Iowa - The Legend

[@Flamuu]

Yeah that 17:20 stuff is pretty filthy, but damn if it isn't effective when a French BB tries to nose in camp you. Thank you for the support! Stream: www.twitch.tv/flamuu Insta: instagram.com/flamugram/ Twitter: twitter.com/flamuchz Discord: discord.gg/Flamu

[@cake.]

At that point that Jean Bart should of went full French mode and surrendered

[@jozseftoth9368]

I did it two times when the French BBs came out, and i was grinding the Richelieu. Richelieu vs. Richelieu at 4 km, one salvo, both his turrets were dead. Felt so good. Since then, i did not do this

[@SonOfAB_tch2ndClass]

Hey Flamu Iowa's turning circle is bugged like Montana its closer to about 1000 meters

[@Warmaker01]

I pick apart FR BBs that way in a brawl, specifically the 4-gun turret 380mm armed ones. Those turrets get ripped apart. If not via hits to them, the barbette for the 2nd turret is very high, so if your AP doesn't find its way to smash into one of the 2 forward turrets, you can slip a shell in between them and penetrate the barbette. Gascogne & Republique are less vulnerable. Turret arrangement is mostly way. Gascogne has the same turrets as Richelieu, Alsace, JB, but you don't have that 2nd turret stacked high to get free hits on. Republique is arranged the same way as Gascogne, but Republique also sports thick turret faces, so she's more secure. But Richelieu, Jean Bart, Alsace, just smash those forward turrets with BB AP and you're gold. I learned this lesson when I got Richelieu as part of the pre-release event for the FR BB Line. I got into a

[@reybalan8442]

Flamu can you make a video of montana next time ? Please. And can you show what is the best upgrades and Captain skills for montana in current meta. Please.

[@NightSniper2]

1:31 “Your health pool isn’t very impressive... you beat the likes of the Americans” Errr... the Iowa is American Flamu

[@knightofavalon86]

Been using the Jingles captain too much XD

[@saekhmet4186]

Fake News!

[@Smartsins]

for a ship known for its gun accuracy and an aiming system far ahead of its time, it is very disappointing seeing how inaccurate the guns are :(

[@darthmalyn3231]

It’s the game not the actual ship

[@krisgrafili6780]

@@darthmalyn3231 You think so? Smartass

[@jarrusjenkins]

Vanguard has the same problem

[@mutualdecline2174]

I agree. I started playing again during the lockdown. Hadn't played since last yr. The new updates have completely changed the game & it was done in a worst way. I find the Iowa inaccurate & difficult to get citadel hits more then ever before

[@jarrusjenkins]

After seeing the stats on this ship, I'm really not that bothered about getting it or the Montana. I love the NC and I would of hoped that the play style would have continued up the tree but Iowa gets a much more rudder and less accuracy(concealment is still good) But then Monty with it's 22 second rudder and much worse concealment... really not interested since we have things like Ohio and Georgia available now for the Americans, and also things like Conqueror, Thunderer, Kremlin etc... Instead of doing a separate "dreadnaught" style bb split... I think they should have just reworked the current line a bit.

[@nathanhartanto2544]

8:56 "it's hard to citadel" 12:00 "it's easy to citadel"

[@jozseftoth9368]

It WAS easy to citadel. After the citadel buff, its quite hard to citadel

[@jozseftoth9368]

Just as you said. But heyy it was Minotaur levels of citadel punching bag before they lowered it. Also, i just figured out what Flamu wanted to tell us about the shape of the bow around the front turrets, which is a weakness when the ship is angled enough to use the back gun. Esp. against the improved pen angles of U. S. shells. The ship also sits quite low in the water, making it hard to hit the side at range

[@wahyukuncoro8526]

It's hard to citadel for anyone who dont know Its easy to citadel for anyone who know

[@BPKPhoenix]

Fun Fact of the dark times: The current armor layout of the Iowa-class is actually buffed from when this ship was released. This ship's armor was realistic and fairly authentic to the real Iowa-class but in practice in this game with its mechanics, the armor was enough to make many of the heavy cruisers blush. If you gave even a tiny bit of skirt in the Iowa and as Flamu detailed in its armor layout that if you show a bit too much during bow on engagements, you actually show more than you perceptually think. The citadel was very high back then and the likes of Zao with their 203mm guns could literally score 10-12 citadels in a single volley provided their close enough. Even if heavy cruisers and dare I say even smaller caliber guns couldn't get juicy citadels, provided they're close to Iowa, they could farm some serious damage with full pens which made Iowa captains sit a lot further back if they had any sense to avoid crossfires of any description and unlike most ships where they angle to about 20-35 degrees to get their rear turret firing, you'd find Iowa captains literally go nose to nose against everything, even heavy cruisers. The buff was definitely needed though since you could get doinked from even more stupider angles than the Yamato, angles that make your brain twist and curl in confusion as you see your precious 72k health brick to 20 in no time, so be glad it ain't like the old times. Then again most people already know this so I probably just wasted 4 minutes of your time.

[@thelvadam2884]

Amen

[@leonardhofstadter8008]

@@thelvadam2884 Didn't actually know that, thanks, man

[@LuisGonzalez-dx2cy]

The Majestic Phoenix yup I was citadel by a Pensacola on one of my first battles in the Iowa

[@BPKPhoenix]

Ah yes, the good ol' days when the Pepsican used to be a Tier 7 Heavy Cruiser, getting blapped by everything, damn good times XD

[@TrickyClaw]

Thats pretty well how I play, bow it to everything...

[@RobzThe8th]

Making the Jean Bart historically accurate

[@elit3uranium_playz399]

You sir, are underated.... You know your history

[@SaltySaiyan98]

All I learned from this just reaffirmed my experience with Iowa. Sit back, snipe, and do nothing because you’ve got pre-buff German BB accuracy. Or you can get closer, get focused, and do nothing because you die in 5 seconds. Real great ship, thanks WG.

[@fenrur26]

yes.

[@reaperking2121]

Nope wrong. Honestly The Iowas Accuracy is insane I have no problem destroying larger ships at long range. But if thats not your playstyle then I get it that.

[@godzefkiel2686]

@@reaperking2121 they are so easy to kill that's why people target it easy cit no problem and with yamato and musashi that are even better at sniping musashi less so they out class the iowa it's shit

[@kxngsouvik]

Iowa is just hype....i grinded till iowa and the moment I got it pretty much u are always running from others else u will rekt...the accuracy is not that good....the shells don't feel like that they are hitting....the AA is fine......this ship is more of a top catcher....so long and soft armour

[@The_MightyJingles]

OMG first!!!111shifteleven!!

[@Flamuu]

Not you too old man!

[@zhaeg0n]

oh greetings our great gnome overlord

[@thebudgieadmiral5140]

Hey! Wait, does that mean I am early??

[@dfadgsadfga1816]

okay boomer

[@proximacentauri3627]

*Senile British chad colonizing everything in sight like a mad lad*

[@angel.angelov]

Lol that enemy Iowa raging in all chat

[@Flamuu]

What does he say out of curiosity? They threw that game pretty hard pressing into our spawn.

[@NuclearPrawn]

@@Flamuu well basically he yells that you're an "HE autist" and that because of your kind "the game went to shit" while your own teammates complain that you've stayed behind the whole game and got high caliber (somehow that's a bad thing?). Total shitshow

[@mangatom192]

@@NuclearPrawn Hahaha, both sides being salty af.

[@GlebRysanov]

@@NuclearPrawn, exactly :) I'm sure these whiners ended up being sure that their team (the 'herd,' as they put it) won the game thanks solely to their directions.

[@Oberkaptain]

Flamuu only shot like 6 HE volleys all game and 3 of those were against DDs...

[@minyaw1234]

I remember the time this ship's superstructure had a bug and got saturated after only 5000 damage. It was the tankiest ship during that time, and it somehow took several weeks to fix it.

[@oppaiomanko]

Nowadays Smolensk has been the tankiest ship in the game for much longer with no signs of anything changing... Until the next seekrit stalin dokuments are found tovarisch)))

[@EliteGeeks]

I went to the IOWA museum last month, it is an experience you ever forget.

[@ecpcharles]

*both jean bart turrets break* I felt that pain

[@paccin339]

Casablanca flashbacks

[@rocknrollbob7199]

"Battleship Torpedo" cracked me up.

[@Matt_trues]

2:17 in real life people were really saying btw this is true people said the Iowa might be able to out turn a fletcher in real life I think the turning radius is like 600 or 700 meters

[@nishanths538]

I remember an Iowa game of mine about a year ago, now that we are talking about turrets. 5 mins into the game I face some long range fire from 3 BBS (prolly 12-15km) the next minute, my 1st turret breaks straight away. Another minute later my 3rd turret dies. Then I’m stuck with one middle turret and lasted thru the entire battle doing some 60k damage and getting a dreadnaught and shit.

[@АртемРубец-и2к]

Жиза

[@ggkavlos]

So Toxic gameplay against the JB 😉😂😉😂😉😂

[@wasupholskt9923]

I just got Iowa few min ago so I find a guide in youtube and found your channel. WOW this is absolutely useful i like your clip and already subscribe keep doing guys.

[@leo19981116]

Flamu: Iowa already achieved 23.3km range without plane at T9, Impressive Hey, Flamu. Did you forget a ship that you featured last week named Richelieu? =]

[@victorvondoom4869]

Richelieu has 380mm guns, so at max range if the pen value is not a lot, accuracy is a bit wonky too

[@travelwell8098]

I wish I had watched this video BEFORE I equipped my Iowa... changes coming up! Thank you for the video!

[@erlienfrommars]

I pulled the very same stunt you did on that JB using my Iowa, spanked all his guns initially, Then pummeled him with HE after they got knocked out and he speedboosted to turn his ship into a torpedo but thanks to Iowa's speed it never managed to catch up and burned to death XD.

[@WyvernApalis]

Flamu, look at the armour profile in front of the second turret. See that 19mm box? Anything with enough pen hitting that bow on will get citadelled. As long as the range is enough that the shell flies over the first turret and pens the tiny (huge) box,

[@WyvernApalis]

It's gonna be a citadel. Aim for that (do some in training room, you'll be surprised)

[@thomas.02]

You mean the conning tower of the Iowa?

[@samparsons404]

Your videos got me into world of warships! Keep up the great and informative videos!! - a happy subscriber:)

[@angrysquirrel8816]

I mean.... historically the Iowa's guns could punch right through the Yamato's turret fronts at about 15km. Good thing the Japanese had an extra one lying around from one of the unfinished ships for us to play with.

[@bobbyspongka]

No it could not, the faceplate from shinano was at 0 deg angle and point blank range, the tests revealed that the faceplate at original angle was the only armour immune to any naval gun used.

[@TrickyClaw]

Love my Iowa despite not being good with her... Just took my son with me to the Anchors Away gathering.

[@TNKHART]

I'm taking my son in February to see the Iowa. I'm also about to get. Still love my NC.

[@TrickyClaw]

@@TNKHART its a cool self tour! Also, mind your head, Im not tall but still managed to hit my head on beams a few times.

[@TNKHART]

Cool. Thanks for the "heads up"

[@agoogleuseranonymous2658]

Wow thanks for showing that weakness on JB. I encounter so many noobs camping in that ship and wasn't too sure of what to do.

[@nickzaytz5712]

So, it's iffy? I guess it's iffy... but it's not certain... I mean - iffy

[@mobiuszero1018]

So,The Iowa is still a strong/viable ship then? That's great! And would you say that now is a good time to get into WoWS? I've been on the fence for months!

[@anubhavdassarma7230]

Iowa: has one of the best ranges at late tier Richeliu, Alsace: cough......cou..gh....cough.......cough Me: confused screams

[@warc8us]

The Iowa class should get more love in WoWS...They were among the last BBs built in history, and were the last BBs operating - USS Wisconsin (which should be a Premium!) was not decommissioned until 1991, and remained in the US Naval Reserve fleet until 2006!! By the 1980s they were rocking anti-missile systems, anti-ship missiles, UAV's, and land attack cruise missiles in its armament. They were even equipped to fire nuclear shells. A good argument could be made that a variant of the Iowa class ships like the Missouri or Wisconsin should be the most powerful ships available in WoWS.

[@PorscheRacer14]

I remember when people wouldn't go past this line because the Montana felt like a nerf back in the day. Then they did a bunch of fixes and tweaks on Montana but I still liked going back to the Iowa even with a loss of a turret since it still handled a bit better than that fat Montana. It's in that line of old but fair ships like the Yamato. It has strengths but has weakness like squishy armour and citadel. As long as you don't sit back all game sniping with it, it can be fun to move in taking risks for potential rewards. No gimmicks, just a fair ship to play with and against. If you get sunk by an Iowa in game you can say it was because of some special ability or gimmick or crazy papership design. Conversely, when you do well in the Iowa, you feel like you earned it and you didn't cheese it with gimmicks and the such previously mentioned. I know it's hard to make basic ships like these appealing when you want to put new ships in the game or make them premium and such, but I do have respect for the original IJN and USN lines that were just fair ships, no fluff. *P.S. Also, pronunced "Haul-see" :)

[@ZaffaPlaysGames]

I like how Iowa's turret-sniping is basically my usual tactics in CA-vs-CA fights writ large, tactics i would absolutely recommend when brawling other cruisers in any CA. Especially against Des Moines (super squishy turrets, no torpedoes) or any japanese cruiser (squishy turrets, bad torpedo angles make them give you citadels in a gift-wrapped box). Completely defanging another player if you have the accuracy and penetration to do it will never stop being funny.

[@MZzz-cg4rt]

Apogee try doing that against my preventive maintenance Des Moines

[@ZaffaPlaysGames]

@@MZzz-cg4rt Most cruiser captains run preventive maintenance (i do on all my cruisers, light or heavy, and really most of my ships period) so it's a bit of a wash. Des Moines is great at nose-in brawls against other cruisers (and even 15"-gunned battleships like alsace), but even with PM, turret survivability is a problem for it. When I'm playing mine and a cruiser brawl happens i pretty much always target the enemy's weapons first if I can't go for citadels for precisely that reason.

[@jeffbergstrom]

Mentioned was the lack of maneuverability in the Iowa because it is so long. I know this is a game and they balance as they see fit but, interestingly, the reason for long ships is speed. Ships that don't plane (like speedboats that rise out of the water and run on top of it) and sit in the water are limited in their top speed by the wavelength of the water passing around it (think the ship's wake). The longer the boat the longer the wavelength. The longer the wavelength the faster the ship can go. So...longer ship = faster ship. Shorter = more maneuverable but less fast. As with so many things it is a design choice on what you want the ship to do. Better in one thing, less good in another. Always a give-and-take. Note that shorter ships can overcome the limitation with enough power but it takes a LOT more power to push past that limitation...I think tug boats are noted for being able to do this since they have gobs of power for such (relatively) little boats.

[@Peter-bakker]

honestly I cant find my self in how flamu describe the Iowa

[@mutualdecline2174]

I started playing this during the lockdown. Hadn't played since last fall. I realize that the updates have made the Iowa weaker in terms of bow armor & I had incredible difficulty scoring any citadel hits against broadside showing Cruisers & battleships.

[@TheExecutorr]

2:36 that's a Yamato of culture over there!

[@jamescooper7878]

right in the cheeks XD XD

[@TheExecutorr]

@@jamescooper7878 hey, I never said he was any good xD just that he's cultured :D

[@jamescooper7878]

@@TheExecutorr i know XD

[@TheExecutorr]

@@jamescooper7878 I still can't figure out what he was trying to achieve, standing still while giving that much broadside to an Iowa. Probably he thought Flamuu can only see him when he moves xD

[@mattmac4087]

Listening to certain Slipknot album while playing this ship gives you 666% enjoyment boost. Without it you're 555

[@christianjohnson9190]

There was this time in my Iowa where I was playing on the Estuary map and I went down the flank where C point is and went up and into B where I faced an angled battleship and eventually destroy it. Going towards A, I fired at the Russian Battleship and destroyed it to. I kept on pushing forward and ran into a bunch of cruisers. Killed Belfast while trying to run away, I went over to a smoke screen and killed 1 more cruiser. The flint decided to ram me (getting a kraken) The funny part is that both my and the other team thought that I was raging, while I was laughing my head off. We won with the Graf Zeppelin killing a dad rushing towards him So sad that I didn’t record because I was learning Iowa at the time

[@seanblo2094]

Hey flamo.i have a question for you. What application do you record the game??

[@pieterjan81]

Old but still gold 👌

[@jamespfp]

0:52 -- Since you're pointing out the range of the main battery fire, it is probably worth drawing extra attention to the minimap, *AND* also mentioning the normal sizes of the maps, which start at 24x24 kilometers.

[@jamespfp]

RE: Maps, 24 x 24; 30 x 30; 36 x 36; 42 x 42; 48 x 48.

[@UNSCrearadmiral]

Only would like to see some reviews on lower tier ships, however i also understand how difficult that can be given tier IV matchmaking with the triple CV games

[@leoproz274]

Hello people on the internet at 3:51 AM (my place)

[@KES33615]

Thank you for this video. How is the Montana holding up? Could you do a current review on that ship?

[@flyingphoenix113]

Ah, yes. The old USS Powercreep.

[@Phineas_Freak]

Did you know that Stalin was born in Georgia? No wonder it puts all other Us bbs to shame

[@terribleteddy]

I'm really happy about your increased uploads. Sadly I can't subscribe more than once. So I will comment and like instead

[@Neneset]

It seems to me that Iowa plays relatively similar to Hood. Both using speed to engage and disengage, and strongest kiting away.

[@Cobra-King3]

only 1 problem, Turret 2's firing arcs are shit

[@Lancista]

This video reminds me why I've stop playing PvP Modes! "Iowa is not good brawer" Hmmm...for 5 years she still hold my potential damage record among all my battleships (very much all of them)

[@augustussohn893]

I just got this and it’s stock. It’s also expensive, even running premium. What should I upgrade first?

[@lukk4123]

Hey Flamu, I have both Halsey and John Doe (previously Steven Seagal (The latter being trained for BBs)). Currently Halsey's sitting on my Wooster (terrible choice, I know, but I lacked a capt for USS CLs when I got him, so I figured why not), and was gonna transfer him to Des Moines to actually make use of his perks and use John Doe for Montana and Missouri instead, thoughts?

[@thomas.02]

Not-a-unicum speaking here, perhaps it’s easier for BBs to get confederate because bbs deal significant damage per shot and are opportunistic in target choice (who is giving most broadside at any moment) so may take advantage of Halsey’s skills more

[@restarting_krnl]

From T8, American BB and CA gets superheavy AP shells which has improved pen angles

[@estoyaqui5386]

4:02 well, someone with my aim should run reload-mod :P Jokes aside, i do run the dispersion-mod, like everyone else i know who has Iowa/Mo.

[@estoyaqui5386]

The Russian chat is gold xD I am so happy that i learned the letters and (a bit of) the language.

[@DragonComa]

now that they nerfed the AA mod 1 again, what would you recommend running in slot 3 now?

[@monarchy-5623]

The turrets on the Iowa is also as likely broken as the JB.

[@andrewmason9137]

@12:15 there is a truck driving on the island.. Never noticed that before.

[@christianjohnson9190]

Also the map Tears of the desert, it looks like a snowman’s face Someone pointed that out and everyone exploded over that fact

[@Snagabott]

I'm fairly certain it's wrong that you lose a turret by having it hit when already damaged. The only way to knock them out is to take all of their HP. WG doesn't disclose what those values are, but they tend to vary between 20k and 40k per turret.

[@epicnoob8635]

1:25 "you beat the likes of the Americans" - Iowa, an american ship :)

[@barbatoslupusrex8712]

I had a game in my Alabama that I got 105k dmg done, but I tanked 2million dmg. It wasn’t anything special for me doing damage, but I held a flank down on my own by tanking 2 million which was pretty awesome.

[@nicodede62]

5mn, 3 destroyers down, potatoes land !

[@Nick-tm2sw]

At about 9:00 you mention it is hard to citadel. Then at about 11:30 you state that it is easy to citadel. So does that mean its easy to citadel or not easy to citadel. Or do they cancel out to mean its an average chance of being citadeled?

[@zenjameo]

Such a fun watching IN-game comments )) I`m russian , that`s why I understand. One of them calling Flamu "HE Autist" and hiding behind others backs. People stupidity is increadable, they still don`t understand different ships have different roles in battle )) And they say game is dieing because of such players as Flamu. WOW ))) What is wrong with people? )

[@kaalen24]

The Jean Bart got really friendly after you neutered him. He wanted to come and give you a kiss :P

[@elin0s]

Could you cover Monarch please :)

[@mahashana1227]

any suggestions on how to play with colorado

[@edwinlai]

Flamuu- The Legend

[@ruslanmuratov6684]

15:00 those russian guys are really going at you lol

[@SylarGKIW]

Hardly worth raging, cuz i'm a Russian too and i don't understand why Russians are toxic about it. It's just skills and experience, nothing more.

[@SylarGKIW]

@@umbrella.russian.division-316 Либо ты принимаешь поражение и ищешь в этом ошибки. Либо жалуешься на поражение. Ничего иного нет.

[@limmn3658]

Thanks, man.

[@nuntius099]

I wish the IOWA was historic in game. I'd like to see a BB turn like a destroyer.

[@josh_jc_cheng]

RIP CVs then

[@nuntius099]

@@josh_jc_cheng the rudder shift time can remain the same or worst to equalize it.

[@Acidburn3141]

Iowa’s health pool IS AMAZING it has like a total of 200k health after using all 5 heals Iowa IS NOT a challenging ship to play it’s an EASY ship to play, rudder shift is not clumsy, not a lot of people like shooting Iowa since it’s hard to get pens on her, this dude legit has no idea what he is talking about!!!!

[@mrtencza]

I find NC, Alabama, and Massachusetts have an easier time bow tanking than this boat. Maybe it's because of the shorter nose, and the cheeks aren't quite as pronounced like on Iowa/Missouri.

[@reybalan8442]

Flamu can you make a video of montana next time ? Please. And can you show what is the best upgrades and Captain skills for montana in current meta. Please.

[@samuelwong4152]

Just unlocked Iowa, damn it’s awesome. It’s so much better than NC in so many levels….

[@FollowUrHeart]

Do you think Iowa need a buff? She sacrifices her armor so she must have a better maneuverability than this.

[@supercustodiam2197]

Georgia has speed boost. Why not give Iowa speed boost?

[@Just_A_Random_Desk]

@@supercustodiam2197 georgia = premium WG only cares about premiums because thats how they make money

[@DerryTomato]

Got to say. For me personally. Iowa was the one and only ship in the US BB line(not counting t3) that I truly hated. I liked NM and Colorado, absolutely loved Nc and Montana is good, but this ship, just couldn't get it to work, accuracy seemed so bad. For me personally, would rather take NC or Massa to tier10 game than this thing.

[@medo4945]

Oldest??? I was playing when Missouri was tier10 battleship but unfortunately I lost that acc😔😭

[@thomas.02]

Wait you mentioned Iowa is hard to citadel at around 9 mins but then you said Iowa can be easily/predictably citadelled, am I getting something wrong?

[@ReachForTheSky]

It's hard to citadel at around 10km or less because it's waterline

[@basileus9343]

Atago *wink review *wink

[@josefanon8504]

today i learned: iowa is iffy

[@andrew3870ify]

DD-Iowa(capping)

[@EA-History]

Sovetsky Soyuz can confidently knock out Iowas turrets, i killed both front turrets in a brawl. Caused some salt for some reason.

[@nelsoncheng2674]

Montana and Yamato commentary please :)

[@itsmebatman]

It kinda sucks that you have to play battleships like this so passively in this game. It also sucks, that basically every premium ship is better than the Iowa now. Even the former AA glory is mostly useless these days. Iowa has been power-crept thoroughly.

[@seppmaler8434]

This is one of the examples from which new bb players learn how to play: Stay at max range and snipe. 22k on Neptun..... 20k on DM. The problem is they arent Flamu.

[@glencaddell5991]

Good

[@DanielLopez-up6os]

The Iowa is Great it's 50/50 for between it and the Georgia.

[@andrew3870ify]

My good old iowa Detonated in first ride and 3rd ride.... Always use Deto flag on Iowa as hell

[@hollyrussian6337]

Господи, как же оскорбили бедного финна. Больше шума подняли.

[@Азат-ю3в]

Хайп 😁

[@АртемРубец-и2к]

Ты с канобу?

[@mrking5323]

Сума сойти, 224к как с куста, М-да тима конечно не адекватная, чат вообще просто топ))

[@Young_as_Lenin]

офигел, когда они повесили на него ярлык "фугасный аутист", когда он всего два раза за бой фугасом по эсму кинул))

[@stuglifetankdestroyer6010]

@@Young_as_Lenin ЛК у нас,судя по логике,выкидывают ОФ нахуй и все.

[@ultimabasti-oceanspud9641]

WG has shit on this ship. This is considered by naval historians as the greatest battleship in history. In game, it's now more of a joke. Then again, if it doesn't un on Vodka, and it doesn't fire imaginary Stalinium shells, it's just cannon fodder to Russian balans.

[@LunaticLethal]

here is a idea for torps that miss their targets ,, give us a self destruct button ...

[@eiresby2344]

yeah, iowa still awesome

[@jamesj9348]

Нормально он сыграл, не слился в самом начале, повезло конечно немного, но в целом норм бой

[@bigsmoke3173]

I loved the Iowa, my most favorite BB in game. I have an avg dmg of 88k with her. Unfortunately I bought the Montana, I absolutely regret this move. I don't really like the monty, I would prefer playing in tier X only with my Iowa rather than the thick fat ass montana..

[@rolandoeduard6254]

need featuring the Missouri its been a long tine not seen the Missouri :)

[@hiro9253]

it used to be my fav ship but now its not, theres just too many better ships at tier 9

[@zren.]

Gut. Zer gut.

[@khobybryantvillasen]

so much fuego

[@doodledibob]

The main question for me: Why should I ever bother playing Iowa when I have Missouri?

[@RPGTKingpin]

Missouri can't be used to unlock Montana. Well, it can, if you're willing to use cash to convert the XP into FXP. But who has the money to waste on that? ;)

[@doodledibob]

@@RPGTKingpin You assume I don't already have Montana. And that's a bit besides the point. Ship balance should never take tech tree progression into consideration for justifying nerfs or buffs. A ship should solely be balanced for its power level at its tier, not for its relation with regards to tech tree progression. The point here is that Missouri is just better than Iowa and you should never chose an Iowa over it if you have both.

[@RPGTKingpin]

@@doodledibob Naturally. I would probably balance Iowa/Missouri the way Tirpitz/Bismarck are balanced. Give one radar, give the other...I dunno, better concealment? Better AA? Better manoeuvrability? Long duration hydro, perhaps, so one is an offensive ship and the other is defensive? I dunno. It's questionable. But then, so is most of what WG has been doing with the game lately. About the only solid decision I've seen recently is the upcoming German dispersion buff.

[@doodledibob]

@@RPGTKingpin Iowa used to have somewhat appreciably more potent AA than Missouri... not much but something. With AA being nerfed across the board, this is no longer the case. I'm not quite sure what I would do to help make her more relevant. But she needs something. Powercreep, especially with the new Russian ships, has been insane.

[@RPGTKingpin]

@@doodledibob The Russian ships have powercreeped everything. I've been suffering in the German BBs and CAs for a while now [thank goodness for the upcoming dispersion buff. It's a promising start]. The BBs were always mediocre but are presently terrible because the Russians just do it better. Meanwhile, Kremlin and the other 430+mm gun BBs have made trying to play a German cruiser in 2019 absolute hell. At first it was just Yamato. You saw a few of them in play and that was fine because it traded off that enormous pen for things like positional versatility and close range capability so people went GK/Montana more often. But then came Musashi. We started seeing a lot of them in play once people realised they could effectively use a Yamato against T7s. But even that was fine because it disappeared after a while and people couldn't get it conventionally anymore. Where the problems REALLY started was with the likes of Conqueror and Republique, but each had their problems; the former was just more effective with the smaller guns so nobody ran the 457s [which eventually got removed anyway], and the Republique at least occasionally tended to have crap dispersion [though the reload coupled with the ship's ridiculous speed meant that playing the T8-10 German cruisers on the same flank as an enemy Republique was almost always a bad idea unless you had a competent BB to keep it from running you down]. Now there's Georgia, Ohio, Thunderer and Kremlin as well, and collectively those ships make up the vast majority of the T9-10 BB population. They're just too effective against the cruisers. I can't blame the BB players for using them, but WG seriously fucked up by introducing them. Previously, the game rewarded angling and intelligent play in a cruiser, German or otherwise. Now it seems we just get punished for *existing.* Our AA is no longer capable of protecting us from the CV trying to drop us. Our armour is no longer sufficient to avoid being totally overmatched on anything that isn't a mid range heavily angled hit to the belt armour, our firepower is being rendered utterly obsolete by the likes of Colbert, Worcester and Smolensk within our own class, and by the likes of Harugumo and Kitakaze within the class we're supposedly designed to hunt.

[@linadnero7350]

Почитал то, как общались в чате боя и понял, не зря я отключил его ;)

[@dmitriyhollden641]

Люди просто на столько озлобленны на других игроков (причем в основном из за своих кривых рук), что опускаются до уровня быдла (хотя наверно они выше этого уровня и не поднимались). И комменты то они пишут только когда их сольют, а иначе некогда, надо же изображать вид, что сражаются ))). Правильно, что чат отключил. Нафиг этот поток грязи, мы ведь играть пришли а не грязь хавать. Правильно?

[@jopaxyi7584]

@@dmitriyhollden641 Играя в танки или этот морской бой - уже невольно становишься поедателем какашек в 2019 году..Хуже только варфейс и дота с кс..В последних двух так вообще можно море новых матов узнать и обрести по 3 или 4 мамы на семью

[@dmitriyhollden641]

@@jopaxyi7584 Я в Тундру играю. Вроде нет такого неадекватного общения в чате.

[@zwen3763]

I like the NC 100 times more than the Iowa. Its more accurate than the Iowa with the accuracy upgrade.

[@achimhanischdorfer3403]

To get to Montana, you HAVE to play Iowa.

[@pewterschmidt23lord99]

Yes ironically enough i found missouri/iowa guns to be horrible for me while nc or even the other 2 tier8s are glorious