iPadOS is Too Predictable...

[@TailosiveTech]

MAJOR CORRECTION: iPadOS 17 will support external webcams in 3rd party apps in a later update. Confirmed from one of Apple's workshops at WWDC23. Was on the fence about posting this video, but ultimately decided a lot of the criticism was still valid, although I'm very grateful it's not as bad as I thought when I made this!

[@perrydecosmo7795]

Love it

[@perrydecosmo7795]

You should do a video explaining which leaks were right and which leaks were wrong when talking about the Apple “Reality Pro” headset, maybe bring up the different patents that they filed and the sketch from 4 years ago

[@AtPlume]

You know, for as much of a meme the lack of a calculator app on the iPad is… it really tells the whole story.

[@気にしない-o8q]

nailed it ❤

[@andyH_England]

We all have iPads in our family over ten, and no one has ever complained about not having a native calculator app. As Apple said, devs have great calc apps, and there is no point upsetting devs by including an inferior system calc. Anyway, it is 2023, and a calc app is now old news; AI is what we should use for calculations.

[@techinrl9869]

People always need something to complain about. Why no weather app? Why no multitasking? Why no Files app? Why no widgets? Why no interactive widgets? Why no Final Cut Pro? Why no external monitor display support? Apple puts in the features and people find something else to complain about. In reality nobody gives a rat’s rear about a calculator app. If and when Apple releases one, I’ll bet they’ll find something else to hate on.

[@y.__.y--]

@@techinrl9869 Exactly. They all care about what’s not there and what the iPad isn’t.

[@AtPlume]

@@techinrl9869 The calculator is one of the most basic features ever. I don't care that you can get a third party. It shouldn't be an event when the iPad gets some of the most basic features ever. But it is. Apple keeps proping this thing as a computer but keeps on limiting it. Artificially crippling it because they don't know what to do with it that wouldn't eat on their MacBook sales.

[@jcarter9988]

You are changing my mind about iPads. You are showing me that Apple is putting minimal effort into improving the software. The hardware is fully capable of doing great things. I spent a lot of money on my current iPad, and it’s just a streaming device. I am going to rethink my next purchase. I don’t need all the bells and whistles. Thank you Drew. You have opened my eyes.

[@andyH_England]

The vast majority buying the pro iPads buy them for the extras like display, speakers, M-chips, etc., rather than wanting them to replace their laptop (by the way, macOS is NEVER coming to iPads). My M1 iPad Pro is a couple of years old, and I expect to keep it for another five years, so spending the extra for the luxuries for that seven years is a no-brainer, but that is me.

[@Jorda5s]

iPad will be the next computer it’s just a matter of time. I’ve used mine for 2 years and I haven’t turned my iMac back on.

[@albertojhernandez]

Apple never really knew what to do with the iPad and now with the Vision Pro it’ll be ignored even more.

[@oo0024]

They did at the beginning as the ipad was just a device for casual internet users who would usually spend 500 bucks on slow laptops that can’t perform

[@I-O-I-]

I’m now convinced that the only reason Apple separated iPadOS from iOS was to have an excuse for delaying every major iOS feature for a whole year, not at all to exploit its potential…

[@andyH_England]

iPads make little money for Apple, especially compared to iPhones. So no one should be under any illusion why iPhones get features first, and then they trickle down to iPads. Just good business, and why Apple is a $3 trillion company.

[@Tylercx3]

Remember when iPad used to have more features (like PiP)? Those were good times…

[@williammosley9370]

I agree iPadOS has been getting the hand me down treatment I literally switched to my surface go 2 it gets the job done and I have external webcam support.

[@oo0024]

Surface slow 🤮

[@dhruvster10]

I think part of the problem is that there's a general lack of competition in the tablet space which doesn't push Apple to actually innovate in iPadOs

[@MerlinDerMagier]

The iPad is the first device that the Apple Vision will replace. A stationary, „at home“ media consumption device with big screen. Maybe that’s why they don’t care anymore?

[@torpidinput]

I'm surprised more people are not complaining about external sound control, when plugged into a monitor Currently when you plug into an external display the iPadOS volume is disabled, and there's no way of controlling the volume on the display or switching the volume to your iPad. Only option seems to possibly be Bluetooth speaker. It's the most frustrating thing for me.

[@torpidinput]

Latest iOS finally fixed this!!

[@RudyOMP]

Easily the best intro you've ever had

[@sammyfeitlin1409]

Not gonna lie I feel like a good portion of the content still holds up even though the external camera situation might have changed. iPads really aren’t getting the same amount of development as either iPhone or Mac, and it’s kind of sad because the hardware is completely capable. Loved the skit by the way lol

[@niveZz-]

I think there is less development bcs ipads have little to no competition

[@sammyfeitlin1409]

@@niveZz- I completely agree, unfortunately the lack of competition in that space is really starting to show

[@andyH_England]

I think the iPad does more than enough for the vast majority, not niche users like YT influencers. The recent Q1 sales, up 20%, suggest that Apple, rather than random YT creators, knows its market. Of course, you cannot always please all the people, so there will be the perennial complainers, who probably should buy something else if using an iPad is such a hardship.

[@techinrl9869]

Apple focuses on different things on the iPad versus the iPhone. iPad has been focused on multitasking for the last several years, first adding split screen features, slide over, and then eventually Stage Manager, along with stuff like Universal Control, things that are totally unnecessary on an iPhone. That is why the code paths were separated. They aren’t being lazy. The iPad isn’t an iPhone and therefore has different requirements. The only real improvements iPhones ever make are to the camera, something nobody really cares about for the iPad. Still waiting on the iPhone to get any of the features I mentioned above. How about we get Final Cut Pro for iPhone? What, you mean iPad can do a lot of things an iPhone can’t?

[@malfaro3l]

Anyone who buys any product with the “hope” that it will be different, deserves what they get. And the external camera will work with zoom and teams.

[@andyH_England]

Very true. I am astonished that clever people like YT creators buy a product knowing it does not do a, b and c and then spend the rest of their life whining about it not doing a, b and c! Life is too short; buy it if you think it will add value to your life, or purchase something else!

[@HALWG51]

The main reason I don't upgrade my 2018 iPad to anyone more, like the air or pro. What is the point?

[@WybremGaming]

The problem with ipad, is the appstore. It’s crap full of casinos and no freedom like adblockers. We need more appstores

[@maxcolvin9209]

I still like my idea of allowing you to partition the hard drive on the ipad and allow you taccess o load multiple os.

[@eht6242]

I love that you used the music from the old “I’m a Mac and I’m a PC” commercials for your intro. BRILLIANT!

[@jmoney211]

Why didn’t you add disclaimer text in the video or remove the 3rd party camera part altogether?

[@TailosiveTech]

Video was up by the time I learned about it. I’m out of the country right now and don’t have access to fast internet

[@jmoney211]

@@TailosiveTech Oh, that’s fine. Have fun wherever you are

[@nikewray]

2:20 just like how we need to wait for macOS's lockscreen customization (yes, it has the new clock in lockscreen but no customization, just like how the iPadOS 16 was)

[@DDProCo]

Apple makes the iPad mini but then they don’t really make any other iPads. I think it’s great that they figured out what the iPad was and just make only that one.

[@jamestribie3387]

Off topic but i think the vision pro will come out on the 40th anniversary of the original Mac next year.

[@tekadesjarlais]

Speaking of folio covers, iPadOS 16 made the lock screen clock bigger but it was still the right size that you could peek at the time pulling back the one panel on the folio. But I noticed on iPadOS 17 they increased the size yet again and now the time gets cut off when peeking at the time with the folio cover. I know it’s a beta 1, but I was disappointed last year with iPadOS 16 beta 1, and most features were solidified and not due to change for another year. I am frustrated with the feature parity on Apple products.

[@parsahatami500]

Wait, mine just gets smaller, annoying either way.

[@olivegys2093]

I wasn't expecting anything, so I'm not disappointed. For me, the iPad is about consuming media (audio, video), it's a reader (Kindel App & Apple Books), it's a notebook that you can take everywhere (with a Logitech Keys to Go keyboard). And my old iPad mini 5 does all this very well with the current version of iPadOS.

[@tonydarcy7475]

I've left my 2018 iPad Pro on iOS 14 as there hasn't been anything to convince me to upgrade to iOS 15/16/17. It is pretty much only used for web browsing & KZbin, just like my iPad Mini 1st gen was 11 years ago when I bought that (it was my first iPad). I want it to replace my computer, but I really just can't see that happening anytime soon. I will continue to just upgrade whenever the battery life gets too bad (about every 3-4 years) as there isn't likely to be much else that changes.

[@TheRedheadArtist]

So they still have not brought back the option of the today view in landscape :( I mistakenly updated my iPad when I was having troubles with my pencil (which didn’t fix the issue) not knowing they took it away!

[@Jrome4life]

I’ve been thinking about selling my 2020 iPad Pro great hardware lackluster software.

[@MessyMarv-qd5ud]

Apple promotes iPad as a tool for education but they don’t offer a native calculator app?? Courage? Lol

[@FknNeowww]

Your video intros are so damn funny every time 😂 but yeah I 100% agree with what you said Drew - I bought an M1 iPad on release day excited for what iPad OS was going to become but it has been a complete let down. Only ever use it to browse the web.

[@Majestic_King_Hunter]

I agree with you. I think the Apple Pencil is the best thing the iPad has going for it that is wholly unique from the other devices. And I feel that Apple doesn't have a good idea to innovate on the iPad each year to further get people to buy all 3 major devices (iPhone, iPad, and MacBook) so they are playing this game where the iPad gets shafted. But I bought a used M1 iPad last year so I am pretty set on iPad for at least 4-5 years.

[@edd9581]

5 or 6 years of support is too little for a desktop like SOC. Even windows 10 runs on 10 year olds pcs...

[@Majestic_King_Hunter]

@@edd9581 You are right but I feel that it would be an OS update that removes support rather than being slow. Unless I break the iPad somehow before those years are up.

[@jamestribie3387]

@@Majestic_King_Hunter you will break it because of how neglected it will be from Apple 😂

[@LeviewFPV]

This channel should be called AppleRant 😂 love it

[@lamarcabrian]

This one has to be one of your top 3 skits

[@Patrick76399]

So are there any more iOS/iPhone exclusive apps left that the iPad will get next year?

[@katrinabryce]

Calculator? Though I’m not holding my breath. Next year will be the 40th Anniversary of MacOS, and it has had it since day 1.

[@shanmohammed6784]

The name of the skit at the beginning : A series of unfortunate iPad summoning

[@MOBMJ]

I agree with you, I thought I was the only one that feels like this.

[@ChrisCarson05]

Preach! Definitely selling my iPad. All in on MacOS to get actual work done.

[@c.daubz.5386]

Definitely need calculator and wallet app on ipad, agree that I don’t like missing features each year since splitting the operating systems

[@EddyGraphic]

That’s why I’m keeping my 2018 iPad Pro until it dies and instead bought a 16 inch M2 Max MacBook Pro, the iPad Pro is not a computer and will never be, iPadOS is too basic.

[@sparky6757]

I understand where you’re coming from, but as a typical end user I really can’t think of much that bothers me for being absent from iPadOS. I wish it could natively make phone calls with the cellular models, and that it could pair with an Apple Watch, but that’s it. I feel that as I spent less on my 256gb iPad Air M1, pencil, and keyboard case than I’d spend on a Macbook Air M1, and it does everything I personally would use a Macbook for (schoolwork) and more (better for content consumption and digital drawing), then I got my money’s worth. I’m not too bothered that it can’t do a couple things that only my phone can do. That said, I’d be pretty frustrated if I specifically wanted MacOS, but also wanted a touchscreen and a smaller 11-inch form factor, and simply could not find that combo on the market. It’s a little annoying when there’s no reason something *couldn’t* be a certain way but it *isn’t* for fear of cannibalizing sales.

[@andyH_England]

Porting macOS on an 11-inch iPad would test Apple and likely fail as MS did with Windows Tablets. Any sensible person would look at history and try not to repeat it. MS showed that porting a desktop OS to a Tablet OS is fraught with compromises, and MS, from being in the ideal position to grab the tablet market for themselves, instead became a minor player.

[@sigiligus]

@@andyH_England I hate to break it to you, but Surface style 2-in-1's are doing just fine. I see people using them all the time on public transport and at university.

[@sparky6757]

@@andyH_England Isn’t that…literally what the Surface series of tablets is? Windows 11 on a tablet? Comes with a keyboard you can detach, it’s basically an iPad plus magic keyboard but from Microsoft, and it does just fine. Only reason I don’t have one is that one of the things I personally use Windows for is gaming, which the Surface isn’t great at.

[@andyH_England]

@@sparky6757 No the Surface Pro is really a laptop with a detachable keyboard. It is a poor tablet due to lack of tablet-specific apps. Ones you use for tablet stuff are just X86 with few quality of life upgrades for a tablet UI. MS has basically thrown in the towel with Windows Tablets and left it to Android and iPadOS. The fact the Surface Pro ports Android apps (Amazon) shows that a dedicated Windows Tablet is dead.

[@sparky6757]

@@andyH_EnglandIf you think putting a full computer OS on a tablet makes it not a tablet but a laptop with a detachable keyboard, fine, whatever, call it that. It’s just words. It can be used as a tablet or as a laptop, but call it whatever you want. If on the other hand you’re saying that a MacOS laptop with a detachable keyboard (as a *bonus*, mind you, not the main OS on the system) is a bad thing, simply do not use it. That’s like the people who think sideloading coming to iPhone is a bad thing because it “reduces security” - if something is literally an optional feature, then if you don’t like it, you can choose not to use it. Dual boot MacOS/iPadOS literally could not hurt anything other than Macbook sales. Unfortunately that’s the only thing it needs to hurt for Apple to never do it.

[@YJCH0I]

Thank you for republishing with disclaimer rather than deleting it because the intro skit is so funny 😂 Edit: Fixed comment to reflect republished status

[@BaconFaceMcGee]

If the only new feature for my mini 5 was the calculator app I would be happy.

[@EJX220]

Even though I have an iPad Pro with the M1 chip, I really only use it to watch movies and play games. It’s honestly not as useful as my iMac or my iPhone. Plus now that Vision Pro is coming out, Apple will pivot that as the premier content consuming device, leaving iPad further behind.

[@TheYea]

Preach! Glad that there will be some external camera support, the inconsistency of the software is maddening. It’s basically a procreate machine in my use case. I think the only people who don’t mind it being so sandboxed don’t have a Mac book to compare it to. It’s just wonky and annoying going from Mac OS to iPad and back. Seems like it would of been easier had they just made it the same. The os should feel like you didn’t have to relearn something only to do it in a dumber way.. One thing I have been messing with a little is the screen mirroring of the Mac book to my iPad then I can pretend it’s powerful on its own, pencil input becomes a whole new learning curve and all my brushes are in procreate so I’m still at a loss but it’s close.

[@summervibes6835]

This channel is underrated

[@guhankns]

Somebody please put that intro skit on a 10 hr loop!

[@slob5041]

The iPad is like a Swiss Army knife but all the blades are round

[@YUlHlRASAWA]

iPadOS sounded so cool and exciting back then, now it’s just this joke of an operating system. This whole year we suffered having the bold font on the time in the lock screen.

[@Isengardtom]

It’s still a nice OS, just not for everyone. I like it better than MacOS

[@UJB123]

⁠@@Isengardtom Yeah, some people don’t seem to realize iPad is a Tablet.

[@kevinpoinsett]

Keep the intro for your iPad OS 17 rant in September…we all know it’s coming 😊

[@Hovscorpion12]

I need to know. How many takes for that skit!!

[@chennyye28]

Great intro!

[@hayleyharrison5127]

Not putting standby on the iPad first, especially in light of the pixel tablet, just shows how little they care about it.

[@dfa4]

This is the issue with non-developers discussing Apple betas. There’s an API for developers to interface with external cameras. These developers just received the betas and can’t even launch their apps until ios 17 is released. So how can one expect to use supported features in third party apps with the first dev beta release?

[@The_MEMEphis]

Well he was testing out first party camera apps like oh idk the camera app and it wasn't there also it shouldn't need the third party developer to support it just like on Mac you plug in a camera and that can just become the systems default camera doesn't require the developers to do anything it's baked into the OS

[@andyH_England]

@@The_MEMEphis iPadOS does not work like that. Apps are sandboxed, so you cannot access an external device instantly. That is for absolute security and privacy reasons. Third-party devs will have to comply with all of Apple's small print to enable them to work.

[@NIKITOSKAZARINOV]

People buy ipads nad just don't use them and Apple knows it.

[@djplonghead5403]

I wish they made a new MagSafe battery pack- now larger since there is no Mini phone- but that battery pack also works with the vision pro.

[@andyH_England]

It is due for an update soon; maybe it will be announced with the new iPad, rumoured to use MagSafe?

[@phire4694]

Hit the nail on the head

[@ArcaneGhost0524]

Wait how do u have like the m1 and a 15 icons next to ur username, can i do that as well?

[@TailosiveTech]

Channel members. 1st link in description

[@unCoopervised]

Best, skit, ever!

[@manart6506]

I would love to have the features mentioned in this rant… but it would not really make me love the iPad more, I love the iPad actual features… but I just need an oled screen or smaller dimming zones in miniled

[@sergebureau2225]

Go get a Samsung Galaxy Tab S8, it beats the hell out of an iPad !

[@manart6506]

@@sergebureau2225 not even as a single device I would change. But as part of the Apple ecosystem, an iPad makes a lot more sense.

[@soumenchakraborty2450]

Mini led is good enough just give it to the 11 inch as well, OLED will just increase the price like hell.

[@manart6506]

@@soumenchakraborty2450 well the price is already high for my budget but OLED just looks as want it to look and not just good enough.

[@tf3111]

The Ipad is great for what it actually is. For me my Ipad air is the electronic notebook while sitting at my desk. Being away from the desk it,s my e-reader and media comsumtiom device. Hardly ever touch my Iphone…

[@Guerreropowerr]

Louise laughing in the background cracked me up lol

[@dkarras]

😂 @ 10:11 of a 10:33 vid, deadpan “But other than that, I really liked it”. 😂😂😂

[@adampoulden8681]

I love that he’s the Apple Sheep but will still call out bs the Apple does and is just so straight up honest about the iPad

[@TheHuztlazgreed]

One. I’m glad I watched the whole video before commenting because you literally said what I was thinking and that was the fact the Vision Pro would have a calculator before the iPad, but I gave up on that. I can even give up on the wallet app not coming to the iPad, but I think it would before the watch. I really feel like apple is missing money by having the watch only compatible with the iPhone. I say that because I’m not buying my kid an iPhone when I bought them an iPad. But it would be nice to buy them an Apple Watch if it connected to the iPad. But there’s the option of family having an Apple Watch, but it has to be like series 4 or better or something. Hurdles man. I wish there weren’t hurdles for the Apple Watch. But I’m still happy with it despite no Apple Watch app. But I wonder with the Lock Screen adaptation would they actually make an always-on display for the iPad? I mean, that’s more possible than a calculator app right? It should be a widget though.

[@luism3585]

Look at how big the iPads displays are. An always on display would KILL that battery life to be honest

[@TheHuztlazgreed]

@@luism3585 I don’t think the battery would ever be good enough because for me. I get all day battery life with the always on display per my iPhone 14 pro max. I have the battery pack as a backup, but I may charge my iPhone once a day. Usually at night so it can backup or whatever. But I don’t think they’ll do it. But if they’re following the pattern of the iPhone. It’s possible. But they’ll give an option to turn it off. I think that’s more of an appeal to people who want an iPad hub at home. I charge my iPad every 2 to 3 days. I haven’t used it as much because I currently keep my MacBook open to pull pics off an old hard drive.

[@jayspartantv]

iPadOS? More like clownOS! 🤡

[@realjammiedodger62]

0:44 best skit ever 😂😂😂

[@smartphonefan5226]

Apple is just just getting lazy with the iPad. You are right, all of these problems would have been avoided if they just let us dual boot into macOS. Speaking of the calculator app, even Android tablets have it.

[@katrinabryce]

Though Android tablets don’t have a weather app. Only the Surface has both.

[@smartphonefan5226]

@@katrinabryce Actually, the Galaxy Tab does have a weather app.

[@hhhmmmmmmmm]

Glad I’m not the only one frustrated. Baffling company.

One of your best videos in years. That is why I still have my 2018 iPad Pro. And still rocks!

[@ZackM72]

I don’t think the wallet isn’t going to be anything more than what it is in settings for the iPad unless they put an nfc chip in it. Calculator is truly annoying, I’m sure PCalc will be an interacting widget and solve the issue but I know isn’t apple doing it native.

[@PureWonder1111]

Why do they not care about the iPad? I don’t know what could possibly be happening inside apple

[@ebubeawachie]

Best. Intro. Ever. 😍😍😍

[@braelighty6212]

M2 iPad is equivalent to a hellcat engine in a Miata

[@marwanhassan6030]

I agree

[@TheDJSimonR]

I really wanted iPad to replace my laptops but it just can't and it's a shame. Now my iPads are used as portable work devices (to wirelessly control sound systems for sound checks) and media consumption while I am out at work and have some downtime.

[@andyH_England]

I never thought they would replace every user with a laptop. For my 80-y-o parents, it has replaced their notebooks, and they use them far more than their old Windows machines. The reality is no single product can suddenly be a replacement for everyone, and that is why when people whine about Apple saying the iPad is a laptop replacement, they really are taking it to unreasonable levels.

[@sigiligus]

This right here is the crux of the problem. A bunch of man-children angry that the iPad isn't a magic sci-fi device that replaces laptops for real work. That's what this all comes down to; the iPad looks cool so people want it to be the future instead of "boring old boomer laptops." Accept the iPad for what it actually is and there is no real issue with it.

[@TheDJSimonR]

@@sigiligus excuse me for wanting something you moron. This right here is the issue with the older generation (and I am 37 years old) they think we should stop and just use what we have and never ever look forward or maybe try something new. For “real work” I use a windows pc, windows laptop and a MacBook Pro along with thousands of £s worth of audio visual equipment which may I add we need to update every few years or we fall behind from the rest but god forbid that we think we can utilise something different. My iPads actually do real work but they have a place and that’s were they stay. I’d rather carry a wireless touch screen device which can have a keyboard too running macOS as my main work machine and leave my windows laptop in the tech booth doing background jobs but no, I have to utilise 3 separate devices to complete my job.

[@Patrick76399]

How is Freeform ever going to catch up to the likes of Miro if they wait one year to release new features?

[@zaheerahamed7545]

Got an iPad yesterday. Hoping that Apple pushes useful updates to the device instead of incremental features like these. Stage manager must improve further. Look at Samsung Dex. I know it is not smooth but the ability to use the apps in windows like a laptop will be useful for so many people. But then again it’s Apple. They won’t do it.

[@FlashthePreacherGuy]

 borked the iPad on purpose when they released the iPadOS for 2020. Because they were pushing features on Mac that they thought would be overshadowed by features the iPad already had. They removed those features and iPad still hasn’t gotten them back yet.

[@FlashthePreacherGuy]

Also great analogy about the groceries “iPadOS is the groceries on the floor” lol. * This comment brought to you from iOS17-the groceries in the fridge.*

[@adkljahkjasdhkasj374]

Not you trying to catch the iPad 😂😂

[@mannkeithc]

That's why it's called iPoor OS ... sorry I meant iPad OS for the crippled oversized iPhone.

I'm getting honest here - I really don't like Apple. Not the products or the services, but Apple in general. I know, as an Android user I am biased, but I try to be as objective as possible so I'm subscrubed to several "Apple sheep" content on KZbin just to get a feeling of it. This channel is slowling getting out of Apple sheep territory and getting into the Apple rant one, and the only one to blame for it is Apple. One of the biggest Apple supporters is making most of its content about the flaws of what is Apple making. This - to me - shows one big thing: the sheepest of the Apple sheep is the average Joe, because as soon as you start to make content on KZbin, you will dig deeper in stuff and will - eventually - find out about the flaws, and you will become less and less Apple sheep.

[@sigiligus]

Thing is, iPad doesn't need to get better for its core demographics. Basically the only people using them are Apple fanboys, old people, little kids, and artists. Besides a smattering of other buyers. But the iPad is not trying to have mass appeal nor meet consumer demands. There is no consumer demand for iPad. Besides the enthusiasts, almost everyone who has an iPad doesn't care a single bit about the features it doesn't have.

[@marwanhassan6030]

A list if they don’t let us have the features we want we should just jail back our iPad

[@GosuNoKami]

I miss jailbreaks

[@Marngel]

So I guess iPadOS 17 is not as big of a disappointment for you then lol

[@anthonylethbridge458]

I love my iPad Pro 12.9. It does things that the iPhone can’t do like multitasking, Apple pencil, large screen etc. I would really like a larger 14.5 inch screen but I agree with you that we should have dual boot macOS.

[@KadMac25]

Agreed! It sounds like the larger iPad will be coming early next year if the leaks are correct.

[@sparky6757]

iPad Air M1 owner here, the 11-inch display is right on the edge of comfortable usability. I feel like 11 inches is the perfect size to thread the needle between too small for tabletop and too big for handheld, making it versatile. So having never used a 13-inch iPad before - what’s the appeal, and why would you want a 15 inch iPad screen? At that size, wouldn’t it be totally impractical to use handheld? At which point the only reason to even have a touchscreen is for use with the Apple Pencil, right? So if a 15-inch iPad was on the market, why buy that over a 15-inch Macbook?

[@KadMac25]

@@sparky6757 Yes for the Apple Pencil input but also to use as an external monitor. I have a Mac Mini M1 and I like connecting my iPad Pro via USB C and I have a Mini LED display with Mac OS. It is also great as a drawing canvas.

[@sparky6757]

@@KadMac25 Seems like a pretty expensive way to get an external monitor, but I suppose it’s one of the only options to get a big external monitor and a drawing tablet in one device, and you can’t put a price on convenience. $1100 might not be a price **I** would pay for convenience but I can understand it at least.

[@_Digitalguy]

I'll give a couple more use cases for the appeal of a larger iPad, in addition to the external monitor (find me an external monitor that can work wirelessly and has pen input and that aspect ration by the way). Some people don't want to have a TV, they want to watch movies and series and be able to move from room to room. This does not mean they hold their device for 2-3 hours. Some buy a case with a kickstand, others (like me) have tablet stands in every room. When I compare my 12.9 to my Tab S8 ultra, watching movies on the larger one is sooo much better.... Also reading PDFs (magazines, business documents) in portrait mode, the bigger the better. And again you don't need to hold, you can have a stand on your desk. People that only use their tablets on their couch believe everyone must do the same. I have many tablets but never use any on a couch...

[@Majestic_King_Hunter]

I am low-key mad you didnt throw the ipad cover away for the "catch" and then reversed the footage in editing lol

[@tomkostolom6559]

I think that you should buy the product for what it is and not for what it could possibly become. Apple isn’t going to turn iPad into a MacBook replacement because why would Macs even exist then? Also I don’t think that adding the optimised battery charging and the calculator app would do much for many people. iPads are meant to be used for consuming media or playing games or taking notes for some people. I never really got the point why people buy the expensive keyboards thinking that they should be MacBooks when in reality it’s it’s own thing.

[@Patrick76399]

Still waiting for Marvel vs Capcom to come to Apple Arcade.

[@kinosyavah]

Calculator will be introduced in 10 years

[@sdfjsd]

Hand Me Down OS!!?? Bwahahahaha! I'm calling it that now exclusively. It's so true.

[@markojordany4154]

😂 love the intro Drew!! 😂 👏🏼👏🏼

[@markojordany4154]

Ps: I would rather spend my cash on an iPhone 14 plus and use like an iPad mini ... iPad OS disappoints imo

[@00z53]

No no hes got a point and also the wallet app needs to come to ipad and mac

[@yippiecalle421]

MacBooks are your Batman, they do everything and they are efficient and cool. iPads are like Robin, they are cool but still just a side kick to Batman and yes some Robins become Nightwing or the Red Hood (iPad pros). But they still no Batman.

[@ChristopherDazey]

This is great and all, but let’s see the full 17 minutes of folio throwing outtakes, please.

[@MikeSparksMusic]

Hopefully you didn’t mention the calculator subscription in the revised video so they don’t use that idea 😂

[@mcrich23]

Would not have been mad if the entire video was the skit

[@iCozzh]

Apples headset killed the already dead ipad. Change my mind.

[@sakurazero3641]

It is as you say. Lazy work. Google should get their act together to make some competition again.

[@Lifeland]

I thought they couldn’t downgrade even more the iPad and they did on iPadOS 17… There’s not a volume slider on the lockscreen anymore. It’s just like the iPhone on iOS 16. USELESS… To do a simple action like changing the volume I now have to either scroll and slide on the control center or touch the volume buttons. Before it was a simple gesture, now they’ve complicated even more

[@oleww50]

I literally can’t understand why there isn’t the calculator app on the iPad. It just makes no sense whatsoever and would be so useful. 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@Johnlmooring]

I believe Apple is towing that line as long as they can, because they know eventually one day in the future they will have no choice but to merge Mac and iPadOS

[@andyH_England]

That will never happen as that would be a terrible business decision! Thankfully Apple has people that know what they are doing and understand that merging the two has zero upsides but could be a catastrophic business move.

[@Johnlmooring]

@@andyH_England it’s going to happen in the future. IPadOS is only going to go so far and the MacBook design is getting dated. But when it happens, even if it’s 10 years from now I’ll be sure to revisit this post.

[@kateofone]

Vision Pro will replace iPad

[@ocvjw8734]

​@Kate if they knock that 3500 price down, provide better battery life, have enough third party developers and enable external display support, then maybe..

[@kateofone]

@@ocvjw8734 I honestly won’t buy Vision Pro until battery is 6+hours, not 2.