Ultimate Piston AR-15 Meltdown!

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Iraqveteran8888

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@dizkoteck
@dizkoteck 9 жыл бұрын
that scope played an integral part of this test
@MOBROOKS
@MOBROOKS 6 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@billbooks2891
@billbooks2891 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but it looks good af
@shoktroop
@shoktroop 9 жыл бұрын
In my opinion that was probably the best video for 3 reasons. 1. Steel case ammo works fine with no issues, even under full auto. 2. As you said, now manufacturers can resolve any issues with products. 3. Simply awesome to watch a gas piston system run like a champ.
@maverick9708
@maverick9708 2 жыл бұрын
Hi-point famous for #2 if you know what i mean lmao
@kylehills8234
@kylehills8234 8 жыл бұрын
The swathes of PTSD Eric must have. He is so brave for shooting that gun, all the casings, the smell, the recoil. Oh the HUMANITY.
@Thisshitcrazybruh
@Thisshitcrazybruh 8 жыл бұрын
lol
@neon7104
@neon7104 8 жыл бұрын
Hillary for Prison 2016 I'm subbing because of your name
@Thisshitcrazybruh
@Thisshitcrazybruh 8 жыл бұрын
Neon I appreciate it.
@kylehills8234
@kylehills8234 8 жыл бұрын
Hillary for Prison 2016 Glad I could do my part.
@taylorw.2856
@taylorw.2856 8 жыл бұрын
Kyle Hills shooting guns helps calm my ptsd, i love the smell too... i like shooting without ears on... love the 5.56 crackle
@ilikeanime66
@ilikeanime66 9 жыл бұрын
So we had a DI AR fail just above 800 rounds, and we had a good AK 47 fail just above 800 rounds, and now we have a piston AR failing just after 800 rounds. Of course all 3 guns failed for different reasons, and the DI AR was the worse failure of the three, but at about the same time all three weapons would have been out of the fight. I guess in the end it doesn't matter all that much what you pick, as long as it's a decent rifle, your odds are pretty good . Great video as always.
@alpine9996
@alpine9996 6 жыл бұрын
The POF went 2700 rounds
@TRUTHISABSOLUTE777
@TRUTHISABSOLUTE777 6 жыл бұрын
@@alpine9996 which one ?
@mauricebibriesca7297
@mauricebibriesca7297 5 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget the AK still worked after banging it on the table lol
@IlmarBeekman
@IlmarBeekman 5 жыл бұрын
LMT fixed the heat treat on their bolt carrier. If this was the new system I’m sure it would match the POF or better it.
@joebagodonutssummertime8267
@joebagodonutssummertime8267 5 жыл бұрын
@@IlmarBeekman I was curious as to what LMT said or did to fix this. They are a top tier company..
@Voluntarists
@Voluntarists 9 жыл бұрын
Great job. This is exactly the kind of research we need to improve firearm designs. You are a scientist.
@TactiCalifornia
@TactiCalifornia 9 жыл бұрын
I was not expecting the piston to last that long! These are by far my favorite videos from you guys!
@kentsextro9692
@kentsextro9692 9 жыл бұрын
Now I want to see it done with a PWS Long Stroke upper!
@zebrastripes8514
@zebrastripes8514 8 жыл бұрын
Kent Sextro nahhh that would run forever loll
@pd5156
@pd5156 6 жыл бұрын
@@zebrastripes8514 Dont think so, but i would see that as well.
@Glaudge
@Glaudge 5 жыл бұрын
PWS uses nitrided 416r stainless for their barrels. those dont hold up in full auto fire
@williamw9120
@williamw9120 3 жыл бұрын
@@Glaudge the mod2 uses 41V50... Fwiw I have 9500 rounds of steel through my mod2, all suppressed, and have yet to clean it. Lol
@Glaudge
@Glaudge 3 жыл бұрын
@@williamw9120 when did they change? i remember 416r on their website at one point
@tHaH4x0r
@tHaH4x0r 9 жыл бұрын
You guys look like proper bankrobbers
@zainaku
@zainaku 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the awesome video, but also thank you for the "if you haven't gotten shot yet" portion. Most people who think about gunfights don't consider that if you are using a main battle rifle, and you have expended over 100 rounds, if you haven't been shot yet, youre doing extremely well.
@stevenl.cranford5992
@stevenl.cranford5992 8 жыл бұрын
Watching the AK, AR gas-impingement, AR piston meltdown test it was interesting that all three rifles seem to fail around the 8 minute mark and roughly similar round counts. You could make a career testing different components in each rifle to improve the results (i.e. the barrel mentioned in this video). Can't wait for the next video in this series.
@Gungeek
@Gungeek 9 жыл бұрын
When is the Mosin meltdown video? :D
@ERIKREID1
@ERIKREID1 9 жыл бұрын
yes!!!
@VermontStateGuardSgt
@VermontStateGuardSgt 9 жыл бұрын
+Gungeek I don't think youtube would allow a video that long to be uploaded.
@Gungeek
@Gungeek 9 жыл бұрын
TheGamingGuardsman There are 8 or 10 hour long videos on youtube :)
@Iraqveteran8888
@Iraqveteran8888 9 жыл бұрын
+Gungeek Scotty, I might need a few Canadians to come and help with that one!
@mhymyk4022
@mhymyk4022 9 жыл бұрын
+Gungeek Eric's shoulder would fail before the gun did... lol
@majormassenspektrometer
@majormassenspektrometer 9 жыл бұрын
Damn I love these videos so much. Your meltdowns are by far the best. Please make one with as many weapons as you can get ahold of and especially with an original Russian AK. ^^
@Iraqveteran8888
@Iraqveteran8888 9 жыл бұрын
+bfgguns we have some fun ones planned. They take awhile to put together sometimes, because we usually have to have certain guns specifically manufactured for the meltdowns and that takes time and money.
@billbuck3590
@billbuck3590 9 жыл бұрын
+bfgguns an ak original would be awesome.
@tacticalgerman2758
@tacticalgerman2758 9 жыл бұрын
Nice, dass du wieder Videos machst!
@rapl1183
@rapl1183 9 жыл бұрын
+bfgguns He could just test a converted Saiga :| They did a torture test with a WASR AK and a Russian VEPR already.
@DankBullet
@DankBullet 9 жыл бұрын
+bfgguns Or a Bulgy:)
@StarwarsHalofreak
@StarwarsHalofreak 9 жыл бұрын
11:43 total "Oh Jesus Christ" moment right there. God bless you, Barry.
@5point5six60
@5point5six60 8 жыл бұрын
this LMT ran like a champ...idk what everyone is complaining about..lol...and when you add in factors other than how many rounds can be cycled in 5 minutes it's an awesome platform. The true MRP and ability to switch caliber plus superb accuracy sounds like a winner. maybe next time you're out on patrol with 1000 rds could be an issue haha.
@CrashFactory666
@CrashFactory666 9 жыл бұрын
No matter how crazy you get on your videos I really think it is awesome that you always keep very strict range edict. Keep up the awesome videos.
@sergeantbigmac
@sergeantbigmac 9 жыл бұрын
Fascinating to see it lasted virtually the same amount of time as the traditional DI AR.
@billshort2624
@billshort2624 8 жыл бұрын
I would love to see how a long stroke piston AR like the PWS would hold up to this kind of test. I would think a quality long stroke piston system would be the one to out preform the others.
@TheWoundChannel
@TheWoundChannel 9 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, well thought out and informative. I'd like to see an HBAR 20" barrel on a DI gun now.
@JoeyFragnoli
@JoeyFragnoli 9 жыл бұрын
I agree, since it was the barrel and not the gas system that failed in the direct impingement video, I would like to see if a di gun could go longer with this barrel.
@TheAnnoyingBoss
@TheAnnoyingBoss 2 жыл бұрын
Lmt makes these monolithic uppers and they have a 20 inch barrel for one of them. I don't think they're DI but it's still pretty sweet how you can get an lmt quality monolithic upper with a full length barrel that also isn't old-school m16a4. Eventhough I like those too because I can actually afford one and I cannot afford an lmt 😂😂😂 but maybe one day
@ThePatriotParadox
@ThePatriotParadox Жыл бұрын
Like to see a short H BAR barrel!
@quinnmoore5985
@quinnmoore5985 2 жыл бұрын
That face shield really makes sense doing these, i thought it was goofy but watching that blow up thats smart
@michaelconatser3245
@michaelconatser3245 7 жыл бұрын
You feed this one fast direct impingement Ar , listen to your breathing, I watch all your videos & love them , very much information! Thanks for them
@ryanvernon9473
@ryanvernon9473 9 жыл бұрын
Hey you should do a SCAR meltdown.
@NWA744
@NWA744 3 жыл бұрын
That would melt your wallet first.
@chriskpls6010
@chriskpls6010 3 жыл бұрын
@@NWA744 😂🤣😂🤣
@user-jq4nq8xg3h
@user-jq4nq8xg3h 8 ай бұрын
Dude, a SCAR 17 meltdown! I'll donate money for that.
@nutz4gunz457
@nutz4gunz457 9 жыл бұрын
SCAR 17 meltdown would be awesome.
@TheoldSouth
@TheoldSouth 9 жыл бұрын
+Nutz4Gunz45 and expensive
@MrWest3
@MrWest3 9 жыл бұрын
It would be nice just to have the money for a Scar 17...
@nutz4gunz457
@nutz4gunz457 9 жыл бұрын
Agreed, but it's for science.
@CenturionC4
@CenturionC4 9 жыл бұрын
+Nutz4Gunz45 But will it melt?
@TRUTHISABSOLUTE777
@TRUTHISABSOLUTE777 6 жыл бұрын
@vglncom1 do it fo the chillen do it fo da keeds
@caseyterrence1606
@caseyterrence1606 7 жыл бұрын
We need to see this test with a Primary Weapons Systems upper long stroke piston. Or perhaps not. I'd hate to somehow be dissapointed, as my PWS seems perfect.
@Booster357
@Booster357 4 жыл бұрын
Oh yes! i see that too late.
@tanhelmet
@tanhelmet 8 жыл бұрын
at minute 10, i had same issue . my CMMG gas piston had failure to eject. I thought it was the extractor. luckily I has another bolt with me. when I was done. I concluded the ejector spring had stopped working. easy 8 dollar fix. I updated my other 3 rifles. Adams, POF and LWRC. the only D I rifle I have left is a Mk12 clone for precision. great video.
@Evan-lx9lw
@Evan-lx9lw 9 жыл бұрын
As a neophyte I'm surprised / amazed you're willing to do these tests. They've been interesting to watch, especially the Glock one. Thanks.
@JohnnyAKLove
@JohnnyAKLove 8 жыл бұрын
We need more meltdown videos. By far my favorite of all the gun shows I watch. Keep it up!
@walterhwhite109
@walterhwhite109 9 жыл бұрын
lf you get a chance do a melt down of a S&W Sport. I would like to see how far you can push a "budget" ar. Thanks for all your work!
@Metal1USMC
@Metal1USMC 3 жыл бұрын
I know it’s an old video but LMT had heat treat issues that caused that same issue on my piston MRP. They replaced my BCG free of charge. I’d like to see the test with the new BCG.
@Vahkii
@Vahkii 2 жыл бұрын
Huh, good to know.
@kkhankhalil
@kkhankhalil 9 жыл бұрын
A very decent approach to know the meltdown point of a Fire Arm, but there is no ending to these episodes bec. when the barrier is broken, another comes in the way. Improving the fire arm will increase the amount of ammo absorption but it will "ultimately" fail on another point. In practical, such a catastrophic situation never comes, either a person dies or the fire arm. And you are the person imho, who has fired record rounds so far in a man's life. Great work.
@richardkautz2947
@richardkautz2947 2 жыл бұрын
A gas piston AR with full auto ?! That's so badass ! 👍
@Cowboy.underwater
@Cowboy.underwater 8 жыл бұрын
So if you ran a thick barrel on a Di you would probably get over 1000. On the old test, it wasn't the gas system that failed, it was the skinny barrel. It looks like it's time for a retest.
@ballinvsxx
@ballinvsxx 8 жыл бұрын
Agree. Not an apples to apples test. Since di gun went to almost the same before barrel blew out then di is easily the winner here.
@Mrgunsngear
@Mrgunsngear 9 жыл бұрын
Very nice!
@isleofgreg
@isleofgreg 9 жыл бұрын
Indeed.
@warlock1005
@warlock1005 9 жыл бұрын
Hi
@azdabfam2074
@azdabfam2074 9 жыл бұрын
+warlock hello
@larz456
@larz456 9 жыл бұрын
+grinc333 Thanks
@isleofgreg
@isleofgreg 9 жыл бұрын
Lars lol I wish more people would get the joke on this and chime in. Every time he does this, we need to have hundreds of people pile on with their "Indeeds" and such things
@aluisious
@aluisious 9 жыл бұрын
Seeing him standing there in an Interceptor, with a ballistic mask, firing this AR full auto...one word popped to mind. 'murica!
@user1acount
@user1acount 9 жыл бұрын
That's a PASGT Flak Jacket
@Securitydude83
@Securitydude83 9 жыл бұрын
+Mike Jones Correct.
@combattactics4379
@combattactics4379 8 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on hitting 1M subscribers brother!
@dozer313
@dozer313 Ай бұрын
I wish you made more of these videos again very interesting and I've watched these melt downs many times lol
@UncleJimmema
@UncleJimmema 9 жыл бұрын
It would be kind of neat to see you guys do a "bullet proof melt down". Build an upper with a bunch of parts that you think will make it last the longest before failure.
@BuffRANGE
@BuffRANGE 9 жыл бұрын
Interesting on the failure to lock open on the last round. My friends LMT does that on occasion.
@AllDayEveryDayNL
@AllDayEveryDayNL 9 жыл бұрын
I love how these videos are fun to watch and educational, Keep it up guys!
@jaymeseaston8117
@jaymeseaston8117 2 жыл бұрын
Post script- an M16 magazine loaded with 18/20 weighs 11 ounces each. 40 mags = 760 rounds = 27 1/2 pounds, or 3.3 gallons of water. In terms of kit, 20 round magazines are shorter and straight making a more compact package, with less volume; also, a lower profile in prone position, or traveling in wait-a-minute brush. It's easier to put 3 20 round mags in your pocket (18+54=72) than two 28/30 (28+56=84). That's only 12 less It isn't just the total number available, but time spent into moving to the point of contact while maintaining situational awareness; if you drop a reload, it's better to get a new one off your person without taking eyes off the threat.
@michaelolszta2571
@michaelolszta2571 8 жыл бұрын
Interesting. So it looks like the DI and the Piston meltdown experiments went just about the same amount of rounds before the rifles couldn't fire any longer. So much for the superiority of the piston guns! I'll keep shooting my Colt M4 in its original DI configuration. Accuracy is better than a piston gun and as long as I have a small bottle of lube with me, I should be able to shoot as much as I want without any problems. Eric, your published experiments are outstanding! The proof is truly in the pudding, Sir, and you've served that pudding up for all to taste! Much appreciated!!!
@TheSalient0ne
@TheSalient0ne 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! My thoughts are that they should machine contacting surfaces of the piston rod / divot the contact point on the carrier - hence providing a guide for a repetitive contact area, while strengthening both metals. Thanks for another entertaining video!
@andrewperchikoff1656
@andrewperchikoff1656 9 жыл бұрын
I keep hoping one of these days I will see you do "Ultimate Scar Meltdown"..... probably the coolest video you will ever do
@TheJohn8765
@TheJohn8765 9 жыл бұрын
+Iraqveteran8888 I'm glad to see Eric is wearing a bit more PPE for these videos. One of these days, a stressed out gun is going to have something go catastrophically wrong on the bolt end of the gun and I'd like Eric to keep his fingers and face :)
@LexCinnabon
@LexCinnabon 9 жыл бұрын
Very cool. The same test with an MR556 upper or a 416 upper would be fantastic!
@accur81
@accur81 9 жыл бұрын
Cool vid, guys. It takes guts to run a gun at over 1,000 degrees and I'm glad that AR didn't turn into a grenade on you. I used to be a huge piston fan and now most of my ARs, except two, are DGI. My SR-556 has gone over 1,500 rounds without cleaning or jamming, but I broke down and gave it a thorough cleaning. I notice that DGI ARs can run into issues at 400-500 rounds or so without cleaning, depending on the components being used. Nickel-boron BCGs work well for me, and I'm a fan of stainless steel barrels.
@zmasterb92
@zmasterb92 9 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested to see how an upper from primary weapons systems would do in a test like this. Their piston is connected directly to the BCG so there would be no chance for it to strike it
@SethWilcox82
@SethWilcox82 9 жыл бұрын
What about a DI upper with a heavy barrel?
@mctourer5549
@mctourer5549 9 жыл бұрын
+Seth Wilcox I agree the test should be repeated using the same profile barrel on a DI rifle, since it was the barrel that failed. i could see the gas tube melting down at some point tho.
@MrBilly406
@MrBilly406 9 жыл бұрын
Good video, no more Nixon taking temp readings please we all know its gonna be incredibly hot, he is in the way and annoying.
@robertkubrick3738
@robertkubrick3738 9 жыл бұрын
+MrBilly406 Not to mention that if it's off the scale, the longer that ammo sits in the chamber the more likely it is to cook off.
@richardnixon5499
@richardnixon5499 6 жыл бұрын
Leave me alone
@sanctobellum290
@sanctobellum290 4 жыл бұрын
Made me pucker. I mean, our hero is in bomb team gear and Nixon keeps standing next to a barrel that's being tested to failure (if possible) while it's being run.
@JohnZ556
@JohnZ556 Жыл бұрын
What did LMT say about this?? This deserves a rematch if that was just a faulty carrier.
@spektr540hemi
@spektr540hemi 8 жыл бұрын
LWRC, POF and PWS vs. Colt... Each ran 1500rnds using on of those crank triggers. Colt got a bit sticky but still ran. Not the same but for what it is worth to anyone. Would love to see these go head to head here!
@scottyjohn
@scottyjohn 9 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a delayed roller blowback such as a G3 or HK53 meltdown to see how that mechanism fairs since it has no gas tube or piston and see if that makes a difference
@JBates949
@JBates949 9 жыл бұрын
+Ian W. A very good idea---test rifles without gas tubes or pistons.
@Alexx120493
@Alexx120493 9 жыл бұрын
+Ian W. problem is that they are kind of pricey compared to an AR or an AK
@JBates949
@JBates949 9 жыл бұрын
Axel I hear ya loud & clear---I 'wish' I could afford an HK rifle. (I'm still working on getting an HK-VP 40!)
@georgeshorter142
@georgeshorter142 9 жыл бұрын
+Ian W. The only problem is that these aren't as modular and will certainly end in destruction of a $20,000+ gun
@Derpen1234
@Derpen1234 9 жыл бұрын
+Axel yt moneyzz
@M855A1
@M855A1 9 жыл бұрын
full auto 10/22 meltdown!!!
@davidwarren719
@davidwarren719 9 жыл бұрын
So the question becomes: how long would the DI gun have lasted with a similar barrel in it?
@Aleckael
@Aleckael 7 жыл бұрын
730 rounds on the POF DI gun, 733 on this piston. The POF gun had a catastrophic failure, the LMT piston wasn't quite that bad, but they both failed at about the same point.
@eggersm.r.5752
@eggersm.r.5752 7 жыл бұрын
The POF-USA P416 never failed, it shot over 2,700. They couldn't get it to fail. And it was a piston with a 10.5" barrel.
@supermario7528
@supermario7528 5 жыл бұрын
It seems the DI guns fail on barrel, this LMT failed only because of the piston, i would Love to see the same LMT MRP tested with the DI setup.
@royrogers3624
@royrogers3624 Жыл бұрын
@supermario75 "only because of the piston" so it only failed because a major part failure? Legit it's a major working part that's just as significant as a barrel pop the gun isn't working anymore
@BenjaminEmm
@BenjaminEmm 9 жыл бұрын
What more could you ask for than 6 or 7 minutes listening to Eric breath! ;)
@ahony7
@ahony7 8 жыл бұрын
wow amazing... I am from Indonesia. I always follow your video at any time . I am very fond of civilians and display a variety of automatic weapons that you upload . thanks so much for their knowledge.
@JD-yz8cn
@JD-yz8cn 8 жыл бұрын
I think it's important to note that you took longer pauses in the direct gas demo... plus I could see your breath, meaning it was probably a bit chilly during that demo as well. Idk. Just my 2 cents.
@logansmith4215
@logansmith4215 8 жыл бұрын
it doesn't matter how cold it is outside when the barrel is 1300°
@JD-yz8cn
@JD-yz8cn 8 жыл бұрын
+logan smith yeah it does
@grizz474
@grizz474 9 жыл бұрын
I think the carrier failed causing the piston to bend.
@ezrabailey7026
@ezrabailey7026 9 жыл бұрын
at 9:10 HEAVY BREATHING lol I was so scared when Ray went out there it could have cooked off and hurt him
@Iraqveteran8888
@Iraqveteran8888 9 жыл бұрын
+SNIPING 300 actually I'm not breathing hard at all. It's just that these microphones we use are so good they can pick up a mouse farting from a mile away
@556bc
@556bc 9 жыл бұрын
+Iraqveteran8888 Yeah, that was annoying. I had to turn the volume way way down.
@ezrabailey7026
@ezrabailey7026 9 жыл бұрын
it was still a good video though and I think he should make more meltdown videos, like with the m60 that would be awesome!
@556bc
@556bc 9 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was still a good video. Good for entertainment. Although repeatedly calling him Mr. President wasn't funny. Nobody laughed the first time, stop trying. We get it, Nixon mask.
@Thindorama
@Thindorama 9 жыл бұрын
+556bc it was pretty dang funny you just don't have a sense of humor
@EngineeringWizard11
@EngineeringWizard11 9 жыл бұрын
I love how you guys put an optic on it without much intent to use it! ;)
@iam5692
@iam5692 9 жыл бұрын
Hello from Rhode Island Eric. Love your videos.
@PdxTaz
@PdxTaz 8 жыл бұрын
This is why I will never run a short stroke piston setup. The whole system relies off smacking bolt back. Try this with a PWS or and ARAK, something that is actually a reliable piston setup. You'll probably get thousands through it before failure
@csnation
@csnation 9 жыл бұрын
At least you can go bolt action for awhile even if this does occur.
@StarCypher
@StarCypher 9 жыл бұрын
I hope Eric and Chad will find a sacrificial AK-74 for a meltdown...
@Lostlife656
@Lostlife656 9 жыл бұрын
agreed
@danieljones7490
@danieljones7490 9 жыл бұрын
They melted down a wasr a while back
@nono-xw6qd
@nono-xw6qd 9 жыл бұрын
+Daniel Jones that's a AK-47, he's talking about the AK-74, aka the little brother of the 47. Debatably more comparable to a ar than a 47.
@StarCypher
@StarCypher 9 жыл бұрын
Daniel Jones The WASR was garbage... They did another meltdown with a VEPR AK and it lasted 900+ rounds. The AK-74 shoots the 5.45x39 round, which is basically Russia's version of the .223/5.56x45 NATO used in ARs. I think an AK-74 has the potential to last longer than the AKM and AR, while possibly giving the Glock's 1,200 rd count a challenge.
@danieljones7490
@danieljones7490 9 жыл бұрын
+DecimationCDXX +no no I misread the original comment, thanks for not being assholes about correcting me. that is an interesting thought though, I wonder how differently it'd perform compared to the vepr-which was more relevant of a test to me because I'm not a fan of wasrs at all.
@kevinlin7674
@kevinlin7674 8 жыл бұрын
I had a piston driven AR T91 as service rifle here, our DS says the piston system is more reliable than the DI system, but what i think matters the most is the overall build quality of the rifle itself
@willfrometa4003
@willfrometa4003 8 жыл бұрын
Good Job brother!! These videos are a huge help in my decision on what I'm going to spend my hard earned money on. Keep them coming!!
@redwolfoutcast114
@redwolfoutcast114 8 жыл бұрын
have you run an H&K 416 to the failure point?
@darkdeath4523
@darkdeath4523 8 жыл бұрын
Well H&K dont like selling military grade Weapons to civiliens as i have heard,and getting one of those are also a pain.
@autismisuncontrollable4925
@autismisuncontrollable4925 8 жыл бұрын
Albert Druett Its not that they don't like it, it's illegal to import military grade weapons.
@bobbyraejohnson
@bobbyraejohnson 8 жыл бұрын
that be expensive as hell.
@ridgel7
@ridgel7 8 жыл бұрын
they can be brought in but only for military/law enforcement purposes. my department has H&K 416s.
@whatsreallygoingon253
@whatsreallygoingon253 8 жыл бұрын
ridgel7 they make a a semi version now
@ehonda4208
@ehonda4208 9 жыл бұрын
Well now your going to have to do the DI gun with the H Bar barrel. lol
@DatGrunt
@DatGrunt 9 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a SCAR meltdown :D
@justarandomchannelname6583
@justarandomchannelname6583 9 жыл бұрын
+FollowMeInfantry Too expensive lol
@DatGrunt
@DatGrunt 9 жыл бұрын
JustARandomChannelName I know :(
@Ocho-Sinko
@Ocho-Sinko 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, Eric shooting like Rambo while looking and sounding like Jason great video, keep up the good work 💪🏾
@jamesedwards1588
@jamesedwards1588 8 жыл бұрын
I want to see the primary weapon system (PWS) piston AR and the patriot ordinance factory (POF) piston driven AR go head to head in a melt down. I love these melt down videos. What a way to earn a living. He'll toss in the Sig Sauer piston AR too.. That would be a cool show down. Thanks love it.
@FlowBaka
@FlowBaka 9 жыл бұрын
I feel like the bolt let out and started mushrooming and led the piston go to the path of least resistance.
@montepr803
@montepr803 9 жыл бұрын
THIS
@NavyCuda
@NavyCuda 9 жыл бұрын
+Nam Nguyen I believe you are absolutely correct. Either through heat soaking into the bolt, incorrect heat treating, or insufficient material, the material was soft enough to mushroom. As the bolt carrier started to mushroom there likely would have been more space between the bolt carrier and the piston, adding to the pistons momentum before striking the bolt carrier. Due to the small amount of material, the bolt carrier mushroomed towards the top, moving the divot upwards. The piston would be forced to the center of the divot by the impact, bending the piston rod. From a design standpoint this is a direct advantage to the internal short stroke piston of the DI system, which has the piston concentric to the boltcarrier. The force can only act on the bolt carrier in one direction.
@flossordie2256
@flossordie2256 9 жыл бұрын
+Nam Nguyen That is very smart, your probably right.
@mastalee1776
@mastalee1776 9 жыл бұрын
+NavySturmGewehr so, if the bolt where the piston was hitting the carrier, it could of gone on longer maybe
@NavyCuda
@NavyCuda 9 жыл бұрын
mastalee If the mushroomed burrs had been removed, yes the rifle probably would have continued to function for a while. I imagine that the piston is captured for the most part, so it would take the piston actually bending enough to bind up in its normal path. This probably wouldn't have happened, it's more likely it would continue to mushroom over the bolt carrier at an accelerated rate until the bolt carrier bound up again against the charging handle.
@havilahgold2942
@havilahgold2942 8 жыл бұрын
What did the guys at LMT (Lewis machine and tool) say about the problem???
@havilahgold2942
@havilahgold2942 8 жыл бұрын
+Havilah Gold Would be interesting to know what they had to say.
@havilahgold2942
@havilahgold2942 8 жыл бұрын
+Havilah Gold Its been a month and a half so i hope that they would have said something by now.
@5jjt
@5jjt 2 жыл бұрын
Why did the Melt Downs have stopped? They're the most successful videos.
@absolutelybased3251
@absolutelybased3251 2 жыл бұрын
Ammo prices
@redjkl1
@redjkl1 9 жыл бұрын
An H-bar profiled barrel for the DI system would make the test actually more scientific. Giving the piston a better barrel than the DI doesn't really give us the best results. Thanks for the vids though. I would never be able to do that, so it's cool to see y'all do it.
@Nathan-jh1ho
@Nathan-jh1ho 5 жыл бұрын
Can you do a musket melt down?
@natedixon4731
@natedixon4731 8 жыл бұрын
Do an LWRC AR15 piston meltdown!
@modsoul325
@modsoul325 8 жыл бұрын
That would be interesting with the segmented piston providing looser tolerances and less torque. Also, would be interesting to see how their fluted barrel would hold up. It would cool faster, but might be weaker?
@natedixon4731
@natedixon4731 8 жыл бұрын
+USER 422 yeah I want to see that twist fluted barrel how it will hold up with all that full auto abuse but fully auot is never healthy firearms
@natedixon4731
@natedixon4731 8 жыл бұрын
Go check the test results of an LWRC rifle on KZbin and come back to me
@Mildcat743
@Mildcat743 9 жыл бұрын
Maybe it was the light, but i swear there was some brass ammo in there
@archangel20031
@archangel20031 9 жыл бұрын
The gas system did not fail, it was the barrel being weaker. If the heavy barrel was used with the gas system, It's reasonable to assume it should have gone longer.
@absolutmauser
@absolutmauser 9 жыл бұрын
+archangel20031 This.
@ericmatthews3307
@ericmatthews3307 9 жыл бұрын
+archangel20031 at least until the gas tube burst, which, even with standard barrel, it's a toss up which will burst first.
@archangel20031
@archangel20031 9 жыл бұрын
+eric matthews Funny that they use 304 when 316 would be much better.
@JJGuccione
@JJGuccione 2 жыл бұрын
Eric says: "And they say, oh well, it's a piston AR you never have to clean it or anything like that. Yeah, they can go a little longer without being cleaned, sure they provide a little bit more reliable operation under adverse conditions. You'll get a little bit more longevity in terms of continued use in the field without maintenance but at the core, it's still the same gun." Let's make it simple - - A little longer without being cleaned (bullshit Eric, they can go a lot longer). - A little bit more reliable operation under adverse conditions. - A little bit more longevity in terms of continued use in the field without maintenance. Geezus…I'm sold. And, guess who owns a POF 416 Edge? I think your round count was 2,737? If my math is correct and it is, that's 3-times the round-count of a DI. I popped an ACOG TA01NSN on that POF 416. Is it heavier? Yes, but when all the CLP is gone and there's no gasoline and/or diesel fuel to siphon, you'll be sorry. There aren't any ultrasonic cleaners to dunk your BCG into out the field. Maybe you can rob or swap parts with Gas-Tube-Johnny to make your DI serviceable?
@greggwonder2199
@greggwonder2199 9 жыл бұрын
Eric, big fan of your videos. You have answered many questions by doing these tests that are free to shooters. I have several ar's and often wondered how much abuse they can take, I baby my guns. I agree with u totally that esp new shooters must learn and choose the correct weapon for their purpose and keep learning. There are those who should never own a gun. Hope to c u guys one day.😁
@TheHandgunhero
@TheHandgunhero 9 жыл бұрын
FN FAL meltdown next?
@glockdown7976
@glockdown7976 9 жыл бұрын
Any word from LMT yet? I'm not on the email list.
@dabraapman5257
@dabraapman5257 9 жыл бұрын
People in that area must think there is a war going on
@mysteriousfleas
@mysteriousfleas 9 жыл бұрын
That's a surprisingly nice low-profile forestock for a piston AR. Nice to see that becoming an option.
@jkreviea
@jkreviea 6 жыл бұрын
Freaking sweet. But totally impractical. You may need a heavier spring on the rod to accommodate a fully automatic lower to prevent the slap to the carrier. Like you said, that upper was not purpose-built for full auto. However, it did have fantastic results.
@aSuspiciousPete
@aSuspiciousPete 9 жыл бұрын
SUPPRESSOR MELTDOWN PLEASE
@gwhittle222
@gwhittle222 9 жыл бұрын
It would be really interesting to use a hot load with high pressures (so supersonic) with a suppressor to see if it does any damage to the baffles too, if you can borrow that m16 lower again!
@JohnAIDoe
@JohnAIDoe 9 жыл бұрын
Ruger 10/22 auto test anytime soon?
@OpTicBossaru
@OpTicBossaru 9 жыл бұрын
+John Doe 22 ammo is still unobtainable.
@Xd-lh1ko
@Xd-lh1ko 9 жыл бұрын
agree they need a 22lr melt down
@ericfenske8719
@ericfenske8719 9 жыл бұрын
+[MsR] Master if you're stuck under a rock maybe. I could go around town and pickup thousands of rounds right now.
@OpTicBossaru
@OpTicBossaru 9 жыл бұрын
Eric Fenske its a joke
@MSKommando
@MSKommando 9 жыл бұрын
i want to see G36 meltdown. Its a high quality product. So i want to know how many rounds it eat.
@KarnivorActual
@KarnivorActual 9 жыл бұрын
+MSKommando polymer trunnion has rumors for melting under many rounds and having massive poi shift, I'm not sure how true that is though.
@MSKommando
@MSKommando 9 жыл бұрын
+RAGETREE We just need to test it! I hope Iraqveteran8888 do a G36 Meltdown.
@boocomban
@boocomban 9 жыл бұрын
Well can't find fully automatic mil-spec g36 in US unless you know swat member who not very clever enough to let Eric borrow his g36. And if we look in the past, xm8 are direct design influent by g36(most parts are identical) , and it can't even last more than 5 magazines so i doubt g36 can go better than that.
@Zer0kil0
@Zer0kil0 7 жыл бұрын
you guys should do a video about how much pressure/power is lost from behind the bullet when a portion of the gas goes through the gas system as opposed to if there was no redirection in the gas flow. maybe use an adjustable gas block to close off the system for a couple rounds, or compare it next to a bolt action of the same barrel length and caliber. you know.. for science or whatever.
@crankygunreviews
@crankygunreviews 3 жыл бұрын
Boy it seems like a piston AR is the way to go!
@Targetpopper
@Targetpopper 9 жыл бұрын
I'll stick to Stoner's DI design. Never was a fan of the piston gas system on the AR15.
@NerdWithGuns
@NerdWithGuns 9 жыл бұрын
I thought I was the only one
@fisher1972
@fisher1972 9 жыл бұрын
+Steve Wiswell Me too buddy,ill di anyday.
@kurtkenehan8017
@kurtkenehan8017 9 жыл бұрын
can you do an m1a please
@lewnance
@lewnance 9 жыл бұрын
To compare apples to apples, you need to re-do the DI gun with a HBAR barrel since that was the failure point on the DI gun and not the gas system! PS: How about a "wall-of-tannerite" video?!
@jlpowell8432
@jlpowell8432 2 жыл бұрын
Dude you should do a full auto with a Primary Weapon systems upper! Its piston is attached to bcg and moves near the gas block. Its gas block system is designed with maximum dwell time to reduce the harsh forces on the piston system. Would fire a tad slower but thats fine for me
@keithodonnell5835
@keithodonnell5835 8 жыл бұрын
I thought i was listening to darth vador soon as the failure happened with that heavy ass breathing !!!💯😂
@pgbtwoofive3354
@pgbtwoofive3354 9 жыл бұрын
Nixon is really out of shape
@Prepare2Survive
@Prepare2Survive 9 жыл бұрын
Ruger Mini 14 Next
@warlock1005
@warlock1005 9 жыл бұрын
Eww
@Prepare2Survive
@Prepare2Survive 9 жыл бұрын
warlock What's wrong with the mini 14 ? It's a copy of a rifle that helped us win WWII.
@warlock1005
@warlock1005 9 жыл бұрын
+Prepare2Survive For the price you could do a lot better
@Prepare2Survive
@Prepare2Survive 9 жыл бұрын
warlock Yeah, that's true unless you live in a state that banned AR15 and AK47 rifles and the only preban options cost almost $2000. Regardless the Ruger mini 14 is still a nice robust classic design.
@warlock1005
@warlock1005 9 жыл бұрын
+Prepare2Survive It is a great design. Do you live in NY?
@newbzor52
@newbzor52 8 жыл бұрын
Isn't it kind of apples to oranges comparing this to a DI gun with a lightweight barrel, since the barrel is what failed by bending. You should redo the DI with a heavy barrel..
@andreharris9474
@andreharris9474 Жыл бұрын
Man I wish I had ur knowledge of weapons and military thanks for all cook off of my favorite AR15 all types.
@Jet2416-Reloading
@Jet2416-Reloading 7 жыл бұрын
First off I'd like to say that I enjoy watching all your videos, not just the meltdowns. I'm no expert by any means. I like shooting different guns for fun and have several for home defense. I'm really glad to see that the piston gun didn't overwhelm the performance of the DI. It has always been my opinion that for the added expense of the piston impingement system it is just not worth it for a semiautomatic rifle. As I see it, if the DI rifle you used for the meltdown video before would have had a comparable barrel to the piston gun in this video it may have easily outperformed the piston gun in number of rounds fired. With a heavy barrel I believe the DI rifle could have gone for a good bit longer before the gas tube finally failed.Thanks for the videos and all the information, guns, ammo, and accessories you show.