Ireland(s): A 2-Part Story about War and Peace | FULL DOCUMENTARY

Ireland(s): A 2-Part Story about War and Peace | FULL DOCUMENTARY | EPISODE 2

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@Snoopymk37 4 ай бұрын

My mother was born in Co. Derry and moved to Canada when she was sixteen years old. She thought that she escaped the anti-Catholic rhetoric. In Canada,we lived in a township that had been historically divided between Irish-Catholic and Protestant. We happened to love in the more Protestant side, and until about twenty years ago, there was an Orange Lodge not far from our house. My dad is Protestant, so I attended the public (for everyone) school. I switched to Catholic school when I was nine. Years later, mum told me that when I was at public school, a kid (whose family was in the Lodge) used to taunt me, calling me a "dirty Catholic". It is just crazy that that hate managed to stay alive since the first settlers came to our area in the 1840s. Thank God that we moved on.

@michellebaker6302 2 ай бұрын

Just curious, where in Canada is this? (Not asking specifically where you live, just general area.) My family tree shows that a lot of my ancestors came over from Ireland to the US via Canada for a generation and I'm just curious if the area you're living in now is the same as where the Irish tended to settle back in the 1800s.

@grahamwatts8836 4 ай бұрын

If the Saville Enquiry is correct the actions of the soldiers who shot over 25 innocent people did a complete disservice to the Irish/British people and the PIRA and Loyalists gained significant support and the conflict escalated. Plus they disgraced the reputation and professionalism of fellow soldiers, who showed restraint during very difficult peace keeping duties. Allegedly Brigadier Kitson sent a hit squad from the Paras to kill several “hooligans”, felt this would help teach them a lesson during the hostilities.

@paulflah4562 4 ай бұрын

Alleged by who, can you quote a source or provide a link please

@grahamwatts8836 4 ай бұрын

@@paulflah4562 It is discussed in the book “Kitsons Irish War” as far varying if it is true who knows? The book I suggest is very interesting, both paramilitary sides did terrible things, plus the paras and other units did justifiably shot people ie snipers, bombers, terrorists. May I add I felt if a petrol or nail bomb was being thrown at a police man or soldier I felt they had right to self defence. Now days they seem to just cop it, throwing acid, petrol bombs, nail bombs, bricks are all capable inflicting death or serious injury. The SAS apparently killed 26 terrorists which appeared to be justified. It was a very nasty, dirty, civil war , (plenty of spies) I feel for both sides. (I am Australian) We had several Irish friends who moved to Australia bc of the troubles.

@jackietreehorn5561 2 ай бұрын

This was only one example, and the catalyst for 30 years of conflict

@gerard1965able Ай бұрын

@@paulflah4562 read look at pictures Kenya,Borneo

@Stereo_mike 5 ай бұрын

The hate that the July 12th still spreads has no place on this island going forward. All those that still celebrate it are living fossils from days gone by. Let’s look to the future and let the past be just that, in the past

@PaulWhite-q5c 13 күн бұрын

Ireland is not an island it is a promontory , barely attached to this earth's plateau , underwater ocean currents are washing it off from underneath your irish feet lol

@Conorguill 6 ай бұрын

I'm in the South & consider the North as simply part of Ireland

@kieransavage100 6 ай бұрын

Dream on. !!!!!

@Kazby78 4 ай бұрын

Wby wouldn't you.

@uinsionnoriain8607 Ай бұрын

Very enlightening. A mystery is motivation of Loyalist paramilitaries, why ? The RUC and British Army covered their interest.

@dowdallerno1 Ай бұрын

A lot of loyalist paramilitaries were Army or Police. The Brits effectively ran loyalist paramilitaries throughout the conflict. Look up Brian Nelson.

@uinsionnoriain8607 Ай бұрын

@ “A lot of loyalist Para…”. I didn’t know that, Thankyou.

@davidmccabe4041 6 ай бұрын

What a fascinating resume of NI affairs over some 30 years. I lived in safety in Dublin during all of this period but occasional business trips to northern Ireland were always of concern to my wife. What a change has taken place and Paisley, Trimble, Adams and McGuinness deserve eternal credit. David McCabe Dublin now aged 85.

@jackietreehorn5561 6 ай бұрын

Id be concerned about my safety now travelling to Dublin now lol

@johnkennedy972 6 ай бұрын

Because war is hell the people of both communities needed peace facts🇮🇪

@bortstanson2034 2 ай бұрын

DUP and Sein Fein deal is an example to the Palestine -Israel conflict. A just Peace is infinitely more valuable than endless conflict.

@HoldYourBreat4 28 күн бұрын

I don’t think it’s fair or has accomplished what it’s set to. It’s not that they chose peace….. it’s that the decided a united Ireland isn’t worth the fight.. which I think is sad for the Irish

@kierantreanor5530 19 күн бұрын

This war is not a true comparison to Gaza because 3,500 in over 30 years were killed in the troubles and that is similar to the monthly death toll in Gaza

@davidsowens 6 ай бұрын

Fascinating documentary on the history of Ireland and its relationship with Great Britain. May peace prevail.

@mohammedsaysrashid3587 6 ай бұрын

It was a great ,incredible, truthful documentary about Ireland 🇮🇪 political issue, including the Northern Ireland region where protestant community preferences & practicing unification with Britain 🇬🇧 island backed by Britain....thank you 🙏 ( Slice full Doc ) channel for sharing

@SLICE_Full_Doc 6 ай бұрын

Thank you so much!! (honestly it is one of my favorite docs on the channel 😁)

@grahamfleming8139 5 ай бұрын

When 40% of the British army was from the island of Ireland in 1840 only 5 years later 1million people starved protestant and Catholic. Being part Ulster that annoys me Being used like this and iam Protestant!

@grahamwatts8836 4 ай бұрын

As a “Church of England British Citizen” being a teen in the 1970’s, Wow, I watched the troubles on TV in Australia. The past is the past (you cannot change it) more important is the future, use the lessons of the past to improve the future. I suggest Britain recede from Ireland in an appropriate and amicable way. Let Northern Ireland be part of a United Ireland, look to the UK as a friend. Importantly people should not dwell on the past troubles, work together to create a brighter future.

@frankieui5161 6 ай бұрын

When that guy is talking about the release of prisoners and claims the Republican prisoners were held in higher esteem by their community then loyalist prisoners I feel he's pretty wrong. Fighters from both sides became elected officials and were treated with high regards by their people.

@fernandogallardo3458 6 ай бұрын

The solution to peace and warfare, love one another The solution to greed and covetousness: love one another The solution to monetary and capitalism: love one another The solution to imperialism and slavery: love one another The solution to invasion and anarchy: love one another The solution to hate and pride: love one another The solution to crime and destruction: love one another The solution to divisions and contentions: love one another The solution to poverty and homelessness: love one another The solution to insurances and alarm systems: love one another The solution to selfishness and foolishness: love one another The solution to economies and inflation: love one another Loving one another and serving one another, is the solution to the root of all evil in the world If you love one another, be content with: FOOD WATER HOUSING CLOTHES ELECTRICITY HEALTH CARE If you love one another, you don't need: MONEY BANKS GOVERNMENTS MILITARIES POLICE WEAPONS WEALTH ECONOMIES INSURANCES ALARM SYSTEMS LAWS

@forgetit5335 Ай бұрын

That was real class asking a little kid...the false equivalence

@deborah9229 Ай бұрын

It gets old hearing these old men say “we want to defend” defend against what? You’re not under attack!

@Conorguill 6 ай бұрын

I worry a bit about how Gerry Adams used an Afrikaner analogy several times there. There is currently a flight of those of Afrikaner heritage away from South Africa. It would be a tragedy if the same was ultimately to happen to members of the PUL community

@kkalvall512 6 ай бұрын

That's what he wants and that's what Irish Nationalists want. They have ethnically cleansed us sporadically for over a century and we won't leave. We'll fight to the death and a United Ireland won't force us into 'real' Irish identity. Every pogrom Nationalists have launched at us has failed because we're still here. Get used to it

@kkalvall512 6 ай бұрын

Adams and SF/IRA have specifically said many times we will not be permitted to exist in a UI. That's the point, it's an ethnic cleansing campaign. We won't tolerate it.

@jackietreehorn5561 6 ай бұрын

@@kkalvall512who's us?

@jackietreehorn5561 6 ай бұрын

@@kkalvall512ethnically cleansed? What ethnicity are you? And what drivel are you on about?

@kkalvall512 6 ай бұрын

@@jackietreehorn5561 Ulster Protestant. There were pogroms in ROI during your revolution. Thousands of us were killed during the Troubles. The IRA described their own border country murder campaign as 'ethnic cleansing'. The PUL community is descended from many people driven out of ROI when it was founded. Your country is now murdering new immigrants and is in the grip of a far right backlash. You still have designs on us and want rid of us for a United Ireland. You may have made a mistake and bitten off more than you can chew trying to attack us and new immigrants at the same time.

@Conorguill 6 ай бұрын

I genuinely would like to understand why Orangemen think that their identity would be subsumed if there was a United Ireland. Why could it not be preserved?!

@kkalvall512 6 ай бұрын

Because Nationalists have murdered us again and again. ROI was created by ethnically cleansing us. The Troubles were an attempt to do this. Every Nationalist bomb and murder and every death threat we receive every day is an attempt to do this. Ethno-nationalism is a genocidal ideology

@kkalvall512 6 ай бұрын

@@jackietreehorn5561 Orange Halls are attacked around here all the time. Your movement is now burning immigrants to death in asylum centres. You have no intention of ever dropping your racial purity politics and those of us who aren't ethnically pure enough will be the ones that bury your ethno-nationalist state.

@jackietreehorn5561 6 ай бұрын

@@kkalvall512mate you need to get that out of your head.......your mind has been brainwashed.....let go mucker

@Tosse901 2 ай бұрын

because they are extremists, that`s why. Singing songs about killing catholics and saying "we are not against catholics"....delusional extremists.

@dowdallerno1 Ай бұрын

Because the orange order was set up to maintain Protestant Supremacy. Equality is anathema to them.

@Conorguill 6 ай бұрын

William Smith, the loyalist para you show, who 'wouldn't regret anything personally' seems primarily to have been involved in explicitly & entirely sectarian acts

@annied9864 Ай бұрын

21:52 he’s a fraud from day 1 to death with no thought for any mother

@kieransavage100 6 ай бұрын

1690 springs to mind.

@RememberLoughgall 4 ай бұрын

God Bless Martin and Gerry!!! Socialism is not the way to go. TAL

@jody1367 Ай бұрын

The men of Loughgall would turn in their graves, knowing what Gerry and Martin have done.

@CiaranGallagher1 6 ай бұрын

How would the Orange order identity vanish in a united Ireland when the lodges in Donegal and Monaghan are going just fine?

@jackietreehorn5561 6 ай бұрын

Both cultures have to be in it

@annied9864 Ай бұрын

39:00 rubbish there’s not an orange man I know likes catholics

@aidankelly840 Ай бұрын

2/side s Of the coin Brits go 🏠

@SeanHope 3 ай бұрын

In my opinion this should never have happened

@gregorymclaughlin6206 4 күн бұрын

"In the north, an overwhelming majority voted for peace (75%), and in the south the Yes victory received wide public acclaim (95%)"...First of all, people in the south also voted in the joint north-south referendum, with the electorate (the voting public!!) voting 95%!! That's a massive, near absolute democratic vote...much more so than in the north. The narrative in this programme is riddled with misinterpretations and poorly based claims.