Iraq War 20 Years On: “Some People Can’t Bring Themselves To Admit It Was A Mistake,” Peter Hitchens

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Жыл бұрын

The Iraq War began 20 years ago today on March 20 2003. Prime Minister Tony Blair and US President George Bush ordered the invasion.
TalkTV’s Mike Graham is joined by Mail on Sunday columnist Peter Hitchens to reflect on the war, 20 years on.
Peter tells Mike: “There are still some people who can’t bring themselves to admit it was a dreadful mistake …
“The ones who made me cross at the time and the ones who continue to make me cross, are the ones who should’ve protested against it, voted against it in Parliament and didn’t.”
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@rogernewman5903
@rogernewman5903 Жыл бұрын
It’s ironical that an international court can cite Putin for war crimes in Ukraine and ignore Blair and Bush for Iraq invasion. double standards.
@shamteal8614
@shamteal8614 Жыл бұрын
Just proves that the ICC has become no more than a political tool of the West and no longer has any credibility.
@davidcoleman2796
@davidcoleman2796 Жыл бұрын
100%
@eighty88eight
@eighty88eight Жыл бұрын
Decimating and killing millions of Afghans Libyan Iraqi Syrian, men woman children. Thus spreading democracy, freedom in the Middle East . . . and the love for America ! !
@eighty88eight
@eighty88eight Жыл бұрын
Blair & Bush. Two white stereotypical, plantation owners . . untouchable !
@1aatlas
@1aatlas Жыл бұрын
@@eighty88eightWith freedom bombs, the white phosphorous of democracy, the depleted uranium shells of peace.
@olivethrush7450
@olivethrush7450 Жыл бұрын
It was not a mistake. It was a deliberate act.
@GOLDSMITHEXILE
@GOLDSMITHEXILE Жыл бұрын
I agree. And by even suggesting it was "a mistake" there is the implication that the original motives and intentions behind the "shock and awe," and subsequent military occupation, were decent and honourable.....and that, somehow, the project was diverted or otherwise ruined by changing circumstances, the fortunes of war, or whatever.....leading to the ongoing humanitarian disaster which DID occur. When in fact the entire thing was a cynical, calculated imperialistic war adventure from the start. From the same crowd that blew up WTC and more recently detroyed nord stream gas pipeline
@hittitecharioteer
@hittitecharioteer Жыл бұрын
Blair believed it'd be a short war in a distant country soon forgotten about - but would win a deep friendship with his USA globalist pals. Obama arrived and said you'd be at the back of a queue for a trade deal; and mass migration that even affects here (🇮🇪) and Ireland had nothing to do with it! You need to bring back hanging for what your evil leaders did to Europe.
@olivethrush7450
@olivethrush7450 Жыл бұрын
@@GOLDSMITHEXILE Absolutely. The Ba$tard had to be stopped. One does not need to find a civilised reason to thump a Ba$tard. If you have the means to do it just thump him and move on.
@happinesstan
@happinesstan Жыл бұрын
A deliberate act executed to perfection. Let's not forget there were actually two wars. The fist, illegal war was executed swiftly and efficiently because they needed to install a government who could request our assistance after we left.
@andrewoliver8930
@andrewoliver8930 Жыл бұрын
Promoted by the owner of this station.
@jean-marcevans1439
@jean-marcevans1439 Жыл бұрын
I remember clearly the horror I felt when Blair made that announcement. Complete and utter madness. How he can show his face in public is beyond belief. As Hitchens says, Blair should enter a monastery and spend the rest of his days begging for forgiveness.
@NEEJER
@NEEJER Жыл бұрын
Blair is demonic
@robertheap2911
@robertheap2911 Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget Blair converted to Catholicism to gain repentance 😢
@thomasreed49
@thomasreed49 Жыл бұрын
Tony Blairwords I have seen The evidence of weapons of mass destruction To protect others I am unable to show the evidence. That was a bear face lie they didn’t exist. And to think he’s still breathing.
@wallacewhybrow2705
@wallacewhybrow2705 Жыл бұрын
@jean-marcevans1439 No need for a monastery. Simply lock him up, plenty of time for contemplation.
@shrunkensimon
@shrunkensimon Жыл бұрын
​@@robertheap2911 He's a sycophant. His conversion is just to get close to the real hidden hand of power
@nautilus1872
@nautilus1872 Жыл бұрын
George Galloway said "Children died before they knew they were Iraqis, but for no other reason, other than they were Iraqis."
@takkiejakkie5458
@takkiejakkie5458 Жыл бұрын
Did/would he say the same about Ukrainians? George Galloway is a Russian propaganda machine.
@notcomply
@notcomply Жыл бұрын
And the hypocrisy of the squeaky clean west calling Putin a war criminal is nauseating
@waynus2021
@waynus2021 Жыл бұрын
Blair and Bush set an example to the rest of the world that an international mandate for war was simply not needed , they sowed the seeds for the Ukrainian invasion
@phillipecook3227
@phillipecook3227 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely.
@stumac869
@stumac869 Жыл бұрын
What's sickening is that we get dragged into the mess our politicians create by going to war most don't want. It's time governments needed a majority people's vote before doing anything, it's not their country, it belongs to us all.
@lespaul2000
@lespaul2000 Жыл бұрын
They'll just brainwash the public with their psyops and Propaganda.
@aydan0161
@aydan0161 Жыл бұрын
I would love to agree with this but unfortunately the vast majority of the general public are mindless droids that will believe whatever they’re told to believe. I think the older you get the more you realise that so-called ‘democracy’ only works when you have citizens with critical thinking skills.
@tauntontaunton6128
@tauntontaunton6128 Жыл бұрын
I TOTALLY AGREE
@satishkumarkn1164
@satishkumarkn1164 Жыл бұрын
It was not a mistake. It was done deliberately. 20 years ago England was throwing bombs to kill millions in Iraq. Today it is funding food banks for its own people and looks upto Rwanda for solving its criminal gang problems. In the mean time Pakistani gangs teach "culture" to its girls in the name of "grooming" and the police are just watching. Ha ha ha..... Congratulations to England on this wonderful achievement. Even God is too powerless to save England.
@paullynch1938
@paullynch1938 Жыл бұрын
Spot on ,they want us to go to kill people who have done fuck all to us ,you don’t see them on the front line, this people need arresting, WHY isn’t it happening, it’s beyond belief
@justgivemethetruth
@justgivemethetruth Жыл бұрын
And we're still taking it out on Julian Assange who turned the spotlight on these abuses.
@cybercheese3
@cybercheese3 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, arrest the guy exposing war crimes, and let the perpetrators go free...
@waynus2021
@waynus2021 Жыл бұрын
the only thing that gives me hope these days is reading comments from guys like you who also understand how this shitshow works , i sometimes feel surrounded by morons who just follow the narrative and believe whatever the mainstream (who are controlled) spew out at the time. I feel like Rik fkkng Grimes in a sea of mindless zombies
@1962pjh
@1962pjh Жыл бұрын
As a Canadian, I'm proud of our PM at the time Jean Chretien, for making the right decision, and not joining the US and UK in the war in Iraq.
@aydan0161
@aydan0161 Жыл бұрын
I’ve never even considered that fact. That is impressive. When you consider that Australia (one of the worlds current dictatorships) also contributed to the invasion. Well played Jean.
@matimus100
@matimus100 Жыл бұрын
Prince Andrew loves this silly comment
@aydan0161
@aydan0161 Жыл бұрын
@@matimus100 says the self proclaimed ‘Viking’… somehow I don’t think I’ll be listening to your political insight anytime soon
@robbrewer2036
@robbrewer2036 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the little crap of steel in australia.
@beewisebeestronger6224
@beewisebeestronger6224 Жыл бұрын
But there was Canadian troops there wasn't there? Or was that during the occupation , they were already in Afghanistan
@AntAdam1
@AntAdam1 Жыл бұрын
To think that Blair is still trying to push himself into the front and centre of our lives, like a stain that you can't get out.
@elliotgregory3356
@elliotgregory3356 Жыл бұрын
Apparently he is front runner for the WEF top job when Klaus pops his clogs.....
@tommytitmouse
@tommytitmouse Жыл бұрын
and a filthy dirty Stain at that.
@helmethead72
@helmethead72 Жыл бұрын
Who was held accountable by The Hague for our devastating war of aggression against Iraq? And imagine our outrage and fury if the Chinese or Russians had supplied weapons, ammunition and intelligence to the people of Iraq to help defend themselves against our invasion? Our hypocrisy is utterly revolting.
@waynus2021
@waynus2021 Жыл бұрын
and imagine if the Russians and Chinese had signed an agreement (Minsk) that was legally binding that they would not expand their influence in a Westerly direction and then proceeded to attempt putting arms and bases in a Western location on the USA`s border................. the history books suggest that it didn`t go so well last time (Cuba) but that is EXACTLY what has happened here . I cannot be the only Westerner that has sympathy towards the Russians at this point?
@SimonWallwork
@SimonWallwork Жыл бұрын
As a Tory voter (well, ex Tory) myself, I cannot forgive them for supporting the war. Only the Tories could have restrained Blair, but like idiots, they backed him 100%.
@annharding9634
@annharding9634 Жыл бұрын
Sounds familiar.
@clivet3252
@clivet3252 Жыл бұрын
We basically had no opposition while Blair was in power. The strongest opposition came from the backbenches, and even from the frontbenches when it came to Iraq.
@redbison6417
@redbison6417 Жыл бұрын
Tories and Labour agree on all major issues, the choice between parties is illusion.
@andrewoliver8930
@andrewoliver8930 Жыл бұрын
​@@redbison6417 The Tories could have sided with the Labour rebels but decided to back Blair and his need to suck up to the US.
@redbison6417
@redbison6417 Жыл бұрын
@@andrewoliver8930 could have... But where never going to.
@bobbysilver272
@bobbysilver272 Жыл бұрын
From their point of view, it wasn't a mistake. It all went according to their Agenda and so it continues with other steps....
@natashawatson385
@natashawatson385 Жыл бұрын
Exactly but we live in this parallel universe where people pretend these things are done by mistake 😮
@happinesstan
@happinesstan Жыл бұрын
Reinds me of this Baroness who was on Marr once, talking about the British Empire "Of course we made mistakkes" she said. It sickened me because when people make mistakes THEY should be the ones to bear the consequences.
@kiwitrainguy
@kiwitrainguy Жыл бұрын
@@happinesstan Try telling that to the financial sector.
@shamteal8614
@shamteal8614 Жыл бұрын
It wasn't a mistake, they knew exactly what they were doing.
@arleneevans6342
@arleneevans6342 Жыл бұрын
I'm beginning to think that way too
@margaret426
@margaret426 Жыл бұрын
I agree & looks like they want to do it all again.
@kiwitrainguy
@kiwitrainguy Жыл бұрын
@@margaret426 Yes, only this time it may ultimately involve nuclear weapons.
@philipmichael4106
@philipmichael4106 Жыл бұрын
Maybe they are afraid of international arrest warrants .
@fraserbailey6347
@fraserbailey6347 Жыл бұрын
If only they were. The fact is that Blair, Campbell, Bush, Cheney et al will never be arrested. The evil is simply off the scale.
@jeffreyuprichard3754
@jeffreyuprichard3754 Жыл бұрын
Why wasn't Hussain arrested for mass murder after golf war one?.
@hittitecharioteer
@hittitecharioteer Жыл бұрын
@@fraserbailey6347 One can but agree 100%.
@paulgibbons2320
@paulgibbons2320 Жыл бұрын
They should be... But they carry on without a care in the world.
@kiwitrainguy
@kiwitrainguy Жыл бұрын
@@paulgibbons2320 ...because they are part of the clique that RUN the World.
@fraserbailey6347
@fraserbailey6347 Жыл бұрын
As always, Peter speaks more sense, with more articulacy and more power, in 10 minutes than the rest of the media manages in 10 years.
@tommyrotton9468
@tommyrotton9468 Жыл бұрын
he is talking a load of bollocks TBH. Just look at all the surrounding Muslim nations and what happened to the Jews and Christians when Sharia started to rule as the majority. If we follow his advice, you might as well sign up to Islamisation right now
@hittitecharioteer
@hittitecharioteer Жыл бұрын
Peter Hitchens speaks. The World should be listening. His thinking is ordered, born of experience and ultimately the seed of a good education. Truly a voice of sanity in this age of lunacy.
@tommyrotton9468
@tommyrotton9468 Жыл бұрын
@@hittitecharioteer his worldview is severely tainted, which makes his opinions biased and incorrect at times. Be sceptical and test ever opinions worth.
@StraightWhiteMan.
@StraightWhiteMan. Жыл бұрын
@@tommyrotton9468 What are you talking about? Just stay in your lands and leave Muslims and Muslim lands alone.
@gerardk51
@gerardk51 Жыл бұрын
@@tommyrotton9468 Do you think the invasion of Iraq halted Islamisation? It increased it! What colour is the sky on your planet?
@user-sh5jq4pmlg
@user-sh5jq4pmlg Жыл бұрын
It was not a mistake, it was a crime! A very big one!
@SteveXNYC
@SteveXNYC Жыл бұрын
Never a crime. A investment in the American experience.
@sisiphas
@sisiphas Жыл бұрын
I never tire of listening to you two gentlemen (and I mean that In its traditional sense. Thank you both.
@adrenalinmyride5634
@adrenalinmyride5634 Жыл бұрын
We all thought 9/11 was the game changer In hindsight Iraq has done more to the attitude of self in the West
@francescostello1377
@francescostello1377 Жыл бұрын
For the best journalism on The Iraq, Middle East disaster, genocide, watch George Galloway on Moats, Colonel Douglas MacGregor, and many more.
@seanmoran2743
@seanmoran2743 Жыл бұрын
Col Macgregor has been excellent on America’s Foreign Policy in the Tragedy of Ukraine
@pikebishop8516
@pikebishop8516 Жыл бұрын
@@seanmoran2743 he thought Ukraine can't win this war since the beginning.
@abucs
@abucs Жыл бұрын
I remember in Australia at the time everyone was saying there was no reason to go to war and yet everyone was aware the political elite wasn't going to consult us about it anyway. The control of the country by unaccountable political elites is the biggest problem in the west still today.
@andrewoliver8930
@andrewoliver8930 Жыл бұрын
The parties in the UK are run by the US Media owner, Rupert.
@WiseFool888
@WiseFool888 Жыл бұрын
Hear hear!
@Banana_Split_Cream_Buns
@Banana_Split_Cream_Buns Жыл бұрын
I was one of the hundreds of thousands in Sydney who marched against it. I even knew one of the guys who wrote "no war" on the Opera House. Now we're buying nuclear subs to contain China. No democracy here at all.
@user-pu3kq1by3q
@user-pu3kq1by3q Жыл бұрын
Do not always agree with Peter Hitchens but on the Iraq war he is totally correct. We should also never have become involved in Afghanistan or Libya. I served for 24 years and could not believe it when we went into Afghanistan. Look at the mess we have left and the people killed in other peoples countries because of arrogance. We have Putin on war crimes when Blair carries on causing trouble, total hypocrisy and double standards. In 20 years if any us are left alive, we will discussing our involvement with Ukraine.
@hittitecharioteer
@hittitecharioteer Жыл бұрын
Peter Hitchens' thinking is ordered, born of a breadth of experience, and ultimately, the seed of a good education. Truly a voice of sanity in this age of lunacy.
@thomasgow9475
@thomasgow9475 Жыл бұрын
It wasn't just Blair, MP's from BOTH Parties voted to go to war on a lie.
@maxy-sp7cn
@maxy-sp7cn Жыл бұрын
To this day, not one person has gone to jail for the war, and not one person has gone to jail for the 2008 financial crisis, but the taxpayer has picked up the tab for both disasters. The Ukraine war is history repeating itself.
@elliotgregory3356
@elliotgregory3356 Жыл бұрын
Agreed 💯👍 Also the banking system is still acting like it did pre 2008!
@ErnaldtheSaxon
@ErnaldtheSaxon Жыл бұрын
Hello, my name is Montague William 3rd. And what I will tell you may well sound absurd. But the less who believe it the better for me. For you see I'm in Banking and big industry. For many a year we have controlled your lives. While you all just struggle and suffer in strife. We created the things that you don't really need. Your sports cars and Fashions and Plasma TV's. I remember it clearly how all this begun. Family secrets from Father to Son. Inherited knowledge that gives me the edge. While you peasants, people lie sleeping at night in your beds. We control the money that controls your lives. Whilst you worship false idols and wouldn't think twice. Of selling your souls for a place in the sun. These things that won't matter when your time is done. But as long as they're there to control the masses. I just sit back and consider my assets. Safe in the knowledge that I have it all. While you common people are losing your jobs. You see I just hold you in utter contempt. But the smile on my face well it makes me exempt. For I have the weapon of global TV. Which gives us connection and invites empathy. You would really believe that we look out for you. While we Bankers and Brokers are only a few. But if you saw that then you'd take back the power. Hence daily terrors to make you all cower. The Panics the crashes the wars and the illness. That keep you from finding your Spiritual Wholeness. We rig the game and we buy out both sides. To keep you enslaved in your pitiful lives. So go out and work as your body clock fades. And when it's all over a few years from the grave. You'll look back on all this and just then you'll see. That your life was nothing, a mere fantasy. There are very few things that we don't now control. To have Lawyers and Police Force was always a goal. Doing our bidding as you march on the street. But they never realise they're only just sheep. For real power resides in the hands of a few. You voted for parties what more could you do. But what you don't know is they're one and the same. Old Gordon has passed good old David the reigns. And you'll follow the leader who was put there by you. But your blood it runs red while our blood runs blue. But you simply don't see its all part of the game. Another distraction like money and fame. Get ready for wars in the name of the free. Vacinations for illness that will never be. The assault on your children's impressionable minds, and a micro chipped world. You'll put up no fight. Information suppression will keep you in toe Depopulation of peasants was always our goal But eugenics was not what we hoped it would be Oh yes it was us that funded Nazis! But as long as we own all the media too What's really happening does not concern you So just go on watching your plasma TV And the world will be run by the ones you can't see
@garrybro12791
@garrybro12791 Жыл бұрын
To think that many in the UK criticise Russia for what it’s doing in Ukraine, while believing the UK isn’t a country with blood on its hands. Fools.
@hittitecharioteer
@hittitecharioteer Жыл бұрын
Blair believed it'd be a short war in a distant country soon forgotten about - but would win a deep friendship with his USA globalist pals. Obama arrived and said you'd be at the back of a queue for a trade deal; and the resulting mass migration that is devastating Europe (and even affects here 🇮🇪 in the extreme West), and Ireland had nothing to do with it! You need to bring back hanging for what your evil leaders did to Europe.
@jamiecorrigan3241
@jamiecorrigan3241 Жыл бұрын
TONY BLAIR HAS BLOOD ON HIS HANDS.
@rozzgrey801
@rozzgrey801 Жыл бұрын
Try to not be so stupid and bigoted, Garry. We can criticise whoever we want for any reasons we see fit, and that's all you need to know.
@SinisterTantru3
@SinisterTantru3 Жыл бұрын
@@jamiecorrigan3241all of the people behind his decisions are guilty
@jamiecorrigan3241
@jamiecorrigan3241 Жыл бұрын
@@SinisterTantru3 Too True !!!
@robertjirava942
@robertjirava942 Жыл бұрын
I am growing to love Peter more and more with time. I will always love Christopher, because of his love of language. As George Galloway said Christopher wrote like an angel. And I know Christopher loved irony. My fondest hope is that one day the two brothers will embrace in heaven, where Christopher awaits Peter. I love them both.
@tommyrotton9468
@tommyrotton9468 Жыл бұрын
Christopher will probably give Peter a Hitchslap for being such a plonker
@robertjirava942
@robertjirava942 Жыл бұрын
@@tommyrotton9468 what a garbage comment
@tommyrotton9468
@tommyrotton9468 Жыл бұрын
@@robertjirava942 but neither the less a very likely occurrence. Christopher was always the more intelligent of the two.
@seanmoran2743
@seanmoran2743 Жыл бұрын
@@tommyrotton9468 Christopher pushed for intervention in these places you muppet He definitely deserves the slap
@seanmoran2743
@seanmoran2743 Жыл бұрын
Your hero Christopher pushed for these interventions you muppet
@jackiep5009
@jackiep5009 Жыл бұрын
American here. Some of us tried. Sigh. I have learned we can not protest our way out of these things. Money - hit them in the money hard and fast.
@SteveXNYC
@SteveXNYC Жыл бұрын
The money is fuel for evil. Tell your birds.
@abuyusef27
@abuyusef27 Жыл бұрын
PH spot on again.
@adamlee8990
@adamlee8990 Жыл бұрын
Love listening to Peter Hitchens
@stirlingmoss4621
@stirlingmoss4621 Жыл бұрын
Blair's Words of Mass Deception. All those British servicemen's lives thrown away for his ego
@joevolcano6720
@joevolcano6720 Жыл бұрын
Just to be pedantic, I believe it was John LeCarre's 'The Tailor of Panama' (not 'The Russia House') that was inspired by Graham Greene's 'Our Man in Havana'. Both deal with how intellegence is manufactured for the sake of both parties. Great books too!
@knickertwistcopperby6066
@knickertwistcopperby6066 Жыл бұрын
I am bingeing on le Carre at present and have just finished 'A Perfect Spy'. What a work of genius! Greene is one of my favourite authors - has been for years. My conclusion: what a waste of money, time and brain space the world of espionage actually is. It is a racket. The people involved are narcissistic warmongers!
@defaultYTchannel
@defaultYTchannel Жыл бұрын
It was no mistake…
@eugenemurray2940
@eugenemurray2940 Жыл бұрын
The lesson of History is... We don't learn from it 😢
@SteveXNYC
@SteveXNYC Жыл бұрын
They repeat it..😂🤣👍
@robertwalker7924
@robertwalker7924 Жыл бұрын
and Australia didnt want to be a part of it but P.M. John Howard did. Did I miss the mention of him ?
@anthonybolton2717
@anthonybolton2717 Жыл бұрын
It was no fcuking mistake
@Banana_Split_Cream_Buns
@Banana_Split_Cream_Buns Жыл бұрын
Despite his brother "converting" me to Atheism, I love Peter many times more. In fact, I wish there was a hell for Christopher to go to for propagandising for that horrible war.
@richardhorrocks1460
@richardhorrocks1460 Жыл бұрын
I baked a tub of Ben & Jerry's at 200c in a fan assisted oven... that was a mistake. Butchering hundreds of thousands of innocent human beings, including children and babies blown to pieces and burnt alive, is not a mistake, it is criminal and evil. And shame on all of us who placate our own collective guilt by pretending that 'objecting' is enough. Those deaths are on all of us.
@areyouavinalaff
@areyouavinalaff Жыл бұрын
On all of us? You wear the guilt if you want, but I had no hand in the matter.
@adamski320
@adamski320 Жыл бұрын
No. No it’s not. I have no guilt, I didn’t kill anyone.
@bertiescunsbutch9323
@bertiescunsbutch9323 Жыл бұрын
We don't live in a healthy democracy to be able to stop the likes of Blair and Campbell, its all set up we have no real voice.
@unitedkingdomoffiveeyes9765
@unitedkingdomoffiveeyes9765 Жыл бұрын
It was roughly about 300 000 that sadly lost their lives, and that is ALL over Iraq. The British were mostly in Basra and the south, and the death stats are extremely low in comparison. You make it sound like British soldiers were just butchering everyone in sight, not true. Actually, nobody rearly knows how many died, but what we do know is that the sadam regime was much worse.
@areyouavinalaff
@areyouavinalaff Жыл бұрын
@@unitedkingdomoffiveeyes9765 I wouldn't pay too much attention, he sounds like a left wing, blue haired, guilt tripping narcissist who needs a cause to virtue signal over, and likely wasn't even born at the time.
@mpierce672
@mpierce672 11 ай бұрын
I am always fascinated by what Mr Hitchens has to say. Where can I find more information on what was discussed? What books, articles and official minutes should I read to understand more? Mr Hitchens mentioned the FCO response to Sadam’s attack on the Kurds; where can I find that?
@Moskow87
@Moskow87 Жыл бұрын
Mistake is when I send a post card to the wrong address... That was something else.
@johnrambo99999
@johnrambo99999 Жыл бұрын
I have served over 21 years in the military. I look back on the iraq war, and feel disgrace and anguish. Its a shame my brothers in arms died fighting an illegal war. I am the first to criticise the wests "grand standing" in the modern political environment. Listening to those who should know better, criticising Russia for indulging a precedent WE set. I am leaving our armed forces, not with a sense of pride, but with a quiet embarrasment and disgust.
@tu0ootu
@tu0ootu Жыл бұрын
Peter is always right people should listen
@robertbroatch8013
@robertbroatch8013 Жыл бұрын
Tony Blair’s legacy!
@sdrawkcabUK
@sdrawkcabUK Жыл бұрын
Why a shortened clip?
@jamiecorrigan3241
@jamiecorrigan3241 Жыл бұрын
AND TONY BLAIR NOW WORKING HIS 'TRICKS' IN THE HOUSE OF LORDS ~~~ SICK ~~~ BUT NOT IN THE MODERN MEANING OF THE WORD.
@SagaciousFrank
@SagaciousFrank Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I don't read much these days. It takes time and a focus I rarely have. But years ago I read Our Man in Havana recommended on Hitchens Blog, and it's an excellent read. Many years after I watched the movie adaptation starring Alec Guinness which was very good.
@jayaybe1
@jayaybe1 Жыл бұрын
I know exactly what you mean. I got into reading Graham Greene last year via The Quiet American. A terrific author and well worth dipping your toe in again, even if only reading a chapter a day 😉.
@lk1590
@lk1590 Жыл бұрын
Mistake? A calculated and deliberate crime, more like.
@junfenghuang6463
@junfenghuang6463 Жыл бұрын
IHow come American and British war criminals are not punished?
@MrNed78
@MrNed78 Жыл бұрын
As an Iraqi born British Citizen, I can tell you the era of the war and its aftermath were hell for my extended family which has left them deeply traumatised and we lost many family members in the ensuing chaos and collapse of the country. The British public were lied to and the hidden cost of the war is the enormous migration from countries like Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria. don't forget many Iraqi's initially fled to Syria and that was a factor in creating the difficult economic conditions that led Syria to collapse and descend into Civil war. Then the huge tidal wave of migration started. You cannot just destroy a country of 30+ million people and expect there is no blowback and consequences. Yet all I see is that those who called for the war have failed upwards and been rewarded handsomely by the global elite. I guess we have to wait for justice in the next life!
@shamteal8614
@shamteal8614 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure you have the sympathy of the majority of British people who knew they were being lied to but were powerless to do anything about it yet those including Blair and Campbell receive protection from blowback whereas ordinary decent British people pay the price. I'd always believed the British democratic state was so designed a crime like that perpetrated against the people of Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya could never happen, god was I wrong, I didn't count on a snide meglamanic like Blair.
@waynus2021
@waynus2021 Жыл бұрын
i can only apologise on behalf of our leaders my friend , they DO NOT speak for the people of this nation and we hate them as much as you do . that war was disgusting and should never have started in the first place , Blair and Bush should be in the Hague for crimes against humanity well ahead of Mr Putin in the queue
@eugenemurray2940
@eugenemurray2940 Жыл бұрын
'The Blair Creature!'...🤣 A Peter 'Hitch Slap'! I am sure The Late CH would laugh! Some common ground there!
@bigbong620
@bigbong620 Жыл бұрын
The late CH was the Bush administration's useful idiot.
@Channel66269
@Channel66269 Жыл бұрын
I’m glad there’s Americans out there that know that we in Europe do laugh when Americans say about Russia invading another country while all Americans ever do is invade countries
@solomontekle4859
@solomontekle4859 Жыл бұрын
So a deliberate war crime is now labeled as ‘mistake’
@petercricket
@petercricket Жыл бұрын
Min) 0 . 35... And the Spanish Lackey, Jose Maria Aznar,, let's not forget,,
@mychathura
@mychathura Жыл бұрын
It was not a mistake. It was a Crime.
@jessicagoodall1458
@jessicagoodall1458 Жыл бұрын
I wish Peter had his own show on talktv
@petew5289
@petew5289 Жыл бұрын
Should have stayed out of Iraq and Afghanistan
@markwatkins8309
@markwatkins8309 Жыл бұрын
Beyond a mistake.
@andrewoliver8930
@andrewoliver8930 Жыл бұрын
Blair got rich, Bush got richer and so did the main protagonists. Good result wasn't it?
@otablott7779
@otablott7779 Жыл бұрын
Tony Blair gets to live his life as millionaire while thousands of Iraqi children lay in graves because of his actions. Sadly the colour of the skin they were born in dictates the value placed on their short lives. The horrors brought on Iraq thanks to that man are the thing of nightmares
@finty5457
@finty5457 Жыл бұрын
Thousands of Iraqi children?
@otablott7779
@otablott7779 Жыл бұрын
​@@finty5457 how many Iraqi children died during the invasion bombing, the occupation killings and the sectarian violence?
@finty5457
@finty5457 Жыл бұрын
@@otablott7779 feel free to cite your sources. Your statement, your burden of proof. Also, what do you mean occupation killings. Are you suggesting uk or American soldiers went around killing children?
@otablott7779
@otablott7779 Жыл бұрын
@@finty5457 You can find information on the number of brown Iraqis murdered by white American and British invaders in publications such as the Lancet report
@finty5457
@finty5457 Жыл бұрын
@@otablott7779 children in the thousands?
@alphabetaxenonzzzcat
@alphabetaxenonzzzcat Жыл бұрын
He is right that it was a disaster for the West - however, here's where he seems to be missing the bigger picture, what lead to it were things like intervention in the former Yugoslavia, all the interventions that happened under Clinton's administration(Somalia, air strikes in Iraq's no fly zone, etc.) and as he mentioned 9/11(but I suspect that Hitchens believes the official story of that), and even more importantly - it was no mistake - it was deliberate. For the powers that be, it all went according to plan - Blair, Bush and co. weren't arrested for war crimes - and they even managed to win an election afterwards.
@andrewoliver8930
@andrewoliver8930 Жыл бұрын
Backed by this station's foreign owner
@isobellickes8543
@isobellickes8543 Жыл бұрын
And was given an “honour” afterwards.
@alphabetaxenonzzzcat
@alphabetaxenonzzzcat Жыл бұрын
@@isobellickes8543 Oh yes - a Knight of the Garter - no less.
@seanmoran2743
@seanmoran2743 Жыл бұрын
Mike should get Col Macgregor on for a Macgregor half hour
@fireflyrobert
@fireflyrobert Жыл бұрын
Hear Hear!
@chrisedwards2272
@chrisedwards2272 Жыл бұрын
He wouldn't dare
@mickeyh1961
@mickeyh1961 Жыл бұрын
Those responsible with their dark souls will burn eternal in a Hellish world of their own creation for their evil deeds
@t.jconnolly6492
@t.jconnolly6492 2 ай бұрын
Who remembers sacchi and sacchi if that is how you spell it the are advertiseing company used to sell the war to the public at that particular time
@rayscott7548
@rayscott7548 Жыл бұрын
It wasn't bungled,it was and is a game of chess but it's being played by the same thing
@derekmoore8224
@derekmoore8224 Жыл бұрын
There was No mistake
@andrewoliver8930
@andrewoliver8930 Жыл бұрын
The owner of this station's other outlets, such as The Sun, backed Blair. The owner even made him Godfather to his child.
@drewski1441
@drewski1441 Жыл бұрын
The Hypocrisy of it all...😒
@christophershrimpton7627
@christophershrimpton7627 Жыл бұрын
Peter Hitchens quite rightly points to the influence of Dick Cheney in the GW Bush presidency but the true motive for the policies on the Middle East was nothing to do with spreading freedom and democracy. The basis for those policies was laid out in The Project For The New American Century which was all about the need to advance American hegemony in order to secure access to whatever resources would be needed to maintain their extravagant lifestyle in competition with the rest of the world. It’s this selfish greed that is resented by much of the rest of the world, not least because of the havoc and misery the pursuit of these policies has caused and is causing. The disciples, protégés,and in one case a spouse,of the authors of that document now inhabit the State Department, exerting their influence on Biden over Ukraine.
@sav7568
@sav7568 Жыл бұрын
Er, not really. It was all about Israel. " a new strategy for securing the realm ". In that famous sentence " the realm " was Israel not the US.
@christophershrimpton7627
@christophershrimpton7627 Жыл бұрын
@@sav7568 I was deliberately hesitant to suggest that the motive of these policies and actions included weakening of Israel’s adversaries, especially Iran. I also wonder if the orchestration of the precipitating event might have required greater competence than the alleged offenders possessed.
@johkupohkuxd1697
@johkupohkuxd1697 Жыл бұрын
​@@sav7568 How exactly did toppling Ba'athist Iraq help Israel?
@sav7568
@sav7568 Жыл бұрын
@@johkupohkuxd1697 One less enemy to worry about.
@cynthiagarnham1157
@cynthiagarnham1157 Жыл бұрын
@@johkupohkuxd1697 yup, Saddam, Gadaffi and. Assad , were and are not Muslim fundimentalists. Women could wear what they liked, get a good education, jobs ect. . Now look, with the take over by fanatics, women are back in the dark ages!
@rextyrannos4517
@rextyrannos4517 11 ай бұрын
20 years later and all of the things I felt as a teenaged "revolutionary" leftist about this war exactly what incredibly established respected conservatives now hold. Amazing to see how the overton window shifts while some actually hold solid. I can recall Christopher Hitchens' support for the war was a very confusing to a young atheist leftist and really made me start reassessing things.
@davidcoleman2796
@davidcoleman2796 Жыл бұрын
Our man in Havana is a great book and I really love the movie with Alec Guinness. Castro came to power the very next year . The movie was filmed in Havana . Amazing history .
@lorenzbroll101
@lorenzbroll101 Жыл бұрын
The IMC needs consumers!
@ThePierre58
@ThePierre58 Жыл бұрын
I was delivering supplies to Erbil, the Kurdish part of Iraq. They were selling portraits of GWBush. He was their saviour. As for WMD, I say this, Iraqi desert is immense, " MMFD, miles and miles of f@£ing desert" to paraphrase a RAF pilot. Even the local Iraqi truckers told tales of burials at night. Richard 3 was in a Tescos carpark for 300 years, technology will find stuff in the future.
@cjryan88
@cjryan88 Жыл бұрын
these people should be arrested of this war and loss of life
@andrewoliver8930
@andrewoliver8930 Жыл бұрын
The owner of TalkTV made Blair a Godfather to his child.
@georgeconroy9908
@georgeconroy9908 Жыл бұрын
When you mention this was the answer from others is. Whataboutery😂
@Crouchy232323
@Crouchy232323 Жыл бұрын
The gammon guy is very agreeable
@ivangangur8207
@ivangangur8207 Жыл бұрын
Add John Howard, honest Johnny as per LNP. Of Australia. To the list of war criminals.
@equaliser2265
@equaliser2265 Жыл бұрын
Mistake is not the word, Mass Murder is the word.
@sheilamashali6426
@sheilamashali6426 Жыл бұрын
‘’Blair Creature’’ best description of him so far. I admire his stance on Ukraine / Russia War.
@stity23
@stity23 Жыл бұрын
While Julian Assange is still in jail !
@repentri6624
@repentri6624 Жыл бұрын
His standards of judging seem very high and strict in what qualifies as an atrocity or crime. It seems alot of people praise Nolm's brilliance but it's a fairly narrow minded perspective.
@davidrobertson9271
@davidrobertson9271 Жыл бұрын
PH can be quite acidic on occasion
@fourstarfuel9702
@fourstarfuel9702 Жыл бұрын
It wasn't a mistake. It was a conscious act. End of.
@keyboarddancers7751
@keyboarddancers7751 Жыл бұрын
I remember watching the repeated news footage of the WTC destruction on the night of 9/11 and saying to my girlfriend "we'll be going to war over this."
@groomys67
@groomys67 Жыл бұрын
Ooooooh you clever boy. Thank you for sharing your wisdom with us.
@christopherfleming7505
@christopherfleming7505 Жыл бұрын
Of all the politicians I have known in my life, I think I hate Tony Blair the most. There are no words to express the evil he did while in power.
@ddjay1363
@ddjay1363 Жыл бұрын
Peter Hitchens' brother , Christopher was a very loud advocate for the 2nd Iraq invasion. He was adamant it was justified to 'get rid of Sadam' and his 'evil fascist party' etc.
@bigbong620
@bigbong620 Жыл бұрын
The Bush administration's useful idiot.
@robertburke2246
@robertburke2246 Жыл бұрын
Christopher Hitchens has to be the only person who was against the gulf war and for the Iraq war.
@seandelap8587
@seandelap8587 Жыл бұрын
What would the Hichens household been like on the eve of the Iraq war because didn't his brother Christopher support the Iraq war
@loafersheffield
@loafersheffield Жыл бұрын
Yes. Christopher is on record as saying that his support for the Iraq invasion was to liberate the Kurds. The only group scattered across three borders that did not have their independent nation state. His journalism took him to Iraq and he was appalled by the state of fear that Iraqis experienced under the Hussein regime. Dank did a mad lads on Uday Hussein. As per, intervention without a long term strategy for stabilising and ensuring legitimate power , combined with a poorly thought out exit strategy, left the country with a power vacuum. Just like Afghanistan. How and why do they eff it up, one country to the next? Incompetence or deliberate?
@williamwilson4162
@williamwilson4162 Жыл бұрын
It wasn't a mistake it was very deliberate, Saddams mistake was threatening to sell oil in Euros instead of dollars that was when they decided he had to go.
@ElaIEO
@ElaIEO Жыл бұрын
Mistake ! It was a crime.
@sadmancaves
@sadmancaves Жыл бұрын
this is not an ideological thing it's about oil and money
@darrenlee9237
@darrenlee9237 Жыл бұрын
I completely agree with Peter. Although interestingly his brother Christopher was a staunch advocate of the George W. Bush government's decision to go back into Iraq in 2003.
@cesarpolitics7576
@cesarpolitics7576 Жыл бұрын
If you think they are mad at them because they invaded iraq it is not too difficult to convince yourself that they would have done it anyway.
@jota3732
@jota3732 Жыл бұрын
Oil oil oil nothing else, most people wouldn’t even know where Iraq was if it didn’t have any .
@supperspreader
@supperspreader Жыл бұрын
Interesting observation of Hitchens to suggest the war would have gone ahead with out the pretext of 9:11. 🤔
@hittitecharioteer
@hittitecharioteer Жыл бұрын
Foreign policy driven by America's military industrial complex. It's quite hard to argue with Peter Hitchens' reasonings.
@kevinbillington9773
@kevinbillington9773 Жыл бұрын
Zalensky should be careful, as you say we supported Saddam against Iran.
@freebornjohn2687
@freebornjohn2687 Жыл бұрын
It was a mistake to invade Iraq. If the US and its allies had just focused on Afghanistan it would have had a far better chance of developing into a stable country and not being dragged back to the dark ages, and the Middle East would probably avoided the chaos of the Islamic State. One thing to remember is that the Tories supported the war and also would have had the same policy if they had been in power. Blair was too caught up in his relationship with Bush to see the wood for the trees.
@themccarthyplan2020
@themccarthyplan2020 Жыл бұрын
The controversy of Zionism 🕊️❤️🙏☘️
@jamesgallagher5933
@jamesgallagher5933 Жыл бұрын
WARS MAKE MONEY
@onastick2411
@onastick2411 Жыл бұрын
I was driving to work, down the M50, and it came on the radio (would have been Radio 4), that they were preparing to attack Iraq, or sent them an ultimatum or something, and literally I was laughing to myself, and saying out loud, someone's going to be in hot water for this, they mean Iran (and about time too). I was stunned when I actually got to work, and realised they actually meant Iraq. Totally, why them, what the hell have they done, other than be irritating. Risky Shift, Group Think, more powerful than you think.
@adambritain5774
@adambritain5774 11 ай бұрын
Why is an invasion of Iran acceptable in your opinion?
@onastick2411
@onastick2411 10 ай бұрын
@@adambritain5774 Well, Iran is an enemy proclaimed, of the West, and run by a theocratic cabal, who run the country by a barbaric backwards religion, by the edicts of their imaginary friends. They believe that Mo on his shining chariot will come down to save them. primitive barbarians that they are. I would merely reduce the country to rubble, and leave the Mullah's hanging in rows for public persuasion, and their Mosques a smoking ruin. After they've been swatted like a fly, they'd probably get the message. Of course for 9/11, I'd do worse than that. Hope this clears it up for you?
@jonoessex
@jonoessex Жыл бұрын
Well done to Peter a right-winger in opposing the war. It's worth pointing out though that he initially thought about supporting it.
@troygregory7672
@troygregory7672 Жыл бұрын
people will never learn politiisons what ever country are corupt
@kevinstanley3581
@kevinstanley3581 Жыл бұрын
I basically agree with Hitchens on the Iraq war and think Tony Bliar should have been sent to prison for lying to the British people. He also refers that the Americans were looking for a pretext ie. WMD and invading a sovereign country against international law - quite right but didn't Putin use 'Nazis' as a pretext for invading Ukraine, also a sovereign country, which Hitchens blamed on the West and NATO expansion and not on Putin's desire to recreate Imperial Russia. I do smell some BS from Hitchens.
@EdMcF1
@EdMcF1 Жыл бұрын
Indeed: He's a stopped clock, right twice a day.
@rushshukla4636
@rushshukla4636 Жыл бұрын
Imperial Russia is a distraction. The West and Russia are united in creating a New World Order and imposing the Chinese Social Credit System or CBDC (Central Banks Digital Currency). Look at the bigger picture not the media propaganda. They will use this war as a springboard for imposing world tyranny which was always the end goal of Western Imperialism.
@andrewoliver8930
@andrewoliver8930 Жыл бұрын
The owner of this station backed him.
@oldschoolcockneylover8138
@oldschoolcockneylover8138 Жыл бұрын
The fact Allistar Campbell is paraded about like some elder statesman to tell us off and take the moral highground over issues like the EU on the BBC is enough to make a fly sick!
@MGCaverly
@MGCaverly Жыл бұрын
The Blair “creature” … Nice one Mr Hitchens!
@1942december
@1942december Жыл бұрын
America has a history of interfering in other countries, and leaving them worse off. Countries who aided them are guilty too.
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