Avenging Varus - The Fate of Arminius and Germanicus (17 AD)

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[@TheCreatorII]

Hey, great video. However, I noticed a small, yet entertaining, spelling mistake at 10:54 on the benefits of the triumph.

[@kajolet]

huge pubic morale boost ^^ 10:49

[@starbreeze7249]

Well, I'm glad Germanicus got to see all the historic sites that people of history nerd over to this day before he died, and how beloved he was by everyone

[@TannerSwizel]

If Germanicus had succeeded the throne and died less suspiciously, I think Caligula would have been a much more sane ruler

[@alejandrosakai1744]

But Germanicus' son became a insane Emperor!

[@wisdomleader85]

It's hard to say.

[@TannerSwizel]

@@wisdomleader85 that it is!

[@TannerSwizel]

@@ii121 Philo and Seneca are the only contemporaries of Caligula I know of that have surviving literature, both paint him in a dim light, although Seneca was definitely biased against him. The historians that wrote about him in the decades after his passing relied on texts from other contemporaries that no longer have surviving work. Cassius Dio and Suetonius both paint Caligula in a dim light. There isn't any surviving evidence whether that be first hand, secondary, or tertiary evidence I can think of that backs your claim. If you have sources that debunk Caligula's commonly agreed upon mental state I would love to know them.

[@michaeldunne338]

Wouldn't one of the older son's have likely become Emperor instead, in such a counterfactual? Not sure they would divide the Empire like Constantine's sons did, but maybe they would have had some co-Emperor system? All food for counterfactual thought ...

[@male272]

10:55 'Huge PUBIC morale boost'...best unintentional laugh of the day for me...

[@AyCe]

I mean, it's basically just all about that, no?

[@dontmindme5189]

I noticed this as well. Lol still a great documentary but damn.

[@ezekielbrockmann114]

I hear 'public' quite clearly.

[@cristhianramirez6939]

I am sure Germanicus had access to pubics too

[@ericbarry9105]

@@ezekielbrockmann114 Read the fine print

[@Turgon_]

It is quite sad to see that both Germanicus and Arminius, rivals and heroes to their respective peoples, died before the age of 40 far from the battlefield.

[@marseldagistani1989]

Blame that Viper Livia

[@franciscorodriguez2457]

I consider my self a roman citizen born and raised in Spain hispania it took the legions 200 years to submit hispania and yes they did hispania gave 3 emperors to the empire I am proud to be a Roman long live rome

[@rimshot2270]

@@franciscorodriguez2457 They were probably of Italian descent.

[@TimL1980]

well... in the case of Germanicus he didn't get close enough to die on the battlefield... roman strategy always was to plunder rape and threaten women and children. Their "bravery was just enough to advance on open fields if they were able to deploy their artillery.... a bit like someone else 2000years later in a forest near Aachen where boys and old men commanded a killing ratio of 20:1 until they were showered in artillery fire the cowards brought forward.

[@MrBubblecake]

@@franciscorodriguez2457Bro the Roman’s were from Italy not from Spain. Stop trynna claim our culture lol

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[@hobyking6655]

What a crazy well-made series Thank you so much for this series

[@awesomehpt8938]

Germanicus the emperor that never was 😭. Good night sweet Prince.

[@NodDisciple1]

And started the path of Calligula's madness. Because of the death of his daddy and him being forced to be raised by the demented murderer of his father.

[@tiberiuscave4617]

@@NodDisciple1 Tiberius was certainly not demented, nor, by all the accounts, he murdered Germanicus.

[@jonbaxter2254]

He was the Latin Alexander

[@Crafty_Spirit]

Sweet prince? I hope you are being sarcastic 🤣

[@marseldagistani1989]

@@tiberiuscave4617 it could have been Livia Drusilla who ordered the assassination of Germanicus

[@legionarybooks13]

I've so much enjoyed this series, and I thank you for all the time and effort put into this project! The first book I ever wrote, "Soldier of Rome: The Legionary", covers the campaigns of Germanicus and the avenging of Varus. However, my book ends with the Triumph in Rome. I knew very little about Germanicus' exploits in the east over the next two years, so this was doubly fascinating for me. Also, I never believed the stories that Tiberius had a hand in Germanicus' demise. That made absolutely no sense. Germanicus was extremely competent, had immense charisma, and he was loyal. In short, he made Tiberius look good, and the Emperor had already named him his heir, giving precedence over his own son, Drusus. And to think that Germanicus was father of Gaius Caligula, regarded as one of the worst Emperors in Roman history. Plus, he was the elder brother of Emperor Claudius, who is revered as one of the best of the Julio-Claudian Dynasty.

[@user-xo9pz7fd3j]

For some inexplicable reason, this epic part of Roman history is little known even today, 2024, in the Italian education system. I am from Rome and I must admit that I have learned more about Rome on KZbin from wonderful channels like this than in 14 years of Italian public school! We should be ashamed of ourselves 😡 Congratulations, continue with these splendid videos! 👏👏👏

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Which do you think was a more exciting movie "The Eagle" or "The Lost Legion"?

[@youvebeengreeked]

Hoc Est Bellum does Mycale, Invicta does Arminius and Germanicus, Eastern Roman History does Carausius, and HistoryMarche does Majorian. All in one day. ... Beautiful. *:')*

[@freedombro]

Ita a beautiful thing, what a time to be alive and learning

[@HistoryOfRevolutions]

"The most worthless of mankind are not afraid to condemn in others the same disorders which they allow in themselves; and can readily discover some nice difference in age, character, or station, to justify the partial distinction" - Edward Gibbon

[@LegioXXI]

Germanicus dying after just 2 years of Arminiu's death really reminds me of Scipio Africanus, who also died not long after Hannibal.

[@Arbiter099]

Bit similar also to Patton dying not long after WW2

[@Xfire209]

You got the order of deaths wrong. Germanicus died 2 years before Arminius died

[@Mulambdaline1]

You’re a great sorry teller, I love the Avenging Varus series!

[@hitrapperandartistdababy]

I wonder how Germanicus could have been as an emperor. By the standards of the time he seemed like a pretty cool person to be around. I would guess it says quite alot that he could meet with the Parthian King, and distribute control in the east with very little issue.

[@tylerdurden3722]

Germanicus was groomed meticulously by Tiberius to become Emperor as soon as possible. Tiberius never wanted to be Emperor and went to great lengths to avoid it. But, while Augustus was alive, all the other alternative relatives were assassinated. So Tiberius groomed more alternatives, declared himself a private citizen and retired from politics. But these individuals were assassinated as well and Augustus forced Tiberius to divorce the love of his life and become his successor. Then Tiberius groomed new replacements, so he could retire early. Germanicus was one of these attempts. It's the reason why Germanicus achieved everything at such a young age. Tiberius fast tracked his grooming. In those early days of the empire, the new "Emperor" still had to run for offices and take part in elections...and had to build up offices one by one to accumulate power. And he had to do this before his ascension to get a headstart. It took Augustus and Tiberius a lifetime to accumulate these political offices. Hence why grooming of a viable successor was required. When Germanicus died, Tiberius became even more depressed and dispised Roman politics even more and isolated himself on the island of Capri. More of his potential groomlings were assassinated. By this time, Tiberius was in a dark place, and managed to successfully groom his last viable remaining relative as an act of final revenge...in the form of Caligula.

[@etorawa9367]

Emperor Tiberius: "Piso bring me back my Germanicus!"

[@Solon1581]

11:13 That particular detail about the triumph is only supported by one primary source, the triumph of Marcus Aurelius, so it's very possible that it was an addition by him(Because let's face it, it's a very Marcus Aurelius thing to do).

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[@av7610]

What an amazing series! Thank you for all of your time and effort dedicated to putting this together. I’m looking forward to your next series.

[@OmegaLittleBob]

Germanicus’ early death definitely feels like one of those crossroads of history moments, where things could have gone very differently if he had become Emperor

[@markmuller7962]

Reminiscent of Alexander the Great isn't it

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[@ThatGuyOnFireKnownAsAndrew]

Hilarious how dogshit Rome became after shit boy Germanicus bit the dust 😂😂😂😂

[@Swampchicken]

Honest question: if the Romans kept getting their fleets destroyed by storms, why did they keep sailing?

[@theholyinquisition389]

Because supplying an army as large as that of Germanicus purely via overland routes that deep into Germania was very difficult if not outright impossible.

[@sjonnieplayfull5859]

Because they could not march across the seabed

[@mar71n32n0v1lLL0]

Because they had curb-stomped any and all troglodites who dared challenge them, some multiple times, like Carthage. Therefore, if any one of their former, current or potential future enemies realized allmighty Rome was too scared to sail, their monopoly would've been greatly reduced, and they could actually face serious economical and military threats...

[@alejandrosakai1744]

Well if you asking of what happened to Thusnelda's son, He was send to an Gladiatorial Ludus and he died on an Gladiatorial fight

[@denniseggert211]

That is not backed up, the fate of them is unkown. Tacitus only wrote that Thumelicus grew up in Ravenna and that he would report on their fate "at a proper time". However if he ever finished a writing on them is uncertain, at least it was not found.

[@tiberiuscave4617]

@@denniseggert211 The fate of her son would have probably been related in the lost portion of the Annales.

[@andremesot5144]

TY very much ! What a wonderful work ! TY so much !

[@elexirghutz9540]

10:42 Huge "PUBIC" morale boost, I think is a typo.

[@marcleblanc5020]

I noticed the same

[@joshuaiam485]

Naah..it's so they don't be revolting all the time..makes sense

[@Taistelukalkkuna]

Why yes indeed. Legionaires would surely got lots of booty in celebrations.

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Can you make a series about the Claudian Invasion of Britain at some point? There seems to be almost no content about it to be found on this platform...

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This would be a great subject or the Marcomanni wars, or more Marius and Sulla!

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[@TacitusSempronius]

To be honest, I do think that Germanicus' abilities as a general were vastly overrated by ancient historians. He was a competent general, but rather unimaginative and never able to achieve decisive victories and the battles he won were at arguably too high of a cost for them to be sustainable. His campaign was succesful in so far that the Romans could ultimately accept the results of the Varus disaster (the end of Roman Rule East of the Rhine) while saving face, but he was unable to reverse the result, something a truly great general like Caesar probably could have done.

[@tiberiuscave4617]

Germanicus was a good general indeed (not on par with earlier Augustan generals like Tiberius, Agrippa or Drusus the Elder though), and Tacitus' account is relatively balanced on that - he certainly over praises Germanicus, but he also does not hide his shortcomings. Suetonius is much more unbalanced, as well as Cassius Dio. However, it's true modern people have an overly exagerrated opinion of his qualities - Germanicus was far from the perfect human being many people envision.

[@etiennesharp]

Tiberius was a hugely able general and he seems to have judged Germanicus to be pretty good.

[@TheMrgoodmanners]

nah he lost too many soldiers,

[@sebastienraymond9534]

Not true . Germanicus was a great general . Just look the tactics he used at the battle of idistaviso. Never saw anything like that . Why Rome didn t conquer germania . The resason is simple. Germania was too poor. When you are reading the gallic wars we see a lot of sieges and caesar took a lot of oppidum. But in germania you will never heard anything like that . They were so poor they didn't even live in towns.

[@Grenaden86]

I find myself wondering why he didn't take the offensive at all.

[@sulien6835]

10:48 "Pubic Moral Boost" Huh...not what I thought their priorities would be...

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[@wildcatoutdoors]

Can you imagine the terror of his young son being paraded through the streets of your enemies while they cheered...no telling the horrors visited upon his mother

[@jc4388]

Sounds like my childhood.

[@MissyLaMotte]

Thank you for this series. I am currently writing a novel about Thusnelda, so I am doing a lot of research, and these brief but very thorough videos were both entertaining and helpful. Actually, I just visited Kalkriese two days ago, the place where the battle of the Teutoburg Forest most likely happened and I am currently staying at the Weser river, where the remains of a Roman summer camp have been found, which has been dated to have belonged either to Varus' legions or to those of Germanicus (probably on the way to the battle of Idistaviso, which must have happened somewhere a bit north of here.

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[@8393Robertrex]

10:41 Ik editing is time consuming and typos are hard to catch But that was on purpose lmao

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Nice concluding clip to the series on avenging Varus.

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Caligula’s dad. Holy shit

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only one word, beautiful!!! thanks for all the series of germanicus and arminius, germanicus was the improve version of julius caesar a realshame the fate that touched him but like always, great men don't last long

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The Glory of Rome! Love educational content like this. High regard for all the effort put into creating this presentation.

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Thank you for detailing Germanicus' life after Tuetoburg. It seems like all of the videos I've watched gloss over it, as they rush to get to the story of Caligula.

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True, and the educational History books as well

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Your Avenging Varus series has been excellent, really one of the best so far, together with History Marche's Hannibal. Hats off to you

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Thank you, amazing work as always!

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I really like Tacitus. He saw that by recognizing the courage and tenacity of your enemy, people realize the true magnitude of your victory.

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This was an amazing series. Thank you! Could you please make a video about Caligula, comparing different sources of his reign, and the how modern historians view them as true or exaggerated?

[@OliverClark31770]

Great end to a great series! Really enjoyed the journey and the teaser about Caligula at the end. Plus, of course, the typographic Easter eggs: "pubic morale" is the best!

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Top tier video as always!

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Where are my eagles, Varus!? One of my favourite lines of "I, Claudius".

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«Vare, Vare, redde mihi legiones meas!» Octavian Augustus

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I really enjoyed this video. It is indeed not something that I knew much about. Thanks a lot!

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Excellent! Thankyou.

[@seansweeney2875]

An Epic film should be made about this magnificent roman general, should without doubt became emperor...the grandson of mark Antony. The great nephew of octavian..if he had become emperor roman history would be different ..still he left his mark on history, I think he was amazing and awesome..

[@handsomegeorgianbankrobber3779]

10:41 Kind of unfortunate spelling mistake there lol

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The Avenging Varus Series has been highly amazing overall

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I’ve been looking forward to this

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[@awesomemarine4884]

10:50 Huge 'Pubic' Response... Great video btw. Loved this series

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[@DesertAres]

Thanks for the detailed itinerary of Germanicus' tour of the eastern provinces and beyond. His death was certainly a loss to the Roman military and political establishment. If I remember Piso, ended up committing suicide because of all the accusations regarding his part in the death of Germanicus. Not sure which Pyrrhus you are referring to in reporting that Tiberius forbade his poisoning. The famous incident was between Fabricus and King Pyrrhus in the 3rd century BC. Fabricus went to Pyrrhus' camp to see about getting Roman prisoners released. While there, the king's physician intimated he would poison Pyrrhus if Fabricus wanted. Fabricus told Pyrrhus about the potential poisoning. Febricus is also famous for having dinner with Pyrrhus tent and Pyrrhus raising a sheet with an elephant behind it. Fabricus dryly retorted, "you don't impress me and neither does THAT'. Another tale is told that Pyrrhus offered him a high position in his army. Fabricus refused and retorted, 'your soldiers would soon want me as their king'. Great comeback lines, makes you wonder if they weren't added later by the 'historians' of the day,

[@albuso1974]

Around min 10:50 "huge PUBIC morale boost" :-)

[@joshuaiam485]

To prevent revolts..u get?

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Highlarious!

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Great series, I'd love to see one dedicated to the conflict between Vlad Tepes and Mehmet II!

[@5chr4pn3ll]

Pre-Caesar Pompey would be interesting. Everything before Caesar seems to be forgotten by most youtubers

[@APinchOfHistory]

There is nothing like watching Germanicus Fate on Haloween! Excellent work as always, thanks for your hard work!

[@Deamon93IT]

This story shows the avenging nature of Rome and provides an interesting what-if scenario with Germanicus succeeding Tiberius. He may have been a good Emperor and may have tempered his son, although we'll never know

[@christopherthrawn1333]

Excellent work Gentlemen

[@harriehausenman8623]

Pubic morale boosting the engagement. Nice! :-)