IPSWICH TOWN: Alf Ramsey’s English Champions

[@WhatifDocumentaries3417]

ISSUE 6 IS FINALLY HERE! What other English teams should we cover in the future?

[@cherellegrant7439]

As an Ipswich fan for 30 years I have not seen a more in depth video on this season- great research

[@yippeeki-yay1691]

The days before English football sold itself to the devil in 1992.

[@thediddymen1408]

Ipswich are also the only English side never to have lost a European home game !

[@philippeh3904]

Back when the football clubs were more on a level playing field. It was normal for a team to get promoted and challenge. And maybe even win the first division immediately. Now it’s impossible

[@WhatifDocumentaries3417]

@@philippeh3904 it all started at the end of this season when the maximum wage got abolished

[@borderlands6606]

@@WhatifDocumentaries3417 Maximum wage, 2 points for a win, end of gate money sharing, and ultimately the premier league and TV cash, have all shaped the us-and-them game of today.

[@WhatifDocumentaries3417]

and extending that to Europe: the end of communism and the bosman rule (even though it was good for the world), stopped smaller clubs retaining players

[@jameswiglesworth5004]

Absolute nonsense, up to 1992, 30 years after Ipswich, only Derby County and Notts Forest won the league as outsiders, the other 28 years were all big clubs.

[@WhatifDocumentaries3417]

@@jameswiglesworth5004 Aston Villa in ‘81 surely outsiders despite their history. And there were a lot of clubs who went close: QPR, Southampton, Ipswich, West Ham, Sheff Wed all came close in the last 15-20 years of the old first division.

[@Madkid73]

Another boss video this, fair play. 👍

[@bradenstewart6270]

Love the return to actual full screen footage makes the mini docs much more enjoyable I think

[@WhatifDocumentaries3417]

They’re all like this this week - it is better I agree

[@peterpereira3653]

What a fantastic video about the team I support. Ray Crawford in 1970-71 scored hat-tricks in the League, FA Cup, League Cup and European Cup. Making him the first player to do so.

[@WhatifDocumentaries3417]

Glad you enjoyed it: another Ipswich video coming tomorrow.

[@iansharp6593]

A little fine tuning on your comment: Ray didn't score these hat tricks in 1970-71, but had done so by then.

[@creative_soul-recolo]

Fantastic doccie. I know this story has been done numerous times but a history of Brian Clough and Peter Taylor and the clubs that they were associated with.

[@WhatifDocumentaries3417]

I’ve done one on Clough’s Forest, should be in the England or Issue 0 playlist. Do plan on doing more on them though.

[@staceyskinner666]

What a great video

[@glfirst4247]

Excellent video. Thanks. I was at the early home game where we lost 2-4 to Man City. At no point at that time was I thinking Ipswich would be champions. More likely struggling against relegation. Next match I saw was against Arsenal at end of the season, 2-2. Great match and huge crowd. A bit of a crush so us small boys were allowed to sit on the grass in front of the old Portman stand. Would n't be allowed these days. Elf and safety.

[@coolfool64]

Fun fact about IpswichTown during WW2: They were the only club in the football league not to kick a ball during this time. They ruled out footballing activities at the outbreak of war. Great video as well.

[@WhatifDocumentaries3417]

Thanks, and thanks for sharing that.

[@iansharp6593]

From wikipedia: In 1914, the ground was commandeered by the British Army for use as a training camp for the duration of the First World War. Control of Portman Road was not returned to the club until two years after the end of the war and significant work was required to repair damage to the ground caused by heavy machinery. So Portman Road wasn't used for football in both World Wars. [Obviously, WW1 was during the club's amateur days.]

[@Bruno-m2f]

The goat is back, I haven’t even watched the video yet and I’m so intrigued. Can you do the late 90s to early 00s Leeds

[@WhatifDocumentaries3417]

Here it is, I already did it for my older channel: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4TKlaqYgdOhbbs&ab_channel=WhatIfFootball Any old documentaries are in the 'Issue 0' playlist on my channel.

[@Bruno-m2f]

@ in that case can you do leicesters ascension to the top. Thanks for the link this Leeds vid will be crucial during lunch

[@WhatifDocumentaries3417]

@@Bruno-m2f I've done that one too, hope you've got a big lunch kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5_XdI2pqK1oiNk&ab_channel=WhatIfFootball

[@nigelstannard7443]

My late father was on ipswich books back in the day 😊

[@Sidneyyoungblood75]

Was he a keeper? I think a Jim or Ray Stannard. Might have played for Fulham???

[@Sidneyyoungblood75]

Apologies. Jim Stannard is still alive. 🤦‍♂️

[@paulpotter6191]

How did Ipswich Town manage to have two of the best English managers as there manager.

[@yippyialeftside8351]

great well produced , great footage, great smaller club south of Birmingham but not in London small ctiy stroke Town

[@bobsmudger3979]

Best fitba channel bar none!

[@WhatifDocumentaries3417]

@@bobsmudger3979 thanks mate

[@jontalbot1]

What you missed is Ramsey was the only English coach to attend the 1958 World Cup finals and saw Brazil. They had abandoned the old W formation to play 424 and 433. That was where the overlapping fullbacks came in. In the old formation there were five forwards so full backs were just that. They won the First Division playing the new system. The following season everyone played it.

[@WhatifDocumentaries3417]

Thanks for sharing.

[@jllewellyn3776]

I saw every home game that season. Billy Baxter was the best centre back the club ever had.

[@bashaarat]

U deserve more subs

[@jamiethomson537]

To win Division 2 title and then win Division 1 the next season awesome achievement.

[@WhatifDocumentaries3417]

Will probably never be done again. Leicester of 2016 will be the closest we ever get and they needed the perfect conditions to do so.

[@jamiethomson537]

@WhatifDocumentaries3417 1976/77 Nottingham Forest came 3rd in Division 2, next season 1977/78 Division 1 champions. Last team to do this.

[@WhatifDocumentaries3417]

@@jamiethomson537 and then the European Cup, which is even more impossible in these days. It'd be like Sunderland winning the Champions League in 2027.

[@lthompson7625]

Everton had a great run in the early 1930s. 1931 Div 2 champs, 1932 Div1 champs, 1933 FA Cup winners. By the way, l recall seeing the Ipswich title - winning team at Goodison but can’t remember much about the game at all. I’m getting old😀

[@davem9204]

Was Jimmy Leadbetter 60 years old when he was born?

[@John-r9x5h]

62.

[@paulstamp4106]

Wanted to watch this but the background music and effects were to irritating

[@raymondbonington9355]

A Dagenham lad who had elocution lessons to get rid of his east London accent, funny one that .great manager though .

[@lestrem11]

When we pay for them to stay in hotels etc. they are, child.👍

[@lestrem11]

Eek , wrong site, sorry.

[@MrGranfield]

To rub it in Burnley lost the Cup Final 3-1 to Spurs.

[@mervynhardy6161]

Did he say Roy Poimter?

[@WhatifDocumentaries3417]

Ray Pointer 😂

[@jckensway2956]

Would have watched this if, just a minute in, my club wasn't immediately consigned to Premiership relegation in 2025. What a hopeless way to engage an audience.

[@WhatifDocumentaries3417]

Plenty have 'engaged', Ipswich fans included, and my critique obviously isn't on Ipswich themselves, since I referred to them as a 'breath of fresh air' and referred to the topic of the video as 'more innocent times' in comparison to today, making it a critique on modern football...

[@Dinobaburas.]

english football... Foreign owners with foreign managers and foreign mercenaries with an average of 9 Foreign players from 11.the only thing english is the name on the door,and that's debatable if the money is right!