iPhone 17 Air Makes NO Sense | Genius Bar

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0:00 - Sam’s Stolen Intro 1:10 - Sam’s iPhone 17 Air 8:20 - 17 Air Pricing 14:05 - Sponsor - Stamps 15:40 - 17 Air Pricing continued 25:48 - Sponsor - UncommonGoods 27:25 - Apple Television 33:20 - AirTag 2nd Gen 37:40 - Recycle Bin Podcast 41:52 - Sponsor - DeleteMe 43:57 - GeniusBar vs MKBHD 44:40 - Reminiscing GeniusBar 49:40 - AirPods Max 56:12 - Sponsor - Notion 57:30 - Jon’s special treat 1:02:30 - Outro Turkey Rambles 1:04:00 - Goodbyes

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@@unquestionabletvyeah pretty sure….unless i was just imagine it this whole entire time, and I’m Mandela effecting it all in my memories…of this podcast being gold and blue… lololol…yeah I’m sure that’s it 🥹

[@BlakeLeasure]

The very first Apple product I bought with my very own money was a M4 Mac mini. Everything else was bought buy my parents or gifted by someone else. I know this has nothing to do with this episode but this podcast is my outlet. Been watching since 2020 when I needed it the most and haven't missed an episode since. You guys talking about how long you've been doing KZbin as a retrospective episode has just inspired me to mark in a comment what my first Apple product that was bought with my own money was. Hope you boys are doing well and I will keep watching as long as you keep respecting your GB fanbase. Love you boys. Keep up the great work! ❤

[@brettbianchi6706]

Apple really can’t make an “air” marketed device more expensive than a “pro”. It literally makes no sense.

[@JayWilFo]

What a great day! For today, I've been DP'd by Prosser! (DP as in Double Podcasted)

[@williamgray1236]

Same, totally downloaded the recycle bin podcast. So happy😂

[@cobrabtc]

Releasing an iPhone “air” that has less features than a pro phone and only has 1 camera but costs more. And still no 120 hz refresh??? No way! epic failure.

[@KlutchAndJerel]

Rumors say it will have 120hz. I could see it costing the same as the pro max. And it’ll sell decently. But it’ll prolly come out for 999

[@cobrabtc]

@@KlutchAndJerel hope it does have a higher refresh rate. But that high price has to be justified with more features and not just because it’s thinner. Don’t care about that. Would rather have more battery

[@wixonic]

Normal people don't care about cameras or screen quality, they just care about design. Apple is not only for tech people

[@cobrabtc]

@ well I have a non-techy teen daughter and she absolutely cares what the phone has (especially the cameras)

[@KlutchAndJerel]

@@cobrabtc not every model is for everyone. Sounds like ur daughter wants a pro max, the most expensive. But there are plenty of people who want a “smaller” (thinner and LIGHTER) phone. And as long as it’s battery gets through the day, and it has an excellent main camera, that’s prolly what me and a lotta other ppl with get

[@rocky710921]

53:12 Top 3 favorite apple products Jon? 1. IPad mini 2.AirPod max 3.?

[@rosestines66]

Both of you guys are still kids to me I will be 61 in April 😮

[@yodelingrats]

Happy thanksgiving guys! Praying that both of you and everyone you’re celebrating with have a great time and travel safe!

[@WiscoFisherman93]

Jon gonna one up shaving the eyebrows. Lmao I love it

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I love this podcast

[@iSam3000]

Me too

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I love the Genius Bar Podcast. You two are the best 🎉 Keep up the good work.

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In St.Louis, you hear fireworks all year round. The fireworks are gunfire....but it makes you feel better if you tell yourself someone is celebrating something at 2 AM in mid-November.

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Congrats Sam, on the new place!!!👍

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Seeing old Jon videos makes me even more proud of his progress

[@rosestines66]

Happy thanksgiving guys hope you have a great day guys ❤😊

[@sllick]

Bro spamming the comments

[@POVwithRC]

He is from a different era. Relax about it. ​@@sllick

[@unquestionabletv]

13:42 on Ecamm just add a Screen Share overlay instead of using Screen as the source for the scene. Then select 16:9 as the aspect ratio for the widget. You can still select the app if you want, but that makes it funky if you ever resize. So I guess you could use a separate display if you still want to do other things while sharing the browser window. Otherwise one other option would be to just add a whole browser widget itself directly into the scene by selecting the little web or browser icon in the Overlays Panel. There are some specific settings but in theory you can just use that browser overlay. There might be a little toggle to enable use of the browser itself but it works well.

[@dshmaytser]

Sam, you really can’t think of a product that got a major redesign, got smaller, with major structure changes, cooling system and etc, and the price didn’t get higher? Regular people won’t pay pro money for something that just got slimmer, no matter how much work will go into it.

[@colt5189]

The Apple TV will have a notch.

[@AppleTrack]

STOP

[@scottmatejka6613]

No way it’s $1400. If it’s 999 or higher zero point to get it. It would be a complete failure and sams price is ridiculous if there is no improvement or extra cameras. An iPhone SE will be a much better way to go and save almost $1000 lol it’s not a new design! It’s throw back design to iPhone 4 did you forget that phone? Just no bezels or home button and stretched. Stop new design comments. Yeah glass doesnt stick out. That was a bad idea lol

[@colt5189]

AirTag 2, make it smaller.

[@SuperStaaa]

I can wrap my head around one camera on the newer iPhones except for the fact that they’re pushing stereoscopic content on the entire 16 line and integrating tools in Final Cut Pro for editing that content. Unless they’re making a hard turn and only making it a pro feature again. Otherwise I totally welcome it! 18:42

[@mundaayn]

9:12 the 16+ midrange for the 16 series, calling a $900 phone (often much higher in most markets) midrange is ... notgud

[@Pr0teus14420]

My guess/hope with all these conflicting rumors is that we will see. iPhone 17 and iPhone 17 Pro - with the same design as last year. Then the iPhone 17 Air with the slimmer design, and an iPhone 17 Ultra with the new rectangular 3 sensor bump and overall new design, and higher than pro max pricing. Perfect; lineup and perfect marketing. iPhone, iPhone Air, iPhone Pro, and iPhone Ultra marketing.

[@appleztooranges]

Why would you want a thinner iPhone? I want a brick with 5 days battery life. Hell make it weight 20 lbs

[@Sashashka]

because some of us simply don’t need 2 day battery life and care about design & usability

[@rosestines66]

Greatest podcast ever ❤😊

[@NotGarrettG]

MY SON IS 4 YEARS OLD!

[@rosestines66]

Zollotech said it supposed have glass n metal on the back 😮

[@andriytroyan3888]

I am 99% sure that when promotion will be released on the standard model, the price will increase by 100 dollars

[@brandonmyers9660]

i read somewhere that there’s some variable aperture technology now and maybe the new iphone will have it, hence the only 1 camera lens: it’s funny people see the one camera and automatically think it’s a downgrade

[@goobfilmcast4239]

The most important feature set that Apple TV hardware will bring will be it's contribution to the Apple Ecosystem itself. Seamless fast switching between Mac OS (integrated?) and iPad/iPhone/wearables interface along with full integration with Apple Intelligence and HomeKit on sweet Apple hardware could be a hit.........but I am sure that Apple could do this much cheaper and way more mass-market by turning it into a Totally NEW Apple TV Dongle. Consider the reception of the new Mac M4 Minis. The customer buys the new "AI-Driven Dongle" and they decide how good their old TV is. Apple now lives on your TV. That's the value proposition they are selling.

[@janeS9773]

You are both very beautiful no matter what time and weight! So enjoyed this episode. Thank you.

[@markb1935]

39:13 I don’t think Sam has become passive and gentle, I think he’s become more emotionally intelligent and that’s what happens when you grow older and become more mature.

[@Seahawksnumber1]

tremendous videos !!!!

[@bryanrock105]

It only makes sense for phones to have less cameras if it’s an ultra wide sensor that can flawlessly crop in several times. Otherwise, you’re just losing functionality

[@MarcoTrafecanteLamboy]

Maybe it will have a single larger sensor and higher megapixels?

[@Shyamachandra]

Don’t forget to big up 200th episode

[@bignatemcbc]

TikTok is filled with people with no attention span. They watched 5 seconds of that video and made their own assumptions. My timeline was FILLED with people thinking there was a iphone 17 out!

[@MichaelJohnson-g1q]

Thanks for the forecast! A bit off-topic, but I wanted to ask: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). What's the best way to send them to Binance?

[@User-ju3zg]

Saying “Here’s an early look” does not make it clear that your video is based on rumors and not on any official Apple info or announcements. And you know it

[@1977NOBODY]

Definitely a banger episode from beginning to the end👍🏻I love giving you guys sh*t😂But the content is definitely entertaining🙂Happy Thanksgiving

[@armandov3128]

Guys. What Apple has to hit is the MARGIN Point !!! Not the Cost. Margin runs Apple

[@doompod]

If you think you’re old at 27, wait till 33. I turn 34 this week.

[@marcsequence]

33 next month… =‘]

[@Ch715A]

I’m 40. Officially middle aged. You guys are still young.

[@StarDarkAshes]

You have no idea. Wait until 50 when you start to think about things like “Maybe this is my last Christmas” You stop taking existence for granted. 😊

[@POVwithRC]

​@@StarDarkAshes"Maybe I shouldn't buy green bananas. What if I keel over before they are ripe"

[@Dave-cg9li]

No matter how advanced and slim it is, that's not what people care about. The thing people will notice is the single camera, making it look cheaper. Like the girl said, "it looks like the SE" - and it it's more expensive than the pro, then it's gonna be a huge flop 🤷‍♂️

[@RithvikR]

My bet is that they slot the iPhone Air in-between the iPhone 17 and the iPhone 17 Pro. A la the iphone X. Maybe they replace the plus model with it. 🤔

[@Visualization1]

i see quite a few AirPod Max on the trains here.

[@KlutchAndJerel]

I remember back when “video responses” were a big thing on KZbin, and they’d be recommended in their own section under a video. I think that was like 2009?

[@rosestines66]

I want it to be less than 13 hundred dollars 😮

[@qavonbrown]

Sam Is A Having A Kid👏🏽

[@Jerryhighroller1883]

Apples Black Friday is buying the chrome browser 😊

[@KlutchAndJerel]

If the price of the air falls between the base and the pro model ($800-$1000), I’ll prolly get the air. When the MBA came out, it was priced between the MacBook and the MacBook Pro But typing that out just now, it’ll prolly be 999.

[@chaotictattoo]

I have Beats Studio pro and used apple pro max and I can’t agree that they are soooooo much better. The trade offs make beats studio pro well worth it

[@rosestines66]

Find out more About Sam, we want the scoop from you on this

[@watchbavaria]

3:23 why I dislike the TikTok community as whole. Bruh, the most stupid people are lingering on TikTok.

[@KlutchAndJerel]

iPhone air prolly only has one camera to make more space for battery, cuz space in that thin a model comes at a premium.

[@Corbettmichael]

They have to do sizes. People have different sized entertainment areas. They have no choice but to make them in various sizes. Otherwise don’t bother at all.

[@kaarteeek]

remember genius bar episode 99.5 and 99.9? yeah good times

[@Keithen]

41:47 Sam really confuses me. I don't know how he can have the opinions and beliefs he has, and that I share with him, but then simp for Elon and Tesla. All of the Tesla simps that live their life a certain way, will just throw it all away for Tesla and Elon. It's just weird, and is the reason I can relate more to Jon, cause he sees the confusion in picking an "idol" and just keeps things to his actual core behavior.

[@Sashashka]

Can’t wait for a decent iPhone that’s finally not a literal brick. Love slim devices

[@MarcBigio]

iPad Air started off as a ultra thin new premium design. Makes sense for iPhone air to be the same.

[@gefthetalkingmongoose]

Congrats on the most viewed content ever! Take that SuperBowl!

[@melgross]

We don’t yet know if Apple will be making one of these. Or, if they do, what the features would be. So these discussions are really premature.

[@RunForPeace-hk1cu]

iPhone17 Air makes perfect sense to get rid of iPhone 17/17+ Make iPhone SE4 the "cheap model" Make iPhone17Air the "base model" ... for everyday users who just wants a light phone with a big screen. (but they are upsell the model because it's lighter) Make iPhone 17Pro/PM the "pro model"

[@troyredway6427]

So if its Cheap Sam losses, if its expensive Jon loses

[@rosestines66]

Will you Sam have that crazy 🤪 color lights in the background 😂

[@Gael_AG]

Sam , Apple Will never release an 8k tv for one single reason - the EU market that banned 8k tv on march 2023

[@EVPaddy]

With just one camera no spatial videos, though

[@Motawa88]

Pretty sure the single camera in the 17 air will get AI zoom enhance. On device of course

[@BMar1andonly]

You’ll will be so disappointed when the 17 looks just like the 16.

[@alexh2665]

if anything the iphone air is just the iphone 17 pro cuz we know apple wants to go back to making things smaller and thinner. like with the M4 ipad pro

[@rosestines66]

Please don’t shave your head Jon n I don’t remember that either 😮

[@Jamesthor]

I don’t want a company to go out there to the data brokers and request that my information be deleted. What I want, is the name and address of the data brokers. And then I will solve everybody’s problem.

[@rosestines66]

It’s supposed to be a 17 slim instead of 17 air 😮

[@Shyamachandra]

Is the doc on - Sam’s bio?

[@luke_1234]

The iPhone is thin enough as it is, just give me better battery life

[@GabrielCapo24]

18:23

[@c.daubz.5386]

6:55 peoples brain on tiktok, no sense of reality

[@miketko]

guys, tic Tok isn't honest with view numbers.

[@earnhar768]

My gut says this iPhone 17 air or whatever doesn’t release next year and it is the same design as the iPhone 16 cause that feels more like apple to me 😆

[@dan9700]

I would use KZbin money to not rent but by a property

[@dangmatic]

Add chapters please

[@user-oj8ss4zq3x]

If the iPhone air is a thing it’s gonna be the equivalent to the MacBook Air compared to the MacBook Pro just a downgraded version

[@jezusrvd]

I think Sam needs to learn Chinese to get to a whole new world of leaks.

[@OldSlyEyes]

this phone is gonna flop

[@theelysium]

You two aren’t elderly now! 😅😂

[@ZannySvj]

All i heard was sponsors 👎

[@MickiMinach]

Here we go again with the "I will delete my KZbin channel" bet Sam 🤣

[@ZannySvj]

1hour episode 3 sponsors trash

[@alpacamale2909]

Sheepple

[@Tipseeee]

😂🎉

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[@ldfjlas]

u know what doesn't make sense? buying a new iphone when a 3 year old iphone is still faster than anybody needs

[@doompod]

No Agenda is the best podcast in the universe. You will never compare.

[@aelaan12]

ITM

[@marcsequence]

Just clicked…..black and red backgrounds again? 😒

[@CenturyMooseCentral]

2025

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Tim Cook doesn't have a boyfriend, he has an Android

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