Ip Man + Wong Shun Leung - Siu Nim Tao (Side-by-Side Comparison)

[@danielrockmyer949]

That was awesome! I just came across this video and historically is so valuable. And the realness of showing the traditional form is just amazing. Thanks for posting! 👊

[@fabiandee8178]

'realness'? xD you mean 'reality'?

[@antarshakti3093]

Excellent comparison video of Great Sifus. Wong Sheung Leung was also the Wing Chun teacher of legend Bruce Lee. 🙏

[@ricardocastillo5485]

This series on SNT is very interesting to me because I learned it in four VERY different ways over the years. I first learned it watching Augustine Fong VHS tapes from Panther Productions in the 90's. Then again at a Jeet Kune Do academy I attended in NJ where they clearly did not respect the form enough to teach it properly, and it was lumped together into a junkpile with a bunch of other things. Then I spent 4 months with a guy of the William Cheung lineage. Then a decade long break, then I learned it separately from two different guys of the Moy Yat lineage who were both very good and taught it exactly the same. I've been doing it the Moy Yat way for almost a decade now. I don't consider any way "wrong" except the JKD school, and only because they had no real interest in it, but I like the Moy Yat guys the best because they took the time to dissect the shit out of it and never stop till every internal detail was to their satisfaction. In fact, to this day they still "correct" me on it.

[@sifuadamwilliss]

Thanks for sharing. I’m actually working on Yip Man/Moy Yat now. And yes… it’s the details that matter most!

[@danyolooy]

Really insightful a journey! Can definitely relate with the pearls found in the details. What was the name of the JKD academy, if I may ask?

[@فروخ-ن3د]

Brother, I have a question. Can you answer?

[@antarshakti3093]

🙏

[@Nekowrld.official]

It wasnt nmjkd was it?

[@tabletsam5624]

The king of talking Hands. True good old Ving Tsun bare knuckle. No one was able to beat that man. Best of the best. He always gave them what they had to. Knick out to every fighter. Wong over 800 Fights Won. Was like Gerd Müller of Football. He ever Won, was unbeatabele..

[@teodorodecastillo1597]

Just Beautiful !

[@moreflamenco]

Ip man was amazing Leon Wong produced Bruce Lee under the tutorship of ip man THANKS ❤

[@isaidyouliar]

At the first x guard move, yip man left arm is at the front, but the man in black left arm is at the back

[@evaristonsilva4609]

Muito bom gostei muito

[@SifuLoukasKastrounis]

Very good editing 👌 👍

[@brianproulx6559]

Adam, nice! I hope you are doing well, as well as your school.

[@augustoneto8746]

Muito bom

[@wingchun-simplekungfu7584]

These side by side comparisons are great. The only master that appears to be way off the track is William Chung. Even his wooden dummy form seems to come from somewhere else ? Although he apparently did learn under Chu Shong Tin for a year or 2 ( Tsui Sheung Tin ) while at Ip Man’s school

[@japantwc]

There’s nothing like learn from Chu Sheung Tin is just as his Sihing teaches younger William some basic SLT only and William Was taught by Ip Man and took tradition pics standing right side of Ip Man( mean finish the whole system ) that’s why the only Master whom came from Ip Man have different traditions skills than the rest of Ip Man Disciples

[@wingchun-simplekungfu7584]

@@japantwc 😂 Williams account of what he learnt from Ip Man is not true. He started when he was only 15 years old and moved to Australia when he was 18 years old. CST was his teacher. Io Man was the master of the school. William didn’t learn very much of anything apart from basic positions .

[@japantwc]

@@wingchun-simplekungfu7584 if you been to Ip Man museum in foshan you will see his biography he start date with Ip Man was 1951 when he was 10 or 11

[@japantwc]

@@wingchun-simplekungfu7584 CST will never be William teacher and only his Sihing coz the only real teacher was Ip Man

[@japantwc]

@@wingchun-simplekungfu7584 if you said Ip Man was Master in the school you already tell the answer. In HK, there calls as 授業師兄、as someone instead of Ip Man help teaches the 同門師兄弟、so CST was same as assistant instructors of Ip Man only not the teacher of William for sure. Coz William was CST Sidai not his students but Ip Man disciples then yes.

[@bongothom]

As a newbie to WIng Chun, this actually confuses me. Is there a 'correct' version or can anybody change the form as they desire? Wouldn't everyone who claims the Ip Man lineage do it the way he did....especially since there is a video reference?

[@sifuadamwilliss]

Good question. The forms constantly evolve based upon each sifu’s understanding. development. We shouldn’t follow in the exact movements of Yip Man, we should seek what he sought. So my best advice is to follow one person until you get really good.

[@bongothom]

@@sifuadamwilliss First, thank you very much for responding to my question. I wasn't really expecting that :) Secondly, "seek what he sought" is a wonderful answer. I will indeed follow my sifu. Thank you

[@VersatyleMusicGroup]

Hey there. There's a few different ways yipman taught it which did change over time and even he made modifications over time as his knowledge and fighting experience developed over his lifetime. So they best advice would be to do alot of research and learn about the different lineages of wing chun and see how they look and decide to go with the one you feel best resonates with you. And dedicate yourself to learning that version because there are several different versions that have slight differences, methods and interpretations. I learned wsl/yipman. And my form looks exactly like what wsl taught. So that would be my advice to you on starting out and how to decide on what way or version to learn.

[@bongothom]

​@@VersatyleMusicGroupthanks for your insights, I appreciate all the knowledge and perspectives that I can get

[@corkystorky]

As a newbie I suggest you follow the original, Yip Man, he should always be your point of reference, only then you can consult the later masters of their modifications, and see what you shall adapt, if you wish to.

[@jessel.3846]

this is really cool. I know nothing. Was just really curious what is the purpose of these movements ?

[@SifuLoukasKastrounis]

If you will practice wing chun with a good teacher you will understand better . And I m say that in the most humble way

[@فروخ-ن3د]

​@@SifuLoukasKastrounisMy brother, I have a question: Do you punch in Wing Chun with your fists at the level of your shoulder or your nose? Ip Man's fist is at the level of his nose, but the other's is not

[@SifuLoukasKastrounis]

Thank you for asking, from the angle of the chest level to the noise Hope that helps 👍

[@فروخ-ن3د]

@@SifuLoukasKastrounis thanks

[@SifuLoukasKastrounis]

@@فروخ-ن3د you welcome sir 🙏