Inugami Korone - The Weird Accent

[@prxnce6588]

If ppl dont really get Jp accents, english is a stressed language while Japanese is a pitched accent. Stressed languages stress sections of words for eg. ‘tomorrow’, to - MO - rrow. You’re normally supposed to stress the ‘Mo’ in tomorrow. Different accents work by stressing sections in words differently, either stronger in the case of stronger accents and opposite in the case of weaker ones. Japanese doesnt stress different sections of words but changes pitch depending on the section of the word u pronounce, in this clip, they say ノドボトケ or nodobotoke. U saw the pitch u speak the word with in the sub titles but the ‘normal’ Japanese accent is alittle different, alittle bit more flat than the accent Korone speaks with, Korone changes pitch on nearly every character she says whilst Shion speaks with the more universal Japanese accent. Tip for if u want to learn Japanese, learn to speak with a pitched accent rather than a stressed one, it should help pronunciation and annunciation and will definitely make u sound wayy more natural wen speaking. Thats often why u can notice wen a foreigner is speaking Japanese compared to an actual Japanese person, a lot of foreigners speak Japanese with a stressed accent as opposed to a pitched accent where instead of pitching sections of words they stress them and to me, it never sounds natural. Idk why i wrote a paragraph and if u read this than sorry Edit: if you read this than thanks Edit2: oh damn this got pinned?? Edit: damn editing unpins stuff

[@kuro9335]

Not the hero we deserved but the one we needed, thank you for this explanation!

[@QuesoCucuy]

didnt know that, thank you

[@primeEmu16]

No need to apologize it was imteresting to hear.

[@LecherousLizard]

First of all when I hear non-Japanese people (especially from English-primary countries) speaking Japanese they can't properly pronounce syllables before even talking about entire words or taking the accent into account. As for the pitch accent itself... honestly, I can't hear it for shit.

[@yuuki_konkon3229]

This is really helpful,thank you ^^

[@koreboredom4302]

Normal people: "corn beef" Korone: "𝓒𝓸𝓻𝓷 𝓑𝓮𝓮𝓯"

[@contrapasta2454]

CONE BEEFU

[@sheik124]

Korone's pronunciation actually sounds closer to how an English speaker would say it than Shion's tho.

[@chaoticgood8996]

Teach me the ways of the fancy font

[@haisai8289]

@@chaoticgood8996 🙃 ɐᴉlɐɹʇsn∀ ɯoɹɟ ɯᴉ ʞpI lol

[@jdcreep5394]

Maisrindfleisch

[@faze_inaba3254]

Korone’s accent is always great

[@yaze8850]

A friend shared uno video to me, fell in love with her jp accent immediately xD ROKETO LANCHA WOWOWOWOWOWOW

[@nomarukaz]

Always have been

[@yaze8850]

Caleb Butler indeed, sentence we can hear xD

[@Icetea-2000]

Does anybody know from which region in Japan this accent is from?

[@Zeis]

I've noticed before how melodic it sounds when Korone speaks and thought that's just what regular Japanese sounds like. I really, REALLY like it. Interesting to find out that it's her accent. I wonder where that accent comes from... probably the south, right?

[@Cyberdemon2006]

I love Korone's voice and accent. It'd be a shame if she were actively trying to "fix" it because people thought it sounded "weird"

[@zeriel9148]

Yeah, I felt the same when she way back when said she wanted to work on it. It sounds so much nicer than the standard pronunciation.

[@H36TRemasters]

@@zeriel9148 Unfortunately this is pretty standard in Japan. Especially when folks are trying to search for jobs. Glad she still has her accent though because it's absolutely adorable.

[@Red-ib3fb]

@@H36TRemasters "Unfortunately this is pretty standard in Japan." No it's not. It was a conversation, like a standard-speaking challenge game. It's just a HAHA moment that would be nothing to discuss without the clip. Don't create a Japanese standard in your own imagination. sigh

[@TheAdmiral14]

@@Red-ib3fb I dunno, Japan is pretty big on conformity. Looking into it a little just now was kind of depressing. People moving to the city from further areas feeling pressure to ditch their regional dialect in order to fit in and schools that have rules forbidding accents and dialects. Do you live in Japan and could shed some light on this?

[@Red-ib3fb]

@@TheAdmiral14 I dunno, Don't create a Japanese standard in your own imagination. I am Japanese. Living in Japan.

[@spaacec4412]

Japan is like Italy: Every single town has its own weird accent

[@cleanStr]

U are just lucky if its only accents.. we have freaking differences language in every city.. ofc accents too.. :v

[@Hwyadylaw]

More like Japan is like any place that's been inhabited for a long time. (And hasn't had a standard variety forced on people for a long time, or very large migration between areas)

[@kaikart123]

@@cleanStr Hello, fellow 700 languages countryman

[@Birdy890]

It's like that in England too, Bristol, London, Manchester, Kent, York, they all sound very different.

[@cleanStr]

@@kaikart123 :v greetings from wkwk land

[@NekogamiKun127]

Korone doesn't have a weird accent. She's just multi-lingual. She speaks Japanese and Pekora.

[@heavenlysteel8337]

*Pekolandish

[@Александр911-х6л]

pardun?

[@pww2e_]

One thing I love about Korone is her accent, so wouldn't really call it "weird."

[@gamrage]

It's charming.

[@XCerykX]

That is because we aren't Japanese and we aren't used to words literally change their meanings based in where you put the emphasis on a sound.

[@1yle.]

@@XCerykX not really

[@fadhlilkhaliq7173]

@@XCerykX that's more of Chinese, not japanese

[@-_-o7741]

@@1yle. Well, it is true for some words like the words for rain and candy. Rain is A👆🏻me, while candy is A👇🏻me. The only difference between their pronunciation is the inotation of the A sound. Sorry I couldn't find the arrow.

[@Cethavi]

I love Korone's accent even if it's weird for some people Even when singing, Korone still has the accent XD That makes the singing transcend to god dog level

[@KindlyAshe]

her accent while singing is amazing. I've had to go back to watch her sing the one piece opening because it's such a fun accent.

[@kilan4978]

Another big thing about her accent is putting to vowels together in a word. Like when she says Oayo (Ohayo) or Ko'one (Korone)

[@7QWERTY13]

That's less to do with her accent and more a speech impediment thing/unique mannerism of hers.

[@Miimu5210]

@@7QWERTY13 LOOL speech impediment not sure why that's so funny

[@thorn_lekoh]

It's called rhotacism, difficulty to pronounce the R sound. There's a clip of Korone where she says she has trouble with the ra ri ru re ro sounds, that's why when she says her name it outputs as Koone, she just skips the R.

[@spooderlover3512]

@@Miimu5210 Probably because you just imagined Korone with Mike Tyson's lisp

[@Nyukes]

0:40 Don't mind me just saving this one for me, I like her deep voice

[@definitelycultured7521]

Im questioning my sexual desire now

[@buraikusu]

she sounds so done with life there LMAO

[@LecherousLizard]

I feel like she was kind of embarrassed there.

[@kurono1822]

Thanks, I've replayed this part an unhealthy amount of times

[@Emil-wt4go]

maybe this is her real voice?

[@EinManU]

that "are you trolling me" at the end had the same energy as "now listen here you little sh-"

[@toganium4175]

I’m here to cut off my yubis for Korone.

[@SolidCold233]

WHY HAVEN'T YOU ALREADY?!

[@VoidsEclipse]

Yu knw is kida hard t tpe witout my figers.

[@Reikha1987]

Doesn't have to be YOUR yubis

[@followerofthekoronecult]

As a dvout fllower, Ive aredy cut mne of lng tims ago. Im nw tping wih my fet

[@VoidsEclipse]

@@followerofthekoronecult I tping wth m nose.

[@ChronicalV]

The moment you start learning pitch accent, its like your eyes are opened and suddenly all these vtubers start sounding way weirder because of wacky accents

[@saceurai6629]

And also, the accents stick to Japanese veeeery quickly. Dated a girl who grew up in Osaka, and in 2 weeks, j was speaking just like her, even tho I was in Hokkaido.

[@TeslaHaxz]

it just hit me that maybe her accent has a large role in why her english is so understandable. hearing shion speak english, the pronunciation felt all over the place, but all of Korones felt kinda close

[@do811]

I remember watching this video a long time ago and not being able to tell the difference between their pronunciations, but after a few years of hearing japanese and learning it, I can!

[@volbla]

1:48 It's like every syllable is a question.

[@FannerBanner]

0:05 why do I love this so much?

[@noraiou]

Korone thick Kansai-ben Accent is still the best to hear

[@mayuravirus6134]

Kansai-ben is already accent why did you addes another accent in there!?

[@ValkyrieTiara]

Are we sure it's kansai-ben? Where did you hear that?

[@KillerofGods]

@@mayuravirus6134 it's like the people who say please RSVP. So they basically say "please respond please."

[@4473021]

@@ValkyrieTiara nah, she had a video talking about where her accent is from. Not sure where the clip is but it was a mix of her local area's accent plus her grandparents' accent iirc

[@riskvideos]

Country doog?

[@GameFuMaster]

so basically... korone talks in pekora's laugh lol

[@blacksheepwall79]

The cutest part of her accent is the 'nyeh' instead of 'ne'

[@silver7215]

First thing in the video: “I translate, pls gib money” First sentence in translation: “I remeber” Nice

[@peepeepopo1212]

I'm studying Japanese and I'm having a hard time w accents and I just tried korones accent and I managed but it REALLY messed my brain up

[@toast34]

Are some japanese accents really just different intonations?

[@oo1234561000]

yes, its kinda like british people have different intonations, americans and southern compared to northern accents or chinese or every language in the world.

[@lucasvega4216]

Dialect and accent are not the same, in the video, they are talking about Korone's accent (intonation). Inui Toko for example straight up talk in kansai-ben. Watame is from Kansai too but she talks in kanto dialect with kansai accent, I think the same happens with Ange Katrina.

[@XCerykX]

Sort of, but also in Japanese words actually change their meaning depending on where you put the emphasis while speaking. Kami, for instance, means god, paper, and hair and if you say the word wrong you might make someone confused about why you needed your paper cut since they have to mentally be like "Wait, they must mean hair..." So I think that is really why they get on her about talking weird.

[@oo1234561000]

@@lucasvega4216 well i get what you mean, but i stand my point that every language have different accents at certain spots within the country no matter the country.

[@PICTVS]

Ceryk Paper (紙) and hair (髪) actually use the same accent I think. That is odaka with the pitch peaking on the final syllable: /kàmí/. Kami as in god (神) has the pitch peaking on te first syllable: /kámì/. I think the reason why pitch-accent is so confusing to English speakers is because the stress-accent that English has has a lower functional load than the accent in Japanese; meaning that the accent in Japanese is more important for differentiating between otherwise similar sounding words. Probably because Japanese has a lot less phonemic segments (vowels and consonants) than English and therefore a lot more homophones.

[@Okja1ONE]

that first nodobotoke sounding like nothing Ive ever heard coming out of korone's mouth

[@LecherousLizard]

That one was really out of the left field. It's like all of her usual happiness was drained by trying to pronounce the word correctly.

[@GuardianGizmo]

I love the way Korone speaks. I hope she never changes.

[@RambleOn07]

Imagine Miko speaking fluent dead Iowa level English :(

[@konstiyo]

@@RambleOn07 im studying japanese, and in comparison to the other vtubers mikos japanese is most times still incomprehensible to me.

[@RambleOn07]

@@konstiyo lol it sounds like that's a normal reaction. Miko is simply too elite

[@konstiyo]

@@RambleOn07 I can only dream of reaching such a elite fluency level.

[@magicstix0r]

Japanese teachers be like: "Japanese is a flat language." Me: *Furiously points at this video.*

[@certifiedpossum8655]

That's becaue the language us flat, but korone is not

[@nyannyan443]

@@certifiedpossum8655 Yea, god doggo is _boing boing._

[@yanguYT]

@Koholos yes, the teachers are speaking in wall/floor/pett-

[@bigbadseed7665]

Does anyone else actually prefer Korone's accent? To me it just sounds so much more...musical, you know?

[@ReyneAutumn]

Jesus Christ, i jumped off my seat when korone sneezed on the intro.

[@aobacx]

Korone was born to a father who spoke in the Mie dialect (Kansai) and a mother who spoke in the Miyagi dialect (Tohoku), and her speech was strongly influenced by her maternal grandmother. This may be the reason why there is a debate whether she speaks in the Tohoku or Kansai dialect. (This information was obtained from the Internet and may not be accurate.

[@haru-n4599]

Thank God this was reuploaded. Wasn't able to find this for months.

[@egorxd5783]

lol i found this on bilibili

[@haru-n4599]

@@egorxd5783 You're a champ man. Thank you for this 👏👏👏

[@AJarOfYams]

That’s a blast from the past

[@seventus]

Yes. It's even in potato quality!

[@inot8652]

the quality of this video is RiceGum's whole career...

[@inot8652]

@MASON !!!! i agree

[@flip.flap.]

Who is RiceGum?

[@cosplaynatics]

Is it tasty?

[@HudaefCares]

@@flip.flap. A failed pseudo-Asian snack product marketed to Westerners. Unfortunately even Westerners know that Rice and Gum don't mix.

[@T_Crushed]

I've been looking for this video for months! Thank you for reuploading.

[@einootspork]

Her intonation of "corned beef" is way closer to how you'd say it in English than Pekora's

[@smallsoul2374]

This is unironically a fascinating insight into how Japanese kind of works

[@mr.jovanny260]

144p for best experience

[@Mayhxmmmm]

Yes

[@elunicko123]

Thank you

[@TheMadSalviGaming]

The ones with unique accents are the ones I am usually drawn to

[@rankii_hats]

2:32 Korone:- Nanko are Ba i desuka Nyeh? Shion:- Nanko are ba ii deSU ka Ne Korone:- Ye bloody wot mate?

[@coloneldickens9031]

Thank you i’ve been looking for this clip for AGES. I remember watching it really early on like in march but i never found it again.

[@SuperLlama42]

Korone: ⭨ ⭧ ⭨ ⭧ ⭨ Pekora: ⭣ ⭡ ⭣ ⭡ ⭧ ⭩ ⭠ ⭧ ⭡ ⭢ B A Select Start

[@pite9]

⭡ ⭣ ⭠ ⭢ A Start

[@TDUShelby]

THIS MAKES SO MUCH SENSE, NOW! I don't speak anything even RESEMBLING fluent Japanese, but I've been subconsciously noticing little differences in how words can be spoken, from person to person. IT'S PITCH! Their accents are PITCHED! Thanks, random KZbin video!

[@yosutta4710]

Wait I just searched this and mindlessly click on this I didnt even know this video exist until 50 seconds ago

[@ForwardTokage]

I just clicked on it because corn beef got me intrigued

[@lastnamefirstname8655]

nice japanese accent lesson with korone and shion.

[@egorxd5783]

indeed

[@LargeFriesChocoShake]

I have a theory that Korone grew up in a traditional household in some small Japanese city. Excluding her obvious accent and shy nature, if you watch her 3D videos with Okayu and other members she moves very femininely and has a lot of stamina when it comes to dancing and workouts. I assume her accent is something that comes from her hometown/region and her femininity, introvertedness and endurance indicates she probably had a traditional upbringing, since that is basically textbook ideal Japanese housewive behavior. Furthermore, she stated she graduated from Tokyo University and she has also mentioned she takes boxing classes, so I also assume that she was probably relatively oppressed by her childhood and with hololive and the freedom of being a college student she got the opportunity she wanted to let loose.

[@xd3d034997]

She lives with her grandma.

[@MKP2W]

Her accent reminds me of a grand mother talking to her grandchildren

[@chainofenkidu9451]

I start imagining Korone if she speaks English she would have a country accent and that just makes me love her even more.

[@Phoenix0F8]

"Macudonaldo" is definitely going to be how I refer to that place from now on.

[@TheMoonCultist]

The thing with vowels at the end of consonant-ending syllables is because in Japanese there are barely (if any) words that don't end without a vowel, so that makes Japanese speakers add them at the end of any of those words to make them sound properly in their language

[@rich1051414]

Don't change Korone's sing songy way of talking.

[@Kreliho]

I freakin love you for this clip ♥️♥️♥️ My favorite Korone clip by far.

[@Warillusen]

Glad this was reuploaded somewhere, this was just a really good example of Korone's accent and that they actually discuss on it.

[@aldren2k898]

Egor out here making miracles

[@Jayzgame]

Me having a “corporate needs you to spot the difference” moment 😮

[@egorxd5783]

lol

[@ambiguoususername2966]

I was looking for this! I saw this clip translated before but it suddenly vanished. Thank you!

[@feles_cat]

her accent really makes her more unique

[@Cethavi]

I remember another video of this clip had been on KZbin a long time ago and now has been disappeared

[@despair_bear]

This was on an old channel named translate bilibili that was deleted. I think the original video was longer though

[@Sephirothmassume]

6 seconds and you made me smile. Bless you

[@internetperson573]

I can’t laugh my grandma is from Osaka so when she taught me Japanese she still spoke in the Kansai-ben so I learned it that way and I still speak like that XD

[@thelordoftheweebs9501]

The corn beef part got me. I love korone.

[@roxsys358]

Thanks Egor nice video.

[@shiro2654]

1:46 Corn➡️be➡️ef ↘️ that made me lol so hard

[@USSMariner]

Them: "Su da Ma sa ki" Me: "Phi li pu"

[@vashlexaeussteeele9736]

I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE LMAO

[@ChronicalV]

When I first saw this I didn't really know pitch accent but now that I do, good god I thought she'd just be placing accent on wrong mora but she's just adding multiple accents per word sometimes and it sounds really funny

[@Artie_2015]

Oh god I was right 😂 I never saw people discussing about this so I thought it's just me being dumb. But I like it, it's cute in its own way

[@KiraAsakura14]

I love how everyone just knows Korone has a different accent despite not being Japanese. "Ogayuuuu~" "Ho↗️Ra↗️yoooo↘️" "O↘️A↗️Yooo↘️"

[@Blitzcreeper239]

Saw this long ago, been looking for it but I think the old clip got taken down. Loved this conversation between these two.

[@lithelios9243]

Hope we get more of this.. Id like to learn Korone-san's accent when i learn Japanese. ❤️

[@marcellochristian6468]

U really got me for the opening

[@エッ-p8c]

Now I know why i got hooked with Korone. I didn't notice her accent at all but it definitely made her sound charming and charismatic.

[@vwyd]

so that's why she sounds so fun to listen to

[@aenigmatrices]

I once read something about a "sing-song" accent, and I couldn't imagine what it would sound like. Now, I think I have figured it out. It's got to be like that. The pitch shift.

[@orderByScore]

I'm currently learning Japanese and my brain is melting watching this clip

[@ojouvirus2544]

It ain't weird it's perfect just the way we like it

[@El_Andru]

I noticed another cute thing about Korone's accent. Notice how every word ending in "ne" she pronounces it like "ña" or more accurately like a "ñæ' (say the not compound "e" vowel with an "a" shaped mouth.) Try it for yourself. Say "Koroneh" Now say "Koroñæ" Its really endearing. Kinda when like she says "yosh" she has a startup going like "ñyosh".

[@whiterunguard9182]

Lol I didnt realize Korone was in the video until she spoke. Perfect tree disguise

[@timmatthias2228]

Korone's just the physical embodiment of uwu.

[@JB2X-Z]

My most favorite Kansai doggo

[@november6344]

KORONE WITH NO ACCENT FELT SO OUT OF PLACE

[@outsideboxer1448]

this gave me a gigantic brainblast. my understanding of japanese accents went from 5% to like 40% thanks to this video

[@maousadao9572]

Even as a japanese student. The high and low accents for Japanese is one thing that I am always interested in but will probably never understand. Or at least to the extent of proficiency. I remember the jokes involving Kaji Yuki where other seiyuus would deliberately change the way his name was accented from high to low

[@benjiusofficial]

That feeling when every mora is 尾高型

[@arayaa7723]

When koro-san said nodobotoke, i dont know but it's cute voice

[@novrinkov0053]

As you can see, here "corn-beef" is treated as Japanese katakana. Foreigners often misunderstand and think that Japanese people are trying to speak English. Foreigners sometimes call them "Engrish" and make fun of them. However, these are loan words used in Japanese and are legitimate Japanese words. For example, words of Western origin such as Haagen-Dazs, ice cream, and cooler are used as they are in Japanese katakana. It's like when Westerners say "karate" or "sushi" with a weird accent. Most of the time foreigners laugh at things they consider "Engrish" when Japanese people use Katakana, which is incorrect. Because they are just pronouncing katakana Japanese and are not trying to speak English. It's the same as making fun of Americans when they use the word "sushi" in conversation. Using katakana and trying to speak English are two completely different things. Japanese people recognize that corn beef and コーンビーフ are pronounced differently.

[@richie0099]

Korone’s accent it’s like learning a new type of Japanese I find it cuter

[@vinseg8152]

I clicked immediately

[@olekim9159]

meanwhile in Pekoland's accent : PE↗ KO↘ PE↗ KO↘ PE↗ KO↘PE↗ KO↘ PE↗ KO↘ PE↗ KO↘

[@lastsaneman19]

For people wondering: Japanese is a pitch accented language. Meaning emphasis is given through raising or lowering the pitch, not adding stress like english. Say PERmit (noun) or perMIT (verb). That's stress accenting. Japanese regions have different dialects just like USA and UK north and south, where different words are used and certain vowels sound different, but they ALSO differ in the pattern of rising and falling pitch for each word. English doesn't have pitch accenting, so for us its hard to hear a difference.

[@hopree2839]

0:42 man I love that "nani" mannn i love it so much

[@PICTVS]

Whenever someone says pitch accent isn’t important when learning Japanese, send them this video.

[@LecherousLizard]

I watched it like 10 times and I still can't tell the difference.

[@iGhost]

Mandarin, Taiwanese too haha

[@grgspunk]

Pitch accent is not massively critical if we're talking about the Japanese language. It's more of a pronounciation issue--If you're not doing the right pitch, you might have Japanese guys looking at you funny at times, but you'll still be perfectly comprehensible. The Chinese language, on the other hand? You make the wrong pitch on a word, and you'll be unintentionally saying something completely different.

[@LecherousLizard]

​@@grgspunk What was that Chinese poem that had only one word in it?

[@GongTheHawkeye]

Why? To confirm their suspicion that learning pitch accent is unimportant? It's a video of two vtubers having a fun time streaming together despite one having unique pitch accent, and have no misunderstanding whatsoever. And as you can see, everyone loves Korone's accent.

[@nodamnbrakes]

Don’t know if it’s her accent or a character affect but I love how korone puts a y-sound in her ne and says “nyeh “

[@mirandansa]

Japanese doesn't have moving up/down tones (one syllable changing in pitch, as in Chinese); it has high/low tones (one syllable having one pitch), and marking only the high is enough. So, "haSHI" is "bridge", whereas "HAshi" is "chopsticks". That's what Shion does. But Korone does something else. Something very strange but without sounding foreign.

[@Winterheart-fz8rd]

2:37 That actually felt like she was about to smack Shion lmao

[@Xaiff]

When Korone said "Corn Beef" she kinda sounded like a Chinese Or at least Southern Japanese.

[@SlyHikari03]

I love her accent.

[@xxxxgamerxxxxx1]

I love how Shion was teaching Korone how to properly say English words incorrectly!

[@raffimolero64]

might as well enter game combos with how they talk

[@iona401gaming6]

her accent sometimes make her slow singing the lyrics that she can't catch up but that is gooodd

[@SlyHikari03]

When her accent goes “↘️↗️↘️↗️” I felt that

[@ogun4921]

Is it just me, or does Korone sometimes end certain words with a nya-ish sound?

[@amirmanibmanampan159]

As a non japanese speaking person, i can confidentially say that they sound exactly the same and I cannot tell the difference nor can I hear any sort of accent.

[@OldManGaribubee]

The way she says corn beef is the funniest shit