Ireland's Mother and Baby Scandal (Part 2) | People and Power

[@retiredcajunlady8835]

The Catholic Church has nothing to do with faith or humanity or God. It is and has always been about money, wealth, and power. So very tragic.

[@jesseccles6089]

But it does incorporate Laws and rules that shun people or their teachings are embedded with Fear and spellbound wording that induce MK Ultra enchantments on those repeating their prayers, that is why the Catholic Cult stays so strong and committed. Yet, the Truth is Rising and those Reptillian people eating beasts will be revealed soon enough!

[@bernicecollins9641]

Broken Body of Jesus Christ His Church, saints and sinners spanning two thousand years

[@monicawambui5770]

and this is what scripture says about this church Revelation 17 (KJV) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ⁶ And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration. … ¹⁸ And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth. Revelation 18 (KJV) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ⁸ Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her. ⁹ And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning, ¹⁰ Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come. … ¹² The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble, ¹³ And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.

[@Mary-Kp9ie-p1w]

I learned more about Shapespeare than I did about great Irish poets and writers in a Catholic Secondary School in Dublin. I knew something didn't fit. I believe Ireland was creating an image. An open society is not easy but it is better than murder and to be degraded.

[@brendabaum6442]

Shame, shame, shame on the Catholic Church, the Irish government and every “religious” nun, priest or person who had any part of this. These abusers should never have called themselves Christians as Jesus NEVER treated people and children like this. It is my opinion that the Irish govt. doesn’t want this exposed and doesn’t want to have to pay reparations to the families still alive. Shame!

[@Nikkidunne79]

This has now been voted on by the Irish Government, to seal all documents relating to this , for the next 30 years. That's how much respect they have for their own people. Covering up their lies. And on the same day they decide to start a second lockdown in the country.

[@saintinlower48]

This is shocking. Abuse on top of horrific abuse.

[@corryjookit7818]

I recall the " the man from the cruelty " being used as a threat and a possible beating .in the offing.

[@kateemily]

Fgs why is it so hard for governments to own up to bad side of the countries history...so many governments do it.

[@bdexpress4972]

operating systems quite similar to Taliban/ISIS terrorists. Probably Taliban/ISIS startegy coming from the same roots.🤔

[@Dartacussecretsoflaw]

They sealed it for 30 years because the government will be long dead by then and wont be held accountable or have to answer any questions or do anything about it. And the survivors will also be dead and there'll be nobody left alive to pursue any kind of action. It's a strategy perfected by the cia after the murder of jfk. It's to protect the government for their involvement or lack of. It's not to protect the church. Its self preservation on the part of the government. Instead of telling the full truth. Shameful evil bas****s

[@AfricaCaribbeanCulture]

The Catholic CHURCH has got history of cruelty against humanity ..sick barbaric behaviour towards women

[@MostPowerfulPMofIndia]

Absolutely give it to you for that

[@martinhynes768]

And men

[@bdexpress4972]

operating systems quite similar to Taliban/ISIS terrorists. Probably Taliban/ISIS startegy coming from the same roots.🤔

[@florenceobrien2822]

Absolutely creul witches

[@LaEscultora]

why the men of Ireland have never been held to account for their part in this abuse?

[@bernicewade9796]

A lot of these young women were in those homes due to being impregnated by their father, brother, uncle or family friend. Families covered up incest by disowning their pregnant daughters while they protected the fathers of these children because it was easier to dump the girls into a mother & baby home.

[@apollo8352]

It sicken me to think the church discourages people from drawing attention to these mass murders, for fear of bringing shame to the church.....the real shame is they did not think about bringing shame to the church when they were all complicit in those murders.....Now the church want you all to be complicit in the cover up and keep quite! If nothing changes these babies all died for nothing and their lives have no meaning or value, so for the victims sake stop hiding from what has happened and call it out so it ends here and ends now.

[@carolinebedford9836]

Kirsteen Anderson. I completely agree with you.

[@carolinebedford9836]

Kirsteen Anderson. What's more, even to this day irish people, people of irish heritage seen an unmarried pregnant women as if though they have committed a terrible crime. Of course, the fathers Of the baby are not seen as what they are.

[@apollo8352]

@@carolinebedford9836 I agree, both Nuns and Priests were complisid in these hundreds or thousands of murders.....it is ironic now they worry now about bring shame to the church, shame they did not think about that when they were murdering babies. It is the same with the paedophile crimes, don't bring shame on the church by bringing that up.....when in fact if nothing changes the same crimes will repeat themselves.... Psalm 137:9 Happy is the one that seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.... You see murdering babies is condoned in the bible, so unless you bring about real change all you have done is swept it under the rug so it can continue.

[@mikemiller3074]

Why is this not all over national news

[@bdexpress4972]

Exactly.

[@jenkitching43]

Because mainstream media has a history of lying and covering up crimes. Also government propagandists.

[@jessicaconner1242]

Because everyone else has problems

[@tynanantale6707]

It's just been aired on rte one (Irish tv)few hours ago and I had to Google for more that's why I am here..very disturbing news. May the innocent souls rest in peace 🙏

[@sonialilly5688]

SHAME ON THE CHURCH!!! Rest in peace to those little angels who have suffered in the hands of the church.

[@bogavai]

If you read or watched the movie called Philomena you will see that the nun mentioned at the end (Sister Hildegart) it's the one who continuously lied to Philomena's son about her mother and prevent a reunion while the man was alive.Truly disgusting.

[@31Alden]

But the oh so pious Sister Hildegard McNulty had no issues whatsoever taking a fairly large sum of money from Michael/Anthony that allowed Michael Hess’s ashes to be interred at Sean Ross Abbey. And how about THIS? Are his ashes actually THERE? Is the Catholic Church STILL lying to Philomena? Good chance they are. This makes me physically ill … ALL of it. The poor mothers and innocent babies. While the fathers walk free. Most unjust and unconscionable.

[@kevins1095]

the world will be a better place WITHOUT religion !

[@Keelyboi1]

I'm ashamed to be Irish after seeing this. These families and survivors deserve truth and justice. Utterly shameful for the Irish Government which voted to seal these files fot 30 years. The Catholic Church and Irish State are still working together to cover up their cruel crimes.

[@crypticlish6717]

Always remember Ireland was NEVER meant to be "Catholic" Ireland, Christianity was brought to the island. It only became "Catholic" Ireland to feel different from "Protestant" Britain (which is weird since Britain has a history of flip flopping between being a Catholic or Protestant state). De Valera who happily sold out Collins of course would sell the Irish people to the Church. Paganism was the state before invasion of oppressive regimes, Irish pagan tradition was so strong that it shaped the church ("halloween" being in October, the same that happened with Scandinavian paganism influencing Church holidays too, they couldn't take the traditions). Ireland (at least in the south) has been moving steadily away from the church and becoming truly more independent, don't stop feeling Irish pride, we can criticise the history and events and still feel pride in our land, in other parts of our history and fight to make up for the black stains in history. Stay safe, have a lovely week.

[@eunicestone838]

The shame is on the Church and Government. Not the people of Ireland.

[@hibernianwolf1711]

An English man on a muslim channel Giving the Irish a history lesson No apology for the one and a half million People that died During the famine Or the two million that fled. And millions more that died under A Brutal occupation that lasted 800 Years.the mass murderer Oliver Cromwell the plantations of the North

[@hibernianwolf1711]

If you are giving someone a history lesson . It is better now to have Persecuted them in the past.

[@martinkavanagh681]

ABSOLUTELY 💯 % MY SENTIMENTS ... NAMASTE 🙏

[@richenh.6009]

The Church was too dominant in the Irish community.

[@gip1152]

Jesus this is more horrific and sickening than I can put into words. I'm so sorry for all of your losses and I'm so sorry for your authorities trying to cover it up. I can't even imagine the amount of trauma all these poor, innocent women and children went through. People are absolutely sickening.

[@geoffwhite7535]

EVIL pigs, how trust the bastards

[@Jewgirl369]

WELL STATED!!!

[@teresaritchie2177]

Yes truly shows ‘man’s inhumanity to man’ … how can any of this be the will of God??

[@moniquew327]

​@@teresaritchie2177it is not, teachings of Catholic church are based on idolatry and ignoring the bible.

[@chnalvr]

The Catholic Church is staunchly "Pro Life", eh? Really.

[@kenturner5005]

those sweet babies are with Jesus now and those nuns and higher up will have to answer to God, they will be judged.

[@SandraPrice-c5g]

This tells the world a great deal about Ireland and its past. Way behind the times, guilt ridden often due to the mainly Catholic Church’s stranglehold on the population. Literal crimes being committed by religious people : no accountability for their actions at all. No one dared accuse Nuns & Priests of their cruel or sexual misbehaviour. Women damaged for life having their children sold on and powerless to do anything about it. Little children suffered badly too, many of them. Looked upon as scum and treated accordingly. Ireland stand up & let the truth be known and make restitutions where you can. Stop the secrecy.

[@bdexpress4972]

25 nuns and priests disliked this.

[@debbiewagner1996]

The atrocities committed by religions have long since failed to shock me. How sad is that!

[@CarmenFalkenburg]

Totally disturbed beyond comprehension, evil crimes again young innocents have gone back to Venetian times. People need to wake up

[@Dartacussecretsoflaw]

All these cloth covered demons will pay for their actions after their last breath when they face their maker. Evil incarnate.

[@audreyweber1336]

Im of irish descent im proud to be irish but im not catholic i can't believe this monstrosity has happened!! Terrible someone should be held accountable!!!!!

[@amlaaaa479]

Ireland is a horribly corrupt country. People are really harsh and closed off, but given how they have been treated in the not-so-distant past it's no wonder. The government is conservative, so don't expect support progress.

[@halleylow3615]

strange how rome opposes abortion but the covering up of the murders committed by the sister of good help (thats what bon secours means) is ok. how do people continue to participate in this most unholy church?

[@eunicestone6532]

How can people just give up their flesh and blood? Mainly families making their daughters go and "get rid of" their own grandchildren. When I see the same families later just going wild over their grandchildren---ones born on the right side of the blanket. So cold and so cruel. I have 6 such grandchildren. 2 of them(from my drug addicted son) are adopted out. 1 we never found out about til he was almost 18, a son and a daughter raised by her mother out of state. His set of twins were taken almost immediately. He just keeps on drugging it up. Sad. Luckily my oldest has my 23 year old grandson and took great care of him. I'm so grateful she is such a good mother.

[@judysworldofanimals6111]

Ironic that the Blessed Mother was in a similar situation and disgraceful that the nuns were so cruel. I was brought up by nuns in Sri Lanka and I have been a victim of some of the most very cruel wicked nuns.

[@jesseccles6089]

I was taught within the Catholic Chuch in America and I hated it. As soon as I became an adult, no more Catholic anything for me, I saw right through their fearbased teachings, and those MEAN AND NASTY NUNS WERE NEVER KIND!!

[@florenceobrien2822]

@@judysworldofanimals6111 I was same

[@kimbrown6307]

Where were all the fathers ? Living their carefree lives .Makes me so angry it was all on the mother .

[@davinathorne5215]

Many of these babies were fathered by the mother’s relatives- fathers, brothers, uncles, family male friends, including parish priests.

[@carolinebedford9836]

Kim.Brown. completely agree with you.

[@carolinebedford9836]

@@davinathorne5215 I think you are missing the point.

[@davinathorne5215]

@@carolinebedford9836 How so?

[@Bjj827]

How do nuns become so sadistic? You always hear stories about nuns and their sick actions

[@marymcsherry1965]

I was taught by nuns. Some orders were brilliant and others the complete opposite

[@deborahm6059]

It was an honour in Ireland to have a priest or num in the family, deemed very respectable, in early years many nuns ir priests were told young they were joining an order and that was it! Hence the bitter, jealous wicked cruel, frustrated actions of many!

[@lindawoods8326]

i believe they were sexually frustrated!!!!☘

[@carpenoctem1182]

@@deborahm6059 exactly! My granddad's siblings were all priests and nuns. Also there was alot of poverty so to escape people would join the order to live a better life.

[@virginia3222]

A lot of nuns used to come from terribly poor backgrounds. Maybe the Bon Secours sisters (who ran Tuam) came from families so impoverished that not feeding babies enough was common.

[@bethanykennedy812]

It's entirely possible that some of these "dead" babies aren't dead. They could have been stolen and adopted and they just told the mothers they were dead.

[@ofrabjousday1]

If this is God's plan, I'll stick to my own plan. If I'm ever called before God to answer to why I am an atheist, I will begin by answering because he didn't intervene in this horrible, unacceptable situation, and we'll continue from there.

[@joyceproudlock1426]

I don't believe in the religious twoddle anyway

[@audreyweber1336]

Why were the women and children punished and not the men...it takes two people to make a baby !!! Shameful!!!!!

[@ellencooper2199]

how could you not find this distressing?

[@mefford67]

*This is just so monstrous…* *Why isn’t law enforcement involved? These were murders, period.* 😖

[@Irishmammy281]

Pathologyst said can't bring them up as babies bodies were fused together too much and could not be separated,,,, government won't pay for it,, shocking 🇮🇪

[@sheenavaughan2717]

😫

[@moiraruff3292]

Appalling levels of care, corrupted ideology and damaging cultural mores may well have led to higher levels of mortality in such homes than necessary. But rural poverty and poor health would have been contributory factors too. Not excusing the practices of poorly qualified nuns or of the State that gave them the care of their unfortunate charges, but murder per se is not proven. Bad practice is.

[@dianebonner8827]

This get worse and worse has any body been held to account yet

[@alysononoahu8702]

Can't remember?? DIG IT ALL UP THEN!!+!!!!

[@gerrywalsh7677]

And they were not aloud to be buried in consecrated ground. Shocking.

[@mundodesconhecido3373]

Consecrated my foot! Demons cannot make anything sacred. These are satanists whether they realise it or not.

[@susanegan2978]

Shame on them all

[@star7communicator]

Catholicism is a cult. These people deserve answers.

[@Fuzzamajumula]

Who paid for this "investigation/inquiry"? It seems to me that the people of Ireland paid for it. Therefore, all resulting products of it should belong to the people of Ireland. Who would be willing to pay for a product yet not receive the product for 30+ years? The answer, I believe, is NO ONE!

[@theresaguilfoyle5795]

My hesrt goes out to these mothers

[@gabriellecooper2544]

some of us survived the nuns with our baby.....i am lucky to be one of those, but i saw what went on in there , it was not human x

[@carlakoala7415]

@@gabriellecooper2544 would love to hear your story x

[@gabriellecooper2544]

@@carlakoala7415 its was pretty much just how its been portrait , we got more social assistance if we told the nuns we were giving up our babies so most of us lied and went along with that , The nursery where the babies were kept whether they were being adopted out or being taken home after 6 week , required a lot of us to help out feeding and changing the babies , there was a wooden play pen in the corner with at least 4 babies in it, there was something wrong with all of them , we were told not to go near them or feed them , they were very quite and unnatural for babies, Some babies wee just gone over night; no mention of where or how x I left before my baby was born , my parents sent me to family in uk , i was still supposed to give up my baby , but i did not , i was not allowed to come home with her x so i made a life in the uk met my husband , had two more children and they are all making their way in the world just fine. My " baby " became a writer and to date has written 15 books. i never regret her or how i had to fight to keep her xxx

[@ellencooper2199]

if you want to be cured of religion be sent to Catholic school (elementary thru high school) as

[@jlnriddick]

My husband has been through 12 years of Catholic school, and has always said the very same statement! He's 67, and it's difficult to get him into a church even to attend relative's funerals. His Mom is as Catholic as they come, and will not discuss things like the Tuan Mother and Baby Home or the sexual abuse scandals. It's sad what people pin their "salvation" on.

[@theorycompanies]

My grandfather was in remote catholic school until age of 18, which is when he was able to get out of church altogether. He was meant to become a priest but ended up atheist for the rest of his life. He never wanted to talk about what he saw there, he just said that the nuns and priests acted in totally different way than what they preached.

[@dianechallinor2207]

My 4 great-grandfather came from Ireland and there is a family member James frayne born 1946 in Tuam passed aged 1month and is named xxx

[@gillianstapleton8566]

😢😢😢💔 horrific the check to look down on anyone while carrying on this shameful activities them selves the hypocrisy is alarming,

[@devond2083]

Is there a part 3?.......thank you

[@Jewgirl369]

And THIS is better than ABORTION? I DON'T THINK SO!!!

[@patveldhoven4919]

These nuns practiced a terrible evil.

[@catherine87]

What do our country's invited peoples of other nationality's nations think of this unfolding century truths of Ireland's Irish people and or it's companies in the power arena?

[@brianmcfarlane9976]

These places should be treated as crime scenes

[@marthaMGEA]

The horrible Catholic Church caused this it’s so sad

[@rosievasquez4378]

The Catholic Church have to answer for all those deaths of those children and those babies and for all those women were treated all those demons nuns and those demons Bishops

[@lorraineharper4470]

ALL these evil nuns and all the rest of them will have to stand before God in the day of judgment

[@sherrypaproski9564]

I am so sad when I hear these stories of these girls that are treated so badly and some how the men or boys who were apart of making that baby isn’t punished what so ever and the nuns and priests have to held accountable for the crimes they committed Against these women and babies getting pregnant isn’t a sin starving these children is the sin and I hope that the surviving children of these women do not give up looking for the.

[@gregorybezanson]

Catholicism Church had a clean home but the work had been on the backs of the unpaid mothers. Children sold... Holy Sisters...

[@kinggbull]

Too bad they took yall off tv, millions of people could see this

[@kenallen768]

The nuns should be prosecuted and defrocked.

[@MostPowerfulPMofIndia]

Feel so bad for this evil system. Why ?? The face of practical religion is evil. I want to be a mother here in India after a broken marriage.

[@rogerdavies8586]

N o one in India has any illusions about the R c Church in Ireland. Marianne

[@alysononoahu8702]

DIG IT ALL UP. !!!!!!!

[@31Alden]

Utterly appalling and criminal. The Church and State need to come clean and be held accountable. The Catholic Church: The paragon of sanctity and virtue. 😡

[@1crackedup]

Being of Irish-American heritage and I am sickened by this activity

[@Ardoyne-jx4tv]

At 15:48ish they say it may be to the wall...As someone from Ireland following this I truly believe the "grave" goes tot eh wall by those disgusting excuses they called nuns.

[@perfectbreakfast]

I really hope there is a third installment in this series

[@cryst2hu]

Something tells me there's more victims then what they're saying, so glad my ancestors left.

[@MsRazorbladeromance1]

I hope they have cameras all over that place

[@joyceproudlock1426]

The catholic church has a lot to answer to.

[@eamonnmurphy5385]

Irish government investigation summary: "Ireland was a cold harsh environment for many, probably the majority, of its residents during the earlier half of the period under remit. It was especially cold and harsh for women. All women suffered serious discrimination. Women who gave birth outside marriage were subject to particularly harsh treatment. Responsibility for that harsh treatment rests mainly with the fathers of their children and their own immediate families. It was supported by, contributed to, and condoned by, the institutions of the State and the Churches. However, it must be acknowledged that the institutions under investigation provided a refuge - a harsh refuge in some cases - when the families provided no refuge at all".

[@laurielovett8849]

They only provided a refuge because they were paid by the state,also they had an end product, love me the illegal puppyfarmers of today,the mothers were made to sign over their children, then the nuns had them adopted mostly by rich Americans. Who were expected to donate about£ 10.000 to the nuns us an annual contribution. an even better income than from puppy farming. The orders that ran those institutions should be the ones responsible for paying the costs of Dna tests on the remains. Some children may still be identifiable.and could be returned to their mothers or familes,the others buried together in aoroper graveyard with their names and,ages on a plaque over the grave

[@eamonnmurphy5385]

@@laurielovett8849I understand but try to see the log in your own eye and not the chip in other's!

[@kimbrown6307]

What happened to fallen men ?...Nothing.

[@eifu333]

Shame again and again on the Catholic church!

[@michaelofarrell9637]

Appalling hypocrisy church and state. Totally corrupt

[@cazzzzzy]

How can I watch all the videos? It won't let me go back to when these videos were uploaded

[@freespiritspirito1118]

Disgusting.

[@alysononoahu8702]

Religion, little and big fears planted into human beings minds by sadistic lazy con-men. Stop it..do not surrender to the propaganda of fears!! Signed, an ex-still-damaged catholic

[@victoriaarnold1548]

and these people say that Stalin was a monster!

[@tammybeatty2075]

How can I find out if I'm one of the kids taken to America to be adopted

[@alisonj9533]

Even if those smiling (only for their hierarchy) thought they'd done no wrong throwing babies away into a sewerage tank exposes their BS!! Poor little babe's, dear God those poor mothers and babe's what a nightmare!

[@SonyKot]

Proof of human(animal) nature in one of its worst forms in the self-proclaimed(& verified) holiest beings.

[@catherine87]

What has the int Court of human rights got to say about crimes against humanity in the deliberate deflecting of accountability proped up by recorded lies?

[@breannmariegrissom6661]

Makes me wonder if this was done by another religion, would all the abusers be charged

[@RobertButts-i4d]

That's true about how the ground or graves never settle i worked in a cemetery for 30 years and lots of ruts in graves that had to be topped up constantly.. no matter how old

[@NightDocs]

Why was the man digging? Was he hired by someone? Who? What was he hired to do?

[@deniseouillette6995]

just horrific!!!

[@fifimac2007]

Why???????

[@apollo8352]

It sicken me to think the church discourages people from drawing attention to these mass murders, for fear of bringing shame to the church.....the real shame is they did not think about bringing shame to the church when they were all complicit in those murders.....Now the church want you all to be complicit in the cover up and keep quite! If nothing changes these babies all died for nothing and their lives have no meaning or value, so for the victims sake stop hiding from what has happened and call it out so it ends here and ends now.

[@tracyjoyce9078]

Disgusting!!

[@joearkle1327]

Murder in my book

[@elizabethabraybant7282]

Have to wonder what happened to the babies that were born with birth defects. Were they done away with simply because they were unadoptable!

[@som2479]

What happened to my post. Did I say something wrong?

[@sbpierce9987]

Many comments here blame ‘the Catholic Church’, but who really relished in perpetrating these horrors - the Nuns and the Priests, that’s who.

[@sharonbradley9492]

All that struggle to get rid of the British rule and De Valera and the Irish state and the Catholic church were just as f........ bad. A lot of Irish mothers went to Britain and the children not only lost their family but their culture and nationality. If you were born in Britain to an Irish mother and adopted British you can get an Irish passport we are the lost children of Ireland, NO NOT LOST TRAFFICKED! I didn't know I was Irish til I was 56. All the establishment s were in on this not just the catholic church.

[@anotherjunkie2]

Murder

[@gregorybezanson]

Be sure your sins will find you out. fr. the Holy Bible.

[@barneymclarnon4760]

What I'm going to enclose is on a large housing construction on a project in cork behind. A baby home we came. Across a grave of At least 9baby skeleton s behind the home as on the side of this home on the left side there was a normal wee grave site but why was these wee corpses where beside a well I did send this to RTE to the girl Byrne

[@Teresa.S-x1c]

Great movie , The Magdalene Sisters is about this. An insight into what happened

[@Claire-xn1cw]

This report was finally released in 2021. Far, far too late.

[@missflowers1701]

religion has proven to be so evil yet people still believe

[@JoshWilson-w6r]

Live as a jew in Germany is basically nothing to whatvyhe british did to the irish people

[@CountSadistOIII]

F***in cruel

[@mr.pradorobledo]

What is thre to say, mas gue part two. On seconds..

[@mr.pradorobledo]

I will Grizzly..

[@eddyflanagan8867]

What about those christen brothers and sisters nuns????😢😢😢😢

[@JacquelineMcClenaghan]

😅It is disgusting that no Nuns, state, church are answerable for this

[@jfrakers]

Catherine is a very impressive young woman., Thank God she got away.

[@alysononoahu8702]

Sacred hearts of jesus and Mary Despicable stop the madness

[@abubakarhanif7063]

so which is true catholic or protestant?

[@abubakarhanif7063]

@Alle Warten Auf Das Licht they follow book of number chapter 31 verse 17,18.

[@Fuzzamajumula]

Neither. All institutional religions are subject to human nature. Therefore, they are all corrupt.

[@abubakarhanif7063]

@@Fuzzamajumula and still we dont know what really happen back than..

[@leigh-annewestwater8403]

Follow Jesus and not religion.

[@sallieceelee5660]

Why were these nuns so determined to destroy the image of the Catholic Church?