iPhone 4 Prototypes You've Never Seen (Until Now) - Krazy Ken's Tech Talk

[@ComputerClan]

Enjoy the new episode! Also, Apple's new M2 MacBook Air is dropping soon and I have a couple plans for that! So subscribe and stay tuned! 😈 I have another prototype Mac to share soon, as well! It's a Quadra 700-aka the "hacker" computer from Jurassic Park! 🦕

[@meh3247]

This isn't an episode, it's a weak advert for a nonsense product and future landfill. Cheerio, you soulless husk that was once human.

[@danielyaseen]

Ken is spoiling us lol

[@danielyaseen]

@@meh3247 What are you talking about?

[@SqueakySqueak]

@UCVbqTiPrLlPb19I6YoHcG6w I don't know what he is talking about.

[@cpyt]

I don't care about linode and if I hear about that stupid thing one more time I am going to scream my head off

[@davidshepherd265]

I still remember the joke - "iPhone 4: Loses bars when you hold it, gets lost in bars when you don't" :D

[@ComputerClan]

Oh yeah xp

[@abdelali9279]

Since that iPhone 4 prototype was "left behind" in that bar, I became somewhat paranoid with these convenient leaks, like I know some are doing it for free marketing and word of mouth spread, but hey , that's just me, it might really just be a coincidence after all.

[@GoatDust]

@Jaquan Kelsor yup, it’s morally wrong to manipulate individuals as an individual, but if you’re a corporation with more power than 99.999% of individuals, have at it. And do it to thousands/millions of people

[@SEMIA123]

The iPhone 4 event was geninue, we know this because of Apples response which included sending the cops after the Gizmodo guy. It's pretty well documented at this point that Google pixel leaks are entirely faked though, doesn't help that a few years ago they openly said they were going to drip feed info to prevent leaks and now they want to pretend their leaks are geninue.

[@Locutus]

Companies like Apple, Google, et al, do deliberately "leak" information, to see what the market reaction is, from time to time. The iPhone's headphone jack removal was more than likely "leaked" by Apple, to see the reaction and soften up people to the idea of no headphone jack.

[@2ManyGoats]

I figure that is just common knowledge

[@Fetidaf]

I think very few are on purpose. The iPhone 4 for example was 100% an accident. By all accounts Steve Jobs was f-cking furious. And knowing him he would’ve much rather had it still be a surprise come the unveil than to increase hype.

[@Zookegger]

Ah the iPhone 4, my first iPhone. With a measly 8GB of space, I don’t know how I survived with that much space back in the day.

[@NonsensicalSpudz]

you survived because it wasn't small at the time for a phone in general

[@EvilTurkeySlices]

I have the 32gb model, it was my dads and he got it on Christmas Eve 2010. It then became mine when he upgraded to a 4s.

[@xr6lad]

And you didn’t need to download 20 movies and a hundred apps, 89 of which you barely used.

[@h4y13y6]

I barely survived with 32gb💀

[@michaelbelcevski1348]

Hahaha, I remember picking up my aunts 8GB 1st gen and being so impressed 😂

[@Peeps40836]

It’s crazy to think that the iPhone 4/4s was my introduction to iPhones and smartphones in general and how crazy it was thinking you can do so many stuff with just a small glass rectangle. Sadly, that wasn’t my first iPhone I ever owned since that was the iPhone 5c. Also, never realized that the iPhone 4 was released 12 years ago until you mentioned it. I thought it was like 8-9 years.

[@ryzenryne8747]

Time flies really fast

[@graealex]

I started my smart phone career with a Fujitsu-Siemens Pocket Loox T830 in 2006, a full year before the first iPhone was released here in Europe, which also started with outlandish conditions regarding carriers and contracts. Anyway, the Windows CE based devices could do everything that the iPhone did, but were just so damn complicated that they never received mainstream attention. Now we all carry little glass rectangles, that all look the same, and can about all do the same stuff.

[@bramvandenbroeck5060]

5:40 That "Say to hello to the Newton Messagepad 3000" is so awesome to see :p Nice video man!

[@calorion]

I can’t believe he didn’t comment on that! What’s the deal there?

[@elhasmusic]

That transition at 4:38 was smooth. Just wanna appreciate that.

[@xr6lad]

Love your channel. Unlike another similar channel that will remain nameless but starts with T.C your videos do not waffle on and get to the point and are half the length. Yet cover just as much without the grandstanding.

[@petergplus6667]

Still pretty weird that engineers didn't expect any problems when customers touch the antennas and short them.

[@flamingkillermc2806]

Hey ken I would love a video going over “Apple Demo Mac’s” and their demo software, their is basically almost no information on them on online also like how the youtube channel “Mac Address had a accidental demo mac from the refurbished store that has “Demo User, and Demo Admin”

[@flamingkillermc2806]

But I could not find a demo mac unit with the demo software anywhere to buy even on ebay.

[@flamingkillermc2806]

Demo aplle phones are on ebay so more info is scattered across online.

[@FluffyPuppyKasey]

@@flamingkillermc2806 I used to work for Best Buy. Apple only shipped out enough demo Macs for us to display. If they were broken in any way we'd have to order a new one

[@ericbauer4559]

The iPhone 4 was my second iPhone. I loved that thing. Didn't experience antenna gate myself but I was able to duplicate the issue once it became known.

[@danielyaseen]

I haven't watched this yet, but I know it's going to be good since I used my iPhone 4 up until 2020 (as a backup phone)😀 Edit: In the comments people are saying they use their iPhone as a music player, and I still use it for that purpose myself! I think you should get it bc it’s basically the iPod Touch “Pro” (in a way)

[@Villager_U]

i use my iphone 4 as a music player,the speaker on that lil boy is amazing

[@matthewcarpenter4716]

LOL! I still use mine to store and play music at the house. It is a glorified iPod Touch now

[@Trevorodunne]

@@Villager_U Still use my IPHONE 4 as a music player with Bluetooth device works great

[@leontechtalks]

I use my 4s for old games. It’s running iOS 5.

[@danielyaseen]

I still use it as a music player myself, even though it isn’t a backup phone!

[@RandomBogey]

Man, I vividly remember getting my first iPhone, the iPhone 4, like it was yesterday. 12 years ago is wild…

[@seanplace8192]

iPhone 4 was definitely a big step forward for smartphones. It introduced the front-facing camera, high resolution displays, and put a big emphasis on improving the rear camera quality. It's the reason I chose to get one when they finally came to Verizon.

[@TheRailroad99]

It was also really popular. Basically the first iPhone that you could easily spot in the wild

[@jamarforsythe7262]

It was the first iPhone with a Front Facing Camera, The Galaxy S already had one by this time although not as popular as the iPhone was then.

[@Fetidaf]

@@jamarforsythe7262that came out 3 days before the iPhone event lol. While I agree it wasn’t the first phone with a front camera, it was not only the most popular phone with it but I’d argue that it was the only phone to actually utilize it effectively with FaceTime. I don’t remember the Samsung having that functionality.

[@TommyCrosby]

The iPhone 4 was the only phone that I purchased outright on launch day and it was a blast. The "retina" or high DPI screen started an era where most people best screen they own is their smartphone.

[@DavisMakesGames]

And I thought my 4S with a clear back glass panel I had was cool...

[@Laluan]

I had the same!! Everyone was jealous 😎

[@JackGoo7792]

@@Laluan same except mine wasn’t all clear it was partly clear and no camera lens

[@JamesnLollify]

Awesome video, Ken. These prototypes are crazy. Truly a shame the white one wasn't the Exposé prototype.

[@TheVHSReviver]

I hope you are able to dump and preserve the apps and other software so it does not become lost. DankPods showcased a few, but one of them had been resynced and the original software was lost.Would hate to see more rare software become lost.

[@cookinwithkenny]

Who's dankpods?

[@amorathecat]

@@cookinwithkenny go look up his KZbin channel, you won’t be disappointed!

[@Locutus]

The phones are not his.

[@ibazur]

9:10 these holes were cut for easy acces for RF-switch connectors (you can see it thorugh) basically they seemed to be providing RF signal directly to the motherboard in conducted mode via coax cable, rather than via built in OTA (over the air) antennas, as signal going through coax is less prone to interferences caused by surroundings. Still you can find such ports in commercial units of non-iphone manufacturers.

[@zumuvtuber]

It's always so cool to see these prototypes! The iPhone 4 and 4S have a special place in my heart, since in my opinion they still feel like the most comfortable and beautiful iPhones ever made (if we're purely talking about the dimensions/form factor of course). I can't help but imagine what it would be like to have modern hardware and software on one of these bad boys (along with a full-screen experience instead of the huge chin and forehead of course!)

[@zacharybishop6595]

It really is a beautiful phone. I think the 4 and 5S were the best looking phones.

[@FinlayDaG33k]

2:45 When I heard "only a small percentage of users"... I had to chuckle considering that's still the excuse they use today :^)

[@xr6lad]

Actually today they just pretend there isn’t a problem unless it’s gets into the media.

[@balorth]

This is what I came to the comments to see,it took awhile to find

[@MiguelRodriguez2010]

Fantastic trip down memory lane!

[@monarchyyyy]

Still using my Iphone 4S for playing lossless music for sometime, the sound were better than most low-end android phones and it only cost me $5

[@nikkigrace5288]

Great use case. ALAC still sounds amazing on iPhone 4+

[@monarchyyyy]

@@nikkigrace5288 yeah, playing ALAC format using 4S is such a joy to listen.

[@EvilTurkeySlices]

iPhones have great headphone amps, shame the newer ones don’t have headphone jacks.

[@ndc5544p]

this was a great video! I would love to see more such prototype videos about other apple devices

[@עידוכסלו]

4:00 From here he talks about the Death Star iPhone. No need to thank me

[@cathevans9859]

Absolutely fascinating video, more like this please.

[@tgm6521]

I remember blowing one of these iPhone 4's up by mistake when they first came out. A friend of mine was complaining the headphone jack wasnt working. There was loads of lint inside the jack and in the process of removing the lint with a needle, I poked the needle a little too far and a 3 inch flame burst out of the top through the headphone jack, launching the needle from it and severely burning it in the process. Safe to say that iPhone never lived to see another day...

[@Nanomaroni]

My favorite iPhone Design! Would love to be able to switch the iOS Theme to iOS6.

[@GERMANIA292]

the "bat assy" part had me cracking up

[@Mainyehc]

I almost feel stupid for never having thought of the iPhone 3GS-like case as being the main culprit of Antennagate, but in hindsight, it makes complete sense. Also, Apple using Myriad Pro to set the “Prototype” label would likely only work to disguise it in China, where familiarity with Western typography isn’t as deep or pervasive. Anyone from the Latin sphere with a bit of design knowledge would instantly be able to guess it was an Apple prototype from a mile away.

[@Locutus]

I do agree that the typography should have been a non Apple font, but, no one seeing that label on the back is automatically going to think "This is an Apple product". Sure, like I said, it doesn't help Apple.

[@olepigeon]

5:36 - "Say hello to the Newton MessagePad 3000." Hehe. Did other versions of iOS get the same nickname? Would be fun if the developers all referred to it as the new MessagePad. :D

[@DeadCanDance31]

no and yes. luke miani made a video on the first iphone prototype and UI, and there’s always a unit that has this operating system to test out if the camera and other components are working properly. it’s the same testing api, so it does have the same “newton messagepad 3000” message, too. that’s not an ios beta or something, but we technically can consider it is for the original iphone

[@Randy.E.R]

Thank you for sharing this. I visited your channel last night for the first time. I am not sure what led me to it, but have watched a few of your videos; good stuff. I don't see a lot these products advertised, but I don't spend much time on a computer. My job doesn't require much computer use other than to enter my time sheets, and I am seldom on one at home. But, I know there is a lot of scam products out there. Walmart has built an empire selling cheap worthless junk. Your video on the iPhone 4 was interesting. I was one of the original critics that believed the iPhone would be a passing fad; a gimmick. At the time, I really didn't believe that people were so attached to the power of a computer that they would want one in their pocket. Boy, was I wrong. The invention of the smart phone has certainly changed the world. It took me a few years to get on board with a smartphone. To be honest, I was afraid of one. I didn't think I would be able to figure one out, but it was easier than I thought. I have heard, and it may be a rumor, that the processing power of an iPhone is equal to the computers used in the original Space Shuttle. That is impressive if it is true. It's no wonder Steve Jobs's estate is worth billions.

[@skuula]

Any antenna loses some signal when holding it... It is de-tuned (but that can be fixed through automatic re-tuning), and the body just absorbs some signal.

[@matthewcarpenter4716]

THAT WAS MY FIRST iPhone AND I LOVED IT. I have been a Apple user and fan ever since

[@danielyaseen]

Same! I loved mine!

[@saurabhkulkarni8854]

Hey Ken, great video, but you said switchboard is an early version of ios, well it's not. It's a completely different system just for testing and diagnosis for the engineers.

[@DeetexSeraphine]

The 4 was my first iPhone, quite a leap from my TouchDiamond running _entirely_ the wrong version of windows Mobile... had a first-gen 4, Gate and all... until eventually replacing it for a five that stuck with me for far too long.

[@shenysys]

I was going to say Retro Hour podcast brought me here but I started watching a week before your interview was on the podcast.

[@GDmashups25]

Great video and happy 15 years iPhone anniversary

[@alejandromorazan3420]

Man I remember the iphone 4, the screen was unbelievable at the time, never seen such a sharp display back then.

[@EvilTurkeySlices]

It still looks really great.

[@mintybudgie]

anyone noticed that computer clan is only sponsored by linode

[@GoshkaPolska]

5:19 Didn't know the Decepticons used to workfor Apple... and Darth Vader?...

[@smoll.miniatures]

I remember my phone 4 had loads of qr codes and labels all over it upon opening. It was weird and probably with a fortune now if I look back 😂 not the norm

[@ondrejsedlak4935]

I actually got to see a white iPhone 4 before it was released to the public. It was from a distance as it was being held by Stephen Fry during one of his gigs in Melbourne Australia. I believe his was serial number 2, as number 1 went to Steve Jobs and number 3 went to Douglas Adams, or something along those lines. I honestly didn't really care as I was a staunch Nokia N900 supporter but there you go.

[@rollsroycer123rbx9]

I like how "serial number" just has a box of Cheerios as the picture in 5:21 lol

[@ComputerClan]

Oh I LOVE that part. 😂

[@LR-1977]

The “iPhone 4” was the only iPhone that actually was named properly to its generation, as the iPhone 4 has the A4 chip, while the iPhone 5 was A6, and so on, now we have the 13 with A15!

[@calorion]

Plus it was the 4th iPhone!

[@glumdrops3678]

Ohh the IPhone 4, my very first phone was an IPhone 4s and I think about her every single day. 8gbs of space and I got her like in the iPhone 7 era too. But you know what she was so sweet.

[@slizgi86]

Antenna gate was not blown out of proportion, I had iP4 it was dropping cellular data when I hold it "wrong", bumper solve the problem.

[@qwertyuiop711]

i LOVE the dankpods refrence with the "skankphone"

[@BobM925]

My first smartphone, iPhone and Apple product. Happy memories of the 4!

[@jaybrooks1098]

Still have my iphone 4 and 4s. They are beautiful phones. Wish they had a ipad that was made like it

[@uzaiyaro]

My M1 iPad Pro gives me big iPhone 4 vibes. Ditto iPhone 12 and above.

[@mincraft0990]

When i saw skankphone in the intro, i already knew what i was getting into. I watched a dankpods video about some original iphone prototypes had some stuff including that skankphone i talked about

[@NZSpides]

The iPhone 4s was the first brand new iPhone I bought (I managed to get a hold of an original release iPhone and had to fix the broken screen - that was fun). I loved the new design over the rounded look of the 3 and 3Gs. I still have the 4s in a box, but obviously don't use it any more. I bought the 6+ model and was disappointed with the new rounded shape of the phone, and the 8+ I bought after that, and the 11+ Pro Max as well. So I'm really hoping that the 14+ model is holding to the form factor of the 12 and 13 models. I want to get a hold of a new battery for the 4s at some stage, it's still in pretty good condition considering I used it for 3 years, and both of my kids have as well! Bag Apple as much as you like, they make good hardware.

[@penfold7800]

just the option of 'brick device' in the test os proves that apple wrote software to trigger that. Now, to be completely brickable would mean that the hardware chips themselves have the ability to irretrevably disable thier operation. This is sounding a lot like military grade failsafe construction. ...also useful if you want to ensure a limited life span of the device.

[@Angrycatgames-xj8wb]

That’s very dark📱

[@jamarforsythe7262]

You missed one thing, first off the Antenna issue was not blown out of proportion, it was a real issue with every device they put out that year. Yes, customers could avoid the issue by holding it differently, but it was a design issue. Apple failed to do proper validation on the design. For Apple to not expect that customers hands would eventually short the antennas was very bad on Apple's part. Customers were also very keen on customizing with cases which helped solve the issue for many. The one thing you missed though is that Apple started putting a very thin plastic layer on the antennas. Idk what specific type of plastic it was coated with, but every now and then when I come across an iPhone 4 I see the layer peeling in certian areas. This helped reduce the amount of surface areas customers hands could possibly short the antennas.

[@yeeterlol]

Haven't watched this yet but this video is gonna be amazing

[@Th3Pull3rb0y99]

Incredibly what a big jump it was between iPhone 3Gs and iPhone 4. Nowadays with a new release there are new colors, slightly better camer. done!

[@leontechtalks]

I love my 4S. It’s still running well on iOS 9.3.5 but isn’t fast.

[@Locutus]

To be honest, the iPhone 4's shape still holds up well today. The only thing that dates it, is the bezels!

[@the-np4mr]

I miss bezels, that's beauty right there

[@TransitOfVenus0]

I'd love a video with a bit more showcase of just the software on these devices :)

[@ncb4_69]

Apple sees this video: Also apple: sue 'em bois

[@danielyaseen]

lol

[@Crimson_Logic]

I liked the iPhone 4. Was a really nice iPhone design. The 4S improved the design, by fixing the antenna band locations. Oh the amount of money Apple have got from me, when I wanted every new iPhone.

[@NormsPotatoTek]

Like seeing prototypes on apple's creation of devices and pc's

[@goiterlanternbase]

Like the sponsor👍 No data grab scam.

[@appleinfl]

Good memories. I had an iPhone 4 I paid for the Chinese part kit to convert mine to white. It had the prototype light sensor design that was spotty at best. Still worth it to have every girl in high school asking how I got the white iPhone.

[@stevenjlovelace]

That Death Star phone isn't very well camouflaged. It uses the same font and layout as other iPhones.

[@Thomas-yr9ln]

I have a iPhone 14 plus and I know it's not the best but I'm happy with it. No matter what you have there's usually a better model so you have to be Happy with what you have our you will go through life a unhappy camper. 😊

[@PedroBastozz]

My first iPhone was a 3gs and my second one was the 4s. This and the xs are the only ones innever had,

[@alexandercole7971]

More love back then no copy and past last years model

[@thecarrieshot6411]

I see Linode a lot as a sponsor

[@OntarioBearHunter]

Had an iPhone 4 for work and it made my decision to switch my personal phone from BlackBerry to Samsung easier to make.

[@WalnutSpice]

Old story I always like to tell of the iPhone 4, back in 2012 me and my brother were out camping somewhere where we had a camper and lake access. We had gone out to the lake, and my brother forgot he had his iPhone 4 in his pocket, jumping into the lake. Thing fell out his pocket, onto the bottom of the lake. We had found it an hour later, underwater. Took it back to camp, no rice, no nadda, plugged it in and it turned right on. One of the most well designed indestructible smartphones ever made. Another one, my mom that following winter lost her iphone 4 in an iced over CVS parking lot. It was ran over and later found by the plow truck, putted across the lot. It was returned to my mom when he got out of his truck, picked it up, and it just worked. He called my dad from the contacts and the phone, altho shattered, still worked after all that. These were just such, such solid phones. Theyd never make something like it again.

[@xr6lad]

Now double the price half the quality.

[@brunoglopes]

I love how to make the device more inconspicuous they slap the word “Prototype” in a bold font on the back lmao

[@ComputerClan]

Nothing to see here. 👀 Apple did the same thing with the G4 Cube. I have a shell that has “Prototype” silk screened on the back in Apple Garamond font.

[@NeverlandSystemZor]

I had a 4s for YEARS... it was a solid phone.

[@MicroTechCenter]

Is there a white death star prototype?

[@andresbravo2003]

Now we can see it in person.

[@cirkulx]

Yes, I grabbed my iPhone 3,1 when I saw this in my notifications.

[@danielyaseen]

I grabbed my iPhone 4

[@Prowindows62]

ooo lime

[@EvexiansVideoworks]

How do you manage to get all those ???

[@prestoncheapbtheadphoneste3010]

Watch the video again and listen 👂. 🫤

[@AbdAbdAbdAbd]

Is this the prototype from the bar?

[@ComputerClan]

It's not exactly a black and white yes/no answer. The episode explains all the details ; )

[@BeantownMrs]

iPhone 4 was my first iPhone!❤

[@pineappleroad]

I do wonder what the purpose behind the “brick” button was

[@LoopyChew]

Ken: REVERSI! Subtitles: (indistinct) Fire the subtitlers! They're obviously too young to appreciate Reversi!

[@ComputerClan]

Ha. Fixed!

[@locouk]

If every phone came with a Brick Phone button, I wonder how many people would press it only to instantly regret it?

[@elguero117]

You look like Ron Swansons son. From parks and recreation 🤣😂🤣

[@spacexplorer_]

New outro music?

[@Forrest_O.]

I almost forgot about this video.

[@mklgtr43]

this is like dnakpods video when he reviews those prototype ipods

[@rolfathan]

Please do other iconic phones too. Blackberry, HTC G1/Hero, Nokia 1100, old Razrs, etc, anything you can get your hands on that shaped the industry down the line that have prototypes.

[@reputationtaylorsversion]

The cutouts are likely for the FCC test

[@ThomasNeal]

5:01 triggered siri on my ipad lmao

[@lordmmx1303]

well, steve's press conferences are really rare these days.

[@Retikulum01]

6:44 🤣🤣🤣

[@TomCravenUK]

I think this episode should have been longer.

[@milk-dog]

At least you won't likely need a wierd case to be a tester of the base model iPhone 14. At least judging by rumors.

[@Roshan_420]

I wonder what the iPhone 13 pro prototype looks like

[@3mad0s]

Wow donglebook pro pushed his channel; he also loaned Luke Miani the original iPhone prototypes too

[@princefluff08]

Why is it called Deathstar? That's CLEARLY a Pokéball!

[@JaredRoe]

Am I the only one who saw an ad for one of those miracle ac units before watching this video? The exact same product that was featured in a scam tech episode on this same channel. Irony.

[@ComputerClan]

Yeah... ad tracking does that. x_x Thanks for watching!

[@JaredRoe]

@@ComputerClan getting paid by the shady swamp cooler industry. How do you sleep at night?

[@TonyLasagna]

Great vidya as always, Ken. Personally, I miss the GB logo. What do you think? Edit: ah, the white iPhone. I waited so long for that to come out, and for it to come to Verizon - carrier at the time. They turned into real pieces of dog sh**!

[@almosgalambos1640]

These probably worth a lot.

[@nosajgames]

Luke Miana and your channel drop rare iPhone gems. Hmmm…