Pros Frustrated That Bassmaster And MLF Are Squashing Their 1st Amendment Rights…

[@jeffsims3585]

This is not a First Amendment issue. Most anglers would be fired working a normal job.

[@alanspellacy1582]

You have the right to say what you want but that doesn’t mean there won’t be consequences. There is no real freedom even in this country.

[@mikegoodman8136]

Never give up the right to speak on any subject, too many people have died for that right. Free country !

[@horbie5039]

You've got to study up on the first amendment. A private organization is allowed to set standards of certain speach relating to their company. Anyone that goes on social media and badmouth the company they work for, is subject to termination.

[@BlobRob787]

People get terminated all the time for saying something that goes against an organization. Even statements that are true.

[@motherlodebassin5369]

That is still denying free speech. It is not allowing to voice your opinion. Funny how detailed people are on this channel but for our president and politics nobody cares about the laws or rules

[@motherlodebassin5369]

It is still suppressing free speech. Funny how people don’t mind the political lies and gerrymandering but stand on a mountain so corporations can silence Americans

[@Keith-d8e]

You missed it on this one Randy. These guys are 1099 and you can’t slap the hand that feeds you.

[@paulenglish1741]

Holy shit your self-righteous dude!

[@Epps7363]

No one forces someone to sign the bass tournament contract. They signed, so follow it or quit.

[@BlobRob787]

Or do what I do and completely ignore MLF and Bassmaster.

[@jongolden7392]

I disagree. They are not customers. I may be wrong but don't they have a contract or something similar with that organization? Only a select number are chosen each year to fish in that organizations tournaments. When they accept the invite they accept the rules. And lastly, the first amendment protects speech from government interference.

[@marksanko6138]

That is not what the First Amendment says, educate yourself. It only applies to protections from the government. A private business can fire you for anything you say that they deem is bad for the business. You are free to say what you want without the government criminalizing it, but the private entity can still fire you.

[@Adam-em9rg]

Needs to make a new channel about ffs. I'm sick of hearing about it

[@Darryl_P_]

You couldn’t be more wrong. There’s countless times when freedom of speech can be restricted. The military, government organizations, NDA contracts, employer policies etc.

[@ZZ430T56]

They can criticize them all they want. They just won't be invited back to play.

[@bigbaldfish]

100% wrong…. Randy is way out of his knowledge-league on this one. The first amendment does not apply to private companies or organizations. After listening to Byron Velvick on Mercer… And this most recent crap… I don’t know why anyone would even listen to this guy anymore.

[@thock30]

They sign an agreement that they will not defame the organization. If they want to do that, don't sign.

[@rodmakermagazine7117]

"Nobody is allowed to quash your freedom of speech." Wrong. If you're a private entity you ARE allowed to quash whatever speech you want. Unless you are the Government, or acting in some way as funded arm of the Government, you aren't required to provide freedom of speech.

[@wciii3591]

This is one of the most misunderstood statues on the books. This is an issue that goes to the court rulings. Our rigged Supreme Court, holds contract law above legislative law! Corporate America only allows us to participate in the economy if we follow THEIR RULES. You either sign the contract, from fishing to credit cards, ore you don't play! This in itself is not the complete problem. You can always choose not to sign. However! The courts also consistently rule against anti-trust actions. Corporate America is concentrated into fewer and fewer hands. They control the markets, therefore you have to play in their market. There is no other place to go and the courts happily let them have this omnipotent control. If any one is interested there are two cases that show the real consequences of our rigged courts. Italian Colors vs AMEX and Ohio vs AMEX. We are all getting played, but most of us don't know it. You get what you vote for.

[@rodmakermagazine7117]

WRONG! Randy, you obviously have not read the 1st Amendment Free Speech Clause. Here it is - “Congress shall make no law... abridging freedom of speech”. The Government cannot abridge free speech. Private entities, however, are NOT bound by any requirement to allow free speech. You remove posts here on your KZbin channel, and you are allowed to do that. Same with Bass and MLF and any other private entity. The Freedom of Speech clause applies to the Government, ONLY.

[@smelltheglove2038]

@rodmakermagazine7117 it's nit randy censoring his comment section, it's AI bots on googles end.

[@jayplugged-in7709]

you may be technically legally correct but your thick head obviously missed the point. Its un-american period! and that was his point!

[@rodmakermagazine7117]

@@jayplugged-in7709 It's un-American to follow the US Constitution? Randy specifically said these organizations were trying to "...quash the First Amendment Rights of these fishermen." That simply is not true. No such right exists.

[@fishingva9946]

Randy wrong again on anything political / legislative. If you work for a company, you can’t just come in a say whatever you want. Freedom of speech, as beautiful as it is, does not mean freedom from conscience, especially from your employer.

[@randyblaukatintuitive]

I don’t think he watched the video because I addressed that. Like I said pros are customers not employees of the company.

[@herbsteiner1013]

Instead of "conscience," in your post reply, I believe the more correct word would be "consequences." We can say whatever we want, but it may not keep us from getting fired or punched in the mouth, or whatever bad result may occur.

[@smelltheglove2038]

I mean, 90% of my comments disappear from the comment section....

[@corvette_jake7225]

KZbin removes or hides comments from people that it has flagged as a "hazard".

[@paulenglish1741]

Me to!

[@rodmakermagazine7117]

Correct. The Free Speech Clause applies to the Government, ONLY. Private entities have the right to curtail whatever speech they do not like. THAT is what the 1st Amendment was about - preventing the GOVERNMENT from abridging speech.

[@smelltheglove2038]

Let me clarify and say I know it's Google doing this and not randy. Also, for the dude posting the copy pasta, there is also a clause that states once you act as publisher, by censoring comments, you no longer have 230 protections and are subject to litigation. Also, the people doing said censoring were directly tied to government operations.

[@BlobRob787]

Well that is OK then. Since when has there been free speech on KZbin?

[@BlobRob787]

Private companies can make you sign an agreement to limit speech. Or, if you don't agree, you can't join the organization. The US Constitution limits the GOVERNMENT from stopping or limiting speech. Not private organizations. That being said, the fact the MLF and Bassmaster make their employees and anglers sign or agree to these limits really shows how crappy these organizations have become. In fact this type of behavior occurs is just another reason why I ignore MLF and Bassmaster. They don't treat the anglers very well. These are organizations I would never join.

[@chadengels2625]

Dude, seriously? Have you worked for anyone a day in your life? None of us can expect to show up to work and say whatever we want and expect to keep our job. Thats not how freedom of speech works.

[@brian9670]

He literally hasn't. He is a spoiled manchild.

[@BobbyMartin-gu6wm]

More misinformation from ole Randy

[@DarrelThomasFishing]

Just because you have "freedom of speech" does not mean you are free from the consequences of your speech.

[@randyblaukatintuitive]

Then that does not equate to freedom of speech

[@DarrelThomasFishing]

@@randyblaukatintuitive why doesn't it? No one is stopping you from saying what you want. But if what you say is offensive or insulting to me, then be prepared for my reaction and my response. What you're talking about then is freedom from consequences. Thats not how this works...it's not how life works.

[@jackconley1179]

Criticism often leads to retribution by whoever is being criticized. Sad but true. If all the anglers would refuse to sign the agreement to be silent they would be better off in the long run. The anglers may need to start a new organization owne3d by themselves, or go a season or 2 fishing a different tour. Freedom is scary. Deal with it.

[@DougLane-dj3oh]

You have a degree in Criminal Justice if I recall. If any police officer speaks disparagingly about their agency are subject to discipline. Conditions of employment can regulate speech. You can voice your opinion but there may be consequences. You should watch congressional judiciary confirmation hearings sometime. More take a side rhetoric Randy.

[@bgriffin511]

Everyone has the right to free speech, no one can stop that, but there are consequences to your words and you must live with that. Believe enough in what you say to accept it.

[@clay7514]

What do you think Ray Scott would’ve thought of you bashing Bassmaster in the 90s?

[@randyblaukatintuitive]

I wouldn’t have bashed it because it was awesome then and it was ran by a competent people

[@clay7514]

@ I know but what I’m saying is do you think Ray would’ve cared about freedom of speech?

[@toddwatts82]

Though major fishing organizations are allow to suppress anglers comments that negatively affect the organization, I do not believe that factual information discussed by members of the organization should be suppressed. Transparency among the organization, its members, and the public that the sport entertains would only serve to push the sport of bass fishing forward.

[@horbie5039]

What happens when an NFL coach criticizes the refs? Please study up on the constitution before spouting off. It's too important to misrepresent this badly.

[@jakewilson7112]

corporate karens took over. Anglers can always form their own leagues to escape the censorship though.

[@brucesmithoutdoors]

Depending upon the business, nowadays, that is almost always part of your contract with your employer or company you work with. Sad, but that’s the way it is. Private entities don’t have to adhere to the constitution 1st amendment.

[@jefferytodd3265]

The anglers are not customers of the organization. It's the other way around. They don't pay the organizations - the entry fees are returned to the anglers, plus the money put in by the organization. The entity paying out the money is the customer.

[@rodmakermagazine7117]

THAT'S NOT WHAT IT SAYS! WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. The 1st Amendment's Free Speech Clause applies to the Government ONLY. Private entities such as BassMaster and MLF are NOT required to provide anyone with "free speech." More people need to actually read what the Free Speech Clause says. Randy, I generally agree with you but on this one you are very much wrong, uninformed.

[@colingordon5950]

You absolutely nailed it. Free speech is ONLY protected from government, NOT private entities or jobs.

[@J.L.ScottFishing]

Truth. This gets absurd after awhile. Right to work states can fire you for any reason at any time and may impose restrictions on employees as well. Has a pro ever filed in federal court a civil rights or free speech suit ? Doubtful.

[@bassman4201000]

You sign away your rights in the fine print when you sign up

[@charleshatcliff5588]

Well I guess everyone knows who fishermen call KAREN is . She's the one bitchin at fisherman for fishing around her dock. Sounds like she's winning with this bs. Enjoyed Randy.

[@waynecrowe9075]

You have the right to free speech public or private read the amendment!

[@geneelkins1707]

So what is your recourse when BASS or MLF tell you that you cannot fish their tourney’s any more, for simply speaking your mind. Keeping in mind that they have no obligation to accept your tourney registration. Is getting blacklisted worth it? When you agree to the terms and conditions of participation, you agree to 100% of the T’s and C’s.

[@mistertwister1816]

Another reason why I love the NPFL, Randy. The tournament director there can say anything he wants to membership without internal NPFL consequences. Expressing 1st amendment rights at a family restaurant should be celebrated. You should join & immerse yourself in that kind of freedom.

[@BillPope-tg8yr]

I’m certainly not a constitutional scholar but work for a Fortune 500 company. My employer makes it abundantly clear it’s your duty to project and carry that corporate image and not discredit them in any way at work and off the clock. Yes, discipline to including termination has been meted out for transgressors. So in regards to your employer, you don’t have freedom of speech.

[@astrophysicistguy]

This is why so many people rail against what Randy says on this channel. I don't know if it's from ignorance of the Constitution (a LOT of Americans don't understand the Constitution) or if he's just playing fast and loose with the objective facts to continue to support his narrative. If the later, he should run for Congress. But everyone here who posted is correct. Any organization in the US is allowed to set their own standards of conduct for belonging to their organization. No one is forcing anyone to join BASS or MLF. If you don't like the restrictions they are going to place on you when you join after reading the contract you are signing .... you did read the contract didn't you? ---- then you don't join, it's not complicated. But what you don't get to do is what Randy is doing .... I'll sign your contract so I can be a 'pro fisherman' and get all the perks that come with that but when i disagree with you then I get to violate the terms and conditions of the contract I signed with no consequences. Nope, the real world doesn't work that way ....

[@micuda623]

What if the tournament losses a sponsor because of some fisherman’s mouth? The tournaments are private, their rules apply…

[@philipmorrill8636]

Unless BassMaster and MLF are government entities, the 1A does not apply.

[@billwilliams1842]

Randy, Didn't you have a friend that had a similar experience only more severe after winning the All American along with a Bassmaster tournament?

[@SpookyRedz]

I will say this the company I worked for and other employees that I worked with you had to watch your mouth cause if u said anything bad about the company any employee that did , the bosses and foreman’s would put you in the Dog house , meaning u were going to get more and more work put on you , have hours cut and doing this job all my life I had kids to feed and bills to pay I could not afford to lose my job , Welcome to the Real World most of us live in and this is No way of me trying to be a smart mouth to you MrRandy I’m just saying my truth too ,along with a lot of other people from Fear of Getting let Go

[@brian9670]

"Mr Randy" lmaooooo

[@erichardin6056]

Randy, I enjoy hearing your opinions, but the 1st Amendment just doesn’t work that way.

[@pavichapin]

No clue as to what the 1st Amendment is about

[@jimb1283]

If they all do not like it, then they all should walk away. If they all refuse to show up to a few tournaments in a row until their concerns are dealt with, they will get back the power. No one is interested in these contests because of the owners/managers or sponsors. They are watching the talent. Grow a pair guys or be quiet forever. Move to another league, go on strike or better yet, all of you just quit and form your own league. You are already just fighting over the "crumbs" after the owners take their lion's share of the revenue. Only a few of you are even making money so what are you going to lose? Strike against Bass master and MLF. In less than a month you will have new management a better product and maybe a chance to make a real living again or you can just continue on and you will keep getting they same treatment.

[@donyarborough4114]

They are not customers, they are 1099 employees. So in this case I believe you are wrong again.

[@keithtimmons378]

They are contractors if you want to get technical about it. Bassmaster and MLF are way out of line in any case. It’s not an abridgment of anyone’s “first amendment rights” by any stretch but it’s just shitty behavior on the part of Bassmaster and MLF. Full disclosure. The term “shitty behavior” is purely subjective on my part.

[@markalan9922]

I thought a MLF was something else! 🤔

[@jaredb9909]

Oh yeah this is standard operating procedure in corporate America, create an environment where if you speak anything contrary to the company middle management you’re labeled not a team player and you’re treated poorly it’s not illegal but any stretch but I agree with you that it’s not aligned with the American ideals of our founding fathers and it will lead us all somewhere bad I mean ask yourself what an entire world full of yes men looks like it’s terrifying

[@toddg.2638]

Politics are in every business. In the corporate world, it's the same regardless if you think you're right or work hard to do the right thing.

[@DennisRegling]

The First Amendment only applies to government not preventing free speech. It does not pertain to businesses or other organizations.

[@paulenglish1741]

You silence me all the time!

[@randyblaukatintuitive]

I’ve made it clear over and over again that comments on this channel that contain misinformation, conspiracy theories, or smart asses will be deleted. So there’s no surprises to anybody.

[@spencersmith6754]

But YOU are deciding what’s misinformation and conspiracy on your platform and you get it wrong sometimes so why not leave the comments alone and let things play out. You sell merch so doesn’t that make us customers? Are you not being hypocritical? Viewers of this channel by watching your content and purchasing your merch are providing you a living and you are controlling the narrative to fit YOUR agenda

[@randyblaukatintuitive]

@ I don’t decide what is misinformation or conspiracy theories. Those are both easily debunked by legitimate new sources and other forms of information for people that choose to live outside an information bubble…Therefore that’s why I don’t allow people to use this platform to spread those things…..Despite the fact some people think incorrectly they’re true.

[@spencersmith6754]

@ you are deciding what news organizations are legitimate and other forms of information are legitimate ok thanks

[@randyblaukatintuitive]

@ news organizations that are legitimate have information that are backed up by other mutual peer reviewed sources and in the event they do have some incorrect information they issue retractions. On the other hand, some news organizations settle lawsuits for $800 million for lying to their viewers, so yes, it’s pretty easy to determine which news information is legitimate or not

[@Tommy-h4b]

Next thing some of the tournament organizations will try to take our second amendment rights that we can't carry on our boats then they would be in a position to do anything to us. What's next?

[@stanaddison956]

Well, you’ve missed it again. The best way to look at something is to always reverse the roles. Let’s say you have a couple of employees that work for you and they start talking about what a rotten guy you are. That’s free speech, correct? The question is would you keep them around or would you get rid of them? It’s very simple.

[@SpookyRedz]

If you ask me it is wrong that you can not voice ur opinion without getting Outed

[@shanewiley9190]

The first amendment does give us the freedom of speech but it's the government or government entities that cannot squash your freedom of speech this does not apply to a private entity. They can have their own policies on what you can and cannot say and they can do what they wish within the law. For example if your employer doesn't like you or the things you say they are more than welcome to write you up or.

[@rhondaeyman3316]

This coming from a guy that block people for criticizing your climate beliefs!!😂

[@randyblaukatintuitive]

They are not my beliefs. They are scientific fact, regardless, that people want to believe them or not. Therefore, if somebody tries to spread misinformation on this, they do get deleted.

[@rhondaeyman3316]

Free speech remember! Right or wrong it’s still protected right?? Just like hate speech! Besides climate change is 100% correct it’s just not man made! The earth is 42 billon yrs old and you think the climate only changes the time man is on the earth!😂

[@glynhornback9768]

Why are the censorship by fact checkers on fb and Instagram. I don't watch either BASS or FLW anymore both are one big infomercial for their sponsors and just keep looking down at their FFS. That's in my opinion is not fishing it's a video game. If one of them has a bad day on the water they blame the boat official. I heard that straight from Bobby Lanes mouth the day he said it sure didn't sound like he was joking when he said it. Ish Monroe getting in someone else's boat wanting to fight them. Like I said just my opinion but the powers that be want you to keep your mouth shut and if you don't they will shut it for you.

[@billpatterson6249]

5.2K views and counting.

[@Billys-outdoors]

It is like politics, it has gotten totally political .

[@MatthewMortonFishing]

Tournament anglers are not customers for one. Customers don’t get paid from any company. Anglers are contracted employees that get paid for the efforts. If they don’t like the rules that set for them to follow. Then they can other places. So please go look up the word “customer” In a dictionary. Then get back to me

[@Tommy-h4b]

Thank you very much for the video sir

[@terryjohnson666]

Randy, in terms of your basic premise, I think this video is possibly your most ill-informed, flawed video ever. For example, you conflate customers with anglers who have agreed in writing to certain covenants. The former are unencumbered by employee conduct and speech codes, yet even they do not enjoy Freedom of Speech. As a customer in the presence of others, scream and curse at an employee in the presence of an LEO and you'll quickly find out how limited that freedom is. I wish you would stick to fishing and stop trying to be the fishing world’s politics problem solver. Yeah it’s your channel and you can say what you want, TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU DONT VIOLATE THE KZbin RULES UNDER WHICH YOU HAVE VOLUNTARILY CHOSEN TO OPERATE. But if you want to stick around a few more years, I urge you to reconsider mistaking your unreseached opinions and conjecture as factual, let alone The One and Only Truth. There's a reason growth of this channel has plateaued.