IOP - Ta-Nehisi Coates on The Case for Reparations

[@constancewalsh3646]

I'm so glad to see a recent comment. Somehow I remained ignorant of the existence of Ta-Nehisi until a month ago when Between the World and Me fell into my hands. Since then, I read or listen to something by this man nearly every day. There are millions of people in this country who attend Twelve Step Meetings regularly to save their lives. What is required of an individual for healing is no less required of a nation. Steps Four through Eight clearly, in few words, describe what is required for healing. Step 8: “Made a list of all persons we had harmed and became willing to make amends to them all.” This is not a religious precept, it is a moral human precept. We have a long way to go.

[@thianajamesy1222]

I am not from here, I am from the Caribbean, I have the utmost respect for Black Americans, because I don't know how they survived living with such cruelty. In the Caribbean the blacks were left to our own device, I grew up seeing everyone around me is black. The stores were owned by blacks. All of the teachers are were black. I would like to take this opportunity to say Thank You for you all courage, determination, and fighting spirit. Blacks fought for the things that we immigrants enjoy but they are the last or least of the population to actually benefit from the things they fought for.

[@SRH2007SRH]

Thiana Jamesy thank you for recognizing this 🖤

[@Mrs.T305]

@Matthew Garrett we will not because you told us that we are not ADOS fight your own battles

[@Mrs.T305]

Thiana Jamsey .... Ok but they have much more opportunities today than we do. Black foreigners come here and do very well and it's because of our level of resiliency. And although we are grateful for the Civil Rights movement, if it didn't occur, we had options to migrate to other countries. I don't owe them the rest of my life for the civil Rights movement, I'm sorry. We must stop perpetuating their victimhood mentality. Their ancestors have experienced the trauma yes, but they were born into much more opportunities to succeed than their ancestors were. They're using their history for monetary gains and even if they feel as if they have the right to do so, it will not guarantee them wealth. This is the delusion that they're under, that reparations will guarantee them generational wealth. Acquiring wealth comes from money management (which all of us could benefit from) and making better choices. Mi nah quarrel wid yuh still but mi jussah seh, nuffah Dem badmine yuh tings an nuh wah werk...🤷

[@norabrill9977]

Racist rant that says more about you than I want to hear😊

[@darylstephens1391]

​@@Mrs.T305STOP USING THE OPPRESSORS WORDS! If it wasn't for Black Americans fighting for justice and equity, Asian, Latin and those in the Caribbean wouldn't be where they are today. Black Americans have never had a Victim Mentality. Your comments tell me you know nothing about the Black American experience in America. No one told the Japanese how to handle their reparations. No one told the European Immigrants who came here to start a new life. (OH, I'm sorry, they gave 161 acres of land. They gave them teachers to teach them how to farm. They gave them school to train them. Today your federal government give the ancestors money to not farm. About 40 million of them.) But, we never talk about them being a member of the VICTIMHOOD CLASS! We never talk about them not passing down or able to handle their GERATIONAL WEALTH! Wealth that comes from the taxes of BLACK PEOPLE. But, only when it comes to Black people about reparations, we lose our collective minds. God will never be please with what a country that has no empathy or sympathy for ever person on the face of the earth, except when it comes to BLACK AMERICANS. I have no words to express for anyone that doesn't see the evil of a country that used it's legal system to hurt and kill one race of people by it's LAW. But, Joseph has a word, "you meant it for evil, but God meant it for good." I hope you study the history of the Black Americans in the U.S.A.

[@edithlong919]

They still charge us more when we buy our houses.

[@slindilengcobo3235]

My God, Ta-nehisi is so animated and free in this interview. I almost forgot there was an interviewer. Love the simplicity of the truth at about 38mins

[@Flashyfinancier]

Parasite thinking

[@pkspalding]

There is probably no issue more potentially divisive than that of reparations for African Americans for centuries of slavery, exploitation and oppression. I was always mildly in favour of it; it seemed a means of acknowledging the past. I also saw drawbacks. However, the case that Ta-Nehisi Coates makes is so cogent and brilliant I am now fervently for the idea. He presents the justice and sense of his argument flawlessly.

[@charlieroper3987]

Write 'em a check. Nothing stopping you.

[@tiffanyhooker5734]

Peter Spalding I don’t know how one can ever be “mildly for” correction or making amends.

[@georgemckenzie1824]

@AdamWayneone dude all whites or non blacks have significantly benefited off of slavery, and the holding back of blacks, which was further injurious...life for whites benefited from keeping blacks locked out of the dominant society.....which was the purpose of jim crow and black codes after slavery...to keep blacks un-empowered and disenfranchised... immigrants who came here, found life easier for them, because of what was done to blacks...so they benefited too....sorry charlie....the money comes from the government or what ever is to be dispensed...i think low cost non-parasitic housing loans would be a start, along with no taxes...free education or trade training would be good too...... but i really dont care.....but i agree it is owed and we should all press for it....it can stand as a monument to start the healing between the races.....and stand as a lesson.....

[@dipdo7675]

@Peter Spaulding “centuries of slavery”. Let’s clue you in to reality…slavery existed in the US less than 80 years!! Now count them…US established in 1776 and the Civil War ended in 1865!! The trick the the ilk of Coates an the NYT’s 1619 project fakers, liars and BSers use is try to extend it back to 1619 . Not our problem! And in any event if you include 1619 (and I don’t and the numbers of slaves were negligible anyway) it’s less than 300 years. What next? Reps for the Irish v GB, Slavs, Greeks, Italians and Spanish from their Muslim Slavers, indigenous aussies v Australia, AAs v the native African Blacks who captured their ancestors and sold them into slavery…and on and on!! Yeah Coatesis “brilliant “ (you said it) alright!! At ignoring reality and history!!

[@dipdo7675]

@George McKenzie…so what??!! To put it rationally, dems da breaks…move on!! Coates?? Is a faker!!

[@karij8197]

I love how he answered that last question 💯

[@gmwilliams4314]

I have read a lot of comments on KZbin but I am glad I read these, especially the negative one's. There is no doubt in my mind any longer that race trumps all here in America, still. Thanks for being so completely honest.

[@Sir-gt4jz]

Seems you are 6000 years late to the party. Discrimination is an age old thing as well as the anti black dynamic. The modern label is just centuries old.

[@tyroneburnett5640]

This is really bad for all of Africa America we have and still got NO yet reparation this 2021 it’s a damn shame we need it🙏🏾

[@Flashyfinancier]

Parasite

[@marjorielemons7551]

#ReparationsNow #CutTheCheck

[@DeanDangerousTDD7]

This comment keeps getting deleted. 5/9/23 African Americans should consider rejecting reparations if the reparations arent multigenerational. In my opinion, the reparations should start with waving all African American's property & income taxes for the next 400 years. - American Intermediary I don't mean to offend anybody by mentioning this comparison but its something that I never understood. The Jews in Europe suffered genocide at the hands of the Nazi's for 12 years resulting in World War 2. After WW2 when the world caught wind of the inhumane actions took against the Jews during the Holocaust. The world came together and pathed a road towards the existence of Israel. So basically what I'm saying is, for the 12 years of suffering that the Jews endured they received a WHOLE COUNTRY. Africans were sold into slavery to American colonists around 1492 and this lasted until around 1865. So close to 400 years total and 89 of them years were under the Established United States of America. When the world found out about the evil treatment to slaves and the fact that they were not even considered as human beings, the world did nothing. When looking at these two evil historical events side by side, (The Jews killed during the Holocaust which last 12 years & a estimated 6 million Jews murdered) & then ( Africans sold into slavery, losing all human rights which lasted 400 years & a estimated 60 million + Africans Murdered) How can anybody say that the world's reaction & outcomes to the two separate evil travesties is fair or even in the same ballpark as fair! *___(((___The Jews suffered 12 years, lost 6 million people and the outcome was that the world basically gave them a country (Israel)___)))___* - *___(((___Africans were sold into slavery & suffered for 400 years, lost an estimated 60 million + people and the world ignored this and from the USA they received the thirteenth amendment and was released into a society that was mainly prejudice & hated them.___)))___ How is this justice? & How come nobody ever talks about this Modern Day Comparison ? (American Intermediary) I think that maybe waving African American's home property tax for four hundred years would be a good start to reparations ! (Israel wouldn't exist without the west's intervention, TRUE or False ? Who beside Jews benefited from Israel becoming a country?) (African slaves in the USA were not even treated with the decency or even with recognition that they were human beings in the USA for 400 years. When slaves were freed in the USA they were told good luck. GOOD LUCK catching up to the rest of society financially, GOOD LUCK catching up with the rest of society community wise, GOOD LUCK finding employment with the very little education and skills that slave owners allowed to them while held in slavery, GOOD LUCK SURVIVING IN AMERICA!!!!

[@Sir-gt4jz]

@@DeanDangerousTDD7 Its as if you dont know how they got the money to fund the slave trade, the full effects of it, how europe was even smart enough to pass an ocean, or how modern non black people maintain wealth and power. There is no condition of equality it is a complete void of financial failure that can be adjusted with forced education. The reparation you people ask for are silly and laughable. The value will never be repayable and the least that can be done with out extinction is an eternal repayment. You dont just repay cultural genocide with people who'd be bumbling in a dark age had they not been given literacy among other things.

[@BlvkColossus]

Great great interview!!!!

[@stellahsgroove]

The thing that's crazy to me is the issue of the "white opinion". He says that white people were surprised by redlining....basically saying that most white people are unaware of their privileged status historically and present day in this country....im not sure if I believe that...most white ppl know about slavery..right?...and are aware about mistreatment afterward...yet still are not in agreement with reparations....why?..bc we can't figure out how to pay back those affected? That makes no sense! Reparations will not affect white ppl!..or will it?..Maybe they're afraid of the possible leveling of power? ...hum?.. I'm glad that Mr Coates has the attention of white ppl...many before him have made this argument but it fell upon deaf ears...so although some of the things he says in this interview are said not to offend the entire "white race"....I hope that restitution will be made soon for the systematic damage that continues to plague black people in this country. Oh! His response to the question about how Obama would respond to the question of reparations totally discredits an earlier statement which Coates compares him to Malcolm X....Malcolm would have stood for what he believed to be true and would have been unapologetically firm on the matter...President or not... especially considering the evidence presented...so PLEASE let's not compare the 2...

[@FreedomFighters444]

This man is brilliant. Love him

[@karimrahmaan6571]

Here it is: Reparations Finally, will you sign the petition? petitions.whitehouse.gov//petition/reparations-finally-descendants-slaves-american-civil-war-restitution-act

[@dipdo7675]

Brilliant?? Hardly!! Take off the woke glasses and the real Coates is revealed…and he ain’t no genius!!

[@malcolmxgarvey3689]

leave it up to a black man to get up and bring up someone else when somethings about him no one has ever done it for us the uncivilized tribes kicked the black freedman out of the treaty of 1866 they also owned slaves, speak for yourself sir 1:24. i like how Tanahesi handled it though.

[@unc1589]

I’m not a Cotes guy. Neither am I a Sowell guy. To see a new generation, far removed, grapple with this is absolutely adorable. Imagine having this conversation in the 20s/30s. “Americans” would be way more honest. We’re so sophisticated and polite and open now. In the days when we were in the thick of it you’d hear “whaddaya talking about? Who cares about the pinions of a bunch of negras?” “Of course we did all that to them! We ain’t shamed. It’s the American way!” “Kaint we all just get along? Why would we wanna do that?” It was still like that in the 80s. Ask grandpa.

[@paulssendawulabwogi5488]

I hope and pray the act of talking about and designing the reparations heals the wounds and opens a new story in this country.

[@Logikal9]

In don't know if the rest of them in the audience caught that ...."but it's a high achieving high school" I caught that shit right away too

[@Soda3000Pop]

There is no transcript notes so I can’t follow along with what’s being said!❤

[@affey]

Great video/interview. Is there a transcript of this interview?

[@silvermediastudio]

Affey Keep looking for racism, Coates. I promise, you'll find it, everywhere. This guy is a racist pig who is profiting off the division of the United States, by exploiting black people and exploiting existing racial tensions. His father was a black panther and he is spewing the same hatred across the land from his liberal safe haven.

[@georgemckenzie1824]

@@silvermediastudio and the black panthers were a a black organization that rallied against status quo aka white supremacy.....you said that like you were inferring that since someones father was a black panther, that somehow aligns them against you and all whites...they started out serving free breakfasts and patrolling the neighborhoods for police incursions, and crime....they became militant to defend black people, not for attacking white people.....see you are all too short sighted and dumb to realize the cops in black neighborhoods have been a problem since the institution of police evolved from slave catchers.....the panthers were formed by prestigious college educated blacks...but white society , and largely in part to j edgar hoover, and again who whites supported either actively or tacitly, did everything in his power to see to their demise and destruction... for only trying to make things better for blacks, which to pathological whites like yourself equates to, "against whites".....dude youre a dope..... and whites created the hatred in 1619 when they brought the first slave here.....blacks dont spread hate...they dont hate...and they dont package it up, and proselytizer it like you just did with that black panther statement.......trying to get people to hate tanheesi because his dad was a black panther...... dude you dont know him.....you just know his words.....and thats what you dont like......scathing red hot seering truth.....why dont you try debunking or dismantling his premises...or you could just call him a racist...lol

[@mikeaskme3530]

Before i watch the QA i will say this, i think the reason we cannot understand racism in this country, is because there are groups looking at racism and effects of racism only through their experiences and the experience of what ever group they came from. For instance hypothetically what if it was Africans who took the Americas from Native Americans and enslaved Europeans and all that came with it, i wonder if Europeans (whites) would understand the damaging effects of it then? I dont know what do anyone who reads this think?

[@dipdo7675]

@mike askme Dude you are precious!! No take your hare brained theories and go home. And aren’t you embarrassed with how dumb you sound!! Illiterate too!!

[@salamjihad3449]

EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS RACISM !! BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAS BEEN RACIST AGAINST !! I HAVE BEEN RACIST AGAINST ASIANS AND WHITES ! IM SURE THEY DONT LIKE IT . BUT AS FOR REPARATIONS !! OUR ANCESTORS KILLED PEOPLE AND SENT AFRICANS OFF THE SLAVERY TOO !! ARE WE OWED ANY OF THEIR DEBT?? SHOULD WE BE PUNISHED FOR WHAT THEY DID? GET REAL DUDE !! ALL WE NEED TO DO IS STOP FIGHTING EACH OTHER AND STAY IN SCHOOL.. AND WHAT OUR ANCESTORS DID AS SLAVES WAS COMPLETELY LEGAL !!! THEY WERNT OWED A PAYCHECK !! OF COURSE, THE WEALTH OF THIS COUNTRY IS BECAUSE OF THE SLAVE MASTERS! WHO BOUGHT SLAVES AND HORSES AND OXEN ECT !! TO MAKE THIS COUNTRY WHAT IT IS TODAY !!! SLAVES WERE TOOLS.. ONCE SLAVERY WAS ABOLISHED THEN THE FREE WORK STOPPED TOO. HOW DO YOU FIGURE ANYONE OWES SLAVES ANYTHING? DO WE OWE THE OXEN ANYTHING TOO? THATS THE MOST REDICULOUS THING I HAVE EVER HEARD!!! AND Y,ALL LIKE "WHERES MY MONEY" LOL AMERICAN BLACKS ARE THE RICHEST AND MOST EDUCATED BLACKS ON THE PLANET !! ISNT THAT REPARATIONS ENOUGH? I WOULD RATHER BENN BORN HERE THAN ON SOME DIRT RUN IN A MUD HUTT IN AFRICA !! WE ALL DONT REALIZE HOW GOOD WE GOD IT !! GROW THE HELL UP !!

[@unc1589]

Hypothetically, whoever practiced it would be wrong and the burden of justice would be against that group. But that’s not what happened.

[@knf4451]

Why is it all of a sudden an issue when reparations is considered for black people when we have all of these programs and money for illegal immigrants and taxpayer-funded money for the desendants of Holocaust victims (which took place outside of the US) but now we don't have money for reparations for black people?? Can this country possibly be so colorist and racist so much as to literally fight this idea of helping black people get a leg up? They have been self-sustaining for over 300 years and it was up to the government to hold their promise of 40 acres and a mule which they didn't, so if you're mad, get mad at the government for not keeping their word that black people would get land and resources, which is three centuries overdue.

[@princehall520]

Great dialogue.

[@creolecajun9988]

You hit it on the head with all this slavery talk. Fact is for 800 years prior to Europeans entering the slave trade which sold roughly 11 million slaves African Kingdoms had become strong by capturing smaller kingdoms and selling there captives into slavery known as the Arab slave trade in which over 80 million slaves were sold. To this day there are roughly 25 million people who are slaves sold from east Africa into the Middle East and Asia.. Europeans were the first people's to end slavery without there help slavery would be much worse today. Were they guilty of colonization yes but so did other African tribes over other indigenous tribes also same for Native American Indians who also teamed up with the French to extinguish there rivals And to your point we don't know based on skin color simply who was a slave and who was a slave owner or who had nothing at all to do with slavery. Ancestors that is. Because many blacks were both slaves and slave owners and there ancestors slave masters who captured and sold slaves and many black had nothing at all to do with slavery who came over to America when many immigrants did in the early 1900 European immigrants who also had nothing to do with slavery. Also as you point out poor whites didn't have slaves and Blacks in the North were free men . They say 1/3 of blacks in New Orleans owned slaves. And we all know the first space owner in America was a black man... So all this talk about reputations really need not be pointed at the people who legally bought you but rather at the African Kingdoms who captured you and sold you to the White, Arabs, and Asians.. sad people don't even know half the truth about slavery and want to blame the white man for it all and demand they get reputations 😂😂😂😂

[@amychasen7817]

What's disappointing about Coates is how little he brings to the table that's new. So much of what he says - here and in countless other interviews - is about his own path of discovery of things others have done and illuminated, that have been well covered and discussed. He gets outsized credit for reasserting facts that have been widely available for sixty years.

[@stephenmartin4207]

But he says it.... lol like literally all the time, he says the information he brings up is out there and is common but people don’t accept the truth. He also sources his work all the time, it’s all through his writing and talks. His gift is synthesizing and organizing the info while applying his poetic and emotional writing style to create impactful works and he speaks in that way as well.

[@Dubcito]

You want something new to and old problem that hasn’t been fixed.

[@georgemckenzie1824]

amy chasen-the story was about his experience being poignantly shared with his son. and , lady not enough has changed to even mention it. and he has also shared some things he thought were good. if you live your whole life with a boot on your neck, then how does a brand new boot change anything? i think nost white people, except the more adventurous ones, have a clue even what racism is,much less the sprawling symptoms and the nuances of emotion, of something so grossly foreign to you, that you have no basis for comparison.

[@constancewalsh3646]

There's nothing new under the sun. It's the listeners that are new.

[@robertmuhammad3970]

@@constancewalsh3646 Brother, you took the words right out of my mouth 100.

[@kathyskinner6119]

I would like to put the idea out there that all black Americans should get free education/free Healthcare from the cradle to the grave. That is one way to go.

[@stephenlayland2889]

Reparations should be the standing policy of the United States and State governments toward every eligible citizen. Direct-line descendants of persons who were provably enslaved should receive cash, tax-free reparations according to a fixed formula. Once this formula is established, it can then be used to make whole other persons wronged by governmental inaction against manifest injustice. Throughout the history of public education, teachers have been the most poorly-compensated professionals working in America. Their children have endured social and material deprivations due to the stinginess of taxpayers. This is an ongoing manifest injustice which should support the existence of the US Bureau of Reparations for decades to come. Bureau Chief will be a plum job bestowed at four-year intervals on the haloed head of some Presidential favorite. Never mind controversy. That's what buffers are for. In support of the reparations eligibility of public educators, I would argue that women were affected all out of proportion to their population, as the majority of public school teachers have historically been women. Obviously, women as a class should be eligible for cash, tax-free payments to make them whole for their historic suffering. Unlike the black population, the great majority of teachers, and nurses, are women. Of course, the Bureau will need a motto. How about "Pandora's Bux"? Writing.Com/authors/runoffscribe

[@yancywalker7139]

the state of Alabama owes The Walkers' $410,000 plus punitive damages for taking systematically more than 100 acres of farm land from Jackson Walker in Tuscaloosa County Alabama.

[@TheRonster1954]

In the American legal system, damages hinge on the principle of cause and effect - one pays for the damage one causes. In the case of slavery, there is no culpable person alive to pay for the crime.

[@sweetsistar792]

Then the same theory would apply to reparations given to Asians, Jews and Native Americans. So why shouldn’t the same justification for reparations apply to Foundational Black American Descendants of Chattled Slaves?

[@mellodope8904]

The government and many institutions, as well as families, still exist. Many politicians have recently had their lineage tied to slaveholders. American chattel slavery was a social AND economic system that had benefits for whites who did not own slaves. Through American Chattel Slavery, non-slaveholding whites could be hired in various capacities to uphold the system.

[@Logikal9]

Am I the only one who thinks Ta-Nehesi and raekwon are semi a-alikes, primarily in the face. Correct me if I'm wrong

[@pHiLKizer]

I can kinda see that :). He also looks like he could be a cousin in the Simmons family (Russell, Rev Run, etc.)

[@Logikal9]

Yep

[@michaelweber5702]

Twice as good ? Aren't we all human ? As Rodney King said , "Why can't we all get along ?" ...

[@unc1589]

Why? Because they didn’t want to Michael. Historically speaking.

[@alexmarvin3093]

having to go back and forth between 100% and 1% on the volume for this guy to talk...

[@dexterlakeclub93]

His style of speaking and little laughs he does remind me so much of Chris Rock. He's like Chris Rock if he became an academic/journalist.

[@silvermediastudio]

dexterlakeclub93 Keep looking for racism, Coates. I promise, you'll find it, everywhere. This guy is a racist pig who is profiting off the division of the United States, by exploiting black people and exploiting existing racial tensions. His father was a black panther and he is spewing the same hatred across the land from his liberal safe haven.

[@wendellspivey3747]

@@silvermediastudio So, a black man telling the truth about the history of this country is a racist?

[@silvermediastudio]

@@wendellspivey3747 He's a pig.

[@georgemckenzie1824]

@@silvermediastudio and youre still a dope. who has no idea what racism is...i hope youve learned in 3 years...but i doubt it...please explain how he is exploiting black people, or trying to cause division, by exploiting racial tensions in the country,...... dude youre so far off the mark, its doesnt even make sense..... i mean you make statements that infer that blacks somehow work against themselves, and keep themselves locked out of the dominant society.....as if you dont realize it was whites who locked blacks out, of a society blacks sacrificed greatly to help build, maintain and defend.......whites did this to italians, irish and the chinese........but realized the irish and italians were needed to help with the fight to keep blacks down, and admitted them..... youve got this racism thing wrong...anybody can be racist......including blacks....but racism, again (me and you have had this conversation, but to be fair it was after your made that comment) has to emanate from power.....power to affect all blacks...where they live...where they work.....what they are taught.....blacks have power, but seldom consolidate or galvanize it to affect others....especially against whites.....thats solely a white pathology.......holding down citizens, fellow countrymen, while confabulating a narrative that makes blacks somehow unworthy..... the have and the have nots in this country was clearly defined by color, by whites since day one....the only people exploiting blacks are not black..you dope......thats a part of the problem....all other races exploit there own race for commerce, except blacks.....thats where the disenfranchisement of blacks by whites plays in.....racisms true purpose is the disenfranchise and un-empowering of blacks......and its working great....and tana heesi has nothing to do with that...you re projecting your illness on others...you dont like him because his words feel like indictments to low self esteemed whites, like yourself...and thats because they are......you can not have privileges and advantages without somebody somewhere paying the toll for it..its was cool all these years to be a part of a system that is based on delusion and mal- adaptive behavior, that yielded benefits for your color, paid for a thousand times, by blacks........

[@georgemckenzie1824]

@@Calioceanbreeze dont pay him any mind...hes a seething racist who doesnt have the courage to say its what the speaker says he finds fault with, nor the substance or intelligence to dismantle his assertions...hes a troll or a russianbot......

[@fannieharris]

This is an important article, that young people today don't understand.

[@karlmarx809]

francesca harris Reparations will make things worse. Asking for more freedom or just _stuff_ from people that you hate will not make you a better people. Reparations won't give young black men the respect and worthy place in society that they crave. In fact, it will make things worse because it will be unearned. You have to earn respect. It's too late for black people in this country. They've been irrevocably infantilized by constant aplogizing and conciliation from mollycoddling white liberals.

[@Talltrees84]

Troy, what do you think about America making reparations to Japanese Americans and their families for internment in WWII? What about the German government and industry making reparations to Jewish victims of the Holocaust? I personal view on reparations to black Americans for slavery, Jim Crow, etc. will go a long way to making a moral statement but with so much wealth and businesses in the hands of non-blacks the money in reparations will land up in non-black hands.

[@charlieroper3987]

They understand it's pure BS.

[@georgemckenzie1824]

@@karlmarx809 dude backs are a part of this country....blacks contributed greatly to this countries wealth and well being...that money is not yours as in white people like you inferred...it belongs to us all....youre just afraid that at some point you will lose your privilege that you havent lived for one second without....face it...your government granted color benefit has about run its course, and sooner than later, youre greatest fears will be realized....youre all gonna have to start the race, at the same time, same track along with the same rules as blacks.... and how do you know what blacks crave? dopes like you just be saying any old thing just to try and discourage blacks..... and you mean earn things like your privilege? or earn respect like white did for obama....one of the most accomplished men on the planet bar none, and whites disrespected him, simply because he was black....whites dont respect blacks because they can not afford to, and maintain their privileged status....thats why they keep creating and spreading dogma to disparage the image of what whites think about all blacks..and mopes like you will blame the problem on some other whites..liberals, conservatives, dems or repubs are all run by rich white men..they are one and the same when it comes to white supremacy and maintaining status quo.... its easy and convenient to blame some other whites when you are clearly racist yourself, which makes you part and parcel of the problem..,... blacks have been disenfranchised and marginalized by white society....all whites play their part and stand against racial parity.....just look at the bs you wrote..it reads like some delusional tripe....all whites locked all blacks out of a society they helped build, finance, defend, and maintain, on purpose...to keep whites on an un-level playing field tipped in favor of whites.... you said it like blacks have to be accepted into the dominant society , in a country they sacrificed greatly to help build...none of you have a clue what you are talking about....you just spew misinformation and poorly constructed confabulation all meant to sustain racism....

[@wcc4269]

@@georgemckenzie1824 The way you just generalize all white people and all black people is gross. Maybe go watch MLKs speech again. Seems the only thing you care about is skin color.

[@donblosser8720]

The term slave has its origins in the word slav. The slavs, who inhabited a large part of Eastern Europe, were taken as slaves by the Muslims of Spain during the ninth century AD. So if your mental picture of a slave is a person of color, your knowledge of history is deficient. White people did not invent slavery, they ended it. Muslim nations, Arab and Turkish, have a wide-reaching and long term history of slave trading, largely ignored or excused. Muslim nations were the last to pass laws against slave trading (although they still engage in it in North Africa). Mauritania, officially the Islamic Republic of Mauritania, became the last country in the world to abolish slavery. Though slavery is technically illegal there, after being criminalized for the first time in 2007 and again in 2015, abolition is rarely enforced. Who is calling on Muslim nations to pay reparations? And what about the more powerful African tribes who were paid to round up those from other tribes? What do they owe? And, say, shouldn't the nation of Egypt pay sizable reparations to every Jewish person in the world as compensation for 400 years of enslavement? And should an American, whose parents or grandparents immigrated from some other country, be forced to pay reparations for actions that took place in America before they arrived here? By what logic? Should any other rubric for fairness be used? For example, should a 3rd generation American who is a low income worker, as his parents and grandparents were, be forced to pay reparations to a Black professional making $300,000 a year? Will any safeguards be in place to insure that reparations are not spent on drugs, gambling, etc.? Is the plan to actually help people or just write a check and assuage white guilt? What about Asians, Hispanics, Irish, Italians, etc. who have historically experienced racial prejudice and unjust discrimination? Is it fair that they be ignored? And wasn't LBJ's "Great Society" Welfare a form of reparations? A costly form as it has destroyed the Black family, around 70% of black babies being born to unmarried mothers. Will more free money enhance the dignity and well-being of African Americans in this country? The question is not whether slavery was and is a great evil, it is. The question is how to increase the earned income and the financial, emotional, and spiritual prosperity of every American.

[@mellodope8904]

Haiti freed itself so they ended slavery in the Americas. The 13th Amendment reinstated slavery in the U.S. Then there's debt peonage, wage theft, and human trafficking post 1865.

[@JackJones-o5g]

Reparation Reparations

[@daniferris980]

The problem with reparations is that it will not be enough. Any amount will be an insult for some. But let's be realistic here when we talk about reparations. Were talking about a practice that was legal but perpetrated by whites against blacks. Fast forward to today's society... How many companies and corporations have caused unfathomable amounts of harm to customers? When big pharma pushed opiates to make money off the sales of oxys and vicoden and what not who was liable for the damages? Big pharma. 30+ thousand overdose deaths a year. You can blame the govt or you can blame the people you cannot blame the people and then she the govt for not making the practice illegal. Big pharma pushed the mass prescribing of opiates. The govt allowed it to happen, it was completely legal and yet the families and those who suffered and died because of it don't sue the govt they sue the people. Clearly the only reason to go after the govt is to be able to get more money. For the descendants of slave owners you're looking at wealth that has for the most part vanished because the typical life span of generational wealth is only three generations. Going after the white descendants of slave owners would not be lucrative at all. They could go after all whites but unfortunately that would be hard to do since many white people didn't have an ancestor arrive till much later than slavery days. So now we have blacks wanting the govt to pay them for the actions of the slave owners. That's a completely irrational argument to make. You either sue and blame the govt or sue and blame the people. If you go after govt then stop blaming white people for your oppression simple as that. The other issue is that no one alive today would even have been handed down any of the wealth their ancestors may have accrued due to reparations being made to the slaves themselves. Why should they be given money they wouldn't realistically have had the luxury of spending if it relied upon inheritance. Now the last and final point to make about reparations is that there is no evidence that throwing money at the problems in the black community will fix anything all you will have is money that gets spent and you'll still have the illiteracy rates, the drop out rates, the single motherhood, homicide, gangs, crime, and absent father's. The main factor in the poverty of black communities today has nothing to do with slavery and everything to do with 75% of black babies being born to single moms. Period. Money won't fix some of the root causes to the problems plaguing these communities. A sincere effort to change the culture is the only thing that will do it. But in order to do that you have to accept the fact that every culture is flawed and some cultures flaws are different some are worse and some are not as bad. But regardless they have to change.

[@TecumsehsWeirdos]

Your argument is purely rooted in racism, man.

[@sievol]

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[@karlmarx809]

Ive seen him speak a couple of times. Does he actually explain what reparations would do for society?

[@tiffanyhooker5734]

Troy Barnes if in fact you have seen him speak a “couple of times” then you should have summoned the courage to ask him that question yourself.

[@charlieroper3987]

Nothing but heroes and geniuses here. Yeah, sure.

[@georgemckenzie1824]

Charlie roper- you have plenty of space to mount youre opposing views....did I miss them somewhere?

[@Daizetta]

2024 still waiting. Even if it's giving what amount is just?

[@c.rutherford]

This would never hold up in a court of law lol Its as if someone with black hair was robbed by someone with green eyes in 1850. And so you demand an apology and money from a green eyed person because you also have black hair : P

[@jcgoodman65]

The US makes home ownership unreachable to tens of millions....and such a big deal. This creates poverty out of thin air. The US could spend just half of the military budget and in ten years provide home ownership as reparations; as well as good paying jobs to build them. The US is a stupid country; allowing rent to be more expensive than mortgage payments; and then arming criminals....and yet they expect low crime? The US will continue to further decline and quite frankly, suck.... until housing is only 25% of income...like it was in the 1960's and early 70's.

[@c.rutherford]

Let me say as someone who has been a homeowner for 25 years, I can assure you that being one is no ticket to wealth lol. I still owe $50K on my mortgage, am making payments monthly and live hand to mouth. They'll probably tape the 'paid in full' title on my coffin, and then someone else will get the house. Oh and I get to pay for all the repairs property taxes and upkeep, including the new roof which was $8 grand, replacement furnace, plumbing bills and onward. Gotta place to live though! ;)

[@jcgoodman65]

@@c.rutherford I would suggest that you rent a room out to a single person and that would help both you and the renter....I was paying $750 for just a room...that is 9,000 a year = roof paid for...Fixed mtg pymnts don't go up year after year....and in the end you own it....Rents are more than MTG pymnts in most cases.....So, wealth is a state of mind....

[@AtenAkaAton1]

Well if you take the money that would be allocated in reparations and divide that up equally among a slaves current living descendants you're not really talking about a lot of money.

[@patrickanderson5241]

+patrick anderson sorry, this was not meant for you atenakaaton

[@AtenAkaAton1]

patrick anderson What? I could ultimately care less about reparations, I just don't think it'll matter much one way or the other. Wanting justice is nice and all but it's far too late to ever get that. There never was justice in life. You have a lot of problems with reparations, the slaves were promised one thing, but you divide that and you're left with very little. It's virtually mute, other than for principle.

[@yonisgure7348]

People have a weird view of reparations. It's not handing cash to people who are descendants of slaves. That would be, as you say, pointless and unnecessary and it wouldn't solve anything. It's about putting and investing money (government money) in areas that were directly affected by racial policies, that hitherto have ceased to feel the after effects. Coates gives the housing examples, where blacks were systematically targeted by real estate speculators, forcing them to take shoddy housing prices because they were denied mortgages because of the color of their skin which were later foreclosed, forever wrecking a community. Make no mistake, that was a racial policy and the only way that could be fixed is if reparations were paid to those specific communities (in Chicago, Louisiana, Mississippi and Carolina especially) to help rebuild what was stolen from. People talk about places were violence is rife in the US, but almost always, wherever you look those areas were one of the places specifically targeted. What I just said won't fix everything, but as the old dictum goes: "one needn't make the best the enemy of the good". Just because you can't fix it perfect doesn't mean that should stop you from trying to make things better.

[@couldbe8348]

I'm open to anything. However, I'm white, from the south, and my family suffered because of slavery. There was no work and they were extremely poor. I want some form of reparations as well.

[@tiffanyhooker5734]

Voltaire Voltaires you are white. That is your reparations. Have a seat.

[@Dc225_]

The difference is that your family came voluntarily

[@mateovncnt7411]

saagar the bigot from breaking points 2024 sent me here.

[@julesyuliana7504]

😢

[@JimyoVibration]

And I think I know why hi hi.

[@Pat9201]

who exactly pays for these reparations and why?

[@Pat9201]

+buzzin1975 white lives matter

[@Pat9201]

+buzzin1975 no reparations for you..get a job

[@Pat9201]

+buzzin1975 then there you go..you don't need reparations.:^)

[@byronwilliams7977]

America pays, you can't build an empire on the backs of a people, on stolen land, and turn around and shy away from paying restitution. There isn't anything new here in Coates' work, centuries of mistreatment.

[@Pat9201]

so assuming you are american that means YOU pay as well.

[@davidkillen2207]

Why? What’s the purpose…

[@andreibudaes3966]

No clue. Paying reparations would only cause every other group to consider moaning about getting paid for what their ancestors went through which is idiotic. It's not like it will fix any issue. Let's assume reparations are paid. Where is that money gonna come from? It will just raise people's taxes and just end up with them not being satisfied with the amount in the first place. Maybe the government should invest more in real education than entertaining an idiocratic notion

[@kathyskinner6119]

Every other group was not enslaved, and then murdered in mass during Apartheid America and then stripped of their rights.

[@NatashaStory-p6r]

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[@erikweinstein550]

I support reparations I also support unicorns delivering me a bucket of gold nuggets every morning. Unfortunately neither will ever happen

[@georgemckenzie1824]

erik weinstein- sounds like youre trying to convince yourself, and youre job is trying to convince blacks?...parrots like you say anything they heard...but the only problem is.... nobody takes anything they say, seriously...everyone knows they just re transmit what was transmitted to them...sorta like being handed your opinions.... the way i see it...its our already...the government was just holding it for safe keeping...LOL, and to use against blacks...youre type of thinking is on a one way trip doing top speed, down an alley, with a brick building at the end of it....only things is youre all so delusional, youll convince yourselves youre right, get mad at anyone who comes along with rationality, truth and logic, and stands against you.......like tanaheesi

[@mariobaldwin8041]

That's what they said the abolition of slavery and jim crow 😉

[@erikweinstein550]

@@mariobaldwin8041 reparations never gonna happen

[@erikweinstein550]

@@georgemckenzie1824 you are projecting. Reparations will never happen.

[@erikweinstein550]

@@georgemckenzie1824 I support reparations o also support unicorns delivering gold nuggets to my front door every morning. I m not mad. Ur projecting

[@donn6933]

Do you now have a sense of what the white man looks like? ...hahaha

[@midas12354783]

+Donavan Mcfadden Now that sounds racist. Course I could be mistaken....

[@midas12354783]

***** Are you so naive that you have to stutter and post your hateful bullshit twice all the time. Yeah racist and homophobic, but that's not the worst thing about you......

[@midas12354783]

***** Good for you, It's actually rare that both Ignorance and patheticness is Bliss. So kudos to you for achieving such a great egotistical feat.

[@georgemckenzie1824]

@@midas12354783 of course youre mistaken....blacks being racist towards whites is making comments in YT? all the racist acts that have been exacted on blacks, you think you can call someone black racist for only making comments pretty much proves you dont know Jack shit about racism....stop calling people racist that have been the only ones traditionally affected by it in this country....and find out what it actually means....please get yourself a working applicable definition of racism....

[@edithlong919]

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[@williamshook982]

How ingnorant do you have to be to think that you're getting five million dollars in reperations payments? Please don't be disappointed when you finally realize that you ain't getting shit, OK? 😮