Introducing the UJK Parf Repeat Stop

[@goatsears]

I have been using one of these repeat stops for a few months now, great bit of kit for maintaining accuracy on bigger projects.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

That is brilliant feedback - many thanks. Peter

[@MHMHM7654]

Is there any play when u push wood against it?

[@xylonguitars]

ordered!!! can't wait to use it. Thank you Peter, once again, for your wonderful ideas and thank you Axminster for realising them!

[@NewBritWorkshop]

You are very kind. Peter

[@himonides]

@@NewBritWorkshop just grateful!

[@nigelsansom2407]

I like this Peter, thanks. I haven't looked yet at the Axminster site for cost info, but these look to add some convenience and better reproducibility over what I have . been doing up to now with the Parf system: using Festool hold-down clamps to position a piece of scrap into a stop position.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Nigel, I used to do the same but it was a fiddle. The new kit is much easier to set up and brilliant if you need to make a minor adjustment. Cheers. Peter

[@danparish4490]

Dang I just ordered the parf MKII guide system, 2 super dogs and the 12mm guide Pups from Axminster yesterday. It was cheaper to order it and pay shipping to the US than to buy it here.

[@H2Dwoat]

Dan Parish: I have the same issue here in the UK, it is sometimes cheaper for me to order from the US. It is a delicate balance, having to take into account shipping and any import duties. Bloody governments and the tariffs the apply to imports 🤬.

[@danparish4490]

@@H2Dwoat the shipping to the US was cheaper than me ordering here. It was 10 us to ship it here

[@ben_r_]

Really? I'll have to check that out. TSO Products looks to be the only company selling the Mark II and they want about $22 to ship the kit to California.

[@jtlong8383]

I can also attest it was cheaper for me to buy the Parf Guide System and other accessories from Axminster in the UK than to purchase them here in the States. Shipping from East Midlands to Tennessee was only $13 US, and it arrived 3 days after placing the order!

[@HeARTwood-DIY]

Very useful tool. Thank You!

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Michael, Have you been to Festool HQ yet? Cheers Peter

[@HeARTwood-DIY]

​@@NewBritWorkshop Yes, i've been there and it was perfect! We've seen a lot of new tools which will release this autumn or next spring. I'll mount a video about this tools in nearest twoo weeks.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Michael, Many thanks - I am jealous of course ! Peter

[@johnbarlow6546]

Hi Peter - many thanks . I have decided you are bad for my bank balance!. I am going to Axminster Warrington on Saturday. No doubt will end up in my basket. Best wishes

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi John, I hope that they have it in stock at the store - you can check this on line. Cheers. Peter

[@johnbarlow6546]

Thanks for tip Peter. They are on back order but no problem as I was already planning to go for other bits and pieces. Regards

[@DavidLee-cw6ci]

Whenever I've done this with a scrap of wood the freshly cut piece binds and gets thrown forward off my bench. It's the same as running a piece on a table saw right against the fence.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi David, It does not happen with my setup. It could be that your saw blade needs sharpening or there is a bit of resin build up on the face of the blade. Peter

[@vileguile4]

Fair price!!! Fantastic! Great work Peter!!!

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Cheers. Peter

[@MrPatdeeee]

Absolutely Brilliant! "Cheerio" to our Mr Peter. None Finah!

[@SammyInnit]

Words I was thinking of exactly!

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Pat and Sam, Thank you both very much. Peter

[@redensantos7210]

Are the markings calibrated the same or identical for all the units? If I want to use two of these to do parallel cuts, supporting both near-end of the sheet, do I need to calibrate one of the stop for parallelism or I will just set the offset identical on both unit and trust them as parallel?

[@NewBritWorkshop]

I think that they should be the same but it is easy to check by using a piece of sheet material of a certain length and seeing if it is positioned relative to the saw kerf on both ends of the sheet. Peter

[@davidmatke248]

Once again, brilliant! I need this!

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi David, Many thanks. Peter

[@chriscianci317]

Hi I love your work and ideas, Can the repeat stop be placed under the guide rail for really narrow cuts ?

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Chris, Only if the wood being cut is thicker than the front face of the repeat stop is high AND only if the guide rail rubber anti slip is in contact with that wood. Peter

[@68HC060]

If the wood being cut is thinner than the front face of the repeat-stop, you can use a thin board to "extend" the repeat-stop. Remember that you can easily make this thin board perfectly square using the Parf Guide System. You can then also place a few slices of the same board under each end of the guide rail. -So you'd be able to use the repeat-stop even for very thin and narrow cuts.

[@amosluyk]

Great idea Peter :). Just bought the Parf Guide System from Axminster, and blown away by the time saving and usefulness of it. Exciting stuff for a relatively new woodworker! Sorry if this has been answered before, but is there a simple work around to use Mafell track with the Parf Guide System? The saw gets caught on the dogs when I try to cut pieces as wide as my table. I could get some Festool track, but that's quite an expense since I already have the Mafell... THanks again for the system, and the inspiration!

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Try setting up some offset dogs for the tall ones that the rail goes against. So, they are in a row of their own and the smaller dogs that you push the wood against are a short distance away. I do cover it in a video or two - if I could remember which ones I would say ! Peter

[@amosluyk]

@@NewBritWorkshop Thanks so much for the reply Peter :) I will hunt through the back catalogue and see what I can find.

[@andrewschannel3635]

Hi Peter I have been getting increasingly frustrated with trying to make mitre cuts with thin strip material on the MFT, I have the 1080 version because of space restrictions. I am considering the purchase of a Sym 70 but that I quite a big investment for me, do you have any solutions for doing this kind of work with the mft and tracksaw? Regards, Andrew

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Andrew, Yes, thin mitre cuts are tricky and especially with a tracksaw on a relatively small bench top. Is the stock that you are cutting too narrow to be fully held in place under the guide rail or is it the narrow offcut that is causing the problem? Peter

[@andrewschannel3635]

New Brit Workshop Hi Peter, The stock that I am cross cutting is sometimes only 38~mm wide so the rail has the tendency to tip and tilt, I have the mft clamp set, and two standard size ujk parf dogs. The added difficulty is when trying to cut mitres as the saw is then bevelled over and also has a tendency to want to tip over, while having to partly support the rail by hand while making the cut Andrew

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Andrew, You should not try and cut anything that does not sit under and is secured by the rubber grip strip under the guide rail. The tilting of the guide rail is very dangerous. To cut the stock that you describe you could join the piece to be cut, using double sided sellotape, to a larger piece of the same thickness. That way the two pieces will be held under the guide rail as intended by Festool. Peter

[@andrewschannel3635]

New Brit Workshop I think what I was really looking for is some kind of protractor that fits in the mft and allows stock to be supported at angels other than 45 & 90. The TSO MTR-18 at Axminster is one option but it’s somewhat over engineered and too large for my needs.

[@stefaneriksson9634]

Nicely executed piece of engineering as always from Parf/UJK. But I don't really get what this thing adds in comparison to a ruler and a piece of wood and a clamp as a stop? It sure looks like a complicated way to solve a very simple task.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Stefan, A ruler and a clamp may well work if it is exactly in the right place at the start. With this gadget you can make small adjustments if your first trial cut is slightly out. You can also do repeat cuts at a later date if you note the position of the stop on the scale. It really does save time, and for the busy professional or perfectionist amateur, it improves accuracy. Cheers. Peter

[@stefaneriksson9634]

The scale on your tool has milimeter resoulution. I wouldn't call that small adjustments. I can easily get within a tenth of a mm to start with and if ever needed adjust it with light knocks on the stop block to get it dead on. A knock takes just a second or two. Compare that to losen two screws, moving the stop and retightening. No time saver as far as I can see. To repeat the cut later I just measure again. It takes only a few seconds to set up and the measurement on the ruler is what you get. With your tool you need to keep note of what holes to fit it to and with more than one size in memory you need to have several marks and be sure to use the right one . I would not trust myself to get that right and would have to bring out the ruler to double check it anyway. So, no, no time saved. The best thing with the clamp and stop block is that it can be tightend really hard. Knocking out a hughe batch of equaly sized pieces you soner or later will slam the stock up to the stop block and knock it out of postition if it hasn't been clamped down properly. Sorry mate. I realy love my Parf super dog, they are briliant, but this tool looks over engineered.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Stefan, I respect your point of view. Thank you for your contribution. Cheers. Peter

[@lasseb5036]

Love it! The music too :):)

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Glad you like it!

[@jenniferw8963]

I am confused, which website is your store Peter? You invented the PARF system right? i.e. 20mm holes 96mm apart? How did Festool end up using your PARF system in its MFT? Would be cool to know a little bit about the history of PARF and your actual web site. It's a great system.. I love that everything is precise and square.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi JG, Festool created the MFT3 with its pattern of 20 mm holes at 96 mm intervals. However, they do not claim that the pattern of rows and columns are at right angles. Hence I came up with the PGS in order to be able to create new tops with absolute accuracy. The Festool MFT3 is a great bit of kit but so much better with a top created with the PGS. Cheers. Peter

[@jenniferw8963]

@@NewBritWorkshop Where do I buy your tool directly from you? I see various stores reselling. Do you have a web site of all your products? Btw, brilliant idea you came up with. (I'm surprised they didn't guarantee them squared since their tops are made by cnc machines I gather).

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi JG, I do not make or sell any of my Parf tools. The original Parf Dogs are made and sold by Lee Valley and all other Parf products, including the PGS, are made and sold by Axminster who have dozens of afiliates arond the world selling the kit as well. Peter

[@paulstocker625]

Last time I tried setting up a stop on the offcut side, as I reached the end of the cut the blade trapped... exactly the same as the mitre saw would do. I suggest using a packer and removing the packer before making the cut unless this tool somehow eliminates this problem?!

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Paul, This should not happen and has never ever happened to me. Do check your track saw to make sure it is running parallel. Peter

[@paulstocker625]

New Brit Workshop I will attempt this cut again with caution though all I’m really saying is I wouldn’t be advising this type of cut unless maybe there is a fence or dogs supporting the offcut to stop it twisting into the blade

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Paul, There must be something causing the issue. It could be your riving knife or something else putting force on the offcut end. Peter

[@paulstocker625]

Hi Peter, yes there must be something causing this I agree! The makita plunge saw doesn’t include a riving knife so using a festool or similar would possibly help and as I know it happens with mitre saws (which also have no means of a riving knife) my only guess is that the back of the saw blade catches the timber and pushes it forwards. If you are holding the workpiece which is against the stop it doesn’t happen though you wouldn’t want to try that with small cuts

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Paul, It is the lack of a riving knife. The Festool TS55 (and I assume the larger TS75) has a retracting riving knife which allows the user to do plunge cuts. Peter

[@christofix]

This is brilliant! i need this too! Thanks for sharing

[@warwickholden6332]

Peter, I am not commenting on the Parf repeat stop, but asking after plans for the Kapex Mitre Work Station. Given problems some viewers seem to have had putting their e-mail addresses on public commments, is this still the method anyone uses to send you a request?

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Warwick, In order to get plans or to contact me via email I need your email address. KZbin no longer has a private messaging service and so in order to get in touch you need to place a comment on this or any other video with your email address. The KZbin software should identify and send it to the spam folder for The New Brit Workshop. Nobody will be able to see your email address except you and me. I will then send you the plans or get in touch by email and delete your comment so that it does not end up in the public domain. Were we to do this the other way around then my comment, with my email address, would appear for all the world to see. Please let me know which plans you need. Peter

[@chris-tg6ki]

May i ask why you decided on 96mm centers instead of 100mm or 4inch say?

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Chris, It is part of the "Euro" standard used in the furniture and cabinet making industry. Peter

[@chris-tg6ki]

@@NewBritWorkshop So there is no benefit if only using the dogs, the size only comes in to play when using premade jigs?

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Yes, the system itself works for 90, 45 and also 30 and 60 degrees - depending on layout. The 96 mm spacing has no bearing on the performance of the track saw cutting station and only is significant when doing particular cabinet work. Peter

[@chris-tg6ki]

@@NewBritWorkshop I've just got around to building my first table and was thinking about drilling holes considering buying the hole jig, but i couldn't see where i would use anything other then the single dogs. A table that dose 45 can also do 22.5/67.5 if you extend the square by double to make rectangle, ie if you are on 4holes by 4holes (45) diagonal if you go 4 by 8 or 2by4 that should give 22.5 degrees and 2by6or8 should give 12.75.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Chris, I am afraid that your 22.5 deg and so on do not work. A 8 x 4 grid gives about 27 deg. I have frequently had to revisit this because it just seems that it should work but it does not. The trigonometrical reason is that in order to halve an angle the opposite side that is bisected has to be part of an equilateral triangle. Peter

[@68HC060]

Peter, you know you're a genious, so do I - thus I won't mention that you're a genious. As you may remember, I've been wondering whether I'd benefit from the 96mm spacing myself. I've been trying to find KZbin videos showing me how to use the PGS for making cabinets, taking advantage of the 96mm spacing, but I found nothing. Thus, I'd like to challenge you a little: Try finding all the things you can benefit from the 96mm system and put in one video; this will likely include making 32mm spaced shelves (I believe it will be an advantage having the PRS when dealing with 32mm spacings). -What I'm saying is that if we're shown how to take advantage of the spacing, I'm pretty sure it'll make even more people want to use the PGS. Example: The 30° and 60° video was something I had not thought of and it's a real eye-opener.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

That is a big challenge which I have noted. Right now I have no workshop at all and it will take another 4 to 6 weeks before I am fully functioning on KZbin. I have a lot of catching up to do as well. I will do my best. Peter

[@68HC060]

There's no rush or pressure, take the time you need. I want you to enjoy what you do, it should never become a burden. ;) I still have several months before I need to decide on the spacing, but I've already decided that I want the Parf-dogs, superdogs, pups, drill-guides and drillbits, so I might just end up getting the complete set.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Go for it - you will not be disappointed. Cheers. Peter

[@jenniferw8963]

I looked at your store and don't see it there. How much is it?

[@NewBritWorkshop]

I do not sell these - take a look at the Axminster web site. Peter

[@magnusericsson]

Very nice I want one to simplify my rail stop calibration (using original mft)

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Excellent. Peter

[@MachineRight]

Hi Peter, thank you for taking the time to make wonderful videos! In all honesty do you use this today? also does it pivot at all?

[@NewBritWorkshop]

I do use it when I am unable to use the Parf System Fence. I am not sure what you mean by pivot - about which axis? Peter

[@janmedic]

Just what I needed! Ordered! Cheers, Peter 🙂

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Jan, I did not include the bonus capability in the video - the dogs can also be used on their own as bench dogs. Cheers. Peter

[@janmedic]

@@NewBritWorkshop even better then. You are just super duper 🙂

[@chipsterb4946]

Peter do you realize that you’ve made a parallel cut guide? One that can cut a strip narrower than the width of the track? This is so cool!

[@NewBritWorkshop]

You do need to be careful how you set narrow cuts up. If the stock is too narrow then it may not be held securely enough by the rubber strip under the guide rail. One way to overcome this, but it must be done with great care, is to use a good quality double sided tape to hold a narrow strip to a second piece whilst doing the cut - both pieces have to be the same thickness. Peter

[@chipsterb4946]

Peter - sorry I wasn’t clear in my excitement. Your demonstration shows you cutting the workpiece on the far side of the track, instead of the workpiece being under the track. All of the parallel cutting guides I’ve seen require that the workpiece be under the track. As you make clear, the waste piece under the track needs to be wide enough for safety. Also, this new product is just an improvement on the near-perfect 90 degree cuts made possible by the precision of the dog holes. But now if I want 4 shelves exactly 11-1/8” wide I can make them consistently and have a high degree of confidence that both long edges will be parallel. (Forgive me my archaic measuring system ;)

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Yes, I understand the concept - excellent. Cheers. Peter

[@KetterHomeImprovements]

Oh yeah, headed off to order now.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Robert, Excellent. Peter

[@KetterHomeImprovements]

Ordered already.... so excited.

[@KetterHomeImprovements]

Peter, I received my PRS today and wow is the quality superb. I have to say the tolerances may be to tight as I cannot remove without completely disassembling the entire dog and pushing it through the bench. I made the top using the Mark 2 and all my other dogs and accessories fit extremely well. Any suggestions? Last, what are the (2) extra rings for in the package?

[@ronh9384]

Very nice piece of kit Peter. (I believe “kit” is what you guys call it on your side of the pond? 😊). Another useful item you folks have produced. Another item I think will be very useful. Maybe the next time you do a multiple topic video can you lay out all of the Parf dog/Parf guide items that are available and do a brief overview of them and maybe discuss any improvements or new items in the works... They are some great items. Thanks Peter Also, have you ever addressed how not to cut through the dog holes when using Parf dogs or other dogs and the rail system? I currently use a spacer but I can’t use the rail clips with that type of setup. Any suggestions? As it is I don’t like cutting through my mft table so I do a thin full overlay table that is an exact copy of the mft (thanks to the UJK Parf guide system) and either repair or replace it as needed. Any advice you have would be appreciated. I don’t know why but cutting into my MFT table just creeps me out. I couldn’t cut into my bench either, at least not on purpose.... Thanks Peter. Have a good day. Ron

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Ron, I will do a piece on the collection of Parf products sometime this year. The key to not cutting through dog holes is to use offset holes for the tall dogs against which the guide rail is pushed. I have demonstrated this many time but would have to start watching my videos again to find out where ! It is likely to be either kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKSleoqCaJWFhpI or maybe here kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoDLdXmEaqirY9U Peter

[@michaelconnors9906]

Another roll out--The UJK Parf Repeat Stop will revolutionize wood-working. You're the Thomas Edison of wood-workers.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Michael, Perhaps I can brighten up a room !! Cheers. Peter

[@JohnHughes2002]

Your MFT stuff looks beautifully engineered but I bet it's jolly expensive!

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi John, The development of these items in order to get them right and worthy of being part of the Parf System has a knock on cost. Axminster have already invested a huge sum in new manufacturing capability and taken on additional skilled members of their team. This is based on a long term plan not short term profit making. The kit is excellent of course. Cheers. Peter

[@JohnHughes2002]

@@NewBritWorkshop I totally understand that quality kit costs money - your workshop is sort of like a dream workshop that us newbies can aspire to.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi John, I started my adult life with just a few hand tools and a trestle on the back step. When we got married I used our single garage which was too small for a normal car - typical of old houses in the UK. I then had my normal day job and did 5 sessions a week working in a pub behind the bar plus 2 evenings teaching. I slowly acquired better tools and a few power tools. I kept this up until I retired and decided to make a new career from YouTubing and designing all sorts of things. The first breakthrough came when Lee Valley took on the original Parf Dogs and this was followed by the formal creation of the "Parf" brand and my link to Axminster. All of that has spanned 50 plus years with many thousands of hours of overtime. Cheers. Peter

[@JohnHughes2002]

@@NewBritWorkshop I wasn't meaning to be critical in any way but it was nice to hear a bit of your life story.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

I did not take it as critical but felt that people should know that I have had to work quite hard to get to where I am today. I hope this will inspire others to do a few extra hours of overtime in order to get something nice. Cheers. Peter

[@PSchaug]

Just what I have been waiting for, thank you! Ordered :-)

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Petter, Brilliant, well done. Peter

[@christianbuzio9468]

The benchdog whisperer!

[@markhall3323]

Made me think I could diy something similar for feather boards

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Mark, Do not spend more time making something than you would need to earn the cash (it will be tax deductible for a business) to buy one !! But I do understand what you mean. Peter

[@garlicbad]

Cutting station is becoming more complex. Nice idea tho.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Ethan, But at least those repeat cuts will be spot on. Peter

[@JohnHughes2002]

Looking awfully dapper in your recent videos LOL. Must be because it's summer.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi John, Yes, summer is here and the workshop can be quite warm. Peter

[@JohnHughes2002]

@@NewBritWorkshop you look like you're off to the yacht club!

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi John, I am so poor that I cannot even spell Yot ! Peter

[@JohnHughes2002]

@@NewBritWorkshop the yot klub near me has a cafe with a nice view of the estuary which is open to the public!

[@satbythesea]

Sold!!

[@LostWhits]

Nice addition.

[@bikezubehoer]

i like your videos very much, but a piece of scrap wood and a clamp will do this Job very good

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Frank, That may be so but it is not so easy to set up or adjust by a couple of millimetres as this new repeat stop. Cheers. Peter

[@bikezubehoer]

@@NewBritWorkshop at this point you are right

[@jamescherry9424]

Or try measuring and nailing a bit of wood to your bench.

[@morbidmorebread]

Absolutely 2 expensive

[@vileguile4]

Really..??

[@adrianmack3]

Make your own to the same precision, see how many hours it takes you, get back to us if you are willing to work for cheap ;)