Introduction to MIDI 2 0

[@AndersonPEM]

Midi never left 1.0 for over 30 years. It's an extremely ubiquitous format. It's great to see the evolution by collaboration, and not a closed thing by a mega corporation. Can't wait to have MIDI 2.0 instruments :D

[@EdSchroedinger]

I am somewhat baffled about things being that quiet right here, especially in the light of the fact that MIDI is a communication standard which is used by an extensive industry segment and a sheer uncountable amount of groups and individuals all over the world for like 35odd years, revolutionary for opening a world of new possibilities in music and entertainment business back then and amazingly still a solid, trusted, and proven standard until today... especially in a time of ever accelerating development and new concepts coming into existence all the time since when usually you can count yourself lucky to find some good standard that survives or even establishes within some 5 to 10 years even... certainly, quite some demand to improve/extend and to find ways how to deal with some shortcomings had a decent amount of time to build up along those years in practice and yet, quite contrary to the amount of voices calling for a long time necessary overhaul over a prolonged period of time now, the resonance seems to be oddly shy when it eventually arrives... however, just be me being puzzled... TL;DR: following the video, I'm quite curious learning about the details regarding the new specification, this not only sounds rather promising already but even kinda ratifies for it to be worthwile hanging in a few decades until that next level manifests. thanx for all the work, very much appreciated already, still, and again!

[@MerlinErdogmus]

I think it's so quite because everyone speaks about the abilities in 2.0 but nobody gives out an exact release date for every device. So far there is one 900 Pound expensive keyboard out there that supports this and that is it.

[@TachyBunker]

This is the best thing to compensate Flash's loss!!

[@_nom_]

Not a loss. Gain

[@CalikoTube]

Apple killed Flash.

[@mfaizsyahmi]

This 2.0 jump is frankly the most jarring transition a standard could make. Like a grandfather suddenly thrown into a Starship to colonize Mars. But that's only due to the almost 40 year gap between the specs. So many workaround solutions have been devised in the mean time to carry it into the next millenium and make it be the versatile standard that it is today, that I hope 2.0 can completely solve, and in turn carry us through to the 22nd century.

[@TheUnderscore_]

22nd century is still a ways away... most of us won't even be alive when it hits (assuming medicine doesn't advance _that_ much). Little much to ask for 80 years of support, considering classical computers have _barely_ existed for that long.

[@FransvandenBergeMuziekschuur]

Why is the specification not explained further. Why is there no technical explanation? Broken up in chips, internal code and the language devices use to talk to each other? Why was the first Roland midi 2.0 keyboard a somewhat ‘stupid’ device ?

[@TheMIDIAssociation]

The specification is available for public download on MIDI.org. In fact, Embodme, a French company downloaded the MIDI 2.0 specification and implemented MIDI 2.0 protocol internally in their Erae Touch before they ever talked to anyone in the MIDI Association. They are now a MIDI Association member. A video interview of the Embodme team is on the home page of MIDI.org. Look for some updates on the current state of MIDI 2.0 coming soon in an article on MIDI.org as well.

[@laidbackmedia]

The French haha All makes sense now. Very naughty what you guys did to Pioneer 2008. Enjoy the payback @@TheMIDIAssociation

[@j7ndominica051]

I'm pleasantly surprised it isn't built upon XML or other Webby formats.

[@lennardvillasenor5151]

The reality is that the 2.0 format was only needed with the advent of MPE since the original midi 1.0 had future proofed areas for system exclusive cc which were sufficient for 30 years. The shift to USB has been good in some ways being able to transmid midi AND audio reduces the wiring setup. The MPE specification requiredchamnnel rotation for each successive midi note, so this allows for more expressive life performances for the trained musicians with actual performance skills. Will be interesting to see the longevity of this standard as in all other areas, such as H264 Video Streaming, the standards are replaced H265 in the course of years not decades.

[@fuzzybeverage8887]

MPE is kind of a hack job work around to get MIDI to do things such as per note pitch bend and cc expression to deal with some areas that MIDI 1.0 was lacking for microtonal or expressive playing. By using MPE you miss out on being able to use multiple channels in the traditional sense. The felt need for some of the things MIDI 2.0 brings has been around for some time, and musicians have used quite cumbersome work arounds. The adoption of an MPE standard clarified that MIDI 2.0 was indeed needed considering that workarounds were being standardized.

[@nutsosix7930]

in this future, it'd be nice to edit live instead per note trigger. Example is Velocity on one note midi note can change velocity live. Go from low- (quite) velocity to high- (loud) velocity. its not the same as volume.

[@TotallyGoodatGames]

I'm looking forward to MIDI 2.0 in the future whenever it comes out!

[@verstaerker]

well, the specs are out... up to the manufacturers to use and implement it

[@sboxab6627]

It's good information but the background music too high.

[@ami2evil]

They were talking about MIDI 2.0 way back in 05 when auto-tune was first coming out...

[@djkurtstudio]

Auto-tune has been about since the mid to late 90's.

[@_nom_]

I love midi files. Almost forget about them.

[@qtuner1]

my playstation promised backwards compatibility too

[@NickAc]

🤣

[@craiganderton1422]

FWIW it was a priority for MIDI 2.0, the design itself is backward compatible. Because of that, some MIDI 1.0 gear can incorporate MIDI 2.0 features.

[@qtuner1]

@@craiganderton1422 i think they over complicated the new spec. I hope I’m wrong

[@akeiai]

@@qtuner1 thats the point, many functions cause they want this to last for a lot of years. Software upgrades are expensive. Hardware too. So if they can fit everything right now, then in the future, there'd be less hassle, as software tends to use the features a lot more

[@craiganderton1422]

@@qtuner1 Like MIDI 1.0, manufacturers can use the particular subset that relates to their gear. I'm quite sure MIDI 1.0 gear will continue to be produced when the extra features aren't needed.

[@VulaneMthembu]

Bravo!

[@rezganger]

what happened with this? is it even in use? i havent seen it in relation to anything yet. it sound awesome,tho.

[@GR-M3]

Thumbs up! Fantastic!!!!

[@peterjohnjoseph]

Now I'm afraid to upgrade my hardware synths, knowing MIDI 2.0 mods are just on the horizon. Imagine having Sysex instantly understood for each vintage synth you own, being able to control each parameter without having to program a controller or buy synth specific controllers?

[@arthurneeman]

I didn't know that Yamaha MG10XU has MIDI and even more - MIDI 2.0! Wow! How can I use it? Through USB or Power cable?

[@scorepiano]

And what about the midi format? (MIDI files)

[@TheMIDIAssociation]

The MIDI Association has an SMF 2 working group that is making great progress.

[@AloanMoreira1]

all I wanted was 32 midi tracks instead of 16 hahaha

[@paulmark992]

Please, I beg of you. Please exist until the end of humanity

[@TRaddcliff]

when does this roll out?

[@TheCraigAnderton]

It will roll out over time, just like MIDI 1.0. MIDI 2.0 is designed to have a long life. Although delayed by the pandemic, it looks like products will start appearing in 2022.

[@mortenrobinson5421]

can older modern synths be firmware updated to support midi 2.0?

[@TheCraigAnderton]

Some can be updated to incorporate some features, but it will have to be on a case-by-case basis. It won't be possible to do something like, for example, add higher resolution to a synth that doesn't support it.

[@marcello4258]

If you have standard midi plugs probably not.

[@juwonnnnn]

👌

[@NelsonClick]

I hope this means no translation device will be needed between 2.0 and 1.0. I will only accept a single cable that is MIDI to USB.

[@imjeffvaderofficial]

I suspect by when this takes off you won't even have USB any more.

[@vertigev]

Is this still a thing?

[@XBASS247]

Is going a be firmware update for stuff already or new hardware

[@cessposter]

backwards compatibility will definitely be added

[@TheCraigAnderton]

Some MIDI 1.0 gear can incorporate some MIDI 2.0 features, but it has to happen on a case-by-case basis. MIDI 1.0 gear will be able to talk to MIDI 2.0 gear.

[@AxelWerner]

WHY ARE YOU HIDING THE SPECS BEHIND A REGISTERING/LOGIN WALL ? That's already FISHY!

[@laidbackmedia]

midi 2's only purpose is to interpret your pure chords into their devious industry.

[@RussianSevereWeatherVideos]

But will it run DooM?

[@carnifexx]

random tiny channel "TheMIDIAssociation Gmail" producing the official MIDI2 marketing videos? Is this a Joke?

[@InaccuratePiano]

Smells like IPv6

[@neon_one]

I almost think it should be called something that doesn't require you say two point oh every time.Why not just IDI or MDI? eye dee eye isn't too bad

[@iurigrang]

Just say midi 2 and everybody will get it. It's also spicy meme content imo. Kinda like despacito 2

[@michaelwashboard2323]

REALLY, is it that hard to say and write MIDI 2.0, It doesn't take that long to say and it's still easy to remember. At least they didn't call it "MIDI version 2.0"

[@imjeffvaderofficial]

Oooh, nooo! DIALOG! Data exchange, self identification, connected nonsense. Can't wait for vulnerabilities and scenarios where an inadvertent device brings down the whole daisy chain.. Sure, it is important that overpaid superstars can order skank with a button on their dj mixers, but in my not so humble opinion, just moving to say 921600bps or even TCP/UDP/IP and adding a semi-standard definition layer probably over sysex would have done much greater service to the state of stuff.