Introduction To MIDI For Guitar Pedals & How To Use It - That Pedal Show

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In this video we delve into the near-limitless possibilities that MIDI brings to the guitar pedal world.
It’s a big subject with a tremendous number of potential applications, so we start from the beginning and explain the three basic functionality benefits that MIDI offers to pedal users. They are PCM (patch/program change messages), CC (continuous control) and MIDI Clock.
The upshot is that if you have MIDI-enabled pedals and some form of MIDI controller you can access a vast number of patch and parameter changes across multiple devices with one single footswitch press.
Please note that this video is focussed on the kind of pedals we use - high quality stompboxes, preferably with as much analogue signal path as possible. Regular viewers will know that we’re not into digital multi FX, rack gear or digital modelling amps/processors. They can all benefit from MIDI control as well of course, but we don't deal with them here.
Please enjoy the video…
Pedals in this episode…
• TheGigRig Three2One
www.thegigrig.com/three2one
• D’Addario Pedal Tuner
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2tIN4lD
USA: bit.ly/3m7kgRm
Australia: bit.ly/2tfHqHN
• Source Audio Reflex Universal Expression Pedal
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2oxpLvg
Australia: bit.ly/2fapzQL
• Ramble FX Kismet
www.ramblefx.com/
• Chase Bliss Audio Warped Vinyl HiFi
www.chasebliss.eu/warped-viny...
• Strymon TimeLine
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2fzulGD
USA: imp.i114863.net/5rk6D
Australia: bit.ly/2pSEFKm
• Eventide H9 - No longer made. Links to H9 Max
UK & Europe: bit.ly/3p8kngN
Australia: bit.ly/3LTWjbq
USA: bit.ly/32eqHLm
• Chase Bliss Audio Midibox
www.chasebliss.eu/shoputility...
• TheGigRig MIDI Driver
www.thegigrig.com/midi-driver
• TheGigRig G2
www.thegigrig.com/g2
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Interesting bits and go-to sections…
- Intro playing and background: 00:00
- We have some new toys: 1:13
- Today’s amps: 1:46
- MEAT! 2:08
- Today’s questions: 2:47
- What is MIDI? 3:45
- PCM, CC and MIDI clock? 5:05
- PCM: program change messages: 5:33
- Can all pedals do MIDI? 8:45
- How does the MIDI switcher know what to change in the pedal? 10:08
- MIDI channels? 12:25
- Programming the MIDI controller: 15:58
- Ramble FX Kismet and Chase Bliss Audio Warped Vinyl HiFi: 16:20
- MIDI connections? 19:55
- An example with the Warped Vinyl HiFi: 21:50
- What is that Collings? 23:25
- Sounds in the Kismet: 25:30
- CC - continuous control messages: 30:25
- MIDI clock for synchronised temp changes: 37:55
- MIDI clock with reverb and delay: 38:30
- Eventide H9 App and MIDI clock: 40:35
- H9 / TimeLine / Warped Vinyl with dotted 8ths? 43:35
- Let’s create some patches: 46:33
- Dan plays the new presets (thank goodness): 50:00
- …and remote control with Bluetooth? 53:10
Guitars in this episode:
• Fender Custom Shop 1963 Telecaster - watch Dan’s video at bit.ly/2dlZJ6K
• Collings I-30LC - www.collingsguitars.com/electr...
Amps in this episode
• Marshall 1987x head with 2061x cabinet, Celestion G12H Anniversary speakers
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USA That Pedal Shop: bit.ly/3v3Xazc
• Fender Hot Rod Deluxe III - no longer made, link to latest version
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USA: imp.i114863.net/agNqQ
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@npinero1
@npinero1 6 жыл бұрын
I am a guitarist and a keyboard player. This is by far the best explanation. MIDI for guitar is underused. It ain’t easy, but if you keep the various ways MIDI works in your head and you can implement it, the world is your oyster.
@PatFlanigan
@PatFlanigan 6 жыл бұрын
Been using MIDI for 20 years, but doing so with guitar is one of the things I know nothing about! Looking forward to this!
@tomquayleguitar
@tomquayleguitar 6 жыл бұрын
Oh! 4k. Looking lovely chaps!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 6 жыл бұрын
Hello Tom! Still a lot of work to do, but we have to start somewhere!
@Mesa3077Boogie
@Mesa3077Boogie 6 жыл бұрын
Mick, you don't have to apologize when things seem redundant. you are absolutely Justified in reiterating the basics even if multiple times in an episode!
@reason2463
@reason2463 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks TPS for covering m1d1 from a guitarist's perspective! I'm just at the point in my new pedal build where I want to begin to program midi presets. Perfect timing! Especially the parts about CC messages that expression pedals don't cover. You've reduced a midi newbie's frustration level by miles with this one show!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 6 жыл бұрын
That’s great to hear Brian! Hope we’ve illuminated the path a little bit and it makes your journey somewhat easier!
@MrSh8ky
@MrSh8ky 6 жыл бұрын
“MIDI” - The “Chewbacca Defense” - BANG!!!!! (sound of my head exploding). Seriously guys thank you for that brilliant overview and examples of practical applications for MIDI. Keep up the great work. Marty from Melbourne. Australia.
@vincet68
@vincet68 6 жыл бұрын
14:17 - that moment when Mick’s brain fills up to the brim! 😄
@StratsRUs
@StratsRUs Жыл бұрын
Four years old and still the perfect guide for my intro to MIDI pedals.Thank you.
@catthegearguy2048
@catthegearguy2048 6 жыл бұрын
You guys are BEAST MODE!!!
@TheStumptownRider
@TheStumptownRider 6 жыл бұрын
With you Mick, my head is exploding. Cool video probably be going over this one a few times
@juanmaperera
@juanmaperera 6 жыл бұрын
Beautifully explained Dan, thank you very much!
@pmunkey1
@pmunkey1 6 жыл бұрын
Only 15 mins in and my mind is already blown, great episode as ever guys. X
@YMESYDT
@YMESYDT 6 жыл бұрын
“If you know about midi you might not need to watch this”... Ha, funny. What else would I do, get ahead at work? :) great show guys
@Piplodocus
@Piplodocus 6 жыл бұрын
Cody Carrig Yep, nothing I didn’t know before and I could add a boat load more ideas, tips and explanations, but I can’t not watch an episode of TPS now can I?
@eranmontiel
@eranmontiel 6 жыл бұрын
I'll probably never use midi, but I watched the whole episode because I always learn something new from you guys. Keep it up!
@chrisegg7936
@chrisegg7936 5 жыл бұрын
Eran Montiel same, when i first found the show i would go through and only watch episodes that appealed to me. Then i watched one of the tape echo episodes out of curiosity and just like that, had to watch them all lol
@breeky_nassau341
@breeky_nassau341 6 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a Selah Scarlett Love v3 pedal on the show. It's a nice OD with seemingly simple midi capabilities (though I've never tried one). Also, I am intrigued by the RJM Mastermind PBC loop switcher. You can sift through songs on a small screen and your presets can become verse, chorus, bridge, solo, etc. So you can have your set list ready to go. However, I am like Mick. I have completely avoided MIDI. Love the show!
@gabcc54
@gabcc54 6 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this a long time ago thank you! also thank you for all of the other videos I've learned a lot!
@gentGTR
@gentGTR 4 жыл бұрын
Mick's questions throughout were very helpful.
@stevemacneil4819
@stevemacneil4819 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, until now I couldn’t figure out how to send midi from g2 to one pedal but not the other, thanks Dan!! And thank you Mick for making him dumb it down!!!!
@AndyDemos
@AndyDemos 6 жыл бұрын
31:15 CC messages, that’s where MyDy gets real interesting. Well done fellas!
@buzzwilson9346
@buzzwilson9346 6 жыл бұрын
I'm truly beginning to love this show more than Game of Thrones! Very helpful info. Thx guys!
@phatman1478
@phatman1478 6 жыл бұрын
That Collings with the dog ears sounds amazing! Cheers!
@Mr_Bollie
@Mr_Bollie 6 жыл бұрын
Should be named "Collie's" then. ;)
@linusgtc
@linusgtc 6 жыл бұрын
Well done, Dan, well done. That was nuts!
@JYelton
@JYelton 6 жыл бұрын
I started with MIDI keyboards 20 years ago, and only recently started using pedals with synths. So while it's not new, I can totally appreciate Mick's perspective, which is a bit overwhelmed at times. I identify with Dan though, where I'm totally excited by tech.
@evanmiller2579
@evanmiller2579 6 жыл бұрын
I have toyed with midi in the past. I had a number of the line 6 rack mount units (delay, modulation) and used a midi controller to do a lot of what you are showing in the video. Ironically, your show in general made me bring back the board by my mic stand and ditch the rack mount units. When I saw the theme today I thought "Awe Come on!". Well done.
@GitShiddy
@GitShiddy 6 жыл бұрын
This is a great intro to midi. I genuinely feel like I have a grasp of it based on this and honestly seems fairly simple. However it feels quite extravagant for your average musician, even though a midi rig would immediately tighten a band & ease the guitarists workload while playing.
@cheyneluke9330
@cheyneluke9330 4 жыл бұрын
Oh man - this has blown my mind! I always kind of dismissed midi - A bit like you Mick I just couldn’t be bothered with it and I couldn’t really see the need for it! But this makes so much sense. To be able to change parameters on a single pedal using midi is awesome! The merge of analog/digital is the way of the future.
@leonbarron368
@leonbarron368 6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Just what I was looking for (again!)
@MiguelMorenoGP
@MiguelMorenoGP 6 жыл бұрын
I have one of those original ADA MPC controllers. With new switches and a nice refinish it continues to serve me well after 30 years or so of its life (it’s older than me!)
@SeanPierceJohnson
@SeanPierceJohnson 6 жыл бұрын
Mick’s reaction at 14:18 is me. But I love you guys for doing this! Thank you
@geofftate6113
@geofftate6113 6 жыл бұрын
I've watched this from start to finish and among all that info, lies the confirmation that Dan has a brain the size of a planet!
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 6 жыл бұрын
Geoff Tate But he's not terminally depressed like Marvin.
@marcushogan6613
@marcushogan6613 6 жыл бұрын
OMG it's 4K. Also those not so subtle David Gilmour shout outs in your flanger video were brilliant. I had the pleasure of hearing him use an electric mistress live 2 years ago at Pompeii for the final performance of Comfortably Numb. Greatest gig I will ever see in my life!
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 6 жыл бұрын
What's 4k?
@doctiberius2717
@doctiberius2717 6 жыл бұрын
Matt Gilbert I'm not sure but I think it sounds Spanish? 🐵
@davidhegarty2836
@davidhegarty2836 6 жыл бұрын
Another great show, thanks Dan and Mick for educating the uneducated like myself week in week out!
@bleeknoir
@bleeknoir 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another wonderful show, really helpful to have the black art of midi explained! Happy 420 gents. Here's to ya. x
@RenanBeltrao
@RenanBeltrao 6 жыл бұрын
Churrascaria! (brazilian guy here) Man is still to invent something better than a good tasty churrasco!
@Tomsdrawings
@Tomsdrawings 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you! What a wonderful episode again. Good luck with finding a new studio. Considering the MIDI subject, it’s funny to observe there’s a bit of Dan and a fair bit of Mick in oneself.
@Dougal78
@Dougal78 6 жыл бұрын
Challenge for another video - I challenge you guys to get as many G2’s and quartermasters as you need, and get ALL your pedals set up and switchable, and able to output to any of your amps! Just imagine the chaos haha The concept of digital brain, analogue heart is amazing. What an array of possibilities.
@iananderson12796
@iananderson12796 6 жыл бұрын
Love those tshirts!
@YachtEventHorizon
@YachtEventHorizon 3 жыл бұрын
This cleared up many unknowns and confusion about MIDI for me.
@fernandocastro6279
@fernandocastro6279 6 жыл бұрын
Hello, I’m Fernando, a guitar player from Spain. I’m one of your patreon guys. As I wrote on the community page of patreon, don’t worry about the giveaways. It was a great idea, but I am a patreon because I enjoy very much the show every Friday (and some Tuesdays) and it’s very educational for me. I had lost a little of my passion for playing after many years of studying, practicing, teaching and playing professionally. What I have learned with the show has helped me rediscover the pleasure of playing. Good tones and good gear (and how to use it) inspires me and I greatly love and enjoy what I do again. Thank you very much for that and long life to the show. (Sorry for this large post but I have to write it. Cheers!!)
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 6 жыл бұрын
We appreciate it Fernando, and that’s the absolute best result we could hope for - that you feel more inspired to play more. Simple as that. Thank you for being part of the TPS family!
@chrisbenson673
@chrisbenson673 6 жыл бұрын
Love the show. Love the new T-shirts. I have a brain cramp now though. Keep up the great work boys!!
@Nappi1996
@Nappi1996 3 жыл бұрын
This helped me A LOT especially with my new G2. Cheers guys! 🙏🙏
@andyreynolds5575
@andyreynolds5575 6 жыл бұрын
I LOVE Fridays, I was like a coiled spring waiting for this. Dan and Mick could talk about anything and I’d watch it. Thanks guys! yet more knowledge crammed into my tiny brain 🤘😎🤘
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 6 жыл бұрын
Ah, cheers Andy :)
@oansun
@oansun 6 жыл бұрын
I use midi through a controller to witch patches on an old Boss ME-5. New midi controlling old midi, still works and is wonderful. It's basically an analog (except reverb and digital) H9. It just is amazing the standard hasn't changed in decades, controlling a DD-500 AND an ME-5
@franknguitars7671
@franknguitars7671 6 жыл бұрын
That was well done! I did know this stuff but I enjoyed watching this! TC electronics had a digitally controlled analog dual drive (nova drive) with MIDI capability many years ago. Apparently it never became popular and was discontinued. I still have one and now I feel inspired to take it out again. I remember it being a bit noisy but good sounding and highly flexibel with the routing. I certainly welcome the modern trend towards MIDI controlled analogue devices. It makes for compact killer setups.
@justingarcia7722
@justingarcia7722 6 жыл бұрын
This video started out so educational out the gate that when Dan said, “let’s take a look at the timeline,” I really thought he was going to pull up a chart
@davidrg1550
@davidrg1550 6 жыл бұрын
Finally! Well done!
@instyle63
@instyle63 6 жыл бұрын
MIDI...pretty sure it stands for Mine Isn't Doing It!!!!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 6 жыл бұрын
Love you. :0)
@instyle63
@instyle63 6 жыл бұрын
Right back at ya....great show and that Kismet sounds awesome!!!
@benjamintirons
@benjamintirons Жыл бұрын
The Mick reaction at 14:17 is me for the full 56 minutes LOL!!!
@wildersparks9161
@wildersparks9161 6 жыл бұрын
I’ll always like videos you guys post. Even when they’re about wretched, vile guitar MIDI technology.
@glennromano9053
@glennromano9053 6 жыл бұрын
Another great video guys!! Two suggestions for future topics= First, Tones for Rhythm players. Love hearing you guys play separately, but would love to hear how you go through the process of sounding great together. Second, TPS "Live"!! We all have issues having great tone in the studio/practice space and having to adjust on the fly at the venue. Cheers and thanks for all that you do!!
@abramtreadwell722
@abramtreadwell722 6 жыл бұрын
Yes! Just the episode I was waiting for. Thanks guys! Edit: 4k looks incredible BTW
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 6 жыл бұрын
It’ll look a lot better on a few weeks.
@sharpbends
@sharpbends 6 жыл бұрын
TRS - Tip Ring Sleeve ;-) Seriously though, great work with such a dry subject. Got a flanger during the week & loving it, that's the downside of watching your show, I blame the infectious enthusiasm & inspiration you're peddling. Keep it up :-)
@litteratehik7070
@litteratehik7070 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining this. I’ve been looking for midi tutorials but every pedal is different as are controllers your vid is the closest I have to a proper tutorial. Sold my chase bliss tonal recall for a warped vinyl Please review chase bliss thermae and condor!!
@dustinsmith6317
@dustinsmith6317 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic information...now I need a G2! I appreciate your efforts to educate as always.
@manifestgtr
@manifestgtr Жыл бұрын
It took me *years* to finally get into midi…I think everyone has their own journey. But now I can’t live without it. Two observations…the first is the most obvious. You can instantaneously switch from your wettest clean setting to a completely driven, dry crunch setting with one click, zero thought, and only what you absolutely need in your chain at that moment. Second and less obvious…midi is incredibly robust and reliable. By now, I’ve played several hundred professional gigs with my midi setup…some have been low pressure, some backing up major label artists, everything in between. It’s worked every time, no questions asked…and I have an es-8, external midi thru box, several cables (including 1/8” mini midi), running 3 separate channels with dozens of program changes. Midi is nothing to be scared of…you *almost* need to have it on the pro circuit nowadays with people running all these “shows” via pro tools, click tracks, in-ear systems, talkback mics, etc.
@grupoboheme906
@grupoboheme906 Жыл бұрын
Wicked!!! Thank you for the insights with MIDI!!! CHEERS from Costa Rica!! 🇨🇷🇨🇷🇨🇷
@MrWolf5150
@MrWolf5150 6 жыл бұрын
Clear as mud !!!
@reason2463
@reason2463 6 жыл бұрын
Guys, a show like this rightfully requires multiple subsequent references and viewings. I have done so several times now on several systems and I would like to thank you and Simon for making the difference between guitar volume and vocal volume essentially go away in your show. I am no longer forced to adjust my volume to accommodate either sound. Not that I don't like loud guitars. But I am glad that now the vocals are about as loud as the guitars are! Good job! Thanks!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brian. When I was doing the audio, I could tell the new vocal mics were better, just wasn’t sure why or how. But listening back to this and the podcast version, it’s pretty clear. Which is gratifying as they’re over £800 each! Gadzoooookks!
@ferranlagar2125
@ferranlagar2125 6 жыл бұрын
So helpful as always. Thank you
@WhatsUpWhitey
@WhatsUpWhitey 6 жыл бұрын
Great show! Not something I believe will fit for me now but this definitely helps to bring clarity in making the decision. And that Collings! 🔥🔥🔥
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the Collings was the interesting bit for me. Mick here. :0)
@jlwguitar
@jlwguitar 6 жыл бұрын
Show looks great in 4k guys! and that Collings!! Love!
@frankmchale2877
@frankmchale2877 6 жыл бұрын
Watching this with a hangover and morning after gig ache...Ouch. I’ll be honest,with this one I stuck around for the Collings 😉❤️...4K looking / sounding good too.
@PhilHeesen
@PhilHeesen 6 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna' be all over that 1986 TPS shirt! ;)
@BrockBarr
@BrockBarr 6 жыл бұрын
I think the style is more mid-century retro modernism. 😁
@PhilHeesen
@PhilHeesen 6 жыл бұрын
55:30 ;)
@jameswilliamson7384
@jameswilliamson7384 6 жыл бұрын
Reliced T-Shirts! The body breathes and resonates better! :D
@edward4670
@edward4670 6 жыл бұрын
40:43 "The H9 has this incredible app that says device not found" hahahaha Dan is so funny... Great episode guys! I learned a lot. Do more episodes on midi
@Regularguyguitargear
@Regularguyguitargear 6 жыл бұрын
whoa ... the new toys are worth it gents, the show looks and sounds amazing on top of being top drawer entertainment!
@tonyadams6985
@tonyadams6985 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, so, so much! I jumped straight into midi from being a straight into the head guy, but I'm doing a huge repertoire nowadays, (Yes open for business in Qld Australia), and I'm forcing myself to do this, as I need a "lot" of flexibility sounds wise and being the singer as well, I kinda couldn't afford not to. Brilliant!
@benjaminmyatt5721
@benjaminmyatt5721 6 жыл бұрын
Blown away by this episode, wish I had enough gear and gigs to warrant exploring this terrain. I would be interested to see you guys talk about pedal mods- not the DIY content I see a lot of, but more a look at some common mods for stock pedals, some A/B comparisons, maybe some shout outs to available services (particularly here in the UK). Just a general look at how someone might want to add some professional spice to a fairly stock pedal board. Or otherwise, more exotic and expensive pedals are always a good watch too :)
@buzzwilson9346
@buzzwilson9346 6 жыл бұрын
Just occurred to me. You really need to get Adrian Belew on the show.
@rrnn9596
@rrnn9596 4 жыл бұрын
Buzz Wilson speaking of midi... he and Robert Fripp were some of the first to master MIDI for guitar
@Deeplycloseted435
@Deeplycloseted435 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video guys! You’re speaking my language today....MIDI. A really powerful tool for us synth geeks. Once you wrap your head around what it is and how it works, its great! I can record a performance while simultaneously automating numerous hardware synth as well as hardware FX parameters. It links and help several p How about a Pedal Show with synthesizers and pedals? We love them too. You can bring up re-amping, why impedance mismatch is a problem for us line level folks. Have MIDI inventor Dave Smith on, and a killer keyboard player on the show? Jack at Anderton’s isn’t bad at all.....and he seems like a cool guy. I use MIDI with the H9 Max all the time. Mostly its communication between DAW and synth, or sequencer and synth. Thanks.
@somebodyelseuk
@somebodyelseuk 2 жыл бұрын
Late to the party, but I had a chuckle when you asked about a synth show. I've been messing around putting my guitar through software synths over the last year or so, and generally, trying to learn to speak 'synth' with a MIDI controller/keyboard. I've been using MIDI for 30 years to control patch changes on my guitar 'rig', so I'm not new to MIDI, but I think Mick would have a stroke trying to get his head around how a synth works. I have to say, once you get your head around modular synths, you understand how effects work, anyway.
@darrenclewes9017
@darrenclewes9017 2 жыл бұрын
Just discovered this and finding it so mega useful…I’m just venturing into midi control via my effects switcher and find it so daunting.
@EothaG
@EothaG 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I've had a G2 for 5 years and am just now trying to hook up two Source Audio pedals (Ventris and nemesis) via MIDI. I just dont speak this language! I still can't get them to work together.
@edwardbosloper2445
@edwardbosloper2445 6 жыл бұрын
Yes! Digitech RP100 was my first Pedal
@waynewhiteside
@waynewhiteside 6 жыл бұрын
The new mics are an improvement for me since I have hearing difficulties. I can understand you much better. The video looks great too. Thanks for another great episode.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 6 жыл бұрын
That’s very useful feedback. Thank you Wayne!
@gladejustglade
@gladejustglade 3 жыл бұрын
Great primer. Thanks, mates!
@johnathan.jerusik
@johnathan.jerusik 6 жыл бұрын
That guitar is Gorgeous!!!
@bigupbebop4706
@bigupbebop4706 6 жыл бұрын
15 minutes in and i have to go lie down in a darkened room. This show is going to take a month to get through but I'm in for the long haul guys!!!!! When things get complicated I just listen to the ending of Hendrix's House Burning Down and things become simple again. Much respect to you both!!!!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 6 жыл бұрын
Weird thing is - Mick here - it’s not complicated at all. Let’s take a car as example. So, imagine you’re a Martian. You have no idea what a car is, and Dan tries to explain it to you. He starts by explaining how petrol is used in the internal combustion engine. Doesn’t say anything about wheels, seats or journeys. It’s the same with MIDI. Start with: all this does is turn stuff on and off and changes settings. Next question. What do I need to turn on and off, and what settings do I need to change? If answer is ‘not much’ then forget about MIDI and run for the hills! If the answer is ‘loads of stuff’ chances are you’re already halfway down the road to a solution!
@bigupbebop4706
@bigupbebop4706 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that Mick and I agree totally (my comment was light hearted I hoped). I've been using midi with computers, controllers and DAW's for several years. It has been a long journey with plenty of head scratching but I'm getting there its just a matter of translation.
@e.g.systems6146
@e.g.systems6146 6 жыл бұрын
25 years ago we used a Roland MC-50 to provide a click for the drummer, trigger samples, and do program change for the keyboard player (who used a "keytar") and my guitar effects patches and amp switching. It was a joy to stop woirrying about running back across the stage to hit a button when it was time for the guitar solo, but I still had feeedom to manually chnage things if i liked. We programmed it up in Cubase, so it was a doddle, then dumped it to the MC-50 for live use. Learn about MIDI boys & girls, it's really useful. Nice tutorial guys!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 6 жыл бұрын
Dan here. The MC50 was AWESOME!!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 6 жыл бұрын
Mick here. Keytar. Run for the hills! Somebody get me a Klon and Two-Roxk
@stevewilson3603
@stevewilson3603 5 жыл бұрын
that Collings is absolutely stunning!
@herbertbeckmann7391
@herbertbeckmann7391 6 жыл бұрын
You hit it…… agin… thanks. I really think about engaging more MIDI Features. Just changing Presets on the timline so far, but there is really more beyond.
@mikevendetti8889
@mikevendetti8889 3 жыл бұрын
Hey guys. Really enjoy your videos. I'm and old-school analog guy playing regularly in a live Worship setting. Our 4-song set list changes each week and I try to tailor my settings for each song to get as close as possible to the original recordings. My main pedals (all set up in-line) are the Strymon TimeLine and BigSky, and a some overdrives. Depending on the song, I'll use a few other pedals (Chorus, Trem, POG, EHX Pitchfork with Expression pedal). I plead total ignorance regarding midi and controllers. I just want to eliminate the "tap dance", Ideally, I would like some kind of controller so I could tap one time and bring up a pre-set for the Delay (with pre-programmed bpm) and the Rev for each song, then tap in other effects as needed (with the controller at the bottom of the pedalboard). Can this be accomplished? What can you recommend?
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike, check out TheGigRig.com Full disclosure, it’s Dan’s company, but nobody makes a better switcher. Check out the G3 video on TheGigRig KZbin channel. That should get you in the game!
@StuntcatTV
@StuntcatTV 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Andreorsel
@Andreorsel 6 жыл бұрын
MIDI is already standardized from about 1983!It is so simple and usefull once you start using it.I for instance use it on my pedalboard to change presets on the H9 and Source Audio programmable EQ with my Boss pedalswitcher. That Ramble fx Kismett overdrive looks very promising in that regard!
@colebowman2833
@colebowman2833 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Have no midi pedals or controller but I have a pedaltrain novo 24! I would love to be able to play live and record with this midi stuff if... I could just wrap my head around it. Lol. You have helped me some though as always. I'll have to save up. I already have my Strat, Tele, PRS singlecut going into the best thing ever! My new Victory v40 with matching 2×12 with the g 12 m 65 creambacks! It's amazing! Does everything I need in an amp and THE dynamics...! Wow. I used to play blackface amps but I love the tweed twin and i kinda got that sound but with modern flexibility! It really is it's own amp though which I Love! I wish the best for you guys and the folks at Victory! From across the pond both TPS and Victory have helped me, been very kind and gracious, and especially patient with me on Victory's part. I wish all of you the best of luck and happiness in life. You certainly deserve it. I wish I could fly to England and just meet as many guitar folks, as well as others, as possible! That would brighten me up from the embarrassing things happening in the U.S. where I live. I just wish I could get out of here for a bit. Anyhow, sorry about that, it just came out. Love you guys!
@jdavis.fw303
@jdavis.fw303 6 жыл бұрын
Dan please make one of your short short videos with the most complicated interactive midi setting!! Like sweeping the footswitch does 4 pedals or something equally ridiculous and amazing. I've never seen anyone have enough pedals and gumption to truly step into 21st Century Hendrix Astronaut territory with midi. I believe in you Dan!
@winstonsmith8236
@winstonsmith8236 6 жыл бұрын
Totally unrelated but I just scored the double foot switch Carpe Diem off Reverb!! I've NEVER seen one listed! I was hesitant for a second, but honestly Mick's cheeky, smirk of approval during the Carl Martin Headroom/different reverb demos convinced me to take a chance! I've already gotten the Headroom, and yes I'm trolling yall's boards!! The Cali76, then Headroom was the best 1-2 punch of pedals I've ever made...and now an original Carpe Diem....as we say here in Californialand...I'm super STOKED! as always thanx for all y'all's hard work!! A " That Pedal Show" t shirt and QuarterMaster are next on the list after payday!!!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome work Christopher! Glad these sounds are keeping you inspired! Troll away!
@jords5721
@jords5721 5 жыл бұрын
The kismet sounds amazing 😍
@rafael_guerra
@rafael_guerra 6 жыл бұрын
I am actually using a Behringer FCB1010 to control a "virtual" pedalboard at the Mainstage software, not best sounding but it is getting the job done. First time I got the FCB1010 I went crazy trying to understand that midi stuff in order to get it rolling.
@Oris37
@Oris37 6 жыл бұрын
Great video (as per usual) guys. I used to use a Yamaha MIDI floorboard to control my Yamaha DG100-212 combo - but had to sell it all, alas, as it was too flippin' heavy for my sore back..! The sounds were awesome - and although it was digital, there was no "modeling" in it whatsoever - just 8 basic tones that you could tweak and store in 128 patches..!!!! :-)
@joelpickett812
@joelpickett812 6 жыл бұрын
Mick’s hope of programming midi deflates at 16:35
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 6 жыл бұрын
There have literally never been any. I’m not kidding, last night I dreamt of a Custom Shop Strat.
@nigelpickett2471
@nigelpickett2471 6 жыл бұрын
I was dreaming of a '61 SG/Les Paul Special in cherry. Those P90's through that Kismet jeez I damn near had a 'moment'
@sliberty
@sliberty 6 жыл бұрын
Great MIDI tutorial intro. I am like Mick - not at all knowledgeable about MIDI, and now I at least know something about the questions to ask. The pedals in the video are pretty high end (H9, Timeline, etc.), and mine are not :-) but its still relevant. I have a Zoom MS-70CDR that can be controlled via MIDI (via a mini USB connection - although I don't yet know to what extent they support MIDI control). Thanks as always for making guitar audio learning fun and easy.
@kierenmoore3236
@kierenmoore3236 6 жыл бұрын
Dan, that MIDI Driver unit is "fully sick!!" ... Lol. Nice one, mate! X)
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 6 жыл бұрын
Ah, cheers mate
@MythosSoundStudio
@MythosSoundStudio 6 жыл бұрын
Ok - I know this was a MIDI show, but that Kismet sounded absolutely amazing! I hope you'll be comparing it against other OD pedals at some point (I know I know - you guys have done a ton already with OD pedals - but I can't help but ask after hearing the Kismet). Great show, once again!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Kevin, we can never get enough OD pedals! I was surprised how great it sounded too - Mick here. Sits in a really nice place. Wonder if he does a non MIDI one for those of us who don’t stray to the dark side.
@DavidDyte1969
@DavidDyte1969 6 жыл бұрын
Dan with the epic David Gilmour "look to the left as I hit this awesome note" pose at 50:28.
@grega1207
@grega1207 5 жыл бұрын
14:01 "eeeeEEEeeeeeee...." 19:41 "....there's no MIDI-thingy on it...." 23:08 "Friday the 13th,....bring it on...." Mick, you ran the gauntlet of MIDI my friend and you survived! Time for another glass of that wine :-)
@deathbykitty1954
@deathbykitty1954 6 жыл бұрын
Good to see our boys are also celebrating 4/20!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 6 жыл бұрын
Drugs are bad, mmmkay?
@deathbykitty1954
@deathbykitty1954 6 жыл бұрын
Sure sure. lol
@deathbykitty1954
@deathbykitty1954 6 жыл бұрын
LOL! I had the video speed set on 0.75! LOLOL
@davidjameschamberlain
@davidjameschamberlain 6 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy there is now a Hollowbody, P90, Casino, ES330 type guitar now. That Collings is beautiful
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 6 жыл бұрын
I just wish we were keeping it. Going to take me a while to save for this.
@davidjameschamberlain
@davidjameschamberlain 6 жыл бұрын
I know the feeling. Especially considering you picked up that fantastic ES335 a little while back
@DavidDyte1969
@DavidDyte1969 6 жыл бұрын
I get all of this just enough to be theoretically able to use it. But nothing I do with my guitar is remotely complex enough to warrant the investment. Still, it's wildly entertaining to empathize with Mick here. Keep at it, Mick! WE LOVE YOU!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 6 жыл бұрын
I’m with you David. I can’t do it. Gets in the way of my playing. Therefore, goes in the bin. Hope you’re well mate!
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 6 жыл бұрын
That Pedal Show Second that. I have limited free time. Either 2 hours a day playing, or 2 hours a day messing with shit that I may or may not have use for. PCs are handy, and my.TC Vintage delay uses CC20 & 21 for bypass and delay time respectively. That's about all the MIDI I could ever see myself needing. Also, I feel it "locks you in" if everything is synced to a MIDI clock. I like a nice "loose-but-tight" feel, and you won't get that with everyone synced to a MIDI clock.
@DavidDyte1969
@DavidDyte1969 6 жыл бұрын
Doing great thanks!
@kevinmaclean8935
@kevinmaclean8935 6 жыл бұрын
"Analogue Heart, Digital Brain", that's a lovely way to describe it.
@zekestaats7557
@zekestaats7557 6 жыл бұрын
Anyone else see Micks reaction to what dan says at 42:06? Priceless 😂
@yetanotherbassdude
@yetanotherbassdude 6 жыл бұрын
A fantastic video as always, chaps. I'm definitely more on the Mick side rather than the Dan side when it comes to tech like this, so a simple explanation like this has been an absolute godsend! Thank-you! As for the Patreon SNAFU, if you're not allowed to give stuff away, could you maybe offer a discount on certain items on the TPS store for Patreon patrons instead? You could even have certain items that you can only purchase if you're a patron too, perhaps priced a little less than it would otherwise be? That way, you're not giving us anything for free, but we get some cool stuff and we aren't quite as out of pocket as we otherwise would be. As always, love the channel. Keep it up! Just sort out that bass video please! Cheers!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 6 жыл бұрын
We like this. We’ll get some Patreon offers running. Thank you - it makes a big difference to us! (Ie, along with T shirt sales, it makes it possible).
@tomgeczy415
@tomgeczy415 6 жыл бұрын
4K looking fantastic!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 6 жыл бұрын
And it’s going to look even better when we move!
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