Introduction to Hao Family Mantis (Taiji Meihua Mantis)

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[@thomashenderson9004]

Do U call your Monkey steals peach 🍑 because your Chinese Zodiac sign is monkey 🐒 & put steals peach 🍑 as a reference to a famous phrase in martial arts? If so , good 1👍

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

@@thomashenderson9004 nah, I just named it after a common form practiced in Mantis, White Ape Steals Peach

[@thomashenderson9004]

@@MonkeyStealsPeach It's also one of the palm press moves in the Wing Chun mon joy Wooden Dummy practice man

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

@@thomashenderson9004 yea its a common name in CMA styles as it’s taken from the story of Sun Wu Kong causing havoc in heaven

[@thomashenderson9004]

@@MonkeyStealsPeach Yes thank you 4 understanding that , when it comes to fighting with a martial art based on animals & insects, 1. Learning from a school, dogo or academy a disciple gets half the knowledge of movement of the creature from hundreds of years of traditional styles which maybe still effective today. 2.True knowledge is self discovery of the movements of the creatures alive today. With good martial perception 1 can observed the movements of creatures today consider an ideal from them. The fictional technique Centipede of the film 🎥 5 Venoms, I actually observed a Centipede I had as a pet & developed an exercise course based on 1. The techniques of the creature in the movie 🎥 2. The actual movements of a real Centipede 🙌 🦵& created a couple of fatal moves that never been shown in movies because of my resource.

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Thank you for these videos man, this channel and the patreon is seriously a treasure trove of knowledge.

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

Thanks! I got a lot of free time this week so gonna film a load of stuff for Patreon

[@prayingmantiskungfuacademy1873]

Thank you for sharing our family style. Keep up the good content! Best regards from Florida, US.

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

Thanks Jason! Hope you’re doing well!

[@EzeHSK]

Great video as always! A very good friend of my Sifu studies Taiji Meihua Tanglang with Master Sun Deyao from Qingdao.

[@botanicalbiohacking6065]

"eccentric..running around Yantai in his underwear." ..clearly a nutter. Glad that the weird uncle's story made the cut. Amazing information. Great historic context.

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

The original Wim Hoff

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

His son, Hao Zhong Yue, used to be my Shifu’s drinking buddy. So got a lot of these stories from back in the day. Zhong Yue was a pickpocket and used to empty the pockets of his father’s students during training too

[@MrEyal96]

Thank you so much for another video full of valuable information!

[@AngloSaxon1]

Great video, very informative.

[@michaelbarnhart2451]

As always Will, loved it 👍👍 very interesting stuff 😊

[@fielramos3560]

YESSSS!

[@chrisowens4424]

Great new introduction, love it!

[@panchopirata5593]

Love your content! It's great to have the chance ti learn about the history and context in which ancient styles were developed. Could you do some review about Choy Lee Fut? It would be much appreciated. Cheers and greetings from Chile 🙏🏻

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

I don't know much about Choy Lee Fut I'm afraid.

[@TaijiArtsOfficial]

Nice summary, Will!

[@mooyingmantis]

Excellent summation of Hao family history and theory! As you know, my shifu, Zhang Wei Fu, is a member of the Hao Heng Lu lineage. It is great to see other members of the family opening up about these things. As far as the "sixth songs" I have heard that he was actually a nephew who came to live with the Hao family after his father died. Though I can not positively substantiate this. Thank you for this video! This is why I support your channel and encourage my students to do the same.

[@mooyingmantis]

Oops "sixth son".

[@martialhealth4062]

Interesting information! Thanks for sharing!

[@mooyingmantis]

Will, do you have the Chinese characters, pinyin or translation of title, Hua Xin style, mentioned in the video? Thank you!

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

huihua men. Im not sure the characters coz I just heard my shifu say it, never wrote it

[@mooyingmantis]

@@MonkeyStealsPeach Thank you for the quick reply!

[@ghostbeetle2950]

Very interesting, thanks!

[@julioezequiel8935]

Really interesting

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

First comment! And damn it was quick!

[@mq6601]

Hi ,could you make a video about seven star mantis or maybe you've already done it?

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

Already done lol! Check the Taiji Mantis playlist

[@jeeohun]

Amazing!

[@SeanWangNYC]

As a descendant of Hao Family Mantis Arts, I have to say the system you introduced is mainly with Hao Hengxin. Taiji Pi(太极劈) and Chuanzhi (穿枝) forms you mentioned in the video were created by Hao Hengxin and are not for his brothers lineage. In my lineage which is from Hao Henglu, we don't have those forms but focus on other trainings. Also, in Hao Mantis system, it's not called Luanjie (乱接), but Lanjie(拦截). It is written in the family system scroll. The moves seem similar to Taiji Mantis, but the applications are very different. Actually, the differences are more than 80% in those 2 systems. As you said, we don't sway our body that much.

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

Thanks for the info. I have always heard those forms are from Hao Lian Ru. From where do you know that Hao Heng Xin created them?

[@SeanWangNYC]

@@MonkeyStealsPeach Hao Henglu and Hao Hengpo's students did not know them initially. From what I know, Hao Bin's students in Qingdao and Hao Henglu's students in Harbin and Chaoyang learned those forms from Hao Hengxin's students. In Hao system, White money steals peach (白猿偷桃, as your ID) is a new form as well as Chuanzhi (穿枝) . Because Hao family has another form just called White monkey (白猿), which people sometimes referring it as Old white monkey. The moves in White monkey is unique and has few same ones you can find in other forms. I was told that was brought from Sheng Yuan Men (圣猿门, Holy Monkey style) by Hao Lianru, as a reminder for his old style.

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

That’s really interesting! Thanks for sharing. My teacher says he learnt Sheng Yuan Men as a kid, but you are the only other person to mention this style besides him. I haven’t been able to find any information on it.

[@SeanWangNYC]

@@MonkeyStealsPeach There are a lot of small style disappeared in the history. The style you mentioned Hui Hua Men is not very correct. From what I know, it's called Hua Hui Men (花卉门).

[@ambulocetusnatans]

I used to work with a guy who knew some Plum Flower Mantis. He demonstrated a form for me, but he wouldn't teach me any. He said he wasn't qualified to teach, but I suspect he just didn't know me well enough. Maybe if I had stayed there longer I could have gained his confidence.

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

That’s cool. Wonder if it was Hao Jia or something else?

[@ambulocetusnatans]

@@MonkeyStealsPeach I don't know. The only thing I can tell you is he called it Mei Hua Tang Lang, not Tai Ji Mei Hua Tang Lang. I don't know if that's a clue or not.

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

As I said in my last video, the names are interchangeable, so hard to say

[@frankmartinez4856]

Great intro into this style Mantis! Here in the U.S. Tan Tui Mantis( Wah Lum temple) as well as Chut Sing,& Tai Chi Tang Lang 😅

[@davidbarnwellutech4663]

can you spell hui huaman for me? Im interested in that style

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

Hui hua men

[@WuDaoHamburg]

Very Cool, thank you.

[@UatuEd]

Huihuamen sounds quite interesting - any idea how to write that in Chinese?

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

Not sure the Hui, but 花门

[@UatuEd]

@@MonkeyStealsPeach Thanks a lot! Makes sense in retrospect...

[@kwisatz_haderach1445]

Perhaps an early form of Wim Hof?

[@brunoballardini4879]

Frankly speaking, don't you think that what we see today of these ancient forms that had been totally erased during the Maoist revolution is largely deformed by the modern Wu Shu aesthetics and perhaps even profoundly altered to the point of being as superficial as Wu Shu itself?

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

No, not at all. My teacher and many others I have met had learnt the art before the cultural revolution. Also, the way the art is practiced in places like Taiwan is basically the same too

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[@eileenfabri5497]

Are you, or have you done a video about Li Kwan Shan?