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iPhone 15 Pro Review: A17 Pro is Powerful, But Should Be More Efficient!

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Geekerwan

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@samleuning
@samleuning 11 ай бұрын
The fact you guys made this in just 3 days is incredible. major props to your team
@danrichard5442
@danrichard5442 11 ай бұрын
emmmmm. actually ,this video's mandarin version has been already released 3 days ago
@danrichard5442
@danrichard5442 11 ай бұрын
bro , you don't know how easy to make a different languege version these days@@MarcABrown-tt1fp
@Ucfahmad
@Ucfahmad 11 ай бұрын
This video was out on day 1, in Chinese
@samleuning
@samleuning 11 ай бұрын
​@@danrichard5442😮
@UnboxAesthetics
@UnboxAesthetics 11 ай бұрын
Watch my unboxing of the iPhone 15 Pro Max!! 🖤
@quantuminfinity4260
@quantuminfinity4260 11 ай бұрын
Your videos are seriously by far and away the best testing standards for these devices! This needs so many more views!
@Casualgaming-dw5gm
@Casualgaming-dw5gm 11 ай бұрын
FYI, their Chinese channel are more up to date and has started to include English subtitles since the last 10-20 videos.
@shinnoke8
@shinnoke8 11 ай бұрын
@@Casualgaming-dw5gm what his chinese channel bro? mind share the link 🙏 thanks
@Casualgaming-dw5gm
@Casualgaming-dw5gm 11 ай бұрын
@@shinnoke8 KZbin do not allow links, search 极客湾
@RES_CON
@RES_CON 11 ай бұрын
⁠@@shinnoke8 极客湾Geekerwan
@Michael-xv3dl
@Michael-xv3dl 11 ай бұрын
I think they are one of the best tech channel
@maxzarrif6753
@maxzarrif6753 11 ай бұрын
Guys, I always love that you pay attention to what really matters and not to marketing noise. And making deep meaningful tests to find the truth. Keep it up! 🔥
@siddharthkadam8341
@siddharthkadam8341 11 ай бұрын
💯
@pinotarallino
@pinotarallino 11 ай бұрын
You are like +1M times more useful than any other tech channel could ever be. Thanks!
@istvanjegels3024
@istvanjegels3024 11 ай бұрын
Agree. Make that +2M
@dx5784
@dx5784 11 ай бұрын
a lot better than *cough* mkbhd *cough* , literally the most basic "tech" youtuber.
@brandtlai1247
@brandtlai1247 11 ай бұрын
@@dx5784like reading the advertisement script
@alaskanmalamute101
@alaskanmalamute101 11 ай бұрын
What about LTT? With it's messed up graphs and sponsored segments 🤣
@sakamoto8354
@sakamoto8354 11 ай бұрын
@@dx5784 mkbhd is a tech influencer at this point, not really a tech reviewer.
@quantuminfinity4260
@quantuminfinity4260 11 ай бұрын
Your Power efficiency tests are the only tests on KZbin that are actually useable and fantastic!
@angeloa.lapizar8139
@angeloa.lapizar8139 11 ай бұрын
He's in my top 5 deep analysis tech KZbinrs, just incredible work that I greatly appreciate
@rienhara
@rienhara 11 ай бұрын
@@angeloa.lapizar8139 what's your top 5 list? thanks
@xjavq
@xjavq 11 ай бұрын
​@@angeloa.lapizar8139who are the rest?
@mikiyakokutou8979
@mikiyakokutou8979 11 ай бұрын
@@angeloa.lapizar8139 Please tell us the other 4 KZbinrs, we really need it
@Jambasulu
@Jambasulu 8 ай бұрын
@@angeloa.lapizar8139 Can you name other deep analysis channels?
@SIPEROTH
@SIPEROTH 11 ай бұрын
While others talk about a little button on the side, USB-C and 5x zoom this guys open a whole benchmark test suit on the thing. This is absolutely top material when checking out smartphone hardware. Way ahead of anything else and what most of us interested in the tech inside have been missing.
@wyw201
@wyw201 11 ай бұрын
Anandtech still do deep dives on SOC architectural breakdown
@phothewin6019
@phothewin6019 8 ай бұрын
And there's nothing wrong with talking about things like the new action button, the USBC, or the zoom. The average consumer doesn't care about in-depth chip analysis. They'd rather hear about the former features.
@orionmobile6545
@orionmobile6545 4 ай бұрын
​@@phothewin6019U commented in every threat lmao, tryhard apple fanboy
@phothewin6019
@phothewin6019 4 ай бұрын
@@orionmobile6545 What threat? What are you waffling about lol?
@Garrettdx1988
@Garrettdx1988 11 ай бұрын
I wish more reviewers dove into performance like Geekerwan does. This really is the channel I look forward to watching the most when a high-end mobile chip is launched.
@young558
@young558 11 ай бұрын
definitely dude!
@phothewin6019
@phothewin6019 8 ай бұрын
Their results are inconsistent with what I experience in real life daily use.
@icsu6530
@icsu6530 11 ай бұрын
the fact that they just make 2 different languages of a17pro analysis videos in a week is just amazing. Shout out to Geekerwan🔥
@LLLLLLEON216
@LLLLLLEON216 11 ай бұрын
This is no doubt the most professional and in-depth review of the new iPhone's performance and efficiency. It makes other reviews look soooo shallow. Other reviewer simply talk about how it "feels" to use the phone, without showing almost any useful statistics. They really should aim for Geekerwan's level and step up.
@JohnDiew
@JohnDiew 11 ай бұрын
While I like Geekerwan's technical deep dive, I still prefer how others talk about the real world usage and their personal input. If every tech review is just talking about the numbers then the whole platform is just having the same content
@owenliu4780
@owenliu4780 11 ай бұрын
​@@JohnDiew Numbers are not just numbers. How numbers are produced; what numbers to present, and how to make numbers meaningful and form a story. These are all important questions to answer, and believe me, every creator will have different ideas on that. Geekerwan was the first channel to produce and organize the graph of the power-energy curve, and the actual performance of CPUs since SG888 aligned better with the curve than the single benchmark number. This is "different". For the battery life test, Geekerwan produced the automated scripts/robotics arm to mimic people's daily activity of multi-tasking on multiple APPs, which is more meaningful than recording the time playing KZbin videos as many reviewers did. And the number they produced simply aligns better. That is the art of using numbers from Geekerwan. Of course, good reviewers like MKBHD are also necessary, and Geekerwan simply admits that they are not good at evaluating screens, cameras, sounds, etc. But to be honest, cameras/sounds and many aspects of the phones can also be quantified and better presented to the customers. We actually need more professional reviewers on these aspects; similar to Geekerwan on SOC.
@tomikun8057
@tomikun8057 Ай бұрын
​​​@@JohnDiewPersonally would prefer cold hard numbers. Geekerwan is still somewhat biased because of the silicon lottery. Multiple sources for this information is best. Anecdotal reviews are near useless since everyone uses their phones differently.
@straight_man
@straight_man 11 ай бұрын
The only channel I can trust in terms of SoC performance. Thank you for delivering such an in-depth review again.
@harigovindsrfortechnology
@harigovindsrfortechnology 11 ай бұрын
The only channel who's processer reviews I care for❤❤
@subasthapa8323
@subasthapa8323 11 ай бұрын
I second that
@thanglenhaoanthonytouthang6367
@thanglenhaoanthonytouthang6367 11 ай бұрын
I third that
@adhamhazwan231
@adhamhazwan231 6 ай бұрын
Fr
@NootNoot.
@NootNoot. 11 ай бұрын
Amazing and detailed analysis as always! The only one doing proper SOC reviews. My takeaway is pretty much, not much has been improved, the E-Cores are actually quite impressive, and the soft eng and graphic programmers have done a phenomenal job, porting an actual game on a phone. Hell, you could run RE8 on the A15 just fine, but is gimped by ram. Also, while the chips quickly thermal throttles, I am amazed how it can run the game at a playable 30fps, ~4W.
@jonathanpusar5931
@jonathanpusar5931 11 ай бұрын
That part is less surprising if you’ve been paying attention to gaming performance on MacBook Airs ever since the M1. It’s limited by Mac OS, but the games that run natively are impressive. These smartphones can easily compete with x86 laptops (the iPad has been beating Windows in raw performance vs Intel for awhile).
@NootNoot.
@NootNoot. 11 ай бұрын
@@jonathanpusar5931 That's true. At the end of the day, it all comes down to physics. I feel like they should discover more paths to dissipate all that heat quicker, efficiently (well know that I think about it, some android phones do this pretty well). Then again, idk if we've already hit that ceiling with such small devices.
@jonathanpusar5931
@jonathanpusar5931 11 ай бұрын
@@NootNoot. I’m hoping these results are due to poor optimization pre release (as it’s only officially released today, and there’s already an iOS 17 update). If not…oof. I really think we’ve finally hit the end of the road for real computing performance boost without a new technological or engineering breakthrough.
@NootNoot.
@NootNoot. 11 ай бұрын
​@@jonathanpusar5931 Classic software update cope. /s aside, Apple tends to do this better than android, so I'm sure we'll some sort of improvement. Although, just keeping expectations low
@jonathanpusar5931
@jonathanpusar5931 11 ай бұрын
@@NootNoot. less cope more hope lol. It would suck for us to be stuck with only tock improvements….
@nvk4272
@nvk4272 11 ай бұрын
This is how reviews should be done, Bravo
@the_batman_fan_
@the_batman_fan_ 5 ай бұрын
Guys.... Where is your new video..... It's already been five months..... C'mon guys
@user-zb8wx8iu3u
@user-zb8wx8iu3u 2 ай бұрын
This is a english channel,if you wang to see new videos you can search the @geekerwan 极客湾. That is their chinese channel
@mafiaboy4925
@mafiaboy4925 2 ай бұрын
He is dead 😢
@the_batman_fan_
@the_batman_fan_ 2 ай бұрын
@@mafiaboy4925 what are you saying..... Is it true?!?! 😨
@crazynote3781
@crazynote3781 Ай бұрын
9 months
@det-id8ck
@det-id8ck 7 күн бұрын
@@crazynote3781 They are currently very active on the Chinese channel
@vincelongman3264
@vincelongman3264 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the English version, I can't wait for you to compare the A17 with the 8g3 and D9300 in a couple months. Also hope you can test MetalFX Upscaling vs Qualcomm's GSR
@aItaccount
@aItaccount 11 ай бұрын
D9300 is the one with all big cores, right?
@vincelongman3264
@vincelongman3264 11 ай бұрын
@@aItaccount The D9300 is X4+X4+A720, no A520. But then again Apple's E cores+L2 are larger than the A720+L2
@xtr.7662
@xtr.7662 11 ай бұрын
Metal fx is probably better its hardware based gsr is based on fsr 1
@aItaccount
@aItaccount 11 ай бұрын
@@vincelongman3264 I thought it had 4 X4 cores
@vincelongman3264
@vincelongman3264 11 ай бұрын
@@aItaccount Yes, but it will be 1x X4 + 3x X4. Similar to previous 1+3+4 setups
@devjitbanerjee6510
@devjitbanerjee6510 11 ай бұрын
While other YT channels have the capacity to just talk about battery efficiency and SoC performance this is the only channel that shows and knows how it should be done. As always awesome video and really shows the depth of knowledge you guys have. I have rarely come across another channel that is as technically capable as you guys are. After watching your videos the other channels who claim to be "tech reviewers" just seem like social network celebrities to me.
@SIPEROTH
@SIPEROTH 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, this is what "tech review" is, not just showing glamour shots of the device and talking how nice you find it. Actual tech review is hard which is why others can't or don't want to do it and just prefer to talk on surface level features. That is why it is great having guys like this that put in the effort.
@johntitor6851
@johntitor6851 11 ай бұрын
The fact that this channel has only 220k subscribers boggles me. Very underrated channel.
@devjitbanerjee6510
@devjitbanerjee6510 11 ай бұрын
​@@johntitor6851 True
@KevoIogy
@KevoIogy 2 ай бұрын
Please do more videos on this english channel. Youve only made 15 videos, and youve already made almost half the subscribers of your chinese main channel. The english speakers love this!
@talktechafrica
@talktechafrica 11 ай бұрын
Waited for the English Version Apple is really drawing a lot of power. 😢
@panpan7945
@panpan7945 11 ай бұрын
My friend change 15 pro max from 14 pro max , he got his phone today . He has used 8 hours , he said heat control not really good .
@jonathanpusar5931
@jonathanpusar5931 11 ай бұрын
@@panpan7945I’m actually holding off picking up my phone watching this video…honestly it looks really bad unless the tests were faulty.
@BobMcBurger1
@BobMcBurger1 11 ай бұрын
Again, it comes down to what you do on you phone. If it is something intensive, of course your phone will lose power considerably faster. Including tests can very from channel to channel. Because what mainly matters is what you do with your phone and not what a test tells you. But do consider the fact iPhone battery life improves year by year, even if test results don't show that.
@jonathanpusar5931
@jonathanpusar5931 11 ай бұрын
@@BobMcBurger1 eh the test he ran was fairly normal. It wasn’t a pure gaming test or anything like that. I expect bad battery life from any phone or device when gaming. So yeah….if this holds up post release there’s gonna be a lot of angry customers
@BobMcBurger1
@BobMcBurger1 11 ай бұрын
@@jonathanpusar5931 I'll admit I'm not impressed either but consider that iOS 17 is still new. Give it some updates and things will improve, since I'm pretty sure this isn't the first time something like this has happened.
@gamerclub3136
@gamerclub3136 2 ай бұрын
Where is this man now???
@陸
@陸 Ай бұрын
On main channel
@lj9683
@lj9683 3 ай бұрын
They are planning to comr back soon! They just posted a vacancy for Geekerwan English channel supervisor few days ago on their Chinese socials.
@earljoevincentnacion7801
@earljoevincentnacion7801 11 ай бұрын
This channel deserves more. I believe you guys are the most reliable source of information that the phone manufacturers rarely talks about.
@29kalel
@29kalel 11 ай бұрын
It’s difficult to say there isn’t any improvement when at its peak the A17 is a monster it just drains the battery. Would be great to see if a software update can help some of this
@paulzx
@paulzx 10 ай бұрын
You either get battery or performance, but not both. That is the whole point of power efficiency that Apple used to emphasize.
@vardaankaushal8560
@vardaankaushal8560 4 ай бұрын
Come back guys
@lj9683
@lj9683 3 ай бұрын
They are coming back soon. They just posted a vacancy for Geekerwan English Channel Supervisor at Bilibili few days ago!
@vardaankaushal8560
@vardaankaushal8560 3 ай бұрын
@@lj9683 Thanks for info bro. I'll be waiting for upcoming videos.
@ninoroes07
@ninoroes07 5 ай бұрын
This channel is so underrated and deserves much more attention, I wish they would produce more of these high quality contents!
@Strawhats25
@Strawhats25 5 ай бұрын
What happened bro why you not uploading videos 🤔
@user-zx7ek9qq6y
@user-zx7ek9qq6y 5 ай бұрын
Geekerwan has been continuously updating videos in the Chinese channel, along with English subtitles. However, it seems that Geekerwan only recreates English versions of some large-scale videos, so it may still take some time....
@tototoleelee1993
@tototoleelee1993 11 ай бұрын
由中文台過來的香港sub,只想說一句:你的英文太炫了!Bravo!Great work and effort. 整體流暢、intonation也不錯、地道的expression,是還有一點點accent,但完全不妨礙理解,再多做幾條片,精進一下口語,就成一個native speaker突破1m的國際大V了 提一點建議,可以把說話的節奏放慢一點點,留一點空白,質感會感覺高級一點,耳朵也舒服一些
@tommyle628
@tommyle628 11 ай бұрын
I think it's not TSMC fault for not being good at improving to a better 3nm process, this is Apple's own choice to use a not-ready 3nm process, they knew it would be bad but keep pushing anyway. TSMC will make a better 3nm process, but should be 6 months plus from now. Awesome analysis, I watched both of your Chinese and English version, can't get enough of it haha
@SergioWolf843
@SergioWolf843 11 ай бұрын
In fact, it only turns in A18/19, that’s because TSMC had problems with N3, so it only had improvements in Density and not efficiency.
@12pure
@12pure 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, Apple's using N3B, N3 or N3X is not ready, and will not be ready any time soon, more like 8 months or so. My theory is that A17 is just a rewamped A16 for N3B, no actual architectural changes at all, except for 8GB RAM. Basically every single performance gain comes from N3B since the IPC gain is ~2%-3% (from few tweaks made from more transistors using the new litography). The high consumption came from iOS, Apple says, it's fixed in the new iOS update without performance losses, so it should be even 5% more efficient, Apple claims.
@ravenhash6495
@ravenhash6495 4 ай бұрын
Apple just didnt care about the performance increasing,they just need to tell the costomers that our IPHONE is the best and it is always advancing
@jadednft
@jadednft 11 ай бұрын
Absolute quality content, no other phone benchmark channel comes close!
@noelgomile3675
@noelgomile3675 11 ай бұрын
Your channel is a godsend, I've been wanting reviews that are technical and in-depth instead of just a surface level overview.
@Asifur_Rahman
@Asifur_Rahman 11 ай бұрын
You and your team are awesome
@iau
@iau 11 ай бұрын
My key takeaways: *CPU:* - A17 performance cores are less efficient than A16 p-cores but can achieve more power with a lot more power draw - A17 efficiency cores are better power and efficiency-wise than A16 e-cores - Both are still generations ahead of Snapdragon: SD8 Gen2 comparable to an A14 (iPhone 12 Pro) *GPU:* - Still worse than Snapdragon 8 Gen 2, comparable with Mediatek Dimensity 9200+ - Achieves ~32fps in Resident Evil Village at 4W consumption, vs Steam Deck's ~37fps at 15W (actually impressive) *Battery life and thermals:* - Slightly worse than iPhone 14 Pro, while also running hotter Seems the 3nm process did not provide any meaningful upgrades over 5nm
@Dwivil
@Dwivil 11 ай бұрын
According to rumors, the SD8G3 chip is looking to be a pretty big step up. I really do hope to see a video on that SoC and see if those rumors are correct. You guys do great work and out of all the reviewers for all phones, I think you guys are the best in terms of being able to gauge the performance of a phone. Since most reviewers just throw the phones at geekbench, which from what I've read up on is fairly biased.
@Silent.killer_007
@Silent.killer_007 11 ай бұрын
And they declare soc supremacy by just showing geekbench scores and forget that gpu exists.
@dougmorato
@dougmorato 11 ай бұрын
Well, since they’re like 3 generations behind Apples, they must have a big step up.
@RajeshSingh-rt4rx
@RajeshSingh-rt4rx 11 ай бұрын
​@@dougmoratoIn what?
@utubekullanicisi
@utubekullanicisi 11 ай бұрын
@@Silent.killer_007 They didn't declare SoC supremacy, they declared CPU supremacy. You not liking the results doesn't make them invalid.
@utubekullanicisi
@utubekullanicisi 11 ай бұрын
Has anything been said about the 8 Gen 3 GPU?
@starslegacy9580
@starslegacy9580 11 ай бұрын
😮This guy is the final Boss of phones benchmark testing 🔥
@Dani-kq6qq
@Dani-kq6qq 11 ай бұрын
Mann, your review style is so good. I just discovered your channel, i have never seen this thoroughness for phone performance and battery life reviews
@Flash363
@Flash363 11 ай бұрын
I always look forward to your reviews when a new phone releases! Love the in depth testing! You guys go above and beyond for us! Can't wait for your video on Snapdragon 8 Gen 3! 👏🏼
@bingcheng4740
@bingcheng4740 10 ай бұрын
8Gen3 In their Chinese chanel
@ZeroGravity9353
@ZeroGravity9353 5 ай бұрын
Sir pls upload new video iam waiting from months , ur videos r so very detailed.
@hunhowshadow317
@hunhowshadow317 11 ай бұрын
You could had also showed us the performance difference using the MetalFX and also show us how the power draw reduces into using a targeted frame rate with MetalFX enabled and disabled. Other than that I have no words for the quality of the review. If not from you I couldn't know the actual differences in architectural improvements vs the last generation
@SIPEROTH
@SIPEROTH 11 ай бұрын
I don't think much attention on MetalFX is worth it right now because it is still basically work on progress. When is fully launched and is in games then a full dedicated video will be better.
@numberIII5243-bh8fo
@numberIII5243-bh8fo 8 ай бұрын
My iPhone 15 Pro with Metal FX on and max everything graphics including 120fps heists the phone up to 49.9 degrees C!! It’s even worse than you think.
@ayoub1o1
@ayoub1o1 11 ай бұрын
True benchmark review 👌 keep up !
@bing-chilling1713
@bing-chilling1713 11 ай бұрын
Geekerwan: post new test data* Content thieves on Twitter: OUR data
@erenixereinx5409
@erenixereinx5409 11 ай бұрын
You are giga monsters. For me, you're the best tech youtuber on smartphones. Your videos are of our level compared to other youtubers, it's impressive. They show how well you've mastered the subject. In any case thank you for this very intersecting video.
@emreercan7011
@emreercan7011 11 ай бұрын
Best channel for choosing a new phone
@zugedreht
@zugedreht 7 ай бұрын
We need a Video to the exynos 2400 and 8 gen 3
@KinoINFINITY
@KinoINFINITY 11 ай бұрын
6:30 with great power comes lower efficiency
@hetashar6509
@hetashar6509 8 ай бұрын
Where is the 8 gen 3 review??
@theenathayalan3820
@theenathayalan3820 10 ай бұрын
Please make a review on sd gen 3 chipset. Lot of phones are going to come with this in the upcoming year.
@ruko3497
@ruko3497 10 ай бұрын
soon maybe, he already uploaded a video about 8g3 in his chinese channel.
@stgamer4948
@stgamer4948 Ай бұрын
Hey i have a good idea.. can u change iphone 15-15 plus display to 120hz
@shakibrahman
@shakibrahman 11 ай бұрын
finally. Was waiting for this! Thanks guys!
@RustySeatbelt
@RustySeatbelt 11 ай бұрын
You guys got me sweatin during this two-week return window! lol Was really hoping for better thermal performance outdoors. Screen-dimming/overheating was my main reason for upgrading.
@gurjodhsingh351
@gurjodhsingh351 11 ай бұрын
You guys make really good comparison videos .will be checking out more of em.
@obefiend
@obefiend 11 ай бұрын
This channel gonna be the DIGITAL FOUNDRY for mobile device. MAD analysis lads. Respect
@Onceazure
@Onceazure 11 ай бұрын
Give them a little time, because of the Chinese tone, which is very popular in China, but it will be a little strange to use to read English
@ddvn7128
@ddvn7128 5 ай бұрын
Geekerwan China already has English subtitles. What's stopping you guys from using ai tools to generate audio tracks for the English channel. Even AI generated English audio tracks on the geekerwan China would also be great. 🙏
@walid6329
@walid6329 11 ай бұрын
I believe from what I got to understand from benchmarks the GPU of the SD8G2 it's what makes magical
@thefrog414
@thefrog414 11 ай бұрын
I'm still wondering what the hell did they do to their gpu to be this powerful, literally nobody thought Snapdragon could have a better gpu than of the iPhones.
@ThePowerLover
@ThePowerLover 11 ай бұрын
@@thefrog414But the performance in actual games make those results sus.
@walid6329
@walid6329 11 ай бұрын
@@thefrog414 custom design and since they acquired Nuvia they will put their design of CPU cores pretty soon idk if the SD8G3 or SD8G4 but I'm pretty sure it will make a huge difference and take the lead on CPU performance other thing we should consider I guess the games and test that use 3D are more GPU bound then CPU bound hope someone do a detail explication on it. another thing I have a phone with SD865 and honestly it's still super fast running everything and I believe I could still push a year or two with it without a hiccup. and add to that software is what limiting our phones google is fing with our phone constantly if you go to Android subreddit you will find a lot of stories on this and that makes me wonder if they are degrading our phones on purpose
@thefrog414
@thefrog414 11 ай бұрын
@@ThePowerLover what do you mean by that?
@SergioWolf843
@SergioWolf843 11 ай бұрын
@@walid6329Wrong, 3D tests have a high CPU demand, that’s why Apple shines, the IPhone has so many vector accelerators on the CPU that it makes ARM Stock mediocre, and the entire Apple ecosystem takes advantage of it including games, maybe that’s the reason, Android has a problem on the CPU side.
@EmuManGo
@EmuManGo 10 ай бұрын
We are waiting for the 8 gen 3 comparison
@abdullahr7855
@abdullahr7855 11 ай бұрын
Great job guys! Just one note, a cpu running faster with an increased power consumption could still result in higher efficiencies if it completes a program significantly faster. Why not include total energy consumed in completing the SPEC2017 suite instead of just (what I’m assuming is) average power consumption?
@niczhou3169
@niczhou3169 11 ай бұрын
Good point
@srinivasanpalanisamy3013
@srinivasanpalanisamy3013 2 ай бұрын
Hey man make a power efficiency test between Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite & Apple M series' chipsets
@user-jr6cl7tw9c
@user-jr6cl7tw9c Ай бұрын
He said x elite is shxt and he won’t release the test because it’s boring 😢
@GrandomamaBulletto
@GrandomamaBulletto 11 ай бұрын
I love your in-depth coverage! Keep it up!
@nich-ko6si
@nich-ko6si 8 ай бұрын
The iPhone 14 Pro actually performs mostly consistent 60fps now, after iOS 17.2, at the cost of extra power consumption. I think this is due to the optimizations done after the MetalFX implementation. However, with MetalFX, the iPhone 15 Pro drops to 58.7fps with the increased power consumption at 4.8 watts. This is however a much higher resolution visually compared to the older 14 pro.
@KinoINFINITY
@KinoINFINITY 11 ай бұрын
A17 pro is heating mess without cooling,if they had used vapour camber cooling. Efficiency wouldn't be that bad. A17 pro = Snapdragon 888 of iphones Both are heating mess
@mumbakayoba3082
@mumbakayoba3082 11 ай бұрын
apple is going the intel way, pump more power and get more perfomance
@NebulaCosmicX
@NebulaCosmicX 8 күн бұрын
Nah. SD888 is worse. iPhone 15 Pro is good now after updates.
@shaneiahshaiehngudito6799
@shaneiahshaiehngudito6799 10 ай бұрын
Pls make 8 gen 3 soon. thanks in advance👍👍
@achhabra2
@achhabra2 11 ай бұрын
Epic video as always, thanks for all the hard work you put into this
@Beluga-ud1oy
@Beluga-ud1oy 11 ай бұрын
Great video with great news Apple Silicon A17 chip
@-MrEVIL-
@-MrEVIL- 11 ай бұрын
Big gpu disappointment 8 gen 3 and 8 gen 4 should be awesome Rumors seem really good
@TheRealGigaCat
@TheRealGigaCat 11 ай бұрын
Yeah. can't wait to test switch and other emulators on it. Iphones can't do that anyway.
@Silent.killer_007
@Silent.killer_007 11 ай бұрын
​@@TheRealGigaCathere im hoping that those iphone AAA games also come to androids, then i bet sd 8g3 gaming phones will easily run them at 1080p 60fps stable using similiar settings to iphone's maximum where it got 44fps.
@-MrEVIL-
@-MrEVIL- 11 ай бұрын
Emulation will be much easier when windows on arm gets gaming support because the chipset is similar
@TheRealGigaCat
@TheRealGigaCat 11 ай бұрын
@@Silent.killer_007 yes, absolutely.
@TanvirAhmed1992
@TanvirAhmed1992 9 ай бұрын
I casually check your channel for new videos and sometimes I rewatch old videos. Superb work.
@ionutjon7635
@ionutjon7635 11 ай бұрын
Great and objective review! You are one of the few reviewers that I have faith in their opinions.
@hetashar6509
@hetashar6509 8 ай бұрын
Please post new videos comparing latest chipsets
@RiqMoran
@RiqMoran 11 ай бұрын
Finally, a real iphone review instead of lazy regurgitated information from the apple keynote
@abxtestban
@abxtestban 4 ай бұрын
I'm a low budget consumer.So acording to the effiency curves, i just need a cpu with a78 prime core, 2,2-2,4ghz freq,4nm process, TSMC manufacturer. I can't wait for snap 4 gen 3 anymore.
@seaxuWorld
@seaxuWorld 11 ай бұрын
A great job that allowed me to understand the detailed performance comparison of Apple's latest chips. This guy is amazing
@robone9978
@robone9978 7 ай бұрын
i cant wait for the snapdragon x elite review, i think its not more in the class of arm socs with 30 and 50 watts of tdp, arm its about less energy consumin
@JoseGonzalez-pn8vm
@JoseGonzalez-pn8vm 11 ай бұрын
Doing the god's work. Amazing video, very informative. I knew Apple's E-cores were faster than the stock ARM alternatives for Android, but not that fast. That explains a lot why usually iPhones feel faster in general, light usage. Most of the non demanding tasks are carried by these cores.
@ramseyrodriguez8515
@ramseyrodriguez8515 11 ай бұрын
Exactly. When compared to the 1+3+4 config. Of the 9200; Apple’s could be considered rather a 2+4+0 design. I’m looking forward to Mediatek’s 9300; but afraid of its power draw.
@JoseGonzalez-pn8vm
@JoseGonzalez-pn8vm 11 ай бұрын
@@ramseyrodriguez8515 absolutely! Some people complain about Apple still having 6 cores instead of 8 or more but why would they need to add more if their efficient cores are so powerful... If anything, it is ARM who needs to catch up with their 'little' cores or improve efficiency of their middle ones.
@SergioWolf843
@SergioWolf843 11 ай бұрын
I think that not even in games these cores are used, I only used the P-Cores in rendering in InShot with a frequency of 2.8ghz in 3W and it was not the Maximum Clock of the A15 Bionic, in games I use the LPM Mode of the IPhone with a frequency of 1.8ghz that are of the E-Cores, that is, you could play anything using the low consumption mode but without losing performance, Apple’s E-colors are above the ARM Stock since the A14 Bionic.
@battery_wattage
@battery_wattage 11 ай бұрын
From now on other smartphone reviewers should just review the phone and not do the unrealistic maximum benchmarks. This is how you review real world smartphone performance.
@zerorisama
@zerorisama 11 ай бұрын
This is one of the most professional and powerful iPhone processor performance reviews on KZbin!
@ExclamationMarx
@ExclamationMarx 6 ай бұрын
These videos are incredibly informative. Thank you
@Carube
@Carube 10 күн бұрын
Nice donate
@Carube
@Carube 10 күн бұрын
Hi pubg mobile friend
@edel257
@edel257 11 ай бұрын
Was waiting for your review 😅
@SunsetNova
@SunsetNova 11 ай бұрын
THIS is what you call a review not the fancy B roll spec run downs you commonly see on KZbin
@ROKIBULHASANTANZIM
@ROKIBULHASANTANZIM 11 ай бұрын
You guys are simply brilliant! Such an in depth presentation! No offense but western KZbinrs are so dull with the reviews.
@Youtube-Censorship-Police
@Youtube-Censorship-Police 11 ай бұрын
17:41 perfectly shows why active cooling is indispensable when it comes to mobile gaming, look at the steady performance of the deck and how both iphone soc's start to throttle.
@vevisa3287
@vevisa3287 11 ай бұрын
I love these in depth mobile processor reviews. These are better than pretty much anything else I've found
@itsrish4real
@itsrish4real 11 ай бұрын
I didn't even skip ads man i was that patient for your review on this phone especially when they said you can play resident evil village and 4 remake on pro models!!
@zijunliu8424
@zijunliu8424 11 ай бұрын
Geerkerwan对手机的性能评测可能是整个KZbin上最专业的。我已经订阅了他们7年了!
@djsky2k8
@djsky2k8 11 ай бұрын
Hands down the best tech review on this subject
@Noine14159145
@Noine14159145 4 ай бұрын
7 months and no new video…
@WonderfulBoness
@WonderfulBoness 3 ай бұрын
They have a Chinese channel that's more active
@AllenLi-hc1fb
@AllenLi-hc1fb 3 ай бұрын
check the chense one and english subtitles available as well
@hsnakgn
@hsnakgn 3 ай бұрын
​@@WonderfulBoness what is the name of english channel?
@WonderfulBoness
@WonderfulBoness 3 ай бұрын
@@hsnakgn geekerwan is the English channel and the other channel is in the community tab
@amoghpeesapaty3854
@amoghpeesapaty3854 Ай бұрын
Very good video indeed, can’t wait to see what the new iPhone 16 Series chips will offer this year. Keep it up guys! This is the best review i have ever seen for iPhones till date. 👍
@niveZz-
@niveZz- 11 ай бұрын
the best a17 pro review by far
@qingrex
@qingrex 11 ай бұрын
I have seen many highly viewed video bloggers analyzing the iPhone, but it is difficult for me to find such convincing and accurate technology reviews. Thank you, you are the best video review blogger on KZbin!
@eedoamitay3341
@eedoamitay3341 11 ай бұрын
Hey Geekerwan, just wanted to ask a question; is there any chance to see better battery life from software updates that can maybe allow the limiting of the cpu? Also, does low power mode have a greater effect this time around with how powerful the chip is?
@Geekerwan
@Geekerwan 11 ай бұрын
Apple do update a lot but they probably won't tell you about battery life improvement. And low power mode is super low this time so expect good efficiency but do not use it in games.
@eedoamitay3341
@eedoamitay3341 11 ай бұрын
@@Geekerwan awesome, ty for the response!
@BeachClub_1
@BeachClub_1 11 ай бұрын
@@GeekerwanExcellent. Low power mode could substantially increase battery life this time if people do everything but gaming. Would you guys mind doing a battery life test in low power mode with the same 1hour test cycle done in normal mode - and post it afterwards? I believe many people would be interested. Thanx for this super detailed and great video
@nikosnikos6632
@nikosnikos6632 9 ай бұрын
​@@Geekerwanis it really limited to 1.5 watts this time in low power mode?
@GreenMan19961
@GreenMan19961 11 ай бұрын
This legend can never be rivaled by any other KZbinr in terms of performance testing vids
@bruhhh69
@bruhhh69 11 ай бұрын
That's some extremely exclusive nerdy content right there! Different from others you're in your own league! Love it ❤️
@stinky2202
@stinky2202 2 ай бұрын
Did you lose interest in KZbin already? Where are you?
@thefunnycascadedude
@thefunnycascadedude 2 ай бұрын
They still upload on their Chinese channel
@abhi36292
@abhi36292 2 ай бұрын
link​@@thefunnycascadedude
@陸
@陸 Ай бұрын
​@@abhi36292google 極客灣
@NoBakwas
@NoBakwas 11 ай бұрын
Was waiting for this
@ra.japanfrcs4274
@ra.japanfrcs4274 11 ай бұрын
LE :A17 LOOK AT ME I AM INTEL NOW
@superultrafabulous
@superultrafabulous 11 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 that’s right
@orewaluffy6555
@orewaluffy6555 10 ай бұрын
Ayshere neeyum tech prandhan
@rendevous9253
@rendevous9253 6 ай бұрын
Please bring more videos
@jonathanpusar5931
@jonathanpusar5931 11 ай бұрын
Gotta wonder what was the point of getting to 3nm in the first place if the gains were not only minor but also inefficient… We might have hit the manufacturing wall of thermals at 4nm. Not great for the future of chipset performance gains in the future :/
@BobMcBurger1
@BobMcBurger1 11 ай бұрын
3nm can perform multiple tasks simultaneously and use less energy. But do consider the fact that Apple always increases the speed of their chips, which in turn requires more energy. So trying to counteract what you are constantly improving isn't a walk in the park, yet they somehow do it year by year. Even if that may be marginal improvements. In the end, there are so many factors to consider in battery life. Including the level of intensity you put your phone through. Which many battery tests keep doing.
@jonathanpusar5931
@jonathanpusar5931 11 ай бұрын
@@BobMcBurger1 efficiency is efficiency. I don’t remember a single dye shrink in manufacturing done before not having a benefit in power consumption/power draw OR performance (and sometimes both). Neither is….concerning.
@BobMcBurger1
@BobMcBurger1 11 ай бұрын
@@jonathanpusar5931 Well, iPhone is the first smartphone with a 3nm chip. So we have nothing else to properly compare it to which has the same chip size.
@jonathanpusar5931
@jonathanpusar5931 11 ай бұрын
@@BobMcBurger1 exactly, so it’s concerning. Especially since Apple has a huge department working on chip design. It’s not like they’re some two bit company with no success figuring shit out They spent a lot of money securing first dibs on 3nm. No way did they spend that money if they intended on a small improvement. There must be an engineering reason we don’t know about…. I work in consumer goods, and in this industry it’s super hard to get any kind of real incremental gains that isn’t accentuated by us marketers. They spend the $$$$$ because they thought the ROI was worth it. Soooo….something is wrong
@Ben21756
@Ben21756 11 ай бұрын
@@BobMcBurger1 We can compare it with previous gen 4nm SoCs, the improvements are underwhelming. It isn't as efficient as we thought, and actually runs hotter.
@Unintelligent70
@Unintelligent70 9 ай бұрын
Hey! The Mediatek Dimensity is back with insane 9300 Can you test them?!
@KinoINFINITY
@KinoINFINITY 11 ай бұрын
12:08 8 gen 2 still beating apple on gpu using half amount of power Truly amazing Guess i have to wait for another iphone generation
@zlonewolf
@zlonewolf 11 ай бұрын
The A17 yes. But the A16 is just as efficient as the SD gen 2 at worse gaming performance but better in everything else such as video editing, battery life and software security and 90 hz refresh rate optimization.
@TheRealGigaCat
@TheRealGigaCat 11 ай бұрын
the point is. What will we do with that GPU when apple doesn't support emulators. Its a complete waste.
@KinoINFINITY
@KinoINFINITY 11 ай бұрын
​@@TheRealGigaCatyeah you are right But for this scenario I have redmagic 8 pro
@jonathanpusar5931
@jonathanpusar5931 11 ай бұрын
@@TheRealGigaCatit’s actually really easy to get emulators nowadays on iPhones. You don’t even have to jailbreak. I load Dolphin on my iPad all the time.
@TheRealGigaCat
@TheRealGigaCat 11 ай бұрын
@@jonathanpusar5931 all it has got is dolphin and ppsspp. There is nothing else. On the other side Android can emulate everything upto Nintendo switch. What I am trying to say is that iOS has a lack of apps itself. Developers don't take interest in it compared to Android where nearly all the emulators are open source and constant development goes on.. Not to mention the lack of proper file explorer in iOS. Android can even run some PC titles such as stray using box64 and DXVK translation layer. Same thing that steam deck uses. Even if iOS enables side loading. It will take years to reach where Android is in terms of community service.
@Mrterran
@Mrterran 11 ай бұрын
Dear god they even used a ROBOT ARM You don't see that everyday from tech reviewers, you guys have a new sub!
@WiseGuyFTW
@WiseGuyFTW 11 ай бұрын
This cannot be 3nm, there is something completely wrong with these chips given the insane power draw.
@ramseyrodriguez8515
@ramseyrodriguez8515 11 ай бұрын
Seems that indeed TSMC’s 3N is underperforming. Probably increased densities; but no meaningful power efficiency increase.
@SWIFTIESCHN
@SWIFTIESCHN 11 ай бұрын
TSMC has 3E and 3B
@maureed159
@maureed159 11 ай бұрын
I've been waiting for this. Thank you!
@Cakalank
@Cakalank 11 ай бұрын
Now this is what we tech people looking for! Great job and thanks
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