Iolo Williams on BBC One discussing Llyn Brenig Osprey nest vandalism 2 May 2021

[@GeemeffGeemeff]

We are all very sad and bewildered, thank you for your comments, it's difficult to express sufficient outrage. This picture sums up how we all feel but the Ospreys even more so: twitter.com/geemeff/status/1388830284028731392

[@GeemeffGeemeff]

@@princessofthecape2078 So by implication, anything that doesn't interest you has no right to a peaceful life. Bizarre.

[@ds7675]

Thank you Geemeff for that link. Fortunately my state (USA) has passed some legislation re the situation. It’s simply appalling that people participate in such senseless acts of violence against nature. Of course, most is all for money and maybe because it makes these people feel justified/self-important in the killing of defenseless animals. IMO they have no souls.

[@digill13]

Absolutely disgusting and disappointing!!!!

[@GeemeffGeemeff]

@@ds7675 The Uk has legislation too, all nesting birds are protected and then Ospreys have extra protection as they are a red-list species. But you can't legislate for criminal idiots, alas.

[@GeemeffGeemeff]

@@cobus989 some humans don't care - looking at the comments here, it's clearly not all humans.

[@erdevon3257]

Disgusting. Names and addresses of those involved should be made available

[@elizabethowen5737]

They should be caught, if only for their own sakes, they are obviously going through some sort of mental crisis. Personally I would put them away for years,

[@lindalaw9616]

Sadly @Elizabeth Owen currently the criminal justice system does not give sufficient penalty’s for any of the heinous crimes against our wildlife, if they get to court at all. Personally I think they should have their hands chopped off with their own chain saw, as if they were actually convicted tom

[@lindalaw9616]

2. If they were caught on camera and pleaded guilty or found guilty at the earliest time they would get a 1/3 off automatically and most Wildlife crime does not get an actual custodial sentence, it would possibly be suspended, effectively on trust, to not commit another offence, this person or persons are a danger.

[@GeemeffGeemeff]

This has attracted so much publicity and outrage that I think if caught, they would get a maximum sentence. My opinion only, of course, but I certainly hope I'm right.

[@joeallen9104]

This is no mere act of vandalism, this is an act against nature. And if whoever did this is reading this comment, I don’t care what your motives were. Those birds are not expendable, I can’t say the same about you.

[@lindaj5492]

Appalling. But I have worried that the popularity of live camera feeds is revealing the exact locations of these nests. I think the early Scottish nests used to have a rota of volunteers guarding them.

[@davidhumphreys7035]

They're not hard to spot in Brenig. Iirc they had ex Special Forces guarding them in the early days.

[@shoes123uk8]

Shocking that someone could do this! 😡

[@Chriswilliams-lx9mx]

Anyone know if the ospreys went to they other nest,with the decoy egg in it 🤔

[@GeemeffGeemeff]

Last update is 14th May, saying some Greylag geese had taken over the nest but the Ospreys LM6 and LJ2 are still around and still strongly paired up.

[@Chriswilliams-lx9mx]

@@GeemeffGeemeff ok thanks for the reply

[@janetturner7489]

Just watched this, Geemeff. The point is that these ctuel monsters have breached the law and they need to be brought to justice and punished. Knowing their reasons for this, however, will help hopefully in the protection of other osprey nest sites. They have destroyed 20% of Welsh osprey sites in Wales and that is a high amount. Thanks for posting this.

[@johnrogers7192]

Fishermen

[@mikekayanderson408]

@@johnrogers7192 Surely a pair of Ospreys would not make a very big dent in the fish population for such an extreme act by fishermen????

[@janetturner7489]

@@mikekayanderson408 of course they wouldn't. I'm not saying this about all fishermen but human beings think they own the planet and can run it at their convenience. They are greedy. Up in Ayrshire some years ago a fisherman shot a seal dead in a river estuary, because, the man said the seal was a nuisance by taking fish.

[@davidhumphreys7035]

@@johnrogers7192, fisherfolk? If it wasn't for the fish stocked at Brenig for the fisherfolk to catch the Ospreys wouldn't exist there, I'd be incredibly disappointed if it was a fellow angler. There's more than enough fish in the lake for all.

[@susandennis347]

Horrific, and so sad. These magnificent birds have given us so much delight during lockdown

[@Silent_Spaces]

Sadly, these sort of acts will continue until there is proper deterrent penalties and enforcement of existing laws. They are finally putting in place stronger penalties for people who abuse domestic animals. We now need the same campaign for stronger wildlife laws. Instead of the typical fine and a slap on the wrist.

[@lindalaw9616]

Agree entirely @Silent Spaces, unfortunately there are quite a few obstacles in the way, like wealthy land owners who have power to stop the laws being changed against them, I hope it does, I really do, but they still have to be brought to court.

[@paulinewhite3394]

This is awful I follow the progress of several webcam every day Such a sad act of vandalism

[@ds7675]

Such a shame that someone could do this to a nest. I do hope the person responsible is apprehended.

[@GeemeffGeemeff]

@D S couldn't agree more.

[@mrp2868]

We need to find who this person is , someone out their knows who it is, someone who owns a chainsaw, a boat, life jacket etc

[@carolgreene8757]

Or someone's dad owns etc etc.. I think a local pubs may be good places to ask about.. (when closed of course)

[@davidhumphreys7035]

You cannot access the lake after a certain time as all the gates are locked and certainly can't launch a boat, there's ANPR and Average Speed Cameras on the road to the lake so hopefully the reg was noted.

[@gailhl]

That's too awful for words! I hoped they're caught!

[@suzycat2026]

I'm shocked & saddened to hear about this. Who could, or would do this? Just unthinkable 😥💞🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@GeemeffGeemeff]

Unthinkable to us, Suzy, but obviously not to the perpetrators. Doesn't make sense!

[@suzycat2026]

It's an outrage @@GeemeffGeemeff What happened to the Ospreys there? I heard another nest was put up, then someone said it wasn't a properly set up nest. I feel so sorry for them. 😥 They need better protection, cameras at a distance & more patrols of the areas.💜

[@GeemeffGeemeff]

@@suzycat2026 Here's the CEO of the local wildlife trust talking about it kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGS4dmxqqNmoi5I

[@joshuafox1303]

I'm not familiar with the specific context surrounding this nest. Was this something that attracted a lot of attention from people coming and stopping to watch and if so, what is there around this area that would be effected negatively by that attention? Either way, sad indeed.

[@paulinewhite3394]

This is awful I follow all the osprey nests every day.

[@Danny_Transition_Patrol]

This is disgusting, the culprits need their hands chopping off!

[@GeemeffGeemeff]

Bit extreme, but I understand emotions are running high, this was a simply horrific attack on an innocent pair of birds just leading their lives not bothering anyone.

[@freespeechforall1069]

Thank you for this report.

[@JanButterflyCons]

I cannot understand why anyone would want to do this - is it fishermen? the Ospreys don't take that many fish

[@GeemeffGeemeff]

I agree, Jan, it is incomprehensible.

[@markthomas1668]

The local angling community should be receiving a visit from the bobs. Also, security lessons to be learned here.

[@johnobiro5202]

I hope whoever did this is caught, named and shamed. It’s disgraceful. I was at Brenig for a few days last week, it’s such a crying shame.

[@GeemeffGeemeff]

It would at the very least be interesting to find out why they did it.

[@johnobiro5202]

@@GeemeffGeemeff thanks. I know it would be interesting. I think it was a local farmer. (I’m not sure if the Osprey attack Lambs). That’s just my opinion of course.

[@GeemeffGeemeff]

@@johnobiro5202 Ospreys are piscivorous, their diet is 99% fish so the local lambs are safe from them.

[@johnobiro5202]

@@GeemeffGeemeff good to know. Thank you.

[@carolynwoodman1734]

Get these criminals please. They are low life

[@austin1839]

Whoever did this should burn in hell for attacking Gods creatures.

[@jackkaspersson7497]

My first thought was a child but a chainsaw speaks more to an adult. One thing sure, it wasn't Charlie Tuna ...

[@jwillow2642]

Shocking 🥺 find who ever did this 😡

[@rmyronovich4382]

Perhaps a reward offered might induce someone to come forward with information. I am sure that whoever committed this crime has divulged his actions to others by now. A nice reward might just tempt someone especially in these difficult times. The only problem will then be that the law will not be able to effect a suitable punishment.

[@GeemeffGeemeff]

A reward has already been offered, and perhaps someone will come forward so the perpetrators can be brought to justice.

[@rmyronovich4382]

@@GeemeffGeemeff I am sure it will bear fruit! Maybe the name(s) and addresses of the offending person(s) could also be made public.

[@kopstubber2524]

Sick!!!

[@GeemeffGeemeff]

Yes. Just leave them alone, even if you're a keen fisherman, how can a pair of birds spoil your fun? Live and let live...

[@crabtree8822]

fishermen

[@GeemeffGeemeff]

That's one possible option but nothing is known yet.