The Jugurthine War - E01 - Rome's Most Corrupt War (112 BC) DOCUMENTARY

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We continue our series on the Forgotten Wars of Roman history. In this episode we launch ourselves into the Jugurthine War which would prove to be Rome's most corrupt war.
The video begins with a quick recap on Numidian history and its entanglement with Rome. This would occur over the course of the Punic Wars with Carthage where Numidian Cavalry clashed repeatedly with the legions. Famously the Numidians would seal the doom of the Roman legions at the Battle of Cannae but would ultimately turn on Carthage at the Battle of Zama. In the aftermath of the Second Punic War, King Massinissa would lead a united Kingdom of Numidia as a staunch ally of Rome. His son would carry on this tradition. However when the question of who was to suceed him was posed, the answer would precipitate an unravelling of the entire status quo. Here Jugurtha would rise to claim the throne and challenge Rome itself.
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Sources:
Sallust, The Jugurthine War, XII
Matyszak, The Enemies of Rome
Marc Hyden, Gaius Marius
Credits:
Research = Eric Ten Wolde
Script = Eric Ten Wolde
Narration = Invicta
Artwork = Penta Limited
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#rome

[@InvictaHistory]

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[@javiersaugar376]

First, thank you for covering this conflict, for years I've been waiting for either You, or Kings and Generals to cover the Jugerthine War, it's phenomenally corrupt. Second, I know it may not seem like a Forgotten War, but will you cover Sulla's Roman Civil War? Often when I talk Roman civil war with others. They always default to the Caesar v. Pompey war. But I think Sulla's deserves some recognition.

[@johnathanadams6378]

I’d love to see a deep dive into the Cimbrian War. It’s almost never covered or just mentioned in passing. There were some insane battles and massive losses on par or possibly even exceeding Cannae.

[@petermills3814]

I've been following your channel & few others since 2016, and I just love all that there is about Roman and other history related to them on this channel here, along with the others from Kings and Generals... love your works! ❤ We need more vids about Rome's trade with the tribes of Northern Europe & others during its republic & empire + trade with Persia = Parthia & the Sassanids in goings on back then, Arabia and the rest of Northern Eurasia between the Nomadic tribes... that would be great ideas for up next in the near future for Summer projects to make. And even one about, did Rome's trade with India actually destroy the empire's economy? Because Rome's desires for silks, spices and other previous goods were traded mostly with their own gold & silver coinage and bullion to India, that eventfully dried up over time in just a few centuries since the days of the republic = till the crisis of the 3rd century with the inflations & debasing of their coins... due to shortages, and the mines running dry. That situation was never fixed till the Eastern Roman Empire's time under Justinian and after, due to diplomacy in exchange deals between them... and monks stealing silk worms from China in making their own industry of it all back home in the empire. Pompey the great's backstory in history from beginning to end = with his campaigns against the Crete pirates + his involvement in Spartacus's late rebellion, the last remains of the Seleucids in the east and the Jewish state of the time. As well as Sulla, Crassus and more on Marius too. Maybe try this for future vids please Invicta? 👌😎😉 Thanks again for all your hard work over these many years ongoing! 👍✔ Keep up the great work.

[@beepboop204]

🙂🙂🙂

[@hadtrio6629]

Why are north Africans Portrayed as dark skinned while the amazigh of the north Maghreb are white?

[@lucasl3m0s]

Jugurtha was that kind of Total War player that when there was a lack of population to recruit armies, he bribed the enemies full stacks 😂.

[@isaack2084]

He stayed in raid mode. 😂

[@lucasl3m0s]

@@isaack2084 He farm diplomats in Rome 1 :⁠0

[@ManiusCuriusDenatus]

"Our sword arms will ache from overuse!!"

[@lucasgueiros7531]

If only total war was this refined

[@theawesomeman9821]

good analogy

[@stuka80]

170 years previously, when the famous Greek commander Pyrrhus, had attempted to even just gift a chest of gold to the Roman senator Fabricius, it ended in a firm rejection. Or when Pyrrhus's physician informed the Romans that he would poison Pyrrhus for them. Not only were the Romans disgusted by the proposition, but they sent a letter to Pyrrhus informing him of the plot in paraphrased language; "Pyrrhus you are a fool, you make war upon honorable men, and trust yourself to villians. Nor do we inform you of this plot on your life for any regard of you, but in order that your ruin will not bring infamy on ourselves nor would men be able to say that we won the war by treachery, because we could not do so through valor" How far the Roman character had fallen by Jugurtha's time, its no wonder the republic collapsed not long after.

[@isaack2084]

I mean Roman character wasn’t that high to begin with. Lol. The Roman state mythologically started their first war by kidknapping and r@ping the women of their neighboring tribe, the Sabines.

[@geordiejones5618]

The wars against Carthage killed off a lot of the old nobility, and the ambitious commanders who fought in Greece and Spain saw conquest as a means to not only level up their own prestige, but to give their family names more value. Rinse and repeat for decades and decades until all thats left is Augustus and an elevated Equite class.

[@Nick-hi9gx]

I mean, there is VERY strong evidence that Senators were accepting bribes from the Mamertines and their allies on Sicily to get them involved in the First Punic War. Corruption was always rampant in Rome. The first tax collectors in Sicily stole all kinds of wealth from the island, and this continued as they took Greece and Anatolia as well, more than a century of taking Greek statues and mosaics and all sorts of things. A few people were convicted of that corruption, but only a few.

[@Sylaces]

​@@isaack2084 the cucking of the sabines was based af

[@stuka80]

@@isaack2084 ah, so disregard the uprightness and civic virtues displayed by Romans of the early and mid Republic because of what legend says their ancestors did? Like the rape of the Sabine women and the murder of Remus?

[@WR288]

Jugurtha spammed 'add_money 40000' into console command and just paid the roman stacks to disband.

[@declanjones8888]

1,000,000,000 Denar I demand from thee!

[@John-pk9rw]

He even transformed into a Congoid black guy to intimidate them

[@jonbaxter2254]

Lol, I'm dong a campaign right now doing just that. It's nice to be king.

[@Juanhop]

Unfortunately for him, he had no idea about process_cq or add_population, L M A O.

[@vincentblackshadow1581]

Outside a small town in Tunisia near the Algerian border is a plateau. The view from the top is amazing as it is the highest point anywhere in sight. There is only one access to the top of the plateau. That plateau is known as the "Plateau de Jugurtha."

[@naceraitboudjema4689]

If you want i'll tell u

[@hamzahammami22]

I don't see the reason of using the french "de", you can either call it in its local name or in English since that's the language used in the video

[@vincentblackshadow1581]

@@hamzahammami22 I hiked to the top with a local guy who was on his way back from buying bread in the town at the base of the plateau. Most people speak French in Tunisia. Might be why the signs are in French. I caught a ride back down with some friendly soldiers in a military transport.

[@hamzahammami22]

@Vincent Blackshadow signs are both in french and arabic, most people know some french here and there and but are in no way fluent at it, nor are they able to have long conversation in the language, and even if they speak it that doesn't mean it their native or preferable language to use, and the french signs are mostly for french tourists

[@Yh-kg8fr]

@@hamzahammami22 🤡

[@nidhal4]

Hey buddy, Numidians were Berbers, so they were not black! Not because we are africans and we live in Africa means that we are all blacks! There are many of us who are brown or white. Not to say that there's a problem with being black, absolutely not, but stop taking over other peoples culture and making it black culture, like we and our ancestors never existed!! This is very disrespectful.

[@lcplapiata5501]

You're not white, back then Africa was colonised by the phonicians you were Assyrian looking mixed that with the Numibians who were black an the Libyans again who Assyrian looking.

[@rodneydelboy6910]

We wuz numidienz bruh

[@chillin5703]

Hello Nidhal, I hope you realize that there are, infact, many dark skinned berbers and that depicting them all as darker skinned is about as accurate as depicting them all as pale skinned - yet I'm sure you'd only complain about one of the two.

[@Gonboo]

@@lcplapiata5501 No, Numidians are the ancestors to the modern day Berbers, so they were Mediterranean in skin tone, not sub-Saharan black.

[@lcplapiata5501]

@@Gonboo no they weren't lol Sallust described them as Maurus, This name means “moor, dark-skinned”. It is a name of ethnic origin, derived from the Latin “Maurus”, meaning "belonging to the people of the Moors", who lived in the region of Africa called “Mauretania”, which extended from Algeria and came to Morocco and northern Mauritania. Probably the Romans gave them this name because of the dark color of the skin, in fact, amaurós (ἀμαυρός) in Greek means "moor, dark", also the meaning of amáurosi (αμαύρωση), browning, burnishing (burned or tanned

[@jonathanyes112]

I did a presentation on to my school’s classics department the other day about another forgotten man, Quintus Sertorius. Part of his life is the forgotten Social War, and perhaps you could say the Cimbrian War is also largely not acknowledged

[@InvictaHistory]

Its been suggested several times and is definitely on our list!

[@NobleKorhedron]

Don't you mean Cimbrian War, rather than Cumbrian, @Jonathan Yes...? 🤔

[@BOSIE321]

@@InvictaHistory Have you done, or are you thinking of doing, Virathus, the Lusitani rebel who defeated numerous Roman Legions in ambush attacks in Spain/modern Portugal?

[@mrnice7570]

Ah yes Sertorius in Spain and the white fawn deer

[@mrnice7570]

​@@BOSIE321 Viriathius the shepherd , victorious until betrayed by his own people

[@clarkstartrek]

Quoted in Sallust’s first-century B.C. work, Jugurtha describes Rome as “urbem venalem et mature perituram, si emptorem invenerit-a city for sale and doomed to speedy destruction if it finds a purchaser”-a valuable lesson he learned during his time with Roman troops in Spain.

[@Gonboo]

Numidians weren't black, they were the ancestors of modern day Berber peoples, so Mediterranean brown, not sub-Saharan black. Historical accuracy is kind of a necessary trait for a competent history channel.

[@lcplapiata5501]

That's why you don't have a channel, you clearly don't have a clue.

[@texenna]

agreed this is coming from a berber

[@adolfhipsteryolocaust3443]

Berbers are actually white like Europeans, they can even have blonde hair or blue eyes

[@texenna]

@@adolfhipsteryolocaust3443 they arent white like europeans tho

[@cocopus]

@@adolfhipsteryolocaust3443 the blue eyes and blonde traits are from the vandals that settled there. but originally they pretty similar to their Mediterranean cousins.

[@theguysal7191]

King Massinissa in BlackFace.

[@scarymonster5541]

Massinissa was not black

[@instatv5935]

just an afrocentrist

[@thereplicant6027]

he was not black , he was north african Amazigh

[@user-yd3kn5wx2y]

@@scarymonster5541 yes not black

[@koubichahouatia8820]

As a North African descendant of the Numidians, as happy as I was for seeing one of my favorite historical channels talking our history as much as I was disappointed in seeing you depict us with Sub-Saharan features 😖 We North Africans don't have the dark skin tone of Sub-Saharan africans We have Mediterranean olive skin

[@DestroyerOfSense000]

The video didn't make them look quite like sub-Saharan Africans, though they were definitely depicted as having darker skin than Numidians would have had. I'm not really sure what the depictions were aiming for.

[@koubichahouatia8820]

@@DestroyerOfSense000 Yeah They were a mix north African facial features with a Sub-Saharan dark skin, a completely inaccurate mess

[@chillin5703]

There are many North Africans with dark skin. This is a joke comment.

[@koubichahouatia8820]

@@chillin5703 Do you know North Africa, are you from here, have you been here or are just talking out of your a💲💲 Native North Africans all have Mediterranean skin tones ranging from white to olive to tan Those who have skin as dark as the ones depicted in this video are all from Sub-Saharan origins

[@scarymonster5541]

@@chillin5703 clearly you never went to north africa

[@Egg.335]

as a modern day numidian I find it offensive to miss calculate the skin color of the numidian people.

[@zakariadjouadi1611]

He thinks africa is country

[@Egg.335]

@@zakariadjouadi1611 he almost gave me a heart attack

[@mrjugurtha4077]

Me To brother

[@patrickchuan4550]

@@zakariadjouadi1611 No better than those who think that Africa as a continent. For a unbiased observer, this world have two major continents: the americas and the euro-asia-africas. //Also, the human race has only one race: Africans.

[@StickManVS]

WE WUZ NUMIDIANZ

[@scarymonster5541]

Numidians weren't black

[@kot9701]

N'SHIEET

[@michaelweston409]

We Wuz Kingz

[@mostaphiofthekingjuba8204]

Civilization and the kingdom of Almasilin and the Numidians🇩🇿♓👑

[@alexla7182]

Then arabs came and ruin everything😭

[@user-fq7pd3qs8x]

Why do you guys hate Massissil and always talk about Massil only?

[@alienmode1478]

Did whoever draw this ever see a North African person ?

[@user-cg2tw8pw7j]

​@@regularperson9801 Someone who has not been to the area

[@GlurglePop]

@@user-cg2tw8pw7j Hey Ali, yeah it’s tough arguing with people of the “progress” faction. If you aren’t careful you’ll be labeled a racist who is unfit to determine your own ancestry.

[@user-cg2tw8pw7j]

@@GlurglePop How can you differentiate between the Greeks, the Middle East, North Africa, Spain and Portugal, they look alike and this is strange

[@instatv5935]

Just an afrocentrist

[@nicschintee1511]

The depiction of Numidians as blacks is so wrong, they looked more like Levantine people and other Iberian tribes from Spain, light skin olive patters specific to Mediterranean region. They were not Ethiopian or sub-Saharan people that were black ffs

[@Vella_Attika]

The Empire is watching you!

[@asiberiantiger188]

But can the empire see why she left?

[@Vella_Attika]

It said a won something what is it?

[@mohamedbed8955]

I think that there are some inaccuracies that I have made. Ancient Numidia is North Africa, and it is known that North Africa is a mixture of Arabs and Berbers. Your depiction of the rulers of Numidia as being black has a strange propaganda. Therefore, whoever watches the video should search a little and not be led by the intended fallacies.🇩🇿

[@RuskiVodkaaaa]

Yep, honestly shocked this channel would do this, considering they are incredibly accurate historical channel. Maybe it was an accident (hopefully) but it continues to push the bullshit propaganda that all civilizations in North Africa such as the ancient Egyptians or Numidians were black...it's insulting an literally rewriting history.

[@socratrash]

That raid shadow legends, i still find it unbelievable that people play this nonsens and that company gaining so much money they can add on many historian channels. Fantastic video as always, when i was young, there was a comic about Jugurtha, a very good Belgian comic, it was amazing to read about this historic figure when i was a child, the first albums are true historical inspired and then it goes its own way after his ^death^. Thx for the video, big fan.

[@origami83]

you comment about that 'game' i totally agree with. They got a scummy monetary system and steal from artists. Its saddening that for many their standard for gaming has fallen so low that a thing like raid makes buckets of money.

[@riceburner6739]

tbh, i havent met anyone playing the game. no matter how hyper and aggressive their advert is.

[@fffrrraannkk]

get the sponsorblock extension and you'll never know it even showed up in the video.

[@Nick-hi9gx]

Quite remarkable How this little war in a backwater of the Classical world legitimately led to the Roman Empire.

[@isaack2084]

Yea man. I actually like the Sulla-Marian era of the Roman Republic more than the Triumvirate era. Marius and Sulla were larger than life and their alliances and rivalries literally planted the seeds and set the stage for the later civil wars and Imperial stage of Rome.

[@Nick-hi9gx]

@@isaack2084 Agreed, it has always saddened me how little attention they have gotten. The only games I've ever seen that focus on them are Alea Jacta Est, and a new mod for Total War Rome 2. Never seen a movie that focuses on them, except as a lead-up to Caesar for fifteen minutes.

[@isaack2084]

@@Nick-hi9gx there’s a great series of historical fiction novels by author Colleen McCullough. The first two books “The First Man In Rome, and “The Grass Crown” covers the events of the Jugurtha War, the Mithradites Wars, The Social Wars, and the German Invasions of that era. It’s the best storytelling I’ve ever seen on that period. It could make for a great tv series if they stuck to the source material.

[@mrnice7570]

​@@isaack2084 terrific series , one of the only ones that remains on my bookcase. Culminating in the October horse and then Anthony and Cleopatra stand alone novel

[@isaack2084]

@@mrnice7570 agreed. I tried to get into the later books but they weren’t as good as the first two.

[@thabomuso2575]

Had Jughurta simply given his rival a luxurious exile somewhere with some riches, an estate and titles, plus had he saved the Numidians and particularly the Roman citizens, he should have been quite safe.

[@Leo_1975]

Congratulations. I read Sallust's "Jugurtine War" when I was in college. But I didn't understand a lot at the time because I lacked more knowledge about Roman history. This video series is great and encouraged me to reread that classic book.

[@manuelacosta9463]

Jugurtha played his cards well. Humble, ruthless political operative and bribery. Lots and lots of bribery and more so since he was wrangling with Rome. That gold sure helped in that case.

[@isaack2084]

He was the original middle eastern despot. Bribing the western superpower to stay out of his internal politics while he pursued and killed his rivals only to have to flee and engage in guerilla warfare after a new election.

[@brokenbridge6316]

I've heard of this conflict before. And now it seems that I'm going to see a series on how it all went. Can't wait to see the rest of it.

[@sugahtron]

Jugurtha: add_money 40000 add_money 40000 add_money 40000 add_money 40000 add_money 40000 add_money 40000 add_money 40000 add_money 40000 add_money 40000

[@fodge5395]

I just wanted to point out something that bothers me when people depict Numidians in historical documentaries. The Numidians were not all black or very dark skinned. They were a Berber people would would have been mostly olive skinned, with some dark skinned people amongst them depending on the tribe. Most have 13% European admixture and 8% sub-Saharan admixture.

[@MRBell-kg4kr]

Well MR racist. The Arab invasion helped with the lightening of the skin in berbers. Also light skin isn’t a sign of “European”. European features and colored eyes are a greater indicator. Modern science says light skin is as recent as 20 thousand years ago.

[@GaryJones69420]

​@@MRBell-kg4krlove it when people pull the race card on facts

[@dihiahabireche2524]

As an Amazigh or as you say Berber myself from Algeria ex-Numidia I confirm I'm white myself and as a decedent of the Numidians people are extremely ignorant to think we native people of Africa are black when in reality we're north Africans and have more European and Mediterranean DNA ( Europe is just a water away) on the contrary sub Saharian African DNA is very minor considering the humongous natural barrier that is the Sahara desert between north Africa and Sub Saharan Africa

[@malektahri5590]

@@MRBell-kg4kr That's a very naïve statement, Its obvious from your comment you are Afrocentric. Arabs are not white or have lighter skin than Berbers to begin with, and this is not how genetics works lol. In North Africa, the Arab presence isn't as significant as most people think; they ruled for only about 35 years after nearly 70 years of war, then the Berbers revolted and independent Berber kingdoms emerged. Berbers are many times more numerous than they even during Banu Hilal and Banu Salim's migration which is considered the biggest migration wave to North Africa, as can be seen in Ibn Khaldun/Yaqut al-Hamawi/Abu Alabbas Anasiri's accounts, and more other historians. Actually, this debate does not require many arguments, the kings mentioned in the video had coins with their faces and it is evident they were no different from other Mediterranean people. You can also see how Egyptians portrayed Libyan tribes and what color they used for their skin, and how Herodotus described them. The portrayal of Berbers as black is really infuriating, as is what is happening with Cleopatra and Egyptian history, and that has nothing to do with racism.

[@leovanimazighen7342]

WE ARE MORE LIGHTED THAN arabs if you dont know a topic dont talk about @@MRBell-kg4kr genetic not the same its the time of science and dna we are amazigh north african no european or arabs make your own test then back talk aghyoul

[@LDN76]

As a child, I read the comicbooks 'Jughurta'. Very cool. As an adult, I bought all of them 😊

[@huntclanhunt9697]

Could you guys do a video on the Macromanic wars, or maybe Constantine's wars? Not many make vids on the mid to late empire.

[@lcplapiata5501]

Or Viriathus of Hispania so many to choose

[@tulthor2967]

Better not, they will portay them am asians perhaps.

[@robbabcock_]

What an excellent video! And a war I knew very little about. ⚔🔥🙌

[@petermills3814]

I've been following your channel & few others since 2016, and I just love all that there is about Roman and other history related to them on this channel here, along with the others from Kings and Generals... love your works! ❤ We need more vids about Rome's trade with the tribes of Northern Europe & others during its republic & empire + trade with Persia = Parthia & the Sassanids in goings on back then, Arabia and the rest of Northern Eurasia between the Nomadic tribes... that would be great ideas for up next in the near future for Summer projects to make. And even one about, did Rome's trade with India actually destroy the empire's economy? Because Rome's desires for silks, spices and other previous goods were traded mostly with their own gold & silver coinage and bullion to India, that eventfully dried up over time in just a few centuries since the days of the republic = till the crisis of the 3rd century with the inflations & debasing of their coins... due to shortages, and the mines running dry. That situation was never fixed till the Eastern Roman Empire's time under Justinian and after, due to diplomacy in exchange deals between them... and monks stealing silk worms from China in making their own industry of it all back home in the empire. Pompey the great's backstory in history from beginning to end = with his campaigns against the Crete pirates + his involvement in Spartacus's late rebellion, the last remains of the Seleucids in the east and the Jewish state of the time. As well as Sulla, Crassus and more on Marius too. Maybe try this for future vids please Invicta? 👌😎😉 Thanks again for all your hard work over these many years ongoing! 👍✔ Keep up the great work.

[@silverchairsg]

Jurgatha makes me think of the Morganites faction in Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri. They're all about wealth, wealth, wealth and bribing enemies with money. Anyone remember that game?

[@meatiesogarcia6478]

I was just tinking the other day about buying it to play it again, my old CD is beyond repair.

[@silverchairsg]

@@meatiesogarcia6478 You can get it from GOG games.

[@fatihk1194]

It is like strategy games. When the country is small and little to gain with increasing ranks there is less corruption. But when country becames bigger and richer positions of power attracts disloyal men. I think money and riches makes a country open to the corruption. And attract greedy to the politics rather than honest man dont lower themselves to claim power and riches.

[@John-pk9rw]

Here before the afrocentrists found this video

[@alfredroa9437]

Too late because they backwashwed Numidians in here

[@lcplapiata5501]

So Sallust was Afrocentric who described them as Maurus in his monograph entitled Bellum Jugurthinum. This name means “moor, dark-skinned”. It is a name of ethnic origin, derived from the Latin “Maurus”, meaning "belonging to the people of the Moors", who lived in the region of Africa called “Mauretania”, which extended from Algeria and came to Morocco and northern Mauritania. Probably the Romans gave them this name because of the dark color of the skin, in fact, amaurós (ἀμαυρός) in Greek means "moor, dark", also the meaning of amáurosi (αμαύρωση), browning, burnishing (burned or tanned.

[@simonsarh8024]

@lcplapiata5501 "romans gave them this name because of the dark color of the skin" Amazigh people were never dark skinned to become with 😂😂 get ur information right.

[@Jsk06201]

​@simonsarh8024 amazigh means free man in the berber language. North Africa is not black, instead of trying to steal other people's culture and history, you should read about your country history first. Oh I forgot the sub-saharan Africa has no history that's why you have to claim North Africa is black so you can make your own history.

[@simonsarh8024]

@@Jsk06201bro are u sure u talking to the right person? because i think we both agree on the same thing!

[@someshtbaglcpl5455]

Leaving a like and comment to support while I wait for the I editable stitching together if this series into the long form mini docs that I love so much from this channel

[@jamiemgr]

Great video! Can't wait for the next 👍

[@LeftoverPat]

Watching any of your multi-part series, i get the same excitement i used to get of the old Extra History videos back in the day. thank you for being so consistently detailed, professional, and know what history nerds want

[@shitardedgod4828]

I'm certain that numidians had more brighter skin color than that.

[@KaiHung-wv3ul]

Jugurtha's decision to massacre the Roman settlers always baffled me, like did he seriously expect the republic to do nothing after thousands of their own citizens got slaughtered by a foreign king, Rome had gone to war for far smaller matters, and while they gave in to bribery previously, that was because it really didn't bother them that much who sat on the Numidian throne, but Jugurtha now just made it personal, and a military response is garanteed. Jugurtha doesn't seem like the type to give in to emotions easily, and unlike Mithridates, he wasn't trying to prove a point and incite rebellion in Roman Africa, so why did he do it?

[@meilinchan7314]

Either he got cocksure that his Roman friends would protect him. Or more likely, like so many cases, Jugurtha lost control - there is only so much that a good commander can do. Moreover, as mentioned, Jugurtha's murder of Hiempsal compromised the respect he commanded from the Numidians, and would no doubt have interefered with his ability to keep his own men in line. We will never know what the true story was; all we know was that his actions finally incensed the Romans into attacking and defeating him. As well as ensure that Roman rule would be easier for the Numdians to digest.

[@davidhughes8357]

I've been studying roman military history for over 40 years and this has been very informative.

[@hannibalburgers477]

I have a genuine question. Have you pursued an academical career? My advisor insisted that I should follow another branch of History, as I lack monetary resources to make an extensive research on ancient history, so I am making my doctorate on Early Modern Period. Is it really hard to follow a career on ancient history.

[@Aginor88]

Interesting as per usual from this channel.

[@DT-lj1wr]

I just finished a book on Gaius Marius, perfect timing!

[@JRGProjects]

The most corrupt war in Rome The most corrupt sponsor in KZbin Very fitting 😂

[@Halcon_Sierreno]

Rome seems to be the arbiter of disputes when it comes to the internal politics of their neighbors. This reminds me a lot of what happened between Cleopatra and her brother.

[@pashapasovski5860]

Davida est impera

[@1994CPK]

awfully dark skinned for a north african at that time.

[@AB-fr2ei]

I agree with you but why "at that time" ?

[@lcplapiata5501]

What were they Greek, lmao

[@Nick-hi9gx]

@@lcplapiata5501 Nope, mostly the same thing they are now, Moorish. Who mostly are not black. Overwhelmingly, in fact.

[@lcplapiata5501]

@@Nick-hi9gx haha love schooling kids, Sallust wrote a monograph entitled Bellum Jugurthinum were he states them being Maurus. This name means “moor, dark-skinned”. It is a name of ethnic origin, derived from the Latin “Maurus”, meaning "belonging to the people of the Moors", who lived in the region of Africa called “Mauretania”, which extended from Algeria and came to Morocco and northern Mauritania. Probably the Romans gave them this name because of the dark color of the skin, in fact, amaurós (ἀμαυρός) in Greek means "moor, dark", also the meaning of amáurosi (αμαύρωση), browning, burnishing (burned or tanned please just stop.

[@skadiz6967]

Weren't the numidians ethnical berber

[@chakir348]

yeah and this clowns making them like they came from nigeria

[@davidhughes8357]

Excellent. My friends.

[@BSBRedAcesTankSquadDriver]

This video got my attention as soon as i saw the title Jugurthine war because i read couple of comics about Jugurtha

[@-RONNIE]

Good video as always thanks

[@John-pk9rw]

He blackwashed Amazighs how is this a good video?

[@-RONNIE]

@@John-pk9rw all due respect good or bad information is informative and appreciated by the people running Channel & this is how people learn from our past mistakes

[@SithStudy]

@@-RONNIE this wasn't a mistake, it was a calculated lie.

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

Maybe I should've bribed the coalition to let rule in peace than have Waterloo Part 2.

[@HellenicWolf]

Great video man!!!

[@John-pk9rw]

He blackwashed Amazighs how is this a great video?

[@HellenicWolf]

@@John-pk9rwexplain, what do you mean? what did he do wrong?

[@John-pk9rw]

@@HellenicWolf Are you blind?

[@scarymonster5541]

@@HellenicWolf he portray north africans being black

[@RemusKingOfRome]

Excellent - needs to be game.

[@silvershadchan4085]

@Invicta could you please make a video about The Cimbrian War - Rome’s Most Corrupt War (113BC - 101BC) Documentary

[@mostaphiofthekingjuba8204]

Nice channel to show history👍🏽🇩🇿♓❤

[@samdumaquis2033]

Very interesting

[@balaceanuandrei5183]

I guess Invicta kinda forgot the Amazigh were north african, and not subsaharan african. Heh, whatever its not like he is presenting a different visualisation of history for the sake of modern diversity concepts. Right Invicta?

[@arabianmapper6656]

They looked like that before the vandals

[@balaceanuandrei5183]

@@arabianmapper6656 I doubt it. Migrations never do much more than dissolve in the native population. Look at the balkans, culturally diverse and yet genetically still the same as our Indo-European forefathers. No trace of the turkic peoples that ran around during the second century still remains today.

[@arabianmapper6656]

@@balaceanuandrei5183 well many ppl lived and migrate to North Africa romans vandals greeks arabs the all affected them today Berber don't even look the same for example kabyles looks so different from mzab or touareg And i am from north Africa btw

[@rexblade504]

​@@arabianmapper6656 even depictions of North Africans from ancient times have their skin color being lighter and no where close to black. Just look at old paintings from Egypt

[@Jsk06201]

​​@@arabianmapper6656no, you're not north African. You're rejecting your origins , so you're not north African. You just wanna promote the African-centrisme because you think you're arabe. People like you hate the berbers more than any other race because you want to be an arabe so bad 😅.

[@carlramirez6339]

"Rome's most corrupt war" --> proceeds to have Raid Shadow Legends ad

[@countdowntorevolution9986]

Interesting background on J's early life and character I'd not heard before.

[@kapitan19969838]

It is a glorious thing to sub for Rome!

[@kaleomariz1000]

Ohhh my gosh 😮! What a story. Jugurtha could make a really awesome Netflix series.

[@awesomehpt8938]

Is there a war in Roman history that isn’t corrupt? I mean they’re all pretty much naked grabs of wealth, power and land. Except maybe some of the defensive wars.

[@petermills3814]

Marcus Aurelius? = both the Parthians & Germanic tribes had invaded the empire, so him and his brother & generals had to counterattack against them in their own territories for defence. When Attila invaded the West in the 450s AD = the Western Roman empire combined forces with other allied barbarian kingdoms to fight in defence against a common greater enemy for their very survival. BTW; That's every nation & people in human history for you, going from freedom fighters overthrowing kings & tyrant governments for democracy, to eventfully becoming empires themselves down the line, all but name... just ask Carthage. The Roman Republic was an empire all but name, just fat merchant elite senatorial militant nobility without a crown = dressed in togas... rule of few. Like Eldia & Marley from Attack on Titan = it's always about money + resources, control + power, ego & dominance in absolutes when it comes to greed & ambitions... sad but painful truth to reality... it just switches places & factions afterwards = from one dictatorship to another. Halo 3 Arbiter: You traded one villain, for another. 509 BC + 480 BC + 431 BC + 334 BC + 264 BC + 218 BC + 149 BC + many others in Rome's wars... and others in 1066 + 1096 + 1204 + 1754 + 1776 + 1812 + 1826 + 1836 + 1861 + 1914 + 1939 AD + cold war + Gulf war + 2001 + 2022 & more countless in endless cycles to come. When does it end? Achilles: It never ends. Fallout # War, war never changes... meaning, basic motivations. The weapons change, but the objectives remains the same. There are more offensive wars than defensive ones in all of human history... because it's cheaper going out and gaining than defending expensively.

[@riograndedosulball248]

Most of the early republic ones

[@Djas_sem]

Just because numidia is in Africa doesn't make it black All the characters were portrayed in this video as black Numidiains are ethnic amazigh the native population of north Africa and they are known to be fair skinned people brown or white

[@bilalhamoudan8635]

He wasn’t black tf

[@davidlea-smith4747]

Recommend viewers read 'The first man in Rome' by Colleen McCullough which covers this period beautifully and is very historically accurate.

[@brettnemecek8388]

I'm currently reading this book! Watching this video I was constantly thinking back to the parallels in the story.

[@stsk1061]

It's not at all historically accurate, but it's not bad.

[@mm-ir1ii]

Numidians are the predecessors of today's Berber / Amazigh so they were not black, other than that great video thanks

[@davidhughes8357]

Thank you. INVICTA is the commander in chief. I'm a loyal follower!

[@anthonybird546]

Well, you see, you don't get the benefit of the whole province if you just have Carthage. Also it's really soothing to see the map go all red, sssssssooooooo... 🤷

[@leovanimazighen7342]

d agellid jugerthen = the king jugurtha we still talk the language of our ancestors .;) viva imazighen

[@pocoloco-sr1cu]

I think this war is the main reason why the Romans won the Cimbri Wars. The difference of training, discipline, and ferocity from the conscripted legionaries to the Marian reforms changed Roman military prowess permanently

[@loreno7774]

Ah yes, the not well-known war Rome fought against the Masai

[@starcapture3040]

Jugurtha wasn't black, all North Africans weren't Black. stop this wok blackwashing of history. Africa is not even an African Word.

[@Nick-hi9gx]

Yes it is, it comes from Egyptian. Egyptian is Afro-Asiatic. But also agreed, don't change North Africans to black. The Massaeli and Masaesyli both had members of their tribe they referred to as darker, just like there were absolutely black people in Egypt...but they weren't anywhere near the majority skin color.

[@AB-fr2ei]

​@@Nick-hi9gx the word africa come from the ifri berber tribe Also afro-asiatic is a language family mainly present in MENA, what do this has to do blacks ?

[@starcapture3040]

@@Nick-hi9gx it comes from the Meddle east, a sematic Phoenician word for land of hot dust or caves. and by that they meant only what is today Modern Tunisia. the land mass was called Libya.

[@Nick-hi9gx]

@@starcapture3040 You...literally combined two different etymological sources that are contended. BTW, the Semitic languages are...Afro...Asiatic.

[@lcplapiata5501]

​@@starcapture3040 so they would have looked like darker Assyrians since the phonicians integrated with the Numibians who were black lol.

[@MBP1918]

Jugurtha literally swam in money and refused to die lol

[@Leffydht]

I'm Algerian and I've had your notification bell on for years and when I saw today's notification I almost couldn't believe it haha

[@John-pk9rw]

Same I was happy finally someone is covering Amazigh history, but as soon as it began, yep he blackwashed us

[@AB-fr2ei]

Shame that he is portraying them as Blacks tho

[@Leffydht]

@@John-pk9rw ikr I'm literally as white as a ghost and I have green eyes and amber hair

[@hakimben8472]

Numidian weren't amazigh tho, amazighs didn't even exist by that time.

[@AB-fr2ei]

@@hakimben8472 they were amazigh/berber If they werent, then what are they ?

[@ThoriberoCaroli]

Guess I'll be that guy... XP 6:16 Scipio, with a "k" sound. Like in scorpion.

[@sarkedev]

"Sipio" is the accepted English pronunciation, while "Skipio" is the classical Latin pronunciation. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpqsmWOnaZxsec0

[@ThoriberoCaroli]

​@@sarkedev Well, I'll stand corrected. Learned something new today. :) I will blame my thinking that the English speaking world acutally prounounced the c on Rome Total War. kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4nZk2Zrlpd2oJo&ab_channel=Totalwarfan454 Though I still claim the English pronounciation and spelling of Latin names overall is inconsistent and should be discouraged! XP Like saying Marcus Aurelius, but not Marcus Antonius (instead Antony for some Shakesperian reason...) And like Metatron says in the video, "because we are talking about a republican time, and I feel that classical pronuanciation is closer to how what the Romans actually did pronounce things at the time". So, I'll accept that there is another accepted standard, but I'll stand firm in considering it to be worse than other standards. ^^ Like I accept there is the Imperial unit system, while I think metric is better. ;) Apologies for the wall of text. X) And thank you for the correction. :)

[@dayros2023]

Ah, apparently modern day Algeria was the birthplace of wakanda lol

[@amranebraik4237]

JURGTHA in berber means "he's above them all" or "Superior"

[@FlaviuS_SPQR]

Bro The Numidians are not black

[@prsimoibn2710]

Then they are not Africans

[@wankawanka3053]

​@@prsimoibn2710 not all africans are black crazy i know

[@zakariadjouadi1611]

​@@prsimoibn2710 north Africa was never black my friend

[@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl]

I have to say you black washed the north Africans

[@John-pk9rw]

You’re the same Arab kid who said Amazighs were made up by France and now you’re claiming their history because you have no pre-islamic history🤣🤣🤣

[@lcplapiata5501]

What were they then? Greek looking lmao.

[@ibrahimsuleiman8473]

Did the painting indicate they are black or something? They look exactly like the north Africa Roma emperor. This channel is reliable,so keep your antiblack hatrate and enjoy the history.

[@zakback9937]

​@@ibrahimsuleiman8473 Roh qowed.

[@zakback9937]

​@@lcplapiata5501 they weren't Tyrones that were in your house all night.

[@reeyees50]

One of the few wars where Rome was actually the good guy. That Jurgurtine coup were the King was murdered was despicable

[@samwill7259]

Well gee, I never would have seen this coming It's almost like Rome had a corruption problem basically from day one that everyone chose to do nothing about

[@vitorpereira9515]

Next one should be the Dacian wars or Cimbrian war.

[@somestormcloakwithanarrowo4671]

I believe Kings and Generals also made a video about this, nevertheless it's always fun to see boxes fight

[@tristenmorris5165]

Cool

[@semperfidelis9083]

Why westerners depict us as black? we are not

[@scarymonster5541]

Because most americans never learn geography

[@Nemo-ew2hd]

@@scarymonster5541 not even close to true, if you as an American never learned geography it is because you were not paying attention

[@user-yd3kn5wx2y]

parce que c'est des hmars fini tout simplement

[@yoroshikuonegaishimasu8649]

Wrong despiction of the numidians

[@jakeg3733]

Ah yes, Brogurtha, scourge of the Broman Republic. And he loved wearing Cheetah skin for clothing

[@aintnoslice3422]

don't know why you made the Numidians black. They were North African/Berber. Don't bastardise their history to placate racial narcissists.

[@chillin5703]

The only racial narcissists are all of the people whining that North Africans are depicted as having skin colors in range with North Africa, because those colors happen to be on the darker end of things. I seldom see these people complaining when the North Africans are all pale, even though this is similarly innacurate.

[@aintnoslice3422]

@@chillin5703 What barstardisation of history are you retelling? North Africans - specifically in this case Berbers - being Mediterranean, do have a variety of skin tones from lighter complexions to darker ones, BUT NOT black. Not Sub-Saharan African - history isn't going to barstardise itself to your modern political agenda. The racial narcissists here are the ones who are constantly claiming other people's histories and culture as their own and demand they be represented in everything (and not only that but be centered) whether are not they were actually there. They've done this for the Egyptians, Moors, Israelites, Native Americans, Carthaginians, European nobility, you name it. All it seems to show is that they have no culture of their own to be proud of they have to steal others.

[@kevinfukthezetamale4298]

Jugurtha-The ultimate Magnificent Bastard.

[@lupo1thewolf]

Oooh finally! The "bellum iugurthinum" is even an enjoyable piece of work. Being divided in three chapters with three protagonists each with a personal vice that plagues the outcome of the war. Go read it!

[@joshportie]

The papacy said hold my beer I can top this 1200 years later and beyond.

[@maciej5640]

Why are the Numidians depicted in this video black?

[@kaiserchaoui6143]

Afrocentrist making a fake history for themselves😂 I'm numidian, white olive

[@Juel92]

Roman corruption is such a good subject to touch on.

[@calebbrekken4218]

Can you do a video on the papal Swiss guard

[@luzonait1291]

nice video covering one of the famous characters in north Africa ancient history after Hannibal and syphax and massinissa, although by Sallust the mother of Jugurtha wasn't a prostitute , but a concubine for the Numidian Prince

[@user-cg2tw8pw7j]

Didn't you commit suicide?

[@kobiglisson]

Would be cool to get a series on ancient armies that were destroyed during battle or legions that were wiped out completely

[@worsethanjoerogan8061]

This channel has several videos about the Varian Disaster at Teutoberg Forest

[@kobiglisson]

@@worsethanjoerogan8061 meant more like the disappearance of the ninth legion or the lost army of Cambyses that kind of stuff … but that is close too

[@jonbaxter2254]

Ah, Sulla being a chad once more.

[@waliddrissi8370]

Why make the Numidians as dark skinned ? North Africans (ancient or present) aren't black, and i dont think it's a mistake cuz you're already knowledgeable in history, unless if you have an agenda ?

[@user-gd6by9tl5z]

Jugurta can become a new Netflix hero 😂

[@freezinginferno2106]

I remember learning about this in a roman republic course. Now I wish they went into more detail (or that I paid better attention)

[@stuartward1755]

15:40 "bruh" -Adherbal, probably

[@mohamedfaid6706]

As algerian i didnt leant too muck about this in school so i want to thank you on behalf of my peopls

[@TheVineOfChristLives]

I asked ChatGPT what kind of prison would Jugurtha be facing in the 21st century for his roman crimes in the United States. Here’s the response: As an AI language model, I cannot provide an exact sentence for Jugurtha, as the charges he would face in a hypothetical 21st century United States would depend on the specific laws and statutes in place at the time. However, based on similar charges in previous cases, the aggregate prison time for the crimes listed in the sample indictment might be: Murder: Depending on the jurisdiction and specific circumstances of the crime, murder can carry a sentence of 10 years to life imprisonment or the death penalty. Bribery: Bribery is typically classified as a felony offense and can carry significant prison time and fines. In some cases, individuals convicted of bribery have been sentenced to 5-10 years in prison. War Crimes: War crimes are considered serious offenses under international law, and individuals convicted of such crimes can face life imprisonment or the death penalty. Human Rights Violations: Depending on the severity of the human rights violations, individuals convicted of such crimes may face lengthy prison sentences ranging from 10 years to life imprisonment. Overall, based on similar charges in previous cases, it is possible that Jugurtha could face a sentence of several decades or even life imprisonment, depending on the severity of the charges and the discretion of the judge and jury responsible for sentencing.

[@michaelweston409]

Good thing he was born 2000 years before international law then lol

[@TheVineOfChristLives]

@@michaelweston409 but interesting they let him starve in prison. A bit barbaric for them even. Goes to show what lengths they’ll go for public figures.

[@renkov9840]

King Jugurtha sure is based