers

[@prankfever8877]

hallo i have a question , is it possible to use a motion capture suite outside and interact with peoples ? like for example i would like to give the motion capture suite to a basketball player during a game and replace that player with a 3d avatar is this possible ?

[@RokokoMotion]

Heyo! Yes, if you have a good compositing workflow for overlaying your character afterwards, then you can do this! It takes some knowledge of this field though, but there's a lot of great resources on youtube, like Pwnisher's tutorial here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fmmtdWuOftOWnKM&ab_channel=pwnisher

[@muratozdemir1812]

I wonder which startup/company will be doing the first fully-compatible haptic suit for VR that will really make us feel as if we were living in that metaverse.

[@AleRender]

Es hermoso !!! Ojalá algún día pueda ser mío.....

[@ianmagalhaes8574]

That can be used for vr?

[@AngryApple]

What I want to know if this can be used in RealTime inside VR, that would be amazing

[@fivesprite3151]

If we just bought the first gen and just got it would we be be able to mail it back and get a smartsuit 2?

[@baitposter]

Does the Smartsuit II work with VRchat for full-body tracking?

[@RokokoMotion]

No, VRChat uses the SteamVR API to approximate full-body tracking, relying on the Vive trackers to behave as IK (Inverse Kinematic) targets to drive the motion of the limbs. The data from Studio is in FK (Forward Kinematic), which applies rotations to the bones to mimic the motions of the actor, instead of attempting to match a single target per limb as IK does.

[@baitposter]

@@RokokoMotion Excellent in-depth answer, that'll probably go some way to answering others' questions about how the suit works, too. If you ever release a suit for casual/consumer VR tracking needs, even if it needs to be similarly priced, I'll definitely be in the market for it, especially as things move towards 8-point and 10-point tracking

[@AtamiMarinStudio]

Great News!

[@redsquire]

I got a question, can I use this for mocap in source filmmaker?

[@nicksushkevich]

Will there be a discount for first smarsuit/smartgloves owners?

[@kvickart]

I got an email that gives me a discount of 15% if I buy it.... before November so in like 4 days. I'm glad people are excited the product is getting an upgrade but I just got this thing a few months back and I would have just waited had I known this was coming, it's pretty frustrating for something so expensive

[@kyanhudson6831]

@@kvickart i guess that kinda happens sadly. i mean theres not much they can do. they cant really stop sales for a few months. to be generous they even delayed everyones current orders until they could announce the smart suit 2 and that theyll upgrade everyone who's suits are still in shipping.

[@kvickart]

@@kyanhudson6831 Yeah I understand that they need to clear out their old inventory and keep the business running. But I don't consider this some toy product, it's a long term investment on my end to build my own products, if I could afford to just pay animators I would do that, but I do this to make myself more productive. This is the second time I've felt frustrated with Rokoko's sales strategies. I got sent a coupon for a discount on the gloves after I had already ordered it 2 months beforehand. I asked if I could apply the discount for my order(which ended up taking about 5 months to arrive), and they denied the request which is fine whatever. To Rokoko, just don't send me the sales email in the first place, all you're doing is frustrating me. Keep sending me emails saying that I'm a 'valued customer'. $3500 dollars later, great I can make some impulse purchase to spend another $2200 and have 1 less effective suit that collects dust. I'm not here to troll Rokoko, just to inform anyone who's going to drop a wad on cash on these products that with this company probably just wait until they send you sales emails before ever buying anything because you'll be waiting months for your shipment to arrive anyways.

[@Dzarafata]

@@kyanhudson6831 I got mine last thursday so I'm still in 30 days period. Definetly going to replace it with the new one

[@CarloMercadoJudgementProject]

hello have a question, this new verson has static resistance or still have a problem if we reacord inside a studio with eletronics arround?

[@marcus_ohreallyus]

How snug should the fit be? I have wide shoulders and had a really tough time getting out of the suit. Haha almost pulled a muscle trying to wiggle it over my shoulders without tearing any material. It does feel well constructed but I'm wondering if repeated stress of putting on/removing will take its toll over time. I'm 5'10 180 pounds and I got the medium size. Maybe I needed a large???

[@RokokoMotion]

Hi Mike! If it's that tight and you are bordering between the sizes, I think you should go up one size. If you are still within the 30 days of receiving the suit, you can get the textile swapped for a larger size if you write to [e-mail]. We'll handle all of the shipping and logistics - and it's a fairly quick process!

[@Onlygoodsir]

I would love one :D one day

[@lordphantomblast453]

Question Can you use the smartsuit pro 2 for vrchat? Just curious.

[@landonthorton9636]

I received my smart suit and gloves in August, haven’t even had a chance to take it out of the Box and I see this. Too bad there’s no way to trade up and I’ve just recently passed the 30 day period. Very unfortunate.

[@Max-bi9nf]

If you’re pre ordering, how do you make sure you get the one with the gloves integrated? Or do you still have to order the gloves separately?

[@RokokoMotion]

You can choose between pre-ordering the FPC Bundle including Smartgloves or the Smartsuit Pro II only at bit.ly/3bciTe6

[@dilstories]

I should have waited a few months! Bought the old suit 2500 + the gloves 1000 and yet this one with a glove is 2700? 😢

[@RokokoMotion]

Hi dilstories! The new suit alone is $2700, the suit and glove combo are $3500 :) Also, we will be pushing firmware updates that should improve the performance of everyone who has a SSP 1 :)

[@Solovision2024]

Do you have an example of a person using a motion capture suit with a green screen suit over it so the actor can interact with the real environment then replace green screen actor with animated character.

[@RokokoMotion]

While we do not have a hands-on example of this, it should be totally doable as you just have to remain connected to the WiFi to transmit the data. Interesting idea!

[@sircruxstudios]

Is rokoko studio going to be updated?