Patrick French: Indian democracy fails on almost every count - IQ2 debate

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Patrick French argues in favour of the motion "Democracy is India's Achilles' heel" at the Intelligence Squared debate on 27th September 2011 at the Royal Geographical Society.

[@siddhartharjun2544]

We Indians can't argue. He is stating facts.

[@anujkhanna2428]

Siddharth Arjun sorry but he is not stating facts instead he is just exaggerating them.

[@aniruddhavenkatakrishnan5237]

I don't think so... To say that it fails on every count is to say that it doesn't function. It does, in every way since 1947 Also, there is no proof to show bias of the EC, hence you can't say that our democracy fails to 'function' You cannot blame 'Indian democracy' (there is no such thing). India is a constitutional republic. You cannot blame the system for the people that are running it. Also, India is a country with 1.2 billion people, and u must understand it is difficult to control all of them

[@vahsirartapaham4578]

Aniruddha it is difficult to control only in a dumb democratic system . We need one party system . Just watch and learn from china . IMO there should be a test before each election concerning the recent events which has happened in the country and in last few years. Only those who pass the test should be allowed to vote . Illiterate people should not be allowed as their vote can be bought for as low as the cost of one time meal .Socrates was also critical of the kind of democracy we follow in india . Only knowledgeable and people having a certain level of understanding of the facts should be allowed to vote

[@tstanmoysamanta]

that's the reason we have been colonized for centuries for this defeatist mindset....do you think their countries are perfect? and if we state the facts about that they are gonna take it as easily like you

[@NOU-iw3gb]

@@tstanmoysamanta Dumbfuck their countries are closer to perfection than ours.

[@anwitmondal6417]

Chinese autocracy continues to outperform Indian democracy in almost every field.

[@michaelzm76]

Indians consider themselves to be one of the smartest races on earth. Indians must ask themselves why？

[@kushjindal2939]

Economic policy has nothing to do with political form of government. Indian Army general became our leader What will change?

[@computhenics]

@keanphenglim5179 110 M toilets were built in 5 years update your knowledge.

[@Rav01508]

"Farmers' income would double by 2022, this is a promise I would assure our Indian farmers.." - Modi, 2019 "China has bullet trains, so are we Indians too, very soon. Our 508 km Sabarmati-Mumbai bullet train, would be a reality before August 15, 2022.." -Modi, 2018 "Make in India would end China's era as the factory 🏭 of the world 🌎.." -Modi, 2015 "I will create at least 20 million jobs a year until there are not enough workers if elected as the PM of India.." - Modi, 2014 "When we Indians celebrate our 75th year of independence in 2022, I shall present 🎁 to you all, India's very first bullet train.." - Modi, 2017 "India will send its first astronauts to space before independence day 2022, this is not a promise but a guarantee.." - Modi, 2018 "Give me 5 years as the PM of India and people won't even remember there was once something called pollution in India.." - Modi, 2014 "If I'm the PM of India, Pakistan and China would be so scared of India's power, they would think twice before attempting any funny moves on India.." - Modi, 2014 "Give me 6 years and corruption would be a thing of the past in India.." - Modi, 2014 "We will build 100 smart cities within 5 years in India to the point where Americans, Japanese, Europeans and even Chinese would want to come and study our smart city concept.." - Modi, 2015 "Atmanirbhar Bharat Self-Reliant India will end our imports from China, instead, China will even have to import stuffs from us after that.." - Modi, 2018 "Give me 6 years as the PM of India and everyone in the world would want to come to India to study our achievements.." - Modi, 2014

[@fanaticcoder3320]

Apart from population nothing is comparable between China & India.

[@mr.zackry6251]

Please someone save my country from this democracy. These politicians have ruined this country. I am from UP. And mayavati was my chief minister.

[@maanyashukla326]

And now you have a murderer. We're so fucked bhai :(

[@dark-lord_2200]

@@maanyashukla326 Yas bro I also hate this democracy Kabh hamara Desh Super power banega

[@innocent007here]

Conditions before 1950 and after 1950 grater than time by time is power of indian democracy......I know it's take time to develop like "process" ,which were also taken by usa/uk. But compare day to day it's better than the past...Crime/corruption were not increased after 2004..it's described openly in those year than before 2004 election. Before independence 1% people occupied 99% land....and now i accept not much better but 30% people occupying 90% land .....Thad less than china as compared...But way of democracy not Totalitarianism...Way of human value not like China's TOTALITARIANISM brutal killing .....

[@NOU-iw3gb]

@@innocent007here Lol you're dumb af. India is an absolute shithole compared to China.

[@Anoopsnair47]

Mr. Zackry pity you

[@janijaimin]

As an Indian, its not easy to digest. But Patrick said it right. He made a pretty good observation and research about Indian political parties. I know every Indian watching this may not be happy about the present state of India and would like to do something for their country IF THEY ARE GIVEN CHANCE. But at present I don't see any.

[@oumgupta1640]

Now It's ugly

[@TheContrariann]

And what do you think of it today ?

[@faraz9641]

And today we struggle to be safe in our homes..

[@mikolowiskamikolowiska4993]

Yet don't wait for a chance. You get stuck in and grab it

[@shreedhartend3878]

India needs military rule at the earliest. All these political parties are absolutely useless. Democracy is beneficial only for politicians.

[@godetts]

patrick's analysis is perfect and spot on. i respect this person for the study he has done. and i pray My country learns from this.

[@Suresh-mm8mr]

gokul surendran it is on right path now, bro

[@s.d.966]

Suresh BS it is still not on the right path.

[@DC-wp6oj]

Suresh is it still on the right path today? I dont think so :)

[@udith]

@@Suresh-mm8mr Reporters getting killed for criticising government... ...a very right path

[@sanjayvishnoi453]

@Arun Sar both parties are corrupt, and what about the small parties? seems like india is not a multi party system but other parties hardly get any attention :(

[@benw7559]

10 years later , what has changed?

[@kushwanthsai49]

There is a more functional state and rule of law is better

[@jeddakjohn5345]

Why do India's neighbors look towards India? Is it because of their superb governance? Or because of their economic development? Capitalism does not require democracy - Thailand and Singapore can attest to that.

[@ishwardevi134]

India is huge like continent, it's stupid to compare small Singapore with india

[@AlmightyAaron0423]

Anuj Yadav India is huge my ass lol

[@ishwardevi134]

@La Vie En Rose population is almost same. China is ageing population India will overtake China in population very soon

[@desiputtar89]

@John Buffalo I am 97 Anglos never ruled India.. There is no such thing as British rule. Before the US bombed the Japanese, the INA was already flexing its muscles and the independence was grabbed in 1943 with military action, not by peaceful means. 21 October 1943 was a declaration of India's independence and it took British a few more years to surrender their control and leave. We believe wrongly that the British gave us freedom. The British archive proves that they were very scared of uprising of Indian army people who were returning from WW2 and were armed, tough, and battle-hardened and Netaji was mobilizing them and was successful in mobilizing them. So the British decided to leave quickly with honour as soon as they could. And Subhash Chandra Bose never referred to Britishers as "rulers". He simply called them foreign occupiers. Subhash Chandra Bose was the man behind India's freedom from the British occupation, not Gandhi. India took back its freedom by violent means, not peaceful means as taught in history books.

[@desiputtar89]

@Mr. Anonymous There's no such thing as British rule. You've misunderstood the history which was not written properly. Subhash Chandra Bose was the actual person responsible for India's freedom from British occupation, not rule because there was none to begin with. Look into the archives. Nowhere it is mentioned that the British ruled. They were simply foreign strangers like Subhash Chandra ji said and that these foreign strangers must be expelled from Indian soil. Subhash ji was determined in his enndeavour and it paid off.

[@anirprasadd]

What patrick has said is based on ground reality, and not idealistic interpretations

[@BabanTudu]

From India and this white gentleman is bringing out facts

[@zalamayur3822]

He is 100% right

[@harveyking5038]

This should be a shame to all Indians but it isn't.

[@rahulrock1696]

The west should be ashamed of their propaganda!! First tell To ur Boris not to visit India.

[@michaelzm76]

@@rahulrock1696 My friend, burying your head in the sand like an ostrich won't solve any problems.🤣

[@sreenivas6071]

Stfu cumskin

[@RishikRanjan]

Criminalisation, corruption and nepotism. This guy has got it all right! Wholly agree with him.

[@hamidhamidi3134]

Now that covid is ravaging through India, his analysis makes even more sense. It's heartbreaking.

[@sagarsahu5960]

so isn't ravaging through you stupid dung .it's china who fucked up funded by america

[@rogerfaint499]

@@sagarsahu5960 The worst thing to do is blaming others when you can't even manage your own problems.

[@MrAntonychong]

@Sagar Sahu, its thru ppl like you that I finally understand why India as a nation doesnt lift off like everyone expected her to be. And I m beginning to fear for my beloved nation of Malaysia as I saw so many similarities in our political environment with India. The lack of accountability and false worship of ministers. Not surprising because this land was once a Hindu kingdom and the natives here although now largely Muslims, still retain to a degree some of the influence left behind by ancient Indian traders. You can see this influence in the weddings of the Malays for example. So, it's not surprising when they are also ardent fans of bollywood. And in the political arena, our ministers liked to be praised and be seated on opulent large chairs while the citizens grassroots sat on plastic chairs. Compare this to other far east nations on the conduct of their ministers and you really why democracy is more of a mockery in some countries who really abused it

[@rogerfaint499]

@@MrAntonychong Indians do not like to face reality and instead indulge in the fantasies of their dream world believing that those fantasies would come true . . . and that instead make India a slum that it is today and in the future.

[@adithyadanaj9768]

@@rogerfaint499 ingnore that pleb. The Indian govt fuqed up period.

[@bhupinderbs]

Very good reseach by Patrick French. This is how policitians in India now a days!

[@andtam008]

Starvation is the best aspiration in Indian democracy.

[@YarlagaddaUmeshRam]

most of the analysis is correct. you forgot about the lack of educatioin, awareness in low income indian voters who take money and alcohol during elections to caste their vote. There are also caste politics which is very toxic. And dangerous communal politics where muslims vote to mukhtar ansari just becoz he is muslim.

[@MegaBaddog]

hjindoos also vote communal candidates like the current swine in chief modi

[@udith]

@@MegaBaddog They should ban all the religious organizations and government (executive and legislative) should not name any religion. It should be the duty of only judiciary to take care of religious disputes

[@chandrarama1970]

@Thanos The FARMER yes sir. you are right.

[@sanjayvishnoi453]

@@udith yes, this will cause religious conflict which is already happening. and btw they should also abolish reservation system and then we'll see less crime rates in UP (i guess lol)

[@adithyadanaj9768]

@@sanjayvishnoi453 reservation system should stay but we should scrap all religion based parties.

[@god-son-love]

Democracy is good...only when 'qualified citizens' have right to vote. The greatest person with integrity, wisdom, and courage will be killed by ignorant mob like what happened to Socrates. Citizens must have basic ability of critical thinking, basic understanding of public issues, and most importantly, high moral integrity. Citizens shall not bribe, or take bribe in any form. Under these conditions, democracy might work for the people. Unfortunately cunning Englishmen who invented and exporting their flawed ideology don't want second world countries to know that. Look at Singapore, look at China, they both practice a certain degree of authoritarianism, but their people thanked the government.

[@Jp11130]

Most of voters are illiterate.sad here

[@vishaldora8803]

Great analysis 👏👏👏

[@michaeljosephjackson2364]

I am not in favor of democracy I support authoritarian government with liberal policies

[@yangzhenjen3985]

That is the main reason why India economy is only 1\5 of China.

[@nmew6926]

10 years ago it was 1/4 In 10 years it will be 1/6

[@kushagrapal8689]

True. In china even though it is an autocracy where people have little say it is run by intelligent people such as xi jinping who is an engineer. Whereas our country india is run by idiots in the name of democracy. India should be run by educated people such as from IIt or IIM who should be elected by competitive exams rather than being elected by people who cannot even write their own names.

[@adithyadanaj9768]

@Gurpreet Singh still not enough to catch up to China. And their growth rate is slow cuz they are already the 2nd largest by nominal and largest by ppp so ofc it would grow slow. In fact that kind of growth at this point is amazing.

[@user-dg8gc2zq4k]

@Gurpreet Singh 12% of 100 is 12, 7% of 500 is 35~~~~ go figure :)

[@user-dg8gc2zq4k]

@Gurpreet Singh wow

[@seanras4046]

Democracy is the will of the people. People in India don't have high expectations of their leaders. They are okay with corruption, they don't want it to change. They are okay with mediocracy, because they've been told repeatedly that they're lesser. Hence all the flaws. We need to start having higher expectations and personally living up to it.

[@billyjean7169]

Stop blaming others

[@Citabria007]

Mani Aiyar lives in an illegal encroachment called "Sainik Farms". it was meant for veterans ..foot solders to farm..but he has built a palacial house there.. Ha HA

[@reardelt]

"The exuberance of democracy leads to undisciplined and disorderly conditions which are inimical to development" - Lee Kuan Yew.

[@lokeshwormaibam2994]

We are ruined by ourselves.

[@hindurashtra63]

It takes time for Democracy to evolve in a Nation like India. India is a land of diverse people with a complicated History. It took U.S almost 150 years to adjust to Democracy and get rid of it's racism and backwardness. So, How can you expect a Nation whose population is 4 times that of U.S to adjust to Democracy so soon ?

[@apartment353]

Just another Atheist LOL the US is FAR from getting rid of racism

[@harshlakhani781]

Yes

[@tstcikhthys]

It didn't take the US 150 years to "adjust to democracy"; it was democratic from day 1. It only expanded the _demos_ (people) that could vote over the years. India, on the other hand, is far, far away from this though.

[@AnyaChuri]

Thank you so much! This is because the intellectuals have voluntarily given up on the Indian politics! (I do not entertain lalochezia)

[@adilkhanindore]

Well they have also been threatened , killed and labelled as anti national.

[@klppdc]

@@adilkhanindore what about Islamic countries? Are they free?

[@yourfriendlyneighbourhoodi5052]

@@klppdc shots fired

[@adithyadanaj9768]

@@klppdc see we can't be cured cuz if idiots like you. Now wonder

[@mikolowiskamikolowiska4993]

@@adilkhanindore what sort of intellectuals can't outsmart thugs?

[@nirvanabhilash117]

I respect his opinion. As an indian i will try my best to improve my country. Thank you.

[@Alive6371]

Good luck

[@devasharma5478]

Hehe

[@Satyamev_Jayate100]

He is talking about Congress History of Corruption and Nepotism

[@tstcikhthys]

@@Satyamev_Jayate100 Lmao as if it's all sunshine and rainbows with the current government. It only got much worse after 2014. Gosh, how are people so delusional?

[@vishwasgiri6890]

How easily we abuse Nehru because of their successors deeds

[@nashtrashcool]

Of course you blame him because he had the chance to change the system but he decided to choose brit system and now our same system is mocked bh britons

[@theultimateshield5133]

@@nashtrashcool What other system are you talking about communism or fascism if not democracy.

[@sujitphatak]

this is super. this needs to be shared and conveyed largely.

[@noodle502]

Want Britain to come back to India and lead the way. These horrific traitors ruining many young lives and good talents.

[@Real_Gigachaddi]

No need of britain.. we need a cultural revolution and Russian model federation with autonomous areas

[@keithhunt5328]

​@@Real_Gigachaddino we need dictatorship

[@theultimateshield5133]

Democracy is not a problem how it is performed and utilized is a problem

[@bharatrao4044]

Rule of law... In India if someone does wrong and you try to remind them of law, he will just smile and say do whatever you want... There's absolutely no fear of law as they know they will get away with it....

[@protectinghistory]

2. Bose was sidelined long ago by these manipulators. I think it's time Indians broke a few popular myths such as "Gandhi led India to freedom". He did not. The British left India not because they became followers of Gandhi's Non-violent philosophy overnight. They dropped the bag and ran away from India because they could no longer count on the loyalty of the Indian Army. Bose had effectively undermined their loyalty during the WW2 and converted them from mercenaries into firebrand patriots.

[@musbahalfarah442]

From Pakistan, only criminal mafia in politics refers to India as 'Beacon of light' because it suits their profile and agenda.

[@baijnathmahto4761]

His years of analysis is just the truth we all already have accepted and living with every day.

[@wumao6797]

Its 11 years ago what he said has India improved?

[@TheVarsh86]

William might say that countries like Nepal look to India as a beacon of light and it's a nice thought. But he has to rememeber they do so because despite the current corruption in India, it's still a better government than those mentioned in comparison. Why not really give these countries something to aspire to and be the best or close enough?

[@akhilaramesh6138]

you're right sir.

[@nishapatel3973]

As an Indian, I must say, World knows better than me about the damaged democrazy in my country ! May Mahatma Gandhi ji run my country.

[@nishapatel3973]

@MY LIFE'S A MEME, not all name ending with Patel are Gujaratis. I would love if Bose is our leader till date.

[@keithhunt5328]

Gandhi was a swine

[@AnyaChuri]

At 9:05 This is what typically the congress party and subsequently the other parties (inclusing the BJP and the coalitions) have done: whenever a question is asked, start a preposterous specious comparison with PAkistan or other neighbours! Oh so typical! Good Lord Armani!

[@shivammishra3047]

This person is stating fact which are brutally true...

[@Namburiadityasairam2605]

To all people, even Indians, saying that India should ditch democracy, it's the only thing that keeps us together. No democracy = no United India. Ik that at the least south India will secede.

[@komekko373]

Aditya Namburi I know right? We should give right to Vote to most uneducated people who will vote for their own religion not to chose an un-curroupt leader who can bring change to India

[@theragingcyclone]

it will be good if we all make our own separate countries and if they develop it is risk well taken instead of living in this mess. and its not that difficult to keep the country together if there is a determined dictator.

[@vahsirartapaham4578]

india needs a civil war to throw out the corrupt democratic system . Those whose supporters win will form the new one party system in India

[@pavang3959]

Aditya Namburi who the fuck needs unity when our people are not able to come out of poverty...fuck ur demo

[@mr.zackry6251]

Actually, this democracy is the reason for hatred, discrimination and divide among Indians. Analyse the working structure of this democracy. Every party tries to target specific community and practice communal agendas. It is because of this democracy that the sense of regional and religious identity has surpassed the sense of national identity. Such a big and diverse nation can only survive under communism.

[@agnosticatheist4093]

Democracy Comes From Enlightenment In India's Case Our Founding Fathers Who Written The Constitution Were Enlighten But Not The People For Who They Are Writing For.

[@kushwanthsai49]

India is too big to be a democracy

[@lion41blue26]

i"ve 100% agree with this guy

[@agoodfriedegg7102]

This was posted 9 years ago. I ask has the situation change since in India? Has it been improve because of people's voice and grievance?

[@GorditoCrunch343]

No. Just look at the recent riots in the streets between Hindus and Muslims for the political instability in India. If it wasn't for COVID-19, the situation would have escalated further.

[@adithyadanaj9768]

Nope. It won't change anytime soon imo. It would take a cultural revolution like in China for India to rise. The people here are far too blind and emotionally driven to see the truth. They need to get hit hard to see reality.

[@kdbasu]

@@adithyadanaj9768 what do you mean by cultural revolution? Also what do you mean of hard reality?

[@protectinghistory]

3. The very name "Bose" scared the shit out of the British and they went to the extent of hiring assassins to get rid of him, the documents of which have been declassified now. Bose was young charismatic and selfless. Naturally, the manipulators saw to it that he was permanently taken away from his people. Having said that, I'd still maintain Gandhi was a selfless visionary leader with maximum mass appeal, and deserves 1/3rd credit for Independence.

[@DipakBose-bq1vv]

It was said by Clement Attlee that role of Gandhi was minimal. Because of the INA, British could not trust Indian soldiers anymore.

[@keithhunt5328]

Gandhi did nothing

[@shrikantiahtdr8022]

Agreed mate. If i shared this on social media..i would immediately be called an anti national.But Jagan Mohand Reddy worked from the grass root level through his record breaking yatra.

[@SanjeevSabhlok]

This is a raw reality of India that India's only liberal party, Swarna Bharat Party, is fighting to fix. India's problems can be SQUARELY pinned on Nehru's imposition of socialism. See my book on the topic. No, it didn't go bad in the last 20 years. The rot started with Nehru.

[@leviackerman-nq9vk]

Your party don’t even exist

[@DC-wp6oj]

So you support Modi?

[@L1PiD]

Watched the video and I agree, there are huge flaws with Indian democracy and much should change. Hoping that newer, well educated, and energised people have a better take at it then what’s happened in the past 30 years.

[@devasharma5478]

You are talkimg about those people who want to make india a hindu rashtra 🤣

[@suvomoymukherjee2998]

Absolutely... unacceptable, but so true!

[@cheemakurthicharan383]

if it is true y its not acceptable

[@nsaurabh25]

His analysis only touches the upper level. Caste plays the most important role in all this. It must be discussed too.

[@sureshpolali4616]

There is no sincere effort to eradicate Caste System In India. Instead, all-around efforts are made to retain it or exploit it politically - JUST see exit poll results analysis How caste voted area-wise / caste-wise analysis, etc. Most of the time I came to know the existence of some obscure caste only through these so-called analysis - Hence somewhere politics does not want the caste system to go - In KARNATAKA the present CM ( JUNE 2021 ) exploiting caste cult to blackmail central leadership. I strongly feel the bottom of the pyramid is not a hindrance to the caste system - It is a political system and subsequent exploitation of that cate equation. PRESIDENTIAL FORM OF DEMOCRACY will solve this caste equation as INDIVIDUALS are elected not Party

[@Shootingbloodfromyourc0ck]

India: considers themselves the most powerful military in asia Meanwhile they can’t even capture and regain control of a state controlled by terrorists and separatists 😂

[@protectinghistory]

4. Remaining 1/3rd should go to Bose and another 1/3rd to revolutionaries like Bhagat Singh, Bagha Jatin, Masterda, to name just a few. If we get this history right, we don't see too many visionary, selfless, charismatic people in the leadership position of Free India. Ambedkar was one but he was also sidelined, politically and by caste. As far as "given a chance" is concerned, Aurobindo, Gandhi, Bose, Bhagat Singh and the millions that followed them and died weren't looking for "chance".

[@skywalker8940]

Just came to know that the speaker Patrick French had passed away a year ago

[@mrunaljadav3283]

20% of the word population is living in India, So because of one wrong idea (of democracy) 19% population of word is suffering 1% are elite

[@TheGREATdEEPs]

100% true. I can confirm as an Indian.

[@libertas-goddessofliberty5664]

It is very sad how right he is.

[@AbhishekTiwary]

At least nowadays we don't hear about large scale corruption like 2G scam, coal scam. But medium and small scale corruption is still there. All problems in India is related to too much democracy and over population.

[@ltu4646]

Rafale, GST scam, electoral bond scam, cow lynching every now and then lol

[@breadandchampagne7176]

The big one--- PM Cares Scam loool.

[@nashtrashcool]

@@ltu4646 lynching ain't a problem. That's a hope, and it reflects distrust on anti hindu laws

[@viralhub8745]

This is harsh but true..!🙏👍

[@amoalkerkar2236]

Every single word is true Love from India Maharashtra region.

[@sini0071]

Why can't yall accept that there's different ways to run a country?

[@ajeetalbert91]

Democracy,in it's truest sense, means civic participation. As described the real inventors,the Athenians, civilians attended the parliamentary sessions besides periodic voting. Although this is practically not feasible at this stage,we, the citizens of India,have entirely discarded from our civic responsibility to follow,support,criticize or oppose the government. Instead we have begun to choose and favor government which aligns more with our identity in terms of language,religion etc etc. We have knowledge that covers a vast ground on many subjects. But unfortunately, that knowledge is merely acquired by casual browsing which makes it extremely shallow. Politics and economics are two spheres which control a nation's progress and these must be followed in detail to fill up that void we created in our responsibility as citizens. Personally, I believe any form of govt can be good or bad. Monarchy has tyranny at it's evil end. Democracy can end up in mobocracy. It is in the hands of the citizens to direct the govt and restrain it from abusing it's power.

[@ajeetalbert91]

+Darkhorse "Decision concerning people will be taken directly by people and politics has nothing to do with it". As beautiful as it sounds, it is impractical to such an extent that it may happen only in some Utopian land. But, I totally agree that it is the democracy defined in it's truest form. The simple fact is that it's not present in India right now. I really wish to witness your dream of democracy in India but I believe it won't come to India in the next decades. The only logical problem which I see is the massive population. Even if we manage to neutralize difference of financial status,language,religion or caste, the mere size of our population will not allow the rule done by people itself.By either versions of us, India isn't really democratic as most Indians claim to be. Secondly, when Athens created a governance and named it to be democracy, then it is democracy in it's original sense. To be precise,we can say that democracy itself is the same cock and bull shit. What we have in India can be a modified version of the real democracy which appears to be more feasible with elected representatives but the original meaning where everyone with civic and legal rights must participate is totally lost. Technically, when the people cannot or do not participate, we shouldn't use the term democracy. Maybe we can formulate a new term and God only knows whether it's good or bad. And finally, the old system of Samitis where we categorized and efficiently worked based on the nature of work we do led to the development of caste system. It's kinda ironic to say that British came in and divided a hundred year old system into different castes. We did it to ourselves. To be correct, samiti system was indeed efficient in a small village or a closed system. We did that mistake by trying to apply it for large empires. At this point, instead of creating a new system, we applied samiti system to the mass group which caste system to manage the mass. Moreoever, these kinda old system cannot be applied to present line of work where we have everything from nanotechnology to robotics to Mars Orbiter Mission. With this extremely diverse field of works, it's pointless to spend money or energy to bring back the old samiti system.

[@yashguptakinjalk1732]

Your kind of people are so so soooooo few.

[@adithyadanaj9768]

@@ajeetalbert91 we need more people like you. And about the population part UP is planning to bring a 2child policy. What is your opinion on that. I believe it would be beneficial. But I don't know how they're going to implement it in a backward state like UP.

[@mikolowiskamikolowiska4993]

@@adithyadanaj9768 remember the problem of 1 child policy in china. Never tamper with nature

[@GIGADEV690]

​@@mikolowiskamikolowiska4993😂😂They are 10 times richer than India.

[@ProchetoDasGupta]

It's difficult for us to accept it but it's true . Truth is always harsh .

[@aehalbroni195]

Your observations is fantastic. It is also happening in my country. All the governing politicians retired rich beyond their means.

[@Lakshya12]

What's your country

[@aehalbroni195]

@@Lakshya12 The top politicians are on trial. But sadly the charges may be withdrawn.

[@harshan.k4765]

Thank you sir, for these facts. I really appreciate the research that you have done. History repeats again and again, that's how nature work change will be there soon or later but, certain of it. I wish many of our people see this and know our own fate where we have pencil in one hand and an eraser on the other(1950's democratic India) time to write the right things and erase the false.

[@man4ela8]

patrick french you forget to mention the home of corruption family in inida ( non other than karunanathi family) 1760000000000 rupees

[@rahult5753]

Socrates hated democracy...

[@sureshpolali4616]

140 Crore population is too much. Democracy with such a huge population is a class with 400 students with one teacher teaching Mathematics. This level of Population is leading to large-scale pollution, figuratively speaking. Same level of 7% GDP growth with 80 crores population would have been grat

[@trollwarlord2967]

well Modi raj effectively means end of democracy so be happy.

[@Sandeepbhanja]

As an Indian, I can confirm this!

[@man4ela8]

mani shankar aiyar --what you guys think about him??

[@shashankprasad92]

Well what do you knw!I watch this video today and India just passed a law and I'm sure everyone will be happy to know.Hereafter any politician with a criminal case or chargesheet booked cannot under any circumstance particicpate in elections or hold power.Thumbs up so everyone know the progress!

[@tejaswisharma]

Interestingly I agreed to both the parties.

[@Trooperalbum]

Lol@ all the Pakistanis below thinking Patrick is speaking out against India. You obviously haven't seen his other videos nor read his award winning book "India : A portrait". What he's doing here is positive criticism. We'll only get better through this process. And I lol at the guy several posts below describing corruption as infectious. Please do stay in that state of denial. We'll just grow better by correcting our mistakes. :)

[@santoshr2984]

Wow .. very well said .. amazing

[@sanchitmehta6513]

It was 8 years ago but it has changed after 2014

[@billtensus]

Change in leadership is the key. Or presence, earlier were Pirates.

[@sanchitmehta6513]

@@billtensus they don't use sea route but can be called as the the looters after the british raj

[@RikthDcruze]

we need the full thing.... the speeches of all the people!

[@manishbisht693]

His analysis are 100% correct.

[@jigarp999]

Wow...all that Patrick said was true a decade ago....and it is true now...in fact has gotten worse.

[@muralikrishnanayyappan6513]

Kudos !! At least some one had the Gall to come out with it !

[@tinkubhowmik4752]

Bitter truth !

[@sam-pd6zi]

He is right on many points

[@pravinpatil7841]

Indian democracy is great but the Congress never ran on actual democracy of India, the currupted Congress thrown India 20 year back, but now come in India and see how narendra modi and his party bjp correcting india's democracy and India will be superpower in coming years Jay hind I love India will love forever 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳

[@ex0duzz]

pravin patil superpower in coming years? What, like 100 years? That's if India is lucky and they move to authoritarian model like China, and that's if they have competent gig and open mindless. But it too will fail unless they addressnrhenuneerjyunrniiirukeriin

[@sigma8112]

Democracy itself a eyewash.

[@ritwikchattopadhyay3543]

If you compare India with middle-east or south-asian countries, we have a good democracy. But if you compare India with Western countries, our democracy is an oxymoron

[@nine9605]

Because democracies in Middle-East are illiberal.

[@zacobotful]

India, a country with several religions, caste, colour, most of the neighbour country are against us, but still pulling together. staying strong. pakistan a muslim nation, full of muslims, aided by china, i dont even understand why they even want to compare with us, they should be a powerful country by now, but alas >_< .

[@ravindertalwar553]

NO TEARS NO FEARS ONLY CHEERS AND CHEERS FOR ALL NEARS AND DEARS

[@dikshaagarwal7833]

I believe that democracy is not the actual problem of India even dictatorship could have done no good to it the flaw is not in our law but is in enforcement of law every time during enforcement of the law people try to earn money from it and if they can not earn then they are not interested in it. Every politician praises his good deeds but never accepts the nuisance created by them. Being part of the Indian youth I believe it's our responsibility to reform our government in such a manner so that we can actually get out of this black hole of crime and help in making India a developed country than developing.

[@dikshaagarwal7833]

@Yamini Bhamare no doubt. Individual morality is must.. And once said by Mahatma Gandhi "be the change you want to see in the world".. So I absolutely agree with your point.

[@jithinfahumudeen6878]

Dictorship worked in uae, china,...saudi Arabia...

[@kixmet]

The UK has legally privileged nepotism - hereditary peers.

[@suyashbhardwaj3419]

Smrik on Suhel's face after that "congress" remark 8:10

[@pradhyudh]

100% word to word literally correct

[@varunpathak2678]

I agree with this man.

[@barnalichowdhury.7842]

Wow !!! He is saying the trouth !!!

[@ankurnirman2298]

Your study of Indian democracy is much better, this situation is still there but now with the demand of the time, youth are working to improve it.

[@AmanKB7]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@amarjittalukdar1967]

Spot on.

[@user-alok007]

Yes, you right sir.

[@kkim1177]

I said about this about Indians since day 1 and they called me racist.

[@maxwellsequation4887]

And this was 10 years ago.

[@blackknight4996]

Is it improving, staying put, or regressing?

[@gayatriagarwal4275]

@@blackknight4996 worsening

[@michaelzm76]

As a spectator, the Indian government is really rotten...

[@debojitrabha2502]

There are many things India can learn from this speech. And they will. But I disagree on this particular statement about democracy being Indias achillis heel.

[@vikashgauravvkg]

I have to say, his each & every word is correct, but now situation is better

[@straighter100]

This guy got balls

[@Anoopsnair47]

Our national strategies are no puppet to no one

[@lw8131]

Patrick must congratulate his test case , now he owns a state 😂