i have a question that have been around my head for a long time why do we use V tails instead of normal tail
@whatsthematter876710 ай бұрын
@@taham6757 V-Tails use less material and therefore can be made lighter than conventional tails, they also generally have a lower frontal surface area and create less drag. They also can get the control surfaces out of turbulent engine thrust, just look at the cirrus vision jet! It uses a V-Tail so that the turbulence from the thrust of the engine which is mounted right in front of the tail and on top of the plane doesn't mess up the control surfaces.
@taham675710 ай бұрын
tyy ,i have another question😅 is it really true flying wings are more less stable than normal airplanes @@whatsthematter8767
@PS121210 ай бұрын
Couldnt u just make it better?
@NicholasRehm10 ай бұрын
Congrats on the amazingly successful launch guys! You know who to call if you need more crash testing ;)
@bimmers50e3010 ай бұрын
How do you get in this Kickstarter? I'll pay extra to have your flight controller.
@glenmiller143710 ай бұрын
Contrats on the project. Info requests for the kickstarter project... Can you further spec out the wing? Motor size (recommended, or what's in the kit), servos, FS, battery, prop, etc. Also airspeed, flight duration, range etc. Interior layout of plane, CG, weight table, etc. Surely you are working on finalizing this, but you've flown it, so you must have a pretty good idea what these are now. The kickstarter feels under-spec'ed, but also thank you for not having it scroll on forever with stock photo nonsense. Good luck!
@jimmy84458 ай бұрын
Money making scheme. He's selling a bit of epp and some bulk standard minimim parts at a price lol. Going to be lots of disappointed people thinking they are about to receive a mini parrot disco and get that 😂 he knew exactly what he was doing and could have shared a simple parts list any time and simply sold his own personalised wing shaping but no... youtuber need more money probz
@glenmiller14378 ай бұрын
@@jimmy8445 I'm not that cynical. I've watched both of these guys for years, and they seem to be straight shooters. I highly doubt it's a money grab. I do think there is excessive enthusiasm in the comments here, considering the lack of product information. TF and RCTF need to step up with more specs. ( That's assuming they have not already. I'm not checking up on the kickstarter.) Working out the details, getting it right, and mass producing takes a lot of effort, and money. If they deliver a good product, they'll deserve whatever they make.
@jimmy84458 ай бұрын
@@glenmiller1437 nope I've also watched them both for years. The maker/rc community has always been open source. I watched countless people endlessly ask for a simple parts list and they knew exactly what they were doing and refused to provide. These are the very people that made their channels and supported them. I would have respected him of he wanted to sell his wing/foam design and just shared his low weight parts list but lost all respect after seeing this kick-starter campaign
@glenmiller14378 ай бұрын
@@jimmy8445 Hey Jimmy. I guess that's your prerogative. If they hit their schedule and deliver a good design, I have no issues. I mainly think the lack of a hardware list and specs (even a preliminary ones) when they have a working beta design is very odd. That's a bit too "kickstarter" for my liking. They far surpassed their kickstarter goal, so I think we're in the minority with our concerns, lol. Well, we'll see what happens.
@aqua_sakura50218 ай бұрын
@@jimmy8445let my man do what he wants
@Technicallyaddicted9 ай бұрын
The first ever kickstarter I’m going to support. $55 for the bare airframe is a steal.
@bobwilkinson400110 ай бұрын
This is awesome, you and Daniel are making some of the best rc/maker content on KZbin, can't think of anyone I'd rather back. Hopefully when it gets closer to delivery you can give us some recommendations on electronics. I'm especially interested in getting something working with full Ardupilot and telemetry, my last attempt ended up too heavy and never flew well. Especially after it crashed and broke in half :D
@techstuff682910 ай бұрын
Matek F405-WMN is a solid contender. The ATOMRC F405 NAVI MINI looks interesting but I haven't used it. Happymodel EP1 dual receiver. (ELRS)
@UnexpectedInquisition10 ай бұрын
I would buy a more expensive idiotproof "no assembly required" option that came with a camera and controlls and everything else needed to start, out of the box. Even if it cost $$$
@nicocesar10 ай бұрын
Has to be exciting to see the numbers go up with this kickstarter!! Got myself 2..!
@whidzee10 ай бұрын
How does the flight experience of this compare to the Strix Nano Goblin that you also designed?
@evanbarnes998410 ай бұрын
This is my first time backing a Kickstarter! Fortunately I know that RCTestflight has already done a successful injection molding Kickstarter with the snowcat, so I'm not worried about you being able to pull this off. Do you think this wing can slope soar? I'd love to take it out to my local ocean cliffs to FPV slope soar on days when the wind is too strong for paragliding.
@nehok10 ай бұрын
You can slope pretty much anything, it’s just a question of enough wind / lift.
@evanbarnes998410 ай бұрын
@@nehokhaha that's true. Years ago I made some seriously bad foam planks for slope soaring that worked just fine in high winds. There's definitely a lot to be said for an efficient design that can really utilize the lift, though. Either way, I love EPP foam wings, so this thing will be super fun!
@AerialWaviator10 ай бұрын
It will be light weight (under 250g), so should soar well in light breezes. Ballast likely will be required up front, as was designed to cary FPV equipment. Being light and made of EPP, it should also stand u to some light combat soaring. I'd expect would be a blast to fly, particularly if had a friend or two all soaring at the same time.
@1986Patric10 ай бұрын
Missing the tier 4 with autopilot for plug and play? I had to choose tier 3 :( Congrats on the success so far, thanks to both channels for all you do.
@VinceSamios10 ай бұрын
Stroke of brilliance, such a good way to monetise the channel. I only wish there was a package including all electronics for those starting with nothing.
@davidsteinhour556210 ай бұрын
I bought a Nano Goblin and LOVED it. A tiny O3 Air Unit plane is my dream!
@gator1984atcomcast10 ай бұрын
My ZOHD with FPV and FC, GPS is kinda like this. It may be the last plane I need. At Edwards’s AFB in the 60’s I visited NASAs X21 laminar flow test plane. The “Holly Grail” of flight can be achieved several ways. I’d like to see you and Daniel do this with a model wing.
@middleagedbaldguy67749 ай бұрын
Looking forward to seeing them in May. Glad to see the funding went so well!!
@eduardmonstrey711310 ай бұрын
i would love to back this project :D only one question, are you planning to ship to EU countries? (belgium)
@horsship10 ай бұрын
How long can it fly for?
@WindCatcherRC10 ай бұрын
That is a sweet looking little and very capable plane. NICE!!!
@sherwoac10 ай бұрын
why not have an FPV ready pledge level? all the kit in one package
@jerem09110 ай бұрын
Will it includes a tutorial for autopilot or FPV hardware ?
@glr10 ай бұрын
What about stereoscopic video? Will there be a way to do that?
@dronefootage277810 ай бұрын
@@glr what are you talking about, will there be a way to install 2 cameras?
@glr10 ай бұрын
@@dronefootage2778Not only that, but the tutorial for that: i.e., exact camera(s) to use, how to install, app or program to receive video from camera(s) with stereo headset.
@taterbits10 ай бұрын
So cool! Can't wait to see more videos when it ships!
@vidmasze10 ай бұрын
cool stuff! a few ideas on aerodynamics: - option to smooth out the winglets corners with foam, maybe could be glued next to carbon (i like carbon as strong) - it's hard to see from the video/pics, though, I heard that if placed at certain angles winglets can still produce some thrust (converting vortices into thrust) - did you do CFD or real life L/D (lift/drag) measurements? most foamies just stink because they don't provide any info about efficiency (L/D graphs, wh/km @ weight, etc), which became a very nice norm in 3d print market (titan dynamics, eclipson), just no option from molded foamy there! That would be really cool so people which know exactly what to expect from the wing performance wise. this in real life can be measured by measuring glide ratio (i guess you knew). - interestingly depending if you want to optimize wing efficiency for minimum wing span vs minimum weight, the NASA Prantdl and BSLD concept might be very relevant: * if wingspan is most important (and not weight) is important you probably stick with old-style Elliptic which is optimum for fixed wingspan * however if you consider optimizing for structural weight and to also minimise the induced drag at 250g limit - thus wing could be a bit smaller at same lift (this is very interesting because say in ZOHD Dart I couldn't fit normal 18650 batteries with proper electronics within 250g, not to even dream about 21700), NASA Prantdl and Bell Shaped Lift Distribution (BSLD) in general, like birds, cuts induced drag by converting part vortices into thrust, in addition to other cool things like PROVERSE yaw! And unlike Eliptic, Prantdl/BSLD gives optimum solution given a fixed wing structural weight! see ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20160003578/downloads/20160003578.pdf and ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20210014683/downloads/H3284FINAL.pdf I would certainly buy one if you'd have a foamy with BSLD / Prandtl! For small plane, this one might be quite good starting point (instead of original opensource Nasa Prantdl's models which have larger aspect ratio) and flies amazingly stable even in manual (I got 3d printed version of it): www.angelwingdesigns.co.uk/products/fvt3-pre-order the developers of this wing are very cool guys and maybe they might cooperate on injection mold?
@ZZ430T5610 ай бұрын
Looks like it glides like the space shuttle. I don't think anything you are asking is applicable.
@vidmasze10 ай бұрын
@@ZZ430T56 :D be sure, space shuttle glides worse... it had one of the worst aerodynamics ever as a glider ;) if it glides badly as you say (not so sure, looked kinda ok to me in the video for the dimensions), that's just another reason why some of the above might make sense (e.g. BLSD/Prandtl allows reducing induced drag by up to 11+% at same lift, not sure about winglets performance, but I'm sure there were reports square winglets on real airplanes was eating like maybe ~5% more fuel) - if these worked out, each of them would improve the gliding!
@vidmasze10 ай бұрын
another dumb idea to check, are the wing airfoils specifically selected as relatively low-Reynolds-number ones, right (I'd guess they are, but this wasn't explicitly mentioned)? @Think Flight
@chman210 ай бұрын
This happened at the perfect time. I was wanting something like this and now I can offord it too.
@Finnphix10 ай бұрын
Half funded in under an hour. DAMN!! Also. I'm going to be getting ATLEAST one if not more for friends
@KF9910 ай бұрын
Wow, I have a similar sub 250g project now, it has 2 times greater wingspan, but it can be disassembled to fit inside a small hand luggage bag.
@herwigg332710 ай бұрын
it looks like 100% funding within 24 hours - congratulations!
@dronefootage277810 ай бұрын
more like 3 hours, but go ahead and insult the man
@herwigg332710 ай бұрын
@@dronefootage2778 insult?
@dronefootage277810 ай бұрын
@@herwigg3327 well, if you accomplished something in 3 hours and then someone said it took you 24 hours, not sure how you would feel about it
@whatsthematter876710 ай бұрын
I'm speechless, all I can say is: I'm in!
@matthiaskuhn67049 ай бұрын
Amazing…is it possible to buy CAD files for 3 d printing?
@matteoperroni379710 ай бұрын
No kit with flight controller included it seems?
@SolidBlueBlocks10 ай бұрын
90$ for a unit with electronics is a really fair price!
@busterhyman10310 ай бұрын
ADS 𝐔𝐍𝐒𝐔𝐁𝐒𝐂𝐑𝐈𝐁𝐄
@R.B_B10 ай бұрын
If they delivery. I had enough of Kickstart scams.
@mikebergman181710 ай бұрын
@@R.B_B If anyone is going to make up a kickstarter to scam their hard earned subscribers out of a cool $15k, Kavin and Daniel are definitely those guys😆
@dronefootage277810 ай бұрын
@@mikebergman1817 exactly. Daniel is well known for his scams. one time he pretended to make a snowcat but it was all cgi and then he created fake personalities with more cgi of people pretending to build said snowcat.
@waaggzz287110 ай бұрын
congrats guys this looks amazing.. kick starter prices are cheap in my opinion! looks like the kids and the big kid might have a new toy coming...
@finn_mcmissile8 ай бұрын
how much does it weigh empty?
@ltsky3117 ай бұрын
it looks like an Ebee. or the short version of the Skywalker x8.
@literally_not_kevin10 ай бұрын
For those interested in the Kickstarter, it unfortunately won't ship until ~May 2024 😢. Still glad to back it tho!
@rust_embedded10 ай бұрын
Backed! Can't wait, this is gonna be my first RC plane ever 🤓
@JensSi10 ай бұрын
what's the expected flighttime and range? inkl. FPV and insta360Go?
@lucidjimiking4610 ай бұрын
This would be awesome!!
@MatterMage10 ай бұрын
Nice. I'm in.
@SaschaGrant10 ай бұрын
Backed!! Very cool :)
@geoffreyjames31077 ай бұрын
Contact attempt Why don’t TOGA equiped aircraft have STOP button to reject a take off? Geoff
@barrywood535710 ай бұрын
very nice and very smart crack on
@bender920510 ай бұрын
Finally!
@daviddavids288410 ай бұрын
Information 1:41 a pushrod Should be PERPENDICULAR to its associated hinge line.!
@techstuff682910 ай бұрын
Ideally yes, but in practice for a foamy this is fine.
@BabaYagaFPV10 ай бұрын
Hell yea
@Jwmbike1410 ай бұрын
I designed & sell a 490mm 3d printed FPV wing thst I regularly fly on 2s, 3s Li-ion with HD systems and full AP. One 2s it can weigh the legal 250g. Not nearly as durable as EPP/EPO, but cost ~$4 in material and prints in 4 hrs.
@debartellomartinez72148 ай бұрын
I don't know, a little to, "Chinese toy market" for me.
@jakeclauson986310 ай бұрын
What's the difference between this and something like the sonic model 680mm wing? Which is basically the same thing for the same price except available now. There a lot of wings on the market these days. Whats so special about this one?
@whatsthematter876710 ай бұрын
The main selling point of this airplane is that it is light and only measures 20 inches or about 50 centimetres, aswell as easily weighing in under 250 grams, making it safer than other alternatives and thus allowable for use practically anywhere.
@jakeclauson986310 ай бұрын
@whatsthematter8767 under 250g all up weight? The sonic model is barely bigger and the pnp variant is 400+ grams without a video system
@whatsthematter876710 ай бұрын
@@jakeclauson9863 Yikes. That's all I can say.
@whatsthematter876710 ай бұрын
@@jakeclauson9863 But yes, it is under 250 all up weight, he has another video where he made a prototype.
@Zagitta00110 ай бұрын
Rather unfortunate shipping outside US is so expensive at 25$ but otherwise very good pricing
@dronefootage277810 ай бұрын
lol if you can't pay 25 for shipping around the world then you honestly don't deserve this.
@bobwilkinson400110 ай бұрын
US shipping is $15, seems like you're getting a pretty good deal
@Zagitta00110 ай бұрын
@@dronefootage2778 who said I can't afford it? Just saying 25$ shipping on a 55$ part eg 45% is very significant
@Zagitta00110 ай бұрын
@@bobwilkinson4001 unfortunately by the time this arrives at the door of anyone in the EU the price has basically doubled because of shipping, VAT and import handling fee. I would love to get one myself but it's not as great of a deal as it seems at first glance.
@sarangthemalbert854710 ай бұрын
Do you have OCD cause your projects are too neat 😂
@dronefootage277810 ай бұрын
he does but it's the good kind of ocd :D
@RubyS.110 ай бұрын
Done. Looks like few other people backed it as I was checking out too.
@staydown.normal532310 ай бұрын
sonice modell 600 or 900 or 1000mm same thing
@derekvanderbyl410 ай бұрын
Take my money😀
@Ozbird-7210 ай бұрын
Super nice
@jonask.140910 ай бұрын
Nice👌
@jdbiphone6 ай бұрын
Welp. looks like i watched this video too late.
@TheNadOby10 ай бұрын
Daaaaamn
@toiletenraupe10 ай бұрын
Cool
@sydnerd10 ай бұрын
Still upset that you made really silly joke about vegans, truly hated that but just backed you anyway. :D DJI Camera, controller, goggles will be another 1k ahh :D
@dronefootage277810 ай бұрын
i got news for you, most people don't like vegans because most of the time they are difficult people overall and i missed that joke but if i heard it i would probably love it. your comment proves my point.
@ST1985910 ай бұрын
As the other guy said, I didnt hear it but I would have likely laughed as well. The majority of Vegans Ive met are smug pretentious idiots who have to constantly remind everyone about their lifestyle and are extremely judgmental if you dont agree with their beliefs.
@markobaran10 ай бұрын
... can it carry a grenade? Ukraine might be interested.
@azimyth154210 ай бұрын
First! I'm getting one
@Jason-ov2ez9 ай бұрын
I want one of these so badly...
@rklauco10 ай бұрын
Would you consider to do a version with all-in? E.g. with electronics, ardupilot, FPV system, etc? Or is it too much hassle?
@TheTetrapod10 ай бұрын
This is the only way I'd go for it. If I'm buying all the parts anyway, I might as well get a whole plane.
@primeum10 ай бұрын
Just flik would do
@googleyoutubechannel855410 ай бұрын
I mean, I fully support you and Daniels commercial efforts, and nobody would deserve RC commercial success (however much that is :)) more, but you can already buy this plane kit? It's a nano goblin?
@Hi-zf4bn10 ай бұрын
Ukraine moment.
@whatsthematter87677 ай бұрын
100K Kavin! Congrats! So hyped to finally get mine in!
@admacdo10 ай бұрын
Yep. Backed. No real consideration needed.
@VtuberLife10 ай бұрын
so does it comme assembled already ? or do i have tu put it together my self
@Xailow10 ай бұрын
Backed! Excited to add this little fella to my fleet
@FlyingBeeFPV6 ай бұрын
I will have to get one! At minimal to support both of your Channels , since i Do value the both of you very much. Stoked to see a version of the Nano Goblin from you both! I would love to see more collaborations from you! Maybe a Cinelifter Vtol with Gimbal control? Now that would be Sick
@RealRichRay5 күн бұрын
Can anyone shed any light on the flight time of this?
@ricknoah91849 ай бұрын
Quick question... what are the wing loading specs ?
@ovalwingnut7 ай бұрын
I see a new type of "neighborhood air mail" service...
@m14srvАй бұрын
Is there a way to order this with everything needed for fpv
@breckfreeride10 ай бұрын
250g faa registration limit?!
@derroadcyclist96646 ай бұрын
Is this the NANO GOBLIN 2.0? need it
@RCRitterFPV6 ай бұрын
ordered. sorry Karen.. its not a drone... its a wing...
@thinkflight6 ай бұрын
Exactly! Thank you for the support 🙏
@paulnguyen612010 ай бұрын
Easy pledge.
@gibsonf068 ай бұрын
Backed!
@licencetoswill10 ай бұрын
woohoo!!
@rohansully58410 ай бұрын
Yes sir!
@ronygarcia807910 ай бұрын
I need one ❤
@redjem1310 ай бұрын
First kickstarter I've ever supported! Good luck guys, looking forward to it.
@techstuff682910 ай бұрын
I'm curious why people should buy this instead of a Nano Goblin? The price difference is only about $25, which isn't much once you factor in the electronics.
@nathanz72059 ай бұрын
You say that but the Goblin doesn't come with any electronics for 85$ just hardware. And 20$ on top of that for shipping and i'd much rather pay 55 for a kickstarter and get it once it releases and not have to worry about shipping and all that. I can take the time to plan out and purchase electronics and hardware later as they work on the mould and manufacturing.
@Robot_Child_Productions10 ай бұрын
That’s incredible!! I so want one for Christmas 😂
@Rich-TeaFPV10 ай бұрын
Backed 😀👍👍gone for the frame kit, this will be a great for spring next year.
@AerialWaviator10 ай бұрын
Awesome! It's looking like this project is already air-born ... noticing already 2x of goal within 24 hours for releasing this video.
@bloodbound69610 ай бұрын
*The US Military Requests your location*
@dronefootage277810 ай бұрын
it's easy to find, i didn't know the us military was this bad.
@zestyorc650610 ай бұрын
Haha, watched this a few hours ago and less than 10 people were on the kickstarter. Now you have hit goal plus some. Looking forward to getting a pair friendly neighborhood drones.!
@kieren776310 ай бұрын
Honestly there's a certain amount of fun that comes with a small plane or drone that big heavy stressful planes just don't have i love bieng able to push a small craft and even crash it with almost no stress and if you can make something small and stable people will always buy it
@jiatan_fpv10 ай бұрын
How's that better than Baby AR Wing PRO? I'd like to see raw unstabilized DVR in windy conditions - GyroFlow can make any footage look good, but the problem with small planes is that it's not enjoyable to fly when it's windy - even if the final stabilized footage looks good, what you're seeing in the goggles can be very shaky.
@onjofilms10 ай бұрын
Wow, you blew it out of the park boys!
@mug680410 ай бұрын
Didn't even watch the video. I'm in! Been waiting for you to launch something for a while!
@hipser10 ай бұрын
i would buy this just to support you. Is it being sold with analog video options?
@alexejtolstoy7359 ай бұрын
Cool. What is the flight time?
@Very_Grumpy_Cat8 ай бұрын
Well it depends on what battery you use. larger batteries will give you longer flight time but is will weigh more.
@robe431410 ай бұрын
Since this is a little bigger, what will be the range on this?
@steinne10 ай бұрын
this is great! Looking forward to seeing it become a reality -
@peter360adventures910 ай бұрын
Awesome
@azertyQ10 ай бұрын
Wow, those flight controllers/telemetry transponders are EXPENSIVE (compared to the drone)
@alexanderfaucher161910 ай бұрын
Yah. I looked and ELRS has a dual link solution called air port that seems like it might work.
@rocketbunnyum85199 ай бұрын
@@alexanderfaucher1619 oh wow. missed that one. thank you!